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I never write reviews, but i've seen this movie twice and it does the job of keeping you intrigued and shows how someone can take control of another's life/well being. I wasn't going to comment until I was reading the bad reviews, and it seems each of them is insulting the movie; but also each of them bring up J-Los body!!! what does her body have to do with the movie? just say it's bad and move on!! don't start insulting looks.
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- aleenas-19473
- Jun 27, 2020
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There have been many movies like this that have come before, but this one was more inspiring as I felt that the protagonist took more responsibility for herself by learning to fight and learning self defense. That is an extremely empowering aspect we don't always see, it's usually more about hiding.
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First off...why does the fact that this movie deals with spousal abuse and a woman smart enough to run and hide automatically make it a ripoff of "Sleeping with the Enemy"? Because "The Count of Monte Cristo" has swordplay, does that make it a ripoff of all of the Zorro movies, or the Robin Hood movies? Does the fact that Spiderman is a Marvel Superhero make it a ripoff of "The X-Men"? Of course not. And only the very basic storylines make "Enough" and "Sleeping..." similar at all. Let me illustrate...
In "Sleeping with the Enemy", Julia Roberts plays a weak willed woman who stays with her mentally abusive husband until she finally has enough and leaves when she gets the chance to fake her death. Julia never changes...always the weak willed, scared out of her gourd hiding wife.
In "Enough", Jennifer Lopez plays a strong minded woman who decides to leave her abusive husband as soon as she finds out what he is really like. Jennifer never changes either...but in this case she maintains her strength, and although scared out of her gourd also, she sets out to confront him in a physical battle...his forte usually.
This movie was great entertainment. Anyone who says they felt this was a total yawner, with no tension at all is too critical. This is what entertainment is about. This was a great way to spend 2 hours as far as I am concerned.
Ms Lopez is becoming a better actress with each film. But, as far as the female actresses go in this flick...the little girl who portrayed Jennifer's daughter out-acted everyone else...male or female. Two thumbs UP for this little lady!!
In "Sleeping with the Enemy", Julia Roberts plays a weak willed woman who stays with her mentally abusive husband until she finally has enough and leaves when she gets the chance to fake her death. Julia never changes...always the weak willed, scared out of her gourd hiding wife.
In "Enough", Jennifer Lopez plays a strong minded woman who decides to leave her abusive husband as soon as she finds out what he is really like. Jennifer never changes either...but in this case she maintains her strength, and although scared out of her gourd also, she sets out to confront him in a physical battle...his forte usually.
This movie was great entertainment. Anyone who says they felt this was a total yawner, with no tension at all is too critical. This is what entertainment is about. This was a great way to spend 2 hours as far as I am concerned.
Ms Lopez is becoming a better actress with each film. But, as far as the female actresses go in this flick...the little girl who portrayed Jennifer's daughter out-acted everyone else...male or female. Two thumbs UP for this little lady!!
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Well done girl damn. shame that most of the tim you have to take care of everything yourself in cases like this and many others. Good movie
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- hjchuijbregts
- Nov 24, 2020
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I enjoyed this movie, its not perfect but so what, some parts of the film are not typical of most real life situations but this is a movie, movies are made to entertain and entertain this did. Jennifer Lopez plays Slim who thinks she is married to the perfect husband until one night he reveals his violent side, she then has to try and get her and her child away from him, a fast pace and hefty dose of tension make this an entertaining watch
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Made in the same vein as 'Sleeping with the Enemy' Enough actually manages to entertain and be its own film quite easily. Slim (Jennifer Lopez) thought she was entering domestic bliss when she married Mitch (Billy Campbell), but after the birth of their first child; Mitch reveals his darker side and Slim goes on the run with their daughter.
Now hunted by her spouse, she finally has enough, and engages Mitch in a battle of wits and physical ability.
'Enough' is good entertainment and despite some minor flaws it has plenty of action, thrills and tension.
OK it's nowhere near the best thriller around, but its worth a look 6/10
Now hunted by her spouse, she finally has enough, and engages Mitch in a battle of wits and physical ability.
'Enough' is good entertainment and despite some minor flaws it has plenty of action, thrills and tension.
OK it's nowhere near the best thriller around, but its worth a look 6/10
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I love bad movies, I grew up on them. Only a certain type of bad movie though, some of them are just boring but "Enough" has "it". Bad acting, ridiculous situations, cheesy music, characters that do things that make no sense, etc. There is one problem w/ this movie though, it bothered me the 1st time I saw it because it deals w/ a serious subject and it sends some very bad messages to women in "Slim's" situation. A very exploitive movie. You would like to think that a battered woman would be offended w/ this cheap manipulative garbage but apparently, they're aloud to have bad taste in movies just like most of the people in the world. Anyway, Jennifer Lopez gives a terrible, terrible performance and shows absolutely no range whatsoever. Billy Campbell comes off as some kind of comic book super villain and makes you wonder, how could he hide the fact that he's such a bast@rd from her for as long as he did? But who cares, there's tons of laughs in this flick. The scene where Slim receives her first beatdown is a riot from start to finish. There's just too many funny sequences in this movie to list them all. A must see for any fan of bad movies. I make sure to catch it every time it's on and I'm thinking about buying the DVD. Anaconda was a classic bad movie, add Enough to that classic list & I think I might have to check out Maid In Manhattan, Angel Eyes, Wedding Planner & Gigli and have a J Lo festival.
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Maybe the best acting movie for j. Lo.
It keeps your interest until the end, and it's good for a 2002 film with not too many flaws.
It keeps your interest until the end, and it's good for a 2002 film with not too many flaws.
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- spyridwnas
- Jul 31, 2021
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This is only the 3rd time I have viewed this film and feel that is one of JLO's finest performances! She is excellent in the way she approaches what she had to do with the psycho husband she married. Those type of men are relentless and very dangerous so she defended herself and her child. Leading male and supporting performances from Juliette Lewis and others were very good performances as well.
I don't understand the bad reviews but I'm glad she has enough good reviews to outweigh the bad ones.
I don't understand the bad reviews but I'm glad she has enough good reviews to outweigh the bad ones.
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Again, someone doesn't like J-Lo, so they trash her films. GET OFF IT! If you don't like her, don't see her friggin' movies and waste our time here with your pointless character assassination. This movie is better than "Sleeping with the Enemy," even if it is of the same genre. It's more compelling, because there's a child involved. I'm a parent, so this film really struck home. As for Campbell's character changing midstream, "without warning," - it
happens. Totally believable. I sat through this film with my gut in knots.
I loved the ending- a real crowd pleaser, no doubt. My only complaint- they tried to use Washington exteriors as a substitute for upper Michigan in the outdoor scenes. I know upper Michigan way too well to
have been fooled in the slightest- but I'm being picky. Most people won't notice. J-Lo's best performance to date. Billy Campbell is great, and I always love to see Fred Ward. 7 outta 10- You go girl.
happens. Totally believable. I sat through this film with my gut in knots.
I loved the ending- a real crowd pleaser, no doubt. My only complaint- they tried to use Washington exteriors as a substitute for upper Michigan in the outdoor scenes. I know upper Michigan way too well to
have been fooled in the slightest- but I'm being picky. Most people won't notice. J-Lo's best performance to date. Billy Campbell is great, and I always love to see Fred Ward. 7 outta 10- You go girl.
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I normally enjoy these type of plots for some reason. It's a guilty pleasure of mine I must admit. I do like the whole "boyfriend/girlfriend goes crazy on girlfriend/boyfriend" type of stories. But this was a little stupid than what I usually expect. See, the normal thing to do when a spouse is abusive and you fear for your child's life is to call the police. Not run away from your problems. If you knew that your husband was a psychopath and a stalker, would you just run? Jennifer Lopez's acting isn't bad in the film. I've never really thought she was a great actress to begin with. She is pretty convincing in the film though. The movie isn't bad, but the plot was just unrealistic.
5/10
5/10
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- Smells_Like_Cheese
- Aug 3, 2004
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This film is about a woman who finds out that her husband is not the great man he appears to be. She refuses to accept her fate as an abused housewife, and does everything she can to change her destiny.
"Enough" wastes no time beating around the bush. Right from the beginning, we already see how abusive the cheating husband is. Slim, the determined wife, fights back. She appears helpless at first, creating much sympathy for her. She lives in threat and danger every day. There is much suspense and thrill throughout the film. As the film progress, we see the satisfying finale. I hope all spouses who are battered can stand up against the terror like Slim does.
"Enough" wastes no time beating around the bush. Right from the beginning, we already see how abusive the cheating husband is. Slim, the determined wife, fights back. She appears helpless at first, creating much sympathy for her. She lives in threat and danger every day. There is much suspense and thrill throughout the film. As the film progress, we see the satisfying finale. I hope all spouses who are battered can stand up against the terror like Slim does.
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- gwnightscream
- Sep 4, 2017
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"Enough" in my opinion was worth the time. I sometimes use the expression, "It was a good ride." Our family thought that maybe we were watching a light comedy by the way it started out. But by the "house purchasing scene" we all went "Oh oh!!...this doesn't feel right!" I have watched well over 10,000 movies and I heard some real original dialogue. Yes, it was over the top and full of holes in some respects watching Slim morph into Jane Bond, but it WAS a fun ride. Out of ****, I gave it ***, my wife ***, my daughter ***, her husband **
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- David_Howard
- Jun 1, 2003
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I'll start with the tagline on the front of the DVD. "Everyone has a limit." This makes it seem like Jenny put up with abuse for a long time.... but nope, she got hit once and that was her limit. Misleading already. I have many qualms with this movie but i'll just point out a couple because it's not worth watching again to pick them all out. First, J-Lo's name is Slim.... misleading again. The second half of the movie is where it gets really frustrating. Jennifer trains for what seems to be a week or two (with a billy blanks impersonator) and is suddenly G.I. Jane. / Super Ninja / 007. She now can block cell phones, pick locks, hide in rafters / scale walls / use gadgets to find guns / beat up a large man / plant evidence to stage her master scheme. If you want a fantasy watch the passion or this one. If you want a quality suspense movie, pass on it.
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I'm not sure why some viewers compare this with "Sleeping with the Enemy", although there are some similarities, however small.
This is a a story that starts with a fairy-tale wedding, then a birth and all seems to go well. But then Slim finds out that her husband is seeing someone else. Of course, he reassures her that she's the only one that matters.
Then, when physical abuse starts, you know she's got to get out. Which she does, with some difficulty. And she starts to run from place to place, always knowing he's somehow tracking her.
The part I most enjoyed was seeing Noah Wyle play a creepy guy, so different from the roles he usually plays.
And then the end, with Slim getting martial arts training and sneaking into his home to prepare to "finish him", which she does by happenstance. I don't usually enjoy that type of violence, but was happy to see a woman stand up for herself and her child.
Enjoyed it a lot!
This is a a story that starts with a fairy-tale wedding, then a birth and all seems to go well. But then Slim finds out that her husband is seeing someone else. Of course, he reassures her that she's the only one that matters.
Then, when physical abuse starts, you know she's got to get out. Which she does, with some difficulty. And she starts to run from place to place, always knowing he's somehow tracking her.
The part I most enjoyed was seeing Noah Wyle play a creepy guy, so different from the roles he usually plays.
And then the end, with Slim getting martial arts training and sneaking into his home to prepare to "finish him", which she does by happenstance. I don't usually enjoy that type of violence, but was happy to see a woman stand up for herself and her child.
Enjoyed it a lot!
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- Andreapworth
- Nov 7, 2009
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Awful. Perhaps one of the worst movies I have seen in the last two years, "Enough" was doomed from the opening titles, mostly due to an incredibly inane, unbelievable script. One of the sure signs that a film has been poorly written is apparent when good actors (Lopez, Campbell) look like they cannot act. The dialogue is so shoddy that it lends no credibility to their characters.
Irritating sequence titles "Our Wedding," "The Conquering Hero," etc., are used to paste together badly paced events in the first half of this story, then are abandoned in the worsening second half. Major plot developments (relationships, telltale violent behavior, murders, cross-country travel) are curiously omitted.
The first sign that Lopez's hubby is wacko strangely does not happen until they have been married for five years. Upon his confession of an affair and refusal to end it, the wronged wife is immediately forgiving and accepting.. much more than most spouses would be for a forgotten anniversary. When he first assaults her, rather than showing fear and revulsion, she wipes a small (already clotted) trickle of blood from her cheek and continues a philosophical conversation with him about their relationship.
The plot, dialogue, editing and continuity are a mess. This was a true waste of talent including Lopez, Campbell, Noah Wylie (who has made a bad misstep in choosing a first major screen role) and Juliet Lewis (who once AGAIN exhibits facial expressions that convey a character with mental illness or some emotional disturbance).
Enough already.
Irritating sequence titles "Our Wedding," "The Conquering Hero," etc., are used to paste together badly paced events in the first half of this story, then are abandoned in the worsening second half. Major plot developments (relationships, telltale violent behavior, murders, cross-country travel) are curiously omitted.
The first sign that Lopez's hubby is wacko strangely does not happen until they have been married for five years. Upon his confession of an affair and refusal to end it, the wronged wife is immediately forgiving and accepting.. much more than most spouses would be for a forgotten anniversary. When he first assaults her, rather than showing fear and revulsion, she wipes a small (already clotted) trickle of blood from her cheek and continues a philosophical conversation with him about their relationship.
The plot, dialogue, editing and continuity are a mess. This was a true waste of talent including Lopez, Campbell, Noah Wylie (who has made a bad misstep in choosing a first major screen role) and Juliet Lewis (who once AGAIN exhibits facial expressions that convey a character with mental illness or some emotional disturbance).
Enough already.
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"Enough" (2002) is a drama/thriller starring Jennifer Lopez as Slim, a woman who is beat up by her husband, Mitch (Billy Campbell), when she catches wind of his infidelities. She then tries to flee from his egomaniacal clutches with her daughter and no help from the law. Will she prevail? Juliette Lewis has a peripheral role.
This is a solid drama/thriller that explores the topic of spousal abuse. It's not great, but it's certainly entertaining for what it is. Lopez confidently carries the film while Campbell is very effective as the pompous bastage. The final act takes a "movie" turn, like 1998's "A Simple Plan," which I generally don't like, but here it's actually satisfying, so why complain?
Roger Ebert lambasted the film for numerous reasons. I think Ebert's one of the greatest movie reviewers ever, but I can't fully agree with his assessment of "Enough." Roger calls it "tacky" simply because it shares plot similarities with the infamous "I Spit On Your Grave" (1978) in that a woman is brutalized and she ultimately turns the tables. Exactly WHY does he consider this tacky material? It's a great plot for a movie because so many women have been taken advantage of by arrogant men around the world throughout history and it's nice to see the abused woman go on the offensive.
Ebert complains that Mitch is "an unlikely caricature of hard-breathing sadistic testosterone that he cannot possibly be a real human being." Really? I've met these kinds of guys. One held a gun to my sister's head and, on another occasion, blew up her car! Roger criticizes that "he has no existence beyond the stereotyped Evil Rich White Male." But the very reason stereotypes exist is because there's SOME truth to them. Ebert also complains that Mitch's change is too sudden and unexpected for both the viewer and Slim because it doesn't happen till 3-4 years into the marriage, but this presumes that a movie is obligated to share every detail of its characters with the audience. The answers are in between the lines: Sometime after the honeymoon phase wore-off Mitch acquires a mistress because he arrogantly feels he deserves one and f*** what his wife thinks. Besides, he's the bread-winner, he thinks, what say does she have? Up to this point Slim was obviously blinded by love and when she discovers the awful truth she's in shock.
Roger also denounces the film for sometimes being melodramatic and over-the-top. Like "Fatal Attraction" wasn't? Even the aforementioned "A Simple Plan," which Ebert praised, has it's utterly contrived "yeah, right" moments.
While Ebert's objection to the movie's simplistic moral color-coding (evil white guy contrasted by the good black trainer and lawyer) is somewhat legitimate, it isn't entirely. After all, apart from Mitch and his hired heavies, all the white dudes in the film are respectable citizens. Roger laments that we won't see a movie where the evil husband is black and the self-defense instructor is white in our lifetimes. While this may be technically true, what about 2001's "Training Day" where the ultra-corrupt cop is black (Denzel Washington) and the noble rookie is white (Ethan Hawke)? What about the righteous white instructor in 2006's "Peaceful Warrior"? These are just two examples off the top of my head.
Lastly, Roger refers to "Enough" as a "cartoon of a movie." While it's true that "Enough" contains SOME over-the-top elements it has the same general tone as "A Simple Plan," not that it's as good. If you want to see a true "cartoon of a movie," see 2005's "King Kong," which took the classic adventure movie and morphed it into a veritable Road Runner cartoon. Ebert gave "King Kong" an unbelievable perfect rating. You might argue that "King Kong" is an adventure movie with a colossal gorilla, but it was also a drama/thriller that takes place in the "real" world, a world not far removed from the one presented in "Enough."
Disregarding profits, the main purpose of a movie is to entertain; the secondary purpose is to convey a message, overtly or covertly. While not great or deep, "Enough" delivers the goods on both counts. Ebert missed this in his review.
The film runs 115 minutes and was shot in California and Washington (state).
GRADE: B
This is a solid drama/thriller that explores the topic of spousal abuse. It's not great, but it's certainly entertaining for what it is. Lopez confidently carries the film while Campbell is very effective as the pompous bastage. The final act takes a "movie" turn, like 1998's "A Simple Plan," which I generally don't like, but here it's actually satisfying, so why complain?
Roger Ebert lambasted the film for numerous reasons. I think Ebert's one of the greatest movie reviewers ever, but I can't fully agree with his assessment of "Enough." Roger calls it "tacky" simply because it shares plot similarities with the infamous "I Spit On Your Grave" (1978) in that a woman is brutalized and she ultimately turns the tables. Exactly WHY does he consider this tacky material? It's a great plot for a movie because so many women have been taken advantage of by arrogant men around the world throughout history and it's nice to see the abused woman go on the offensive.
Ebert complains that Mitch is "an unlikely caricature of hard-breathing sadistic testosterone that he cannot possibly be a real human being." Really? I've met these kinds of guys. One held a gun to my sister's head and, on another occasion, blew up her car! Roger criticizes that "he has no existence beyond the stereotyped Evil Rich White Male." But the very reason stereotypes exist is because there's SOME truth to them. Ebert also complains that Mitch's change is too sudden and unexpected for both the viewer and Slim because it doesn't happen till 3-4 years into the marriage, but this presumes that a movie is obligated to share every detail of its characters with the audience. The answers are in between the lines: Sometime after the honeymoon phase wore-off Mitch acquires a mistress because he arrogantly feels he deserves one and f*** what his wife thinks. Besides, he's the bread-winner, he thinks, what say does she have? Up to this point Slim was obviously blinded by love and when she discovers the awful truth she's in shock.
Roger also denounces the film for sometimes being melodramatic and over-the-top. Like "Fatal Attraction" wasn't? Even the aforementioned "A Simple Plan," which Ebert praised, has it's utterly contrived "yeah, right" moments.
While Ebert's objection to the movie's simplistic moral color-coding (evil white guy contrasted by the good black trainer and lawyer) is somewhat legitimate, it isn't entirely. After all, apart from Mitch and his hired heavies, all the white dudes in the film are respectable citizens. Roger laments that we won't see a movie where the evil husband is black and the self-defense instructor is white in our lifetimes. While this may be technically true, what about 2001's "Training Day" where the ultra-corrupt cop is black (Denzel Washington) and the noble rookie is white (Ethan Hawke)? What about the righteous white instructor in 2006's "Peaceful Warrior"? These are just two examples off the top of my head.
Lastly, Roger refers to "Enough" as a "cartoon of a movie." While it's true that "Enough" contains SOME over-the-top elements it has the same general tone as "A Simple Plan," not that it's as good. If you want to see a true "cartoon of a movie," see 2005's "King Kong," which took the classic adventure movie and morphed it into a veritable Road Runner cartoon. Ebert gave "King Kong" an unbelievable perfect rating. You might argue that "King Kong" is an adventure movie with a colossal gorilla, but it was also a drama/thriller that takes place in the "real" world, a world not far removed from the one presented in "Enough."
Disregarding profits, the main purpose of a movie is to entertain; the secondary purpose is to convey a message, overtly or covertly. While not great or deep, "Enough" delivers the goods on both counts. Ebert missed this in his review.
The film runs 115 minutes and was shot in California and Washington (state).
GRADE: B
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I love good movies. Enough was not only a bad movie, but it was a schlocky attempt to manipulate audiences. Of course every decent human being is against spousal-domestic abuse. However, this movie did not invest 'enough' intelligent attention to story and script development. It would have made decent Lifetime viewing; but using J-Lo to bait movie goers into paying $8-10! Insulting! The studio had the nerve to 'save' this film for a prime summer release, because they thought they had a clear winner. That just shows how much respect they have for movie goers. Spousal abuse is very serious stuff. I hate to see serious social problems treated in such an exploitive manner. I rate this movie generously with a 2/10.
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- smarthomewk
- Jun 3, 2002
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Why has this got such bad ratings? Massively underrated movie, tense all the way through and really enjoyable.
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- carlhannan-18311
- Apr 23, 2020
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I appreciate a good "bad movie". If a movie is bad enough, it can be fun to watch. This movie, however, is SO bad that you can't even enjoy it's awfulness. I mean seriously. I'm *very* patient for bad movies, in many cases i love them, but this may very well be the absolute worst movie I've ever seen, and not just because of the terrible supporting actors.
In all sincerity, pornography typically has better writing and directing than this, and the plot makes more sense. The real paradox about this film; despite being disorganized and random, it somehow manages to be totally predictable.
For those who haven't seen it, the basic plot is that a WONDERFUL guy marries j-lo and gives her everything she wants. 5 years into the marriage, his pager goes off, and she looks at the number instantly comes to the conclusion that he's cheating on her. She decides to leave in the middle of the night while he's asleep in the room, rather than during the hours and hours he's away during the daytime. So he decides to kick j-lo in the face a bunch of times, which doesn't leave a scratch on her. The rest of the movie is basically him pursuing her.
So she runs away, and he chases after her, trying VERY visibly and publicly to kill her. By "publicly" i mean doing things like... knocking down total strangers to run up to a bus she's on, then pounding on the side of the bus while screaming something to the effect of "I AM GOING TO KILL YOU AS SOON AS I CATCH YOU BITCH"... or kicking in hotel room doors... or sending goons to vandalize the place she's living at, who delight us by delivering gripping and thrilling lines like "Hey Bitch, do you know what it feels like to die because you are so stupid?". In fact, i think the word "bitch" occurs once for every 3 spoken lines.
The characters fail to achieve even a meager 2 dimensions; even cartoon villains are more conflicted than these characters. The "bad guys" (i.e. men) are 100% evil and unremorseful, and the "good guys" (i.e. girls) are perfect and pure in their motivations.
If you enjoyed this movie, be sure to also catch Troll 2 and Panic Room and Road Rage. I enjoy terrible movies, but this was just above and beyond terrible.
In all sincerity, pornography typically has better writing and directing than this, and the plot makes more sense. The real paradox about this film; despite being disorganized and random, it somehow manages to be totally predictable.
For those who haven't seen it, the basic plot is that a WONDERFUL guy marries j-lo and gives her everything she wants. 5 years into the marriage, his pager goes off, and she looks at the number instantly comes to the conclusion that he's cheating on her. She decides to leave in the middle of the night while he's asleep in the room, rather than during the hours and hours he's away during the daytime. So he decides to kick j-lo in the face a bunch of times, which doesn't leave a scratch on her. The rest of the movie is basically him pursuing her.
So she runs away, and he chases after her, trying VERY visibly and publicly to kill her. By "publicly" i mean doing things like... knocking down total strangers to run up to a bus she's on, then pounding on the side of the bus while screaming something to the effect of "I AM GOING TO KILL YOU AS SOON AS I CATCH YOU BITCH"... or kicking in hotel room doors... or sending goons to vandalize the place she's living at, who delight us by delivering gripping and thrilling lines like "Hey Bitch, do you know what it feels like to die because you are so stupid?". In fact, i think the word "bitch" occurs once for every 3 spoken lines.
The characters fail to achieve even a meager 2 dimensions; even cartoon villains are more conflicted than these characters. The "bad guys" (i.e. men) are 100% evil and unremorseful, and the "good guys" (i.e. girls) are perfect and pure in their motivations.
If you enjoyed this movie, be sure to also catch Troll 2 and Panic Room and Road Rage. I enjoy terrible movies, but this was just above and beyond terrible.
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