Talk:BOAC Flight 911

James Bond Reference

Some people may be wondering why I placed this article in the 'James Bond' category, so I will explain.

At the time of the flight, Cubby Broccoli, Harry Saltzman, Ken Adam, Lewis Gilbert and Freddie Young intended to leave Japan on Flight 911 after their scouting trip for You Only Live Twice (film), but canceled their tickets at the last moment to see a ninjutsu demonstration.

This is important because had they gotten on that plane, we would have lost some of the people who brought us this franchise for over 40 years.

Anyway, I placed two citations for this in the article for anyone who is interested. Also, there are references to this crash in the 'You Only Live Twice' movie article here at Wikipedia.

And003 (talk) 04:06, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

If true, that flight otherwise would have killed the two founding partners of Danjaq and Eon Productions, as well as the production designer, the film director, and the director of photography of You Only Live Twice.

I say "if true," because page 211 of Cubby Broccoli's posthumously published autobiography quotes him as having said that he and Ken Adam had been scheduled to leave Tokyo on Flight 911, but that Broccoli canceled that reservation for the two of them when he learned that only on the day of that flight could he see "an Army film . . . of the Ninja Fighters" that "I must see, and you must see."

~~ Wortschätzer (talk) 00:40, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I knew about Mr. Broccoli and Mr. Adam, but did he say anything about his other three associates?

~~ And003 (talk) 23:27, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Missing the flight did not only apply to the passengers. At least one BOAC employee, a Chief Steward, was also scheduled to be on the flight but changed at the last minute. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Buller1968 (talk • contribs) 13:17, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Today's planes

Would one of today's airliners survive turbulence of -4/+9g ?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.24.197.202 (talk) 12:34, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Almost certainly not. +9G is what the WW II Supermarine Spitfire fighter was stressed to, and that was far higher than for a bomber or transport-type aeroplane. I suspect that the 707 was stressed to about +4 or-so, so it's not surprising if the wings or tail failed under a load of around +9G. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.40.248.168 (talk) 22:10, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Film shot by passenger

Did they released that film to the public? I hate myself for that temptation, but still would want to see it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KyllanT (talk • contribs) 23:01, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Speedbird 911

It seems worth mentioning that "Speedbird 911" is how air traffic controllers would have referred to the flight. British Overseas Airways Corporation flights were termed "speedbird" (and British Airways flights still are) in radio calls to and from ground, departure, enroute, and arrival controllers, presumably because in 1952 they were the first to use De Havilland DH 106 Comet 1 jet airplanes... with initially disastrous results. Dick Kimball (talk) 14:08, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

The "Speedbird" call sign is actually from here: Speedbird - it's the name of the Imperial Airways, later BOAC, and now BA emblem. IIRC, the airline's head office was named "Speedbird House". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.7.147.13 (talk) 18:55, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Organization

Shouldn't there be an actual section of the article dedicated to the crash itself? It seems a glaring omission from an article about a crash. --Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 16:01, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Unsourced Material

Below information has been tagged for needing citations since March. Please feel free to re-add this information with appropriate references. DonIago (talk) 19:29, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Accident investigation results

While flying into the wind, approaching Mount Fuji from the downwind side, the aircraft encountered severe clear-air turbulence associated with lee waves, causing a sudden structural failure that initiated the in-flight breakup sequence. At the time of the accident, winds at the summit of Mount Fuji were measured at 60 to 70 knots from the northwest. Lenticular clouds associated with lee waves were observed on weather satellite photos taken 30 minutes before the accident some 240 km (150 mi) to the south, but were not visible in the vicinity of the accident where the skies were clear. A U.S. Navy A-4 Skyhawk that was sent up shortly after the accident to search for the wreckage encountered extreme turbulence in the accident area. The cockpit accelerometer display registered peak acceleration values of +9 and -4 g-units, causing temporary loss of control, and leading the Navy pilot to believe his aircraft would also break-up in the turbulence. The pilot regained control and landed safely, but the aircraft was grounded for post-flight inspection by maintenance personnel. Many other aircraft that passed near Mount Fuji that day also reported moderate to severe turbulence. The accident was photographed by Japan Self-Defense Forces personnel at the nearby East Fuji Maneuver Area, and an 8 mm film shot by one of the passengers during the flight survived the crash. Witnesses on the ground reported seeing the aircraft in a flat spin trailing white "smoke" prior to breaking up in flight. The white cloud was later determined to be atomized jet fuel escaping from the fuel tanks due to the breakup. The film shot on board was developed by investigators, and showed evidence that the aircraft experienced severe turbulence just prior to the accident. No evidence was recovered from the flight data recorder, which was destroyed by fire with the rest of the nose section which fell separately. The aircraft did not have a cockpit voice recorder, and no distress call was received from the flight.

Official Report

Surely there would have been official reports by the planes, operator, manufacturer and of course the Japanese Air safety authorities. Are they online? Graham1973 (talk) 03:44, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Missing information

In the 'Flight and accident' section, there's seem to be no information about how the plane broke up and crashed. Can someone include this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MattChatt18 (talk • contribs) 17:43, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

It appears in the first part of the Investigation section which is probably why it is missed, feel free to move the relevant information into the accident section. MilborneOne (talk) 18:45, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Done — Preceding unsigned comment added by MattChatt18 (talk • contribs) 13:13, 3 June 2016 (UTC)