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[[User:Lycaon|Lycaon]] 20:35, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

== Adding subgenera and other levels ==

Hi there, 

A couple of things.

One: We have a different template for subgenera for plants. It is Template:Subgplant.

Two: If you are going to add levels, you need to fill them in. E.g. in [[Deschampsia]] you should create the page for the subgenus and the species would appear there.

Thanks. --[[User:Open2universe |Open2universe]] | [[User talk:Open2universe |Talk]] 14:31, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

==Subgenera==
Why don't you make subgenera? It is easy to make them {{subgplant|C|haetacanthus|Acanthaceae}}. Then the species {{subspplant|C|haetacanthus|A|canthaceae|burchellii}}. If you fill them with authors then it is ''[[Chaetacantus (Acanthaceae)]]'' and ''[[Chaetacantus (Acanthacea) burchellii]]''. If there are questions you can ask me.

Regards,

[[User:PeterR|PeterR]] 18:22, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

==Chaetacanthus==
By Chaetacanthus (Acanthaceae). Normaly means (Acanthaceae) a subgenus from Chaetacanthus. But maybe here it have an other function?

Regards,

[[User:PeterR|PeterR]] 08:25, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

==Chaetacanthus==
You did it correct. But if you make a Taxonavigation then the second word have to end with <br />, because otherwise the third word comes not under the second. 

{{Tld|Subfamilia}}
Tribus: ''[[Tribus]]'' <br />
Genera: {{g|Genus1}} {{glast|Genus2}}

Regards,

[[User:PeterR|PeterR]] 09:49, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

==Species==
Why don't you fill the species?

Regards,

[[User:PeterR|PeterR]] 11:10, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

== Data for Plant Species ==

== Plant species data ==

Hello, <br />
I've noticed you're creating many plant pages. While it is very nice, why don't you use a more proper source like [http://www.ipni.org/ipni/plantnamesearchpage.do this one]? Just type in the genus name and select "search", and you shall get a very nice list including '''proper references'''. You'll get a line like: 

<big>Loranthaceae Arthraxon amplexifolium Tiegh. -- Bull. Soc. Bot. France 42: 353. 1895 (IK)</big> 

This line includes the original publication where the author defined the particular species, including numbers of issue and page (the publication name is abbreviated). from this data you can construct the following scientific references:

<pre><nowiki>
== Name ==
''Arthraxon amplexifolium'' [[Tiegh.]]

== References ==
* {{aut|Phillippe Édouard Léon van Tieghem}}, 1895: ''Bull. Soc. Bot. France'' '''42''': 353.
* {{aut|The International Plant Names Index}} [http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idPlantNameSearch.do?id=547951-1&back_page=%2Fipni%2FeditAdvPlantNameSearch.do%3Ffind_infragenus%3D%26find_isAPNIRecord%3Dtrue%26find_geoUnit%3D%26find_includePublicationAuthors%3Dtrue%26find_addedSince%3D%26find_family%3D%26find_genus%3DArthraxon%26find_sortByFamily%3Dtrue%26find_isGCIRecord%3Dtrue%26find_infrafamily%3D%26find_rankToReturn%3Dall%26find_publicationTitle%3D%26find_authorAbbrev%3D%26find_infraspecies%3D%26find_includeBasionymAuthors%3Dtrue%26find_modifiedSince%3D%26find_isIKRecord%3Dtrue%26find_species%3D%26output_format%3Dnormal Arthraxon amplexifolium].
</nowiki> </pre>
It's a little bit more work, but the result looks much more professional! 

<small>[[User:Mariusm|Mariusm]] 06:56, 12 August 2008 (UTC)</small>

:In addition to what you have (correctly) written, do this: 

:# Press on "Schwantes" at the ''Carruanthus'' page at ipni.org. You get: "Schwantes, Martin Heinrich Gustav"
:# Press on the "J.Bot" you get: "Journal of Botany, British and Foreign. London"
:# Now you can compose the following reference for the [[Carruanthus]]:
::<nowiki>  * {{aut|Schwantes, Martin Heinrich Gustav}}, 1928: ''Journal of Botany, British and Foreign. London'', '''66''': 325</nowiki>

:I hope you understand me now...
:<small>[[User:Mariusm|Mariusm]] 12:15, 12 August 2008 (UTC)</small>

:: Yes, for [[Chasmatophyllum]] you made a very good reference, just instead of the "" on the publication name, write a double ' (put the text in ''italics form''). <big><big>Keep on with your good work!</big></big>
::<small>[[User:Mariusm|Mariusm]] 04:36, 13 August 2008 (UTC)</small>

== Familia [[Themidaceae]] ==

The familia [[Themidaceae]] isn't generally recognized. Look [http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/fulltext/118872219/HTMLSTART?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0 here] for the official classification of '''Angiosperms'''. This familia doesn't appear there. (It is a segregation from the familia [[Asparagaceae]]). <small>[[User:Mariusm|Mariusm]] 06:54, 19 August 2008 (UTC)</small>

== Two doubts -- Reply ==

Hello,

# The lily family [[Liliaceae]] used to be historically a paraphyletic group that included a great number of genera now transfered to other familiae. The modern taxonomy separated [[Liliaceae]] into the present groups, so the '''correct''' familia for [[Amaryllis]] is [[Amaryllidaceae]] and not [[Liliaceae]]! We sould rely on  Angiosperm Phylogeny Group's APG II classification system, which assigns [[Amaryllis]] to [[Amaryllidaceae]].
# The disambiguation page [[Amaryllis]] is confusing as it is. The line '''Amaryllis (Liliopsida : Liliaceae)''' should better be deleted. 
# You may include a note in the discussion page of [[Amaryllis]] saying: "Formerly included in the [[Liliaceae]] familia"

<small>[[User:Mariusm|Mariusm]] 08:48, 3 September 2008 (UTC)</small>

== About [[Abaphus]] ==

Hello,

The genera names [[Abapus]] and [[Abaphus]] are obsolete!<br />
[[Abapus]] is a synonym of ''[[Gethyllis]]'' [[L.]]<br />
[[Abaphus]] is an invalid replacement name for [[Abapus]].

For a list of valid names and synonyms of the [[Amaryllidaceae]] please look [http://www.amaryllidaceae.org/alphabetique.htm here]

<small>[[User:Mariusm|Mariusm]] 10:12, 4 September 2008 (UTC)</small>

:The problem with the site http://data.gbif.org is they list also all the <big>synonyms!</big> It it a good source for references, '''but a confusing one for a list of genera or species'''. For the Amaryllidaceae the best site I think is http://www.amaryllidaceae.org . (In french). Just click on a genus and in the section "Espèces" you'll see all the species and authors for the genus.

: <small>[[User:Mariusm|Mariusm]] 16:14, 4 September 2008 (UTC)</small>

== Do not use http://www.ipni.org/ for species and genera lists !!!!! ==

Hello,

I Looked again at http://www.ipni.org/ and noticed that they list there all the synonyms. You can see it is a synonym in the section '''Original Data: Notes: = ...''' . So please don't use http://www.ipni.org/ as a source for species and genera names! <big>Use it only for references !</big>

For example: They list the species ''Amaryllis africana'', but it is just a synonym of ''Lycoris aurea''. They write '''Notes: = Lycoris aurea'''. So please be very careful!!!

<small>[[User:Mariusm|Mariusm]] 06:42, 5 September 2008 (UTC)</small>

: <big><big>No</big></big>, please don't do it this way! You have to write the genera synonyms not at the familia page, but at the respective genus page.<br />
: For exaple: [[Acrocorion]] is a synonym of [[Galanthus]], so in the [[Galanthus]] page write the synonym of [[Acrocorion]], and don't forget to make a REDIRECT in the [[Acrocorion]] page to the [[Galanthus]] page like this: <nowiki> #REDIRECT [[Galanthus]]</nowiki> <br />
: <small>[[User:Mariusm|Mariusm]] 08:07, 5 September 2008 (UTC)</small>

== RE:About Amaryllis and Crinum aquaticum ==

It's interesting that there indeed was a big dispute among botanists between the names ''Hippeastrum equestre'' and ''Amaryllis belladonna'' (look [http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/1978/Amaryllis/tjaden.htm here] for the history of it. Now tha accepted name is ''Amaryllis belladonna''. The site http://www.ipni.org/ isn't allways reliable about which is the real synonym, so don't rely on it blindly.

About ''Crinum aquaticum'' it indeed has two confusing records at http://www.ipni.org/ but "Crinum aquaticum Herb." has no reference, so I suppose the correct redirect would be to ''Crinum campanulatum''...

The disambiguation pages are '''not intended''' for synonyms, so [[Crinum floridum|this]] isn't the right solution! Just choose one of them (the one with the most recent date).

Botany isn't an easy science ... <small>[[User:Mariusm|Mariusm]] 14:00, 6 September 2008 (UTC)</small>

: ''[[Amaryllis]]'' should be only 2 species: ''[[Amaryllis belladonna]]'' and ''[[Amaryllis paradisicola]]''. All the rest are synonyms, and must be deleted from the [[Amaryllis]] page. <small>[[User:Mariusm|Mariusm]] 05:21, 7 September 2008 (UTC)</small>

== RE:Cytisus scoparius x dallimorei ==

* The correct taxonomic name must be ''[[Cytisus x dallimorei]]'' with the author being [[Rolfe]] and not ''[[Cytisus scoparius x dallimorei]]'', so please change accordingly the page name & hybrid name.
* At the genus page you have to write: 
** Species: ''Cytisus'' - ''multiflorus'' - ''striatus'' ....
** Hybrids: ''Cytisus x dallimorei'' - ''Cytisus x praecox'' - ''Cytisus x kewensis'' .....
* No need for species name in the hybrid page.
* The correct name is "Hybrid" and not "Hibryd".
* Write the cultivers as: Cultivers: ''Lena'' - ''Lilac Time'' - ''Minstead (Munstead)'' - ''William Dallimore''

<small>[[User:Mariusm|Mariusm]] 11:30, 9 September 2008 (UTC)</small>

== RE:Boophone ==

The familia [[Alliaceae]] can be treated in two ways, both legal: ''sensu lato'', where in includes the genera in [[Agapanthaceae]] and [[Amaryllidaceae]] and ''sensu stricto''. Both ways are OK, but the taxonomists' majority prefer the ''sensu stricto''. Because genetically these familiae are sufficiently different to keep them apart, I suggest [[Amaryllidaceae]] would be the better choise. <small>[[User:Mariusm|Mariusm]] 15:39, 19 September 2008 (UTC)</small>
== Narcissus ==
Estimado Digigalos. Mi nombre es Alfredo Barra y llevo unos cuantos años trabajando en la taxonomía del género Narcissus. Estoy sorprendido por los cambios nomenclaturales que has hecho en alguna de las fotos que he subido a Commons. También por el tratamiento que das a las especies. No entiendo lo de N. hispanicus; las pesquisas que yo hice me llevaron a la conclusión de que la planta de Gouan era la forma concolor de N. bicolor. Si has hecho alguna averiguación que lo contradiga, me gustaría conocerla. Bueno, nada más de momento. No sé si te llegará mi mensaje, porque te mandé otro hace una hora y un administrador me lo borró, no sé porqué. Un saludo. --[[User:Cillas|Cillas]] 09:08, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Hola Digigalos. A propósito de N. x litigiosus, he revisado la publicación original y no hay razones para pensar que sea una especie híbrida, al menos Amo no la describe como tal. El INPI lo cita así, pero ya les he mandado un correo para que lo rectifiquen; ellos mismos afirman que no han visto el protólogo. Lo que no consigo es quitar el símbolo x en el nombre de la página. ¿Te importaría hacerlo tú si sabes cómo? Gracias y un saludo.--[[User:Cillas|Cillas]] 09:06, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

==Request for comment==
There is presently a [[http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikispecies:Village_Pump#extinct_symbols discussion] on the use of daggers to denote extinct taxa.  This will affect a large portion of the pages in wikispecies as the project grows so if possible please read the contributions so far and comment.  Thanks --[[User:Kevmin|Kevmin]] 06:55, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

==Tribus==
Just for the record, please use the spelling ''tribus'' in your templates, not ''tribu''. ''Tribus'' is the nominative singular form. [[http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Taxonavigation_section#Templates for taxonavigation]]  [[User:Epibase|Epibase]] 12:02, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

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