View source for Wikidata:Property proposal/WikiKids ID

== {{TranslateThis | anchor = en
| nl = WikiKids ID
| en = WikiKids ID
| fr = WikiKids ID}}==
{{Property proposal
| description                = {{TranslateThis
| nl = ID van het artikel op WikiKids
| en = ID of the article on WikiKids
| fr = ID de l'article sur WikiKids
 }}
| subject item               = Q4875708
| status                     = 12086
| datatype                   = external-id
| example 1                  = {{Statement|Q68|→|[https://wikikids.nl/Computer Computer]}}
| example 2                  = {{Statement|Q55|→|[https://wikikids.nl/Nederland Nederland]}}
| example 3                  = {{Statement|Q5891|→|[https://wikikids.nl/Filosofie Filosofie]}}
| example 4                  = {{Statement|Q2831|→|[https://wikikids.nl/Michael_Jackson Michael Jackson]}}
| planned use                = Link WikiKids articles with theirs corresponding item, improve interwiki links between WikiKids and Vikidia, etc. 
| number of ids              = >40,000
| expected completeness      = Q21873886
| see also                   = [[Wikidata:Property proposal/Vikidia article]], {{P|P7818}}, {{P|P7829}}, {{p|P7822}}, {{p|P7827}}, {{p|P7832}}, {{p|P7841}}, {{p|P7843}}, {{p|P9123}}, {{p|P9124}})
| subpage                    = WikiKids
|topic			= authority control
|formatter URL		= https://wikikids.nl/$1
|external links         = https://wikikids.nl
|robot and gadget jobs	= 
}}

=== Motivation ===
{{Q|4875708}} (in dutch) and  {{Q|79419012}} are the two biggest encyclopedia for children. Albeit independent of {{Q|3051048}}, WikiKids share interwiki links with several {{Q|79411422}} : {{Q|79419015}}, {{Q|79419012}}, {{Q|79419019}}, {{Q|Q79419017}}... which allready have their Wikidata property.

A Wikikids property will allow to better feed these interwiki links, make queries, links articles with a Commons category or any Wikidata data. <small>&nbsp;&ndash; {{Autotranslate|base=Unsigned/text|1=Astirmays|2=13:25, 30 September 2023}}</small><!--Inserted with Template:Unsigned-->

=== Talk ===
[https://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Vikidia:Coopération_avec_WikiKids/Questions#Wikidata Op Vikidia vroeg de oprichter waarom WikiKids nog geen een Wikidata-property had.] Daarom zou ik graag WikiKids ook een Wikidata-property willen laten krijgen, net als alle Vikidia's ([https://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Vikidia:Wikidata zie ook hier]). Deze Wikidata-property kan dan gebruikt worden om interwiki-links te verbeteren tussen WikiKids en Vikidia. [[User:S. Perquin|S. Perquin]] ([[User talk:S. Perquin|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:31, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
:Eerst bespreken op WikiKids. Voordat er iets wordt gedaan. [[User:Rots61|Rots61]] ([[User talk:Rots61|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:36, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
::Ga ik doen! Ik heb Gerard Dümmer in ieder geval al een bericht gestuurd! [[User:S. Perquin|S. Perquin]] ([[User talk:S. Perquin|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:37, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
:::Gerard Dümmer heeft gereageerd: "Ik heb hier zelf ook nog niet naar gekeken eerder. Als de inter-wiki links ermee verbeterd kunnen worden dan lijkt mij dat prima." Met vriendelijke groet, [[User:S. Perquin|S. Perquin]] ([[User talk:S. Perquin|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:53, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
::::There is consensus for this on WikiKids. [https://wikikids.nl/Wikikids:Clubhuis#Wikidata-property] [[User:Rots61|Rots61]] ([[User talk:Rots61|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:12, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

* {{Support}}, both for Wikikids itself and for some better cooperation with Vikidia. [[User:Astirmays|Astirmays]] ([[User talk:Astirmays|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:25, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
* {{Support}} - I don't know if I'm allowed to vote on my own proposal, but I think this is a good idea to advance interlanguage links and interwiki linking between WikiKids and other wikis, like Vikidia. [[User:S. Perquin|S. Perquin]] ([[User talk:S. Perquin|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:48, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
:: {{Ping|S. Perquin}} No, you cannot vote for your own proposal. Your vote was eventually not counted, but since there is support from other users, the [[WD:PCC|property creation criteria]] are met. Regards [[User:Kirilloparma|Kirilloparma]] ([[User talk:Kirilloparma|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:13, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
* {{support}}, great idea! I think it could be great for working together! [[User:Groempdebeer|Groempdebeer]] ([[User talk:Groempdebeer|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:57, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
* {{Support}}, but I suggest that instead of spending countless hours on redundant work you just do machine translation of simple.wiki articles within the encyclopedia's scope (e.g. using DeepL and modified). Also sooner or later there should probably be a field for children-oriented wikis instead so we don't have one property for each language. --[[User:Prototyperspective|Prototyperspective]] ([[User talk:Prototyperspective|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:38, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
*:Well you raise a big question. Actually, the wikipedias are far from being just translations one from another, for some reason I guess... Does simple.wiki fit so well for children? Whatever, it is scarcely displayed as for children. There are a few considerations on this subject on [[m:Wikikids/Relation to Simple English Wikipedia]] ("Wikikids" here is the name of a proposal for a new Wikimedia sister project, not the existing Wikikids.nl), and you can also read [https://www.wikimedia.fr/vikidia-in-english-opens-today-lets-build-a-children-wiki-encyclopedia/] and [[vikidia:en:User:Astirmays/Vikidia, an equivalent of Wikipedia for children and the information and participation rights]]. What do you mean by "a field for children-oriented wikis"? Would it be one unique property for the encyclopedia for children, and a language qualifier? [[User:Astirmays|Astirmays]] ([[User talk:Astirmays|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:16, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
*::One of the main reasons is simply that machine translation has until now been very inaccurate and introduces a lot of errors due to people not translating manually or writing anew. But let's not discuss this here. I just mentioned simple.wiki – people are also free to inefficiently spend time writing articles completely anew instead of only parts of them or revising them. (Maybe also full simple wiki articles could be included as is for an English version.) Interesting link, thanks. Yes, exactly...not a random encyclopedia but an openly-editable Wiki for children and a language-qualifier. [[User:Prototyperspective|Prototyperspective]] ([[User talk:Prototyperspective|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:44, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
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* {{Ping|S. Perquin|Rots61|Astirmays|Groempdebeer|Prototyperspective}} {{Done}}: {{P|12086}}. Regards [[User:Kirilloparma|Kirilloparma]] ([[User talk:Kirilloparma|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:12, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
*:Thank you! [[User:S. Perquin|S. Perquin]] ([[User talk:S. Perquin|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:12, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
::: You're welcome! Regards [[User:Kirilloparma|Kirilloparma]] ([[User talk:Kirilloparma|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:33, 13 October 2023 (UTC)