Talk:Crimean Karaites

Latest comment: 4 years ago by 2605:6000:F510:8F00:1C6E:A1D0:55C8:1EEE in topic Shapshal's Theories
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Shapshal's Theories

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The article states, with no attribution, "Shapshal's doctrine is still a topic of critical research and public debate." This is pretty much not true. Most academic studies of Karaite Jews regard his theories as bunkum, being unsupported by either documents or genetic evidence. Does anyone have a source of his theories being treated as legitimate in any academic sphere?2605:6000:F510:8F00:1C6E:A1D0:55C8:1EEE (talk) 05:04, 29 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Genetics

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There is a paragraph in the text that reads as follows:

Leon Kull and Kevin Alan Brook led the first scientific study of Crimean Karaites using genetic testing of both Y chromosomal DNA and mitochondrial DNA and the results showed that Crimean Karaites are indeed partially of Middle Eastern origin and closely related to other Jewish communities (Ashkenazi, Sephardi and Mizrahi Jews), while finding that the Crimean Karaites are genetically unrelated to non-Jewish Turkic-speaking peoples of the region.[1][2]
  1. ^ Kevin Alan Brook, Leon Kull, and Adam J. Levin, "The Genetic Signatures of East European Karaites," August 28, 2013, [1]
  2. ^ Kevin Alan Brook, "The Genetics of Crimean Karaites," Karadeniz Araştırmaları №42 (Summer 2014): pp. 69–84, pdf

An editor tried to add the following:

{{clarify|reason=the Y-DNA and mtDNA haplogroups should be mentioned + mixing with other Jewish groups due to their religion might explain the genetic similarities with other Jewish groups - this possibility is totally ignored.|date=March 2020}}

This comment is raising an alternative hypothesis not asking for clarification, so it has been moved here. Unless there is a reliable source for this comment, it cannot be put into the text of the article. Toddy1 (talk) 09:51, 28 March 2020 (UTC)Reply