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:I'm also sorry for not notifying the user, the first person I have ever reported here, as I will not be able to speak to someone who uses that kind of words. --[[User:E4024|E4024]] ([[User talk:E4024|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:50, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
:I'm also sorry for not notifying the user, the first person I have ever reported here, as I will not be able to speak to someone who uses that kind of words. --[[User:E4024|E4024]] ([[User talk:E4024|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:50, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
::I notified the user {{u|Sebirkhan}} for you, since you were upset. [[User:Ellin Beltz|Ellin Beltz]] ([[User talk:Ellin Beltz|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:29, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
::I notified the user {{u|Sebirkhan}} for you, since you were upset. [[User:Ellin Beltz|Ellin Beltz]] ([[User talk:Ellin Beltz|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:29, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
:::I'm upset now. --[[User:E4024|E4024]] ([[User talk:E4024|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:34, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

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Look at [1]. Howard61313 was clearly tracking my edits. I have tried to communicate with him on his talk page, but he still keep tracking my edits(See: [2], [3]). He obviously does not intend to stop. I did not want it to become an "edit war".--Kai3952 (talk) 12:28, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You made an outrageous misunderstanding. I didn't track anyone's edits, What I really track are the categories about Taiwan, and what I really care are the improvement and the adding of translations of the categories, it's not a matter of who the former editors are (that is, whether those are your edits or not, I'll do the same thing). Stop removing my translations to the page, which is a nonsense reversion because you are the one who tracks all my edits, no matter what I've added. (see: 1, I've added the translation in Japanese and Korean, but the user reverted it just because it's my edit).--Howard61313 (talk) 23 April 2018 (Mon) 12:13 (UTC)
Look at [4], [5], and [6]. The problem is, when I created a new category, why do you know in a "short time"?--Kai3952 (talk) 12:57, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I simply edit them following their container categories. I didn't check the time of creation at all, and I don't know whether you (or anyone else) created them or not.--Howard61313 (talk) 23 April 2018 (Mon) 13:01 (UTC)
Look at [7], [8]. I created "Views from Mount Elephant (Taipei)" category at 15:57, and you edited it at 16:27. Can you explain why you knew that I created "Views from Mount Elephant (Taipei)" category half an hour ago?--Kai3952 (talk) 19:27, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Who knew it? Why on earth should I know it? Why on earth should this be a concern of mine? Like I said before. I didn't check the time of creation at all. It's not my concern when they were created. It's not my concern who created them, either. Half an hour ago, two months ago or ten years ago, they all mean nothing to me. The main problem you've caused should to be blamed. Now it has been proved that your reversions based on the reason of "stop tracking" are unreasonable and nonsense, since the reason turns out to be your own misconception, nobody wants to track you. Even if anyone does, it's said below that "tracking another user's edits for the purpose of improving Commons" are not prohibited. Besides, "stop tracking" is an untenable reason itself to revert anybody's edition. You didn't even check with me whether or not my editions is a matter of tracking "before" selfishly making such reversions and unilaterally judging my editions as something to be reverted with the ridiculous reason. It's funny that you have the nerve to blame me first for "not discussing before".--Howard61313 (talk) 25 April 2018 (Wed) 03:36 (UTC)

In general, it's fine to track another user's edits for the purpose of improving Commons. If someone has made errors or incomplete information across several pages, their Special:Contributions is a good place to find work. Harassment is a different story, of course, and it won't be tolerated. Kai3952, do you disagree with the content of Howard61313's edits? Guanaco (talk) 20:27, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Guanaco: Look at his edits. You can see from the nature of his changes to my edits, and he are mainly directed at "my translation". The problem is, most peoples would not expect to be tracked by other users. I think he should inform me on my talk page, and to discuss my problem with translation in Chinese. This is why I feel he was tracking my edits.--Kai3952 (talk) 21:18, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Kai3952: Let's step back from the issue of tracking for a moment. Would you consider his edits to be good, neutral, or damaging? Guanaco (talk) 21:42, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
All I know is that there is a way to translate with more conciseness, which I replace the former, wordy and unsmooth translation with. It's not really my concern who the former translators were, let alone directing at them. Even if the translation is done by anyone else, I'll do the same edit to it. I've had enough with Kai3952's "directed at me" complaining and all his other unilateral accuses on me. Yes, he may mean no harm on me, and he may do all this unintentionally, but no matter what his intentions are, he do misunderstand me, causing me trouble.--Howard61313 (talk) 25 April 2018 (Wed) 03:08 (UTC)
You didn't discuss with me before as well!! My only problem is that your translation is "not very fluent" in my opinion. I think, concise translation may cause misunderstanding. If your comprehension of English is not to the level of a "native speaker"(like those English speakers in English-speaking countries), then I will worry about a problem: Most users of Chinese speakers misunderstand that causes their improper use of categories. This is not what I want to see happen. Therefore, I will choose to change or remove your edits. In other words, I hope you STOP now.--Kai3952 (talk) 14:44, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, I'm already discussing "your English" at COM:HD. See: [9].--Kai3952 (talk) 14:52, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No matter what the result is, it is about the relations of buses and automobiles. My correction to the former wordy and unsmooth Chinese translation is another different thing. Don't lump them together. It is me who hopes you to STOP now.--Howard61313 (talk) 28 April 2018 (Sat) 12:35 (UTC)
I know — but this shows that your command of English is "inadequate." Because they told me that the term automobile absolutely do "not" include buses. Moreover, they stressed that it is not normal. If you think there is a problem with my understanding of Chinese, how do you prove that my translation is wordy and unsmooth? I hope you "clearly" point it out, rather than blamed and complained.--Kai3952 (talk) 17:57, 28 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It's obvious. Taking Category:Transport by country for example, it is translated as "Category:各國交通" on zh.wikipedia. What the former editions on some categories here are weirdly translating it as "按國家分類的交通", which is "relatively" more wordy and unsmooth. When the translation can be done in concise ways, there is no need to ridiculously replace them with wordy and unsmooth ones. Another example showing that your ability to translate English words is "inadequate" as well, when you changed "緊急機構", the translation for "emergency service", into "緊急服務". The definition for emergency service is referred to as "the public organizations that respond to and deal with emergencies when they occur" on the dictionary. Of course the word "機構" is more proper than "服務" here. Other examples also show that "service" shouldn't be translated as "服務" in some cases, such as the National Intelligence Service, which should be translated as "國家情報院" instead of "國家情報服務". By the way, if the categorization for buses and automobiles doesn't work, I'll simply stop it. I urge you to do the same on the problem you caused.--Howard61313 (talk) 30 April 2018 (Mon) 05:28 (UTC)
Now I finally understand it! What you want to say is that my translation is not "precise" enough. If, as you said, my ability to translate English words is inadequate, then why do you say: "wordy and unsmooth"? Now, I only see you blaming me, because you didn't tell me that any solution to solve the problem. I think, what do you mean should be: Look at the Chinese Wikipedia category, they are translated like that. So you want me to do it the way they would?--Kai3952 (talk) 23:33, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
By asking the first question, you've proved that you don't understanding actually. It's two problems you've made, yet again you confused one of them with the other. --Howard61313 (talk) 2 May 2018 (Wed) 14:24 (UTC)
@Howard61313: Well...which question are you talking about? I stopped removing your edits a few days ago, but I don't know what you want to discuss. Also, you haven't told me what you want me to do. What do you want me to help you with?--Kai3952 (talk) 12:03, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I want to ask another question: I noticed your edits, why do you think that the term "train station" means "車站" in Chinese? I think, the term "bus station" means "公車站" in Chinese, but the real problem is that some people also call it "車站." I hope you do "not" firmly believe that this is just my problem.--Kai3952 (talk) 23:49, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The edition history you give here just shows my reason inside. In Taiwan, MRT stations (sometimes THSR stations as well) are not usually included in the term "火車站". If we both want to avoid the problem about bus, maybe the term "軌道運輸車站" used on the list "臺灣軌道運輸車站列表" of zh.wikipedia can be considered. --Howard61313 (talk) 2 May 2018 (Wed) 14:26 (UTC)
@Howard61313: I know, but you didn't say the "key point." Because you didn't answer my question. Please see clearly, my question is: Neither "車站" nor "火車站" are the best translation vocabularies. What do you think, how should the term "train station" translate in Chinese?--Kai3952 (talk) 12:03, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

MazzyBor

Hello, an administrator told me to ask this in the village pump.

I just wanted to report vandalism caused by an registered user. The so called User:MazzyBor keeps uploading mostly Serbian and Yugoslavian flags in a never adopted darker color shade (see file history) or putting colors from the socialist period on the +40 older monarch version (see file history). Recently he started rewriting history (see file history) and spreading Serbian irredentism by overwriting a correct map, claiming former Byzantine lands/almost the entire Balkans were Serbia in the year 1358 and Austria beeing a part of Germany (which was not even unified in that time), he also made countries like the "Republic of Ragusa" totally disappear and created new like "Thrace" - which was a part of the by Ottomans occupied Byzantine Empire. (No sources were even added on this edit; I have reverted it to the correct version)

I just wanted to report this, and I hope someone will have time to check this out.

Best regards, MateoKatanaCRO (talk) 14:50, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As of May 3rd, his arguments are "You cant be more knowledgeable then me about my own country.". --MateoKatanaCRO (talk) 15:16, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Check this and this aswell. He has even been notified by an admin because of uncontroversial corrections. --MateoKatanaCRO (talk) 15:35, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I warned him not to overwrite files with different content and left him another message regarding his contributions. If this kind of unconstructive uploading continues, a block will be warranted. Supposedly incorrect maps by this user containing original research should also be nominated for deletion if they appear as standalone files. De728631 (talk) 16:44, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Blocked for one week because of intimidation/harassment of user MateoKatanaCRO. De728631 (talk) 14:04, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@De728631: Block evasion from IP. Ankry (talk) 20:47, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
✓ Done Blocked and reverted. (You probably mean this edit.) Yann (talk) 03:59, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Plainjane344

All this user's uploads are photographs of luggage made by a company called Skooba; they appear to be copies of promotional photos from the company itself. I nominated a couple for deletion where I could find the original but on reflection that's not the right way to go about it; either the user works for the company (from their Wikipedia contribs, that is a given) and can go via OTRS for permission (and fix the "own work" claim), or the whole lot should be deleted as copyvio. I hope this is an appropriate venue to find someone who can sort this out. Pinkbeast (talk) 12:47, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done. After you warned her, uploads have stopped. Big photos with EXIF and not particularly promotional. Sometimes company name is even not visible. If she continues, then she can be blocked, but promotion is not totally prohibited in Commons, if they give good free photos about their products. If you suspect, that rest of her uploads are copyvios as well, then you can create a deletion request. Taivo (talk) 07:11, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure I quite follow. I expect if I created a deletion request for any given photo, it would be deleted; while it seems extremely likely to me that Plainjane344 works for Skooba, there is no actual proof that that is the case and even if there was the "own work" source is unlikely to be accurate. I would expect a corporate wanting to release its promotional photos in this fashion (something I agree is not prohibited) to have to go via OTRS. So... can't we do the whole lot at once? Pinkbeast (talk) 02:37, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Can an admin please look into this brand new user? His only action was to interfere with an administrative action here, regarding the alleged sockpuppeting of User:Solomon203. I reverted his edit, but if this edit was justified, I ask an administrator to revert back. --CEphoto, Uwe Aranas (talk) 10:13, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done Obviously not here to contribute positively. Yann (talk) 10:31, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Just stumbled over some weird edits of SLV100 (talk · contributions · Move log · block log · uploads · Abuse filter log. Unfortunately, that fumbling around with other people's contributions (like converting a DR to a Speedy-DR) as well as this obviously uncontrollable attraction to archives (like Commons:Deletion requests/Archive/2018/05) immediately makes his "past life" associate — and something about it scares me a little. In any case, that beaviour should — the following parallels in abnormalities should give cause — not only be observed:

Otherwise I dare to predict that it will not be long before archives are handled again (see the user's disc).

Some probable socks he's trolling around:

--Jotzet (talk) 15:19, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

P.S.: After a nap it goes on ([19], [20], [21]).

P.P.S.: It is unlikely that the stripper was satisfied for years without any user rights, so such "master account" would have to be determined. --Jotzet (talk) 08:30, 6 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Info [11] and [14] was in response to spam edits by User:2600:1004:B01A:3722:B5C3:7AAF:3D0C:EDA4 saying "I am being hacke" [16], [18], and [21] New user User:Samanthathepirate had uploaded a file and within an hour had requested its deletion. Thus, it qualified for speedy deletion; "Author or uploader request deletion: Original author or uploader requests deletion of recently created (<7 days) unused content. For author/uploader requests for deletion of content that is older a deletion request should be filled instead." The only other account I have used is User:107.178.36.24, because my browser logged me out and I didn't notice. -- SLV100 (talk) 16:02, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Backarn

Backarn (talk · contribs)

Long-term abuser (already blocked in svwiki, under investigation in enwiki) uploaded two copyrighted files under Fair use: 1, 2. When i add deletion request, he's reverting me. --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 09:27, 6 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Triggerhippie4: And why do you keep adding the deletion request? Didn't I just tell you: "Here we go again... he keeps slandering me and keeps claiming that the images are copyrighted, thus uploaded under the wrong license despite the fact that I repetadley linked to the respective countries' local laws which clearly allows for uploading such images." [22] Backarn (talk) 09:36, 6 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Triggerhippie4 and Backarn: Do not edit war. Consider this a warning. In case you want to contest a deletion, please open a regular deletion request, where the merits of the deletion can be discussed over a week. The files in question have been speedily deleted now. I consider this issue ✓ Done. Sebari – aka Srittau (talk) 09:17, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Fanandthelights

Fanandthelights (talk · contribs) continues copyright violations after warnings and block. --Patrick Rogel (talk) 11:54, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done, indef, no useful contributions. Sebari – aka Srittau (talk) 12:07, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It is likely a sock of Mittalwiki (talk · contributions · Move log · block log · uploads · Abuse filter log who is not blocked. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 07:27, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Mittalwiki was blocked from 17 April to 24 April for uploading copyvios, and has not uploaded since.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 14:44, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Personal attack

Personal attack at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Flag of Aceh Sultanate.svg. I cannot translate such an expression, sorry. --E4024 (talk) 14:29, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm also sorry for not notifying the user, the first person I have ever reported here, as I will not be able to speak to someone who uses that kind of words. --E4024 (talk) 15:50, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I notified the user Sebirkhan for you, since you were upset. Ellin Beltz (talk) 16:29, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'm upset now. --E4024 (talk) 16:34, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]