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Property proposal: Generic Authority control Person Organization
Creative work Place Sports Sister projects
Transportation Natural science Computing Lexeme

See also

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This page is for the proposal of new properties.

Before proposing a property

  1. Search if the property already exists.
  2. Search if the property has already been proposed.
  3. Check if you can give a similar label and definition as an existing Wikipedia infobox parameter, or if it can be matched to an infobox, to or from which data can be transferred automatically.
  4. Select the right datatype for the property.
  5. Read Wikidata:Creating a property proposal for guidelines you should follow when proposing new property.
  6. Start writing the documentation based on the preload form below by editing the two templates at the top of the page to add proposal details.

Creating the property

  1. Once consensus is reached, change status=ready on the template, to attract the attention of a property creator.
  2. Creation can be done 1 week after the creation of the proposal, by a property creator or an administrator.
  3. See property creation policy.

General

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L'Humanité topic ID

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   Under discussion
Descriptionidentifier for a topic on the L'Humanité website
RepresentsL'Humanité (Q1137404)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainitem
Example 1French Communist Party (Q192821)pcf
Example 2Dominique de Villepin (Q131660)dominique-de-villepin
Example 32024 United States presidential election (Q101110072)presidentielle-americaine-2024
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://www.humanite.fr/mot-cle/$1
See alsoL'Humanité journalist ID (P10569)
Wikidata projectWikiProject France (Q10816832)

Motivation

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Beauciup de "tag" réunissant tous les articles.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Legonin (talk • contribs) at 06:00, September 17, 2024‎ (UTC).

Discussion

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VIGNERON
Ayack
Ash Crow
Tubezlob
PAC2
Thierry Caro
Pymouss
Alphos
GAllegre
Jean-Frédéric
Manu1400
Marianne Casamance
Nattes à chat
Pierre André
Bouzinac
Jsamwrites
Baidax
LearnKnowGive1
Mathieu Kappler
Daieuxetdailleurs
Archives nationales DJI
Jmax
LearnKnowGive1
Koxinga
Maxime
Framawiki
Legonin
Rémi sim

Notified participants of WikiProject France  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Legonin (talk • contribs) at 08:09, 21 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

VIGNERON
Ayack
Ash Crow
Tubezlob
PAC2
Thierry Caro
Pymouss
Alphos
GAllegre
Jean-Frédéric
Manu1400
Marianne Casamance
Nattes à chat
Pierre André
Bouzinac
Jsamwrites
Baidax
LearnKnowGive1
Mathieu Kappler
Daieuxetdailleurs
Archives nationales DJI
Jmax
LearnKnowGive1
Koxinga
Maxime
Framawiki
Legonin
Rémi sim

Notified participants of WikiProject France - re-pinging, since the previous one was unsigned (and therefore didn't work). --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 09:53, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

‎beer style

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   Under discussion
Descriptionclassification of a beer based on its style
Representsbeer style (Q1998962)
Data typeItem
Domainbeer (Q44)
Allowed valuessubclasses or instances of beer style (Q1998962)
Example 1Hertog Jan Grand Prestige (Q2176488)barley wine (Q808329)
Example 2Coors Light (Q5168060)light beer (Q1814622)
Example 3Grolsch 0.0% (Q61043304)low-alcohol beer (Q524679)
Example 4Brand IPA (Q19884261)India Pale Ale (Q1543214)
See alsobeer bitterness (P6088), beer color (P6089)

Motivation

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Beer style is a key classification for differentiating beers by their characteristics, complementing existing properties like beer color and bitterness.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mitsjol (talk • contribs) at 10:43, September 30, 2024‎ (UTC).

Discussion

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‎Department of Defense Identification Code

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   Ready Create
Descriptionidentification code for ordnance of the United States military
RepresentsDepartment of Defense Identification Code (Q130394184)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainweapon model (Q15142894)
Allowed values([A-Z]\d{3}|[A-Z]{2}\d{s})
Example 1BLU-109B/B (Q130394989)EC72
Example 2BLU-109C/B (Q130394999)ED49
Example 3M718A1 (Q130411460)D515
Example 4M741A1 (Q130411473)D514
Sourcehttps://web.archive.org/web/20240930063511/https://www.quantico.marines.mil/portals/147/docs/safety/yellow%20book%20rev%2019%20dated%20february%202021.pdf
Planned useUniquely identify variants of models of American manufactured bomb, missile, rocket, small arms munitions, etc by DODIC and associated NSN and other labels supplied in the "Yellow Book".
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Applicable "stated in"-valueJoint Hazard Classification System (Q130394198)
Single-value constraintyes
Distinct-values constraintyes

Motivation

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Wikipedia and Wikidata have only very basic information on military ordnance (missiles, bombs, rockets, small arms munitions, tank and artillery rounds, etc) even though publications such as the Yellow Book and public NSN part information provides detail on exact variants of ordnance. For example, Wikipedia may have a page on a "Mk 82 bomb" but this is a highly conflated item which may include different variants of a bomb casing (with varying amounts of explosive) and with different guidance systems attached. Applying a DODIC code allows these variants to be listed out as separate Wikidata items, avoiding conflation of topics. --Dhx1 (talk) 06:29, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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  •  Comment If this is limited to ordnance, shouldn't ordnance be in the name of the property? AdamSeattle (talk) 04:04, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
     Comment "DODIC" is the official name of the identifier that people interested in this property would search for. It is unhelpfully non-descriptive as many military acronyms are. Rather than the name being clear in purpose, the description of the property (which Wikidata controls) makes clear what this identifier achieves. Dhx1 (talk) 22:49, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Is the source pdf a complete list, if not how will other values be found? How many values are expected in total?
     Comment It's an ever expanding list. There is a database YellowBook.sqlite as part of a now-defunct Android app YellowBook v2.1.0 (APK still available online on non-official app stores) which lists 5288 DODIC codes per query "SELECT COUNT(*) FROM (SELECT DODIC FROM MunitionsHazardClass GROUP BY DODIC);". Future changes would have to be obtained through means such as being mentioned in official budget papers for Army, Air Force, Navy, Marines, etc for the type of ordnance budgeted to be procured, or a new app or new PDF publication. --Dhx1 (talk) 22:46, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
     Support proposer has a good plan. Vicarage (talk) 03:45, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Libération topic ID

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Descriptionidentifier for a topic on the website of Libération
RepresentsLibération (Q13717)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainitem
Example 1Gabriel Attal (Q30339350)gabriel-attal
Example 2flood (Q8068)inondation
Example 3Nobel Prize (Q7191)prix-nobel
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://www.liberation.fr/tags/$1/
See alsoLibération journalist ID (P10575)
Wikidata projectWikiProject France (Q10816832)

Motivation

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Comme les propriétés correspondant aux mots-clés des sites web des grands périodiques français sont progressivement ajoutées (Le Monde ID (P5558), Le Figaro tag ID (P6621), une proposition récente pour L'Humanité), il est cohérent d'ajouter celle pour le site web de Libération. Les articles répertoriés sont certes récents à l'année, mais offrent toutefois une perspective sur le cœur de l'actualité médiatique. Certaines pages proposent, en plus, une phrase, voire un paragraphe, de présentation du sujet. — Baidax 💬 14:48, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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VIGNERON
Ayack
Ash Crow
Tubezlob
PAC2
Thierry Caro
Pymouss
Alphos
GAllegre
Jean-Frédéric
Manu1400
Marianne Casamance
Nattes à chat
Pierre André
Bouzinac
Jsamwrites
Baidax
LearnKnowGive1
Mathieu Kappler
Daieuxetdailleurs
Archives nationales DJI
Jmax
LearnKnowGive1
Koxinga
Maxime
Framawiki
Legonin
Rémi sim

Notified participants of WikiProject France

 Support également JDD (ex.), Mediapart tag ID (P6813), L'Express person ID (P6620), Le Parisien tag ID (P6622), Courrier international topic ID (P5551), Le Monde diplomatique subject ID (P3612), France 24 topic ID (French) (P9346) et autres langues, Objectif Gard topic ID (P6277), Mediapart tag ID (P6813), La Croix (ex.), Ouest-France (ex.), 20 Minutes (France, ex.), les échos (ex.), L'Opinion (ex.), Le Point (ex.), Le Canard Enchainé (ex.), Télérama (ex.), Capital (ex.), L'équipe sujet (a ne pas confondre avec les fiches, ex.), Marianne (ex., la plupart visible dans les rubriques dans le menu à dérouler), Le Pèlerin (ex., idem), Challenges (ex.), La Vie (ex.), Les Inrocks (ex.), Paris Match (ex.), Elle (ex.), L'alsace (ex.), Le Berry (ex.), Le Dauphiné libéré (ex.)...

@Legonin: le problème avec Le JDD, c'est qu'il propose plusieurs autres formats avec des sous-pages, par exemple lejdd.fr/Tags/Parti-socialiste ou lejdd.fr/dossiers/afrique. — Baidax 💬 12:48, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
On pourrait résoudre ça avec la possibilité de mettre ses sous pages.Legonin (talk) 16:43, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Baidax, Legonin: ✓ Done: Libération topic ID (P13113). --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 13:35, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

identifiant Les Inrockuptibles d'un sujet

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   Under discussion
Descriptionidentifiant d'un sujet sur le site Les Inrockuptibles (fr) – (Please translate this into English.)
RepresentsLes Inrockuptibles (Q2758142)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainitem
Example 1Donald Trump (Q22686)donald-trump
Example 2Netflix (Q907311)netflix
Example 32024 Cannes Film Festival (Q119141934)cannes-2024
Example 4Yelle (Q18574071)yelle
Example 5Anatomy of a Fall (Q117037697)anatomie-dune-chute
Example 6Emily in Paris (Q64584978)emily-in-paris
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttp://www.lesinrocks.com/tag/$1
Wikidata projectWikiProject France (Q10816832)

Motivation

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Plein d'IDs et articles très intéressant. Pas mal de sujet/tags de journaux proposé et déjà sur Wikidata.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Legonin (talk • contribs) at 07:15, 16 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Discussion

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VIGNERON
Ayack
Ash Crow
Tubezlob
PAC2
Thierry Caro
Pymouss
Alphos
GAllegre
Jean-Frédéric
Manu1400
Marianne Casamance
Nattes à chat
Pierre André
Bouzinac
Jsamwrites
Baidax
LearnKnowGive1
Mathieu Kappler
Daieuxetdailleurs
Archives nationales DJI
Jmax
LearnKnowGive1
Koxinga
Maxime
Framawiki
Legonin
Rémi sim

Notified participants of WikiProject France  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Legonin (talk • contribs) at 07:15, 16 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

‎European Legislation Identifier (EU)

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   Under discussion
DescriptionEU legislation identifier for documents published by the EU
Data typeExternal identifier
Example 1directive on open data and the re-use of public sector information (Q98399993)dir/2019/1024/oj
Example 2Capital Requirements Directive (Q1034661)dir/2013/36/oj
Example 3Solvency II Directive (Q1255619)dir/2009/138/oj
Source
Formatter URLhttp://data.europa.eu/eli/$1
Robot and gadget jobsImport from Eur-lex by So9qBot is planned for existing items.
Single-value constraintyes
Distinct-values constraintyes

Motivation

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This is an important identifier for EU legislation.--So9q (talk) 10:43, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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Notified participants of WikiProject European Union, @Ainali, Belteshassar: Redoing the ping because it requires a signature after it. Samoasambia 14:33, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Weak oppose I'm not really sure why would we need this property because we already have CELEX number (P476) (it's the "32013L0036" ChristianKl mentioned) and full work available at URL (P953) where we could add the ELI URL. P953 is useful because it is used e.g. by Template:Cite Q (Q22321052). Samoasambia 14:33, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
European Legislation Identifier is basically a common URL and metadata format for laws in EU member states and the EU itself. Here's a few examples: http://data.finlex.fi/eli/sd/1734/4, http://data.europa.eu/eli/dir/2013/36/oj, https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/eli/loi/2023/4/14/2023-270/jo/texte, https://www.retsinformation.dk/eli/lta/2014/1603. Some of the URLs are actual pages and some of them just redirects. Unfortunately there does not seem to be any central domain from which you could be redirected to the right national database, so ELI properties would have to be done separately for each country (and the EU itself). Samoasambia 15:09, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

French environmental protection classification

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   Under discussion
DescriptionIndustrial or agricultural operations generating risks to health and the environment are regulated in France. The various risks are organized into headings in the nomenclature of installations classified for environmental protection. The dangers, pollution and nuisances of each operation are listed by public authorities.
Data typeItem
DomainQ3151661
Allowed valuesQ125631811
Example 1Raffinerie de Feyzin (Q3417389)Q125635166
Example 2Chemical factory, Balan (Q16511667)Q125639692
Example 3ArcelorMittal Dunkerque (Q21164927)Q125636796
Example 4Q130526075Q125635500
Example 5Q123267504Q125635414

Motivation

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Cette propriété est importante pour recenser les dangers pour la santé et l'environnement associés aux activités économiques. Une propriété dédiée permettra d'ajouter les qualificatifs pertinents (dates, références, etc.) pour chaque risque. Arpyia (talk) 08:53, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

VIGNERON
Ayack
Ash Crow
Tubezlob
PAC2
Thierry Caro
Pymouss
Alphos
GAllegre
Jean-Frédéric
Manu1400
Marianne Casamance
Nattes à chat
Pierre André
Bouzinac
Jsamwrites
Baidax
LearnKnowGive1
Mathieu Kappler
Daieuxetdailleurs
Archives nationales DJI
Jmax
LearnKnowGive1
Koxinga
Maxime
Framawiki
Legonin
Rémi sim

Notified participants of WikiProject France

Discussion

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VIGNERON
Ayack
Ash Crow
Tubezlob
PAC2
Thierry Caro
Pymouss
Alphos
GAllegre
Jean-Frédéric
Manu1400
Marianne Casamance
Nattes à chat
Pierre André
Bouzinac
Jsamwrites
Baidax
LearnKnowGive1
Mathieu Kappler
Daieuxetdailleurs
Archives nationales DJI
Jmax
LearnKnowGive1
Koxinga
Maxime
Framawiki
Legonin
Rémi sim

Notified participants of WikiProject France. Ping needs a signature to work. Samoasambia 14:07, 22 October 2024 (UTC)*[reply]

‎operating cost

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   Under discussion
Descriptionongoing recurring cost for operating or using an object
Representsoperating cost (Q831940)
Data typeQuantity
Domainactivity (Q1914636), architectural structure (Q811979), facility (Q13226383), artificial object (Q16686448)
Allowed values0-10000000000000
Allowed unitscurrency (Q8142) per unit of time (USD/year, EUR/month, etc)
Example 1F-35A Lightning II (Q17519093)USD$6.6m/year
Example 2swimming pool (Q1501)USD$1450/year
Example 3Tesla Model 3 (Q7705507)USD$623/year
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
See alsocapital cost (P2130)

Motivation

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capital cost (P2130) already captures the initial capital cost of an object (building, vehicle, etc) but there is no equivalent property for capturing the recurring ongoing costs of maintaining and operating an object.

Qualifiers such as determination method or standard (P459) and valid in period (P1264) would be very important to use with this property as there are many ways to calculate an operating cost for equipment or a building. In the Tesla Model 3 example provided (USD$623/year) this was only an estimate valid at a point in time, for the first five years of ownership of a car, and excluding a number of other operating costs such as electricity and insurance.

--Dhx1 (talk) 03:22, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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  •  Weak support A week support from me, because I think it needs a qualifier of sort. I think the cost of annual ownership can benefit from qualifier of a country, region, city, where it's owned. For example, cost of ownership of Tesla car in Norway and US differ tremendously. Also, I think it would benefit from more time periods like 5 year and so on, but I'm not certain about it. --David Osipov (talk) 12:11, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment The time span should be specified using duration (P2047) qualifier; otherwise you need to create items for every combination of currencies with day/week/month/year, which would be a nightmare for editors and data consumers. Dexxor (talk) 17:57, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

‎effective life of asset

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   Under discussion
Descriptionduration of time which an object/asset is expected to be used before needing to be disposed of or replaced
Data typeQuantity
Domainartificial object (Q16686448)
Allowed unitsunit of time (Q1790144) or any other useful unit of measurement for lifespan of an object (kilometres traveled, engine hours, flight hours, etc)
Example 1CT scanner (Q128486784)10 years
Example 2combine harvester (Q26886)12 years
Example 3laptop (Q3962)2 years
SourceExample: https://www.ato.gov.au/law/view/document?DocID=ITD/EF20151C8/00001&PiT=99991231235958
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
See alsodiscontinued date (P2669), service retirement (P730), life expectancy (P2250)

Motivation

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There is no property existing for the expected useful lifespan of an artificial object (such as a machine, tool, vehicle or building) after which it is expected the object needs replacing due to wear and tear, obsolescence, lack of support and lack of maintainability.

This concept is useful in finance for determining the current value of a purchased asset for taxation and financial reporting reasons. It is also useful for consumer items such as toothbrushes, phones, computers which are replaced regularly for reasons of wear and tear and obsolescence of technology.

--Dhx1 (talk) 03:23, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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  •  Oppose This varies per product and also the lifespan of a laptop obviously is not just 2 years. --Prototyperspective (talk) 09:46, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    My thought with this property proposal is that qualifiers such as determination method or standard (P459) and the references are critical. This property could be used 10 times on laptop (Q3962) all with different sources such as standards for asset management and taxation depreciation schedules of different governments. Thus the users of this property have to pick and choose whichever of these 10 statements is most useful to them. For example, the life of a laptop (Q3962) could be 5 years after first product release until it is typically expected to be obsolete and would be scrapped, could by 3 years as determined by continuous use causing battery degradation and wear and tear typically requiring replacement, could differ in expectations between a government in country X versus country Y depending on affluence of the country and wiliness to adopt newer technologies and scrap older ones seen as obsolete, etc. Dhx1 (talk) 12:42, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't know of anybody who would replace a laptop after just 5 years. Moreover, the planned obsolescence of laptops, smartphones, several plastic products, and so on are a major problem and WD should not normalize or reinforce that by suggesting this is how long these products inherently last. They can last much longer, for example via standardized replacement parts + requirement to be somewhat modular and having parts (such as battery) offered individually. Prototyperspective (talk) 12:13, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Weak support It's connected to depreciation of an item, which is a correct accounting notion. But weak support from me, because it needs to have qualifiers like Determination method, Usage frequency of some sort. I would suggest looking up various calculation methods of the effective life of a depreciating asset, writing them out and starting to propose these qualifiers along with this property. Without these qualifiers, the property alone is deceiving. --David Osipov (talk) 12:18, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose something like "depreciation period" would be a better way to store information on the legal depreciation period than a more generally named property. ChristianKl09:01, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

‎ITV News topic ID

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   Under discussion
Descriptionidentifier for a topic on the ITV News website
RepresentsITV News (Q4189762)
Data typeExternal identifier
Example 1Europe (Q46)europe
Example 2Boris Johnson (Q180589)boris-johnson
Example 3M5 motorway (Q1824663)m5-motorway
Example 4Wales (Q25)wales
Example 5science (Q336)science
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://www.itv.com/news/topic/$1
URL match pattern^https?:\/\/(?:www\.)?itv\.com\/news\/topic\/([a-z0-9]+)
web page title extract pattern (P10999) ^ITV\ News\ :\ The\ Latest\ (.+)\ News$
See alsoGuardian topic ID (P3106), BBC News topic ID (P6200), Sky News topic ID (P11632)
Single-value constraintyes
Distinct-values constraintyes

Motivation

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A Wikidata property to identify news website topics (Q105946994) for ITV News (Q4189762), one of the most significant news sources in the United Kingdom.

The IDs seem stable, going back to at least 2012. --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 12:44, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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‎Toki Pona headnoun

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   Under discussion
DescriptionToki Pona common noun for which the name serves as a proper modifier
Data typeLexeme
Allowed valueslanguage=tok
Example 1Sonja Lang (Q12854)Toki Pona headnounjan (L220656)
Example 2Tamzin Hadasa Kelly (Q127401579)Toki Pona headnounwan (L220805)
Example 3United States of America (Q30)Toki Pona headnounma (L220703)

Motivation

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First of all, no, I don't know why there's an item about me, but I might as well use it as an example! So, in Toki Pona, names only ever serve as adjectives. So even though my name is Tansin, one can't refer to me as just that. Instead, a name must modify a common noun, which essentially serves as Toki Pona's own "instance of" statement. So it's not Mewika, but rather ma Mewika 'country called Mewika'. The ma there, is not however semantically part of the name of the country, and contextually could be replaced with some other word (for instance, a critic of the U.S. could say ike Mewika, 'bad thing called Mewika').

This common noun is called a headnoun. Some people refer to themselves with a headnoun other than jan 'person', which thereby functions as something between a courtesy title and preferred pronoun. For instance, I usually use wan 'union' to refer to myself, and that's the name I'm credited under in the acknowledgments to Toki Pona Dictionary (Q108617357). My item thus gives a name (P2561) of wan Tansin, but that's akin to saying my name in English is "person named Tamzin". One solution would be to simply remove wan, but that word is required information to understand how to refer to me in Toki Pona.

My understanding is that language-specific properties have been approved in the past, e.g. Vietnamese middle name (P8500) and second family name in Spanish name (P1950). -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe) 23:18, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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‎Provides data for property

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   Under discussion
Descriptionthe dataset associated with this external id usually contains data applicable to this other wikidata property
Data typeProperty
Domainexternal id properties
Example 1Deku Deals ID (P8364)price (P2284)
Example 2MyWaifuList character ID (P13031)height (P2048)
Example 3IMDb ID (P345)title (P1476)
Example 4Fandom article ID (P6262)unknown
See alsostated in (P248)

Motivation

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I was asked by @Kirilloparma: to save certain references not with reference URL (P854) but instead (for instance) ‎Playdate Catalog ID (P12125) in Wikidata:Tools/Wikidata for Web.

My concerns regarding this was that, I cannot automatically distinguish between data provided by the database item behind ‎Playdate Catalog ID (P12125) and information that just happens to be found under the same url.

Let's say the footer of a page might contain an email address, that is not related to the person reviewed in the page.

Or isbnsearch.org would tell me the title of a book but I wouldn't use ISBN-13 (P212) as the reference.

Now if I had an indication that a url that resolves to (for instance) an IMDb ID (P345) usually holds the information that applies to title (P1476), then I could make the assumption that it would make for a fitting reference statement when extracting this property from the url.

This information could be useful for other tools like:

  • A tool that tells you that an item should have a title and that you could find it on the IMDB
  • A tool that highlights a reference that might be faulty because it occours in an unusual context. Let's say Deku Deals ID (P8364) is used on a date of birth (P569) statement.

If an ID points to a wiki, that could hold all kinds of statements, it should be set to unknown.

Discussion

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@Addshore: –Shisma (talk) 10:00, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Support I quite like the idea, and it falls in line with what I am trying to do with more visual cues on items for the viability of references / sources and notability ·addshore· talk to me! 10:23, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Question Same as supported metadata (P8203)? Midleading (talk) 15:06, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what this is meant for but the datatype is different. So it's definitely not the same. – Shisma (talk) 15:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
supported metadata (P8203) can be used to tell what kind of data a database stores, and not being limited to data that Wikidata has a property for. The example PubMed ID (Q2082879)supported metadata (P8203)digital object identifier (Q25670) is no different from the examples given here except that it accepts items which can be created by anyone. Midleading (talk) 04:03, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Support -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 16:56, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Support Knowing the data a property may hold would be helpful for sourcing statements on items. --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 01:03, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Support Useful. --Prototyperspective (talk) 12:14, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Resistance in Belgium ID

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Descriptionidentifier of persons, administrative areas, resistance organizations of world war 2,... on https://data.arch.be/
Representsno label (Q130564724)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainhuman (Q5), organization (Q43229), country (Q6256)
Example 1Groupe G (Q1767773)Q3790
Example 2Walthère Dewé (Q631073)Q7400
Example 3Ixelles - Elsene (Q208713)Q104
Example 4Belgium (Q31)Q5
Sourcehttps://data.arch.be/, https://query.data.arch.be/,
Planned useAdd the identifier to already created Wikidata Qid's.
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://data.arch.be/wiki/Item:$1
CountryBelgium (Q31)
Applicable "stated in"-valueQ130564724
Single-value constraintyes
Wikidata projectWikiProject World War II (Q10653810)

Motivation

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Resistance in Belgium is a platform that makes it possible to do research on the resistance in Belgium during the Second World War.
 Comment: This database contains mostly persons, but most of them are only known in this database (Wikidata:Notability). That's why I said in the 'planned use' section that I will only use the ID for already created Wikidata QIDs.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by RVA2869 (talk • contribs) at 10:51, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Discussion

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