In life, I'm not theatrical. No, when you play someone as unsympathetic as Lynda [in "The Archers"], who has the most loathed character, it's a sort of catharsis. People say: "But surely you must be like that too, deep down." But no. It's a moral victory, playing her - a strange triumph... I can't bear the luvvie stuff, though I can do it with my peers when I have to. I try to be real.