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From: Joshua D. D. <jd...@co...> - 2012-05-14 19:32:40
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Hello, I have been lurking here for a little while and have been following the project itself since March of 2011. With the imminent release of 1.0 I would like to offer some advocacy suggestions for wider coverage. 1. Major announcements should never go out on a weekend. Most people will never see them. Instead, focus major announcements to happen during the week on Tue/Wed/Thu. Monday is useless too many people are busy doing the catchup from the week before. Friday is useless because people are focused on getting out of work. 2. If possible, have a sponsoring company or individual run a PRWeb for the 1.0 announcement. 3. Michael's blog is great but there should be a project wide blog so the project does not appear to be a one person project. 4. Send English announcements on EST time. This will garner you the most eyeballs between the States and Europe. 5. I don't know if this is already done, but the Asian community probably has their own channels for communication. 6. With 1.0, you will want to get some quotes from some industry players that are not a major supporter. Instead focus on people from the other consulting companies and even better, a real user if possible. Anyway, I hope that is helpful and I look forward to helping with this project. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake -- Command Prompt, Inc. - http://www.commandprompt.com/ PostgreSQL Support, Training, Professional Services and Development The PostgreSQL Conference - http://www.postgresqlconference.org/ @cmdpromptinc - @postgresconf - 509-416-6579 |
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From: Michael P. <mic...@gm...> - 2012-05-14 19:47:51
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On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Joshua D. Drake <jd...@co...>wrote: > > Hello, > > I have been lurking here for a little while and have been following the > project itself since March of 2011. With the imminent release of 1.0 I > would like to offer some advocacy suggestions for wider coverage. > > 1. Major announcements should never go out on a weekend. Most people > will never see them. Instead, focus major announcements to happen during > the week on Tue/Wed/Thu. Monday is useless too many people are busy > doing the catchup from the week before. Friday is useless because people > are focused on getting out of work. > Yes, releasing beta2 on Sunday was not the best move ever. Wanted to do that before but I got my hands full, and I am kind of the guy doing it. 2. If possible, have a sponsoring company or individual run a PRWeb for > the 1.0 announcement. Thanks for the advice. I am sure it will be done. > 3. Michael's blog is great but there should be a project wide blog so > the project does not appear to be a one person project. > This would be great. I don't have time to take care of that myself these days. But I could write posts on it. > 4. Send English announcements on EST time. This will garner you the most > eyeballs between the States and Europe. > Based in Japan... This doesn't help... > 5. I don't know if this is already done, but the Asian community > probably has their own channels for communication. > Not that much. Only the ML are in use in English language. 6. With 1.0, you will want to get some quotes from some industry players > that are not a major supporter. Instead focus on people from the other > consulting companies and even better, a real user if possible. > This is a great idea. Based on your ideas, I would say that a blog would not be enough to serve the purpose of the project, something more global is needed with, and the blog articles, let's say about development, would only be a section of it. It could also contain links to redirect to the tarballs downloadable on SourceForge, and package mirrors. Quotes could also be a part of it. > Anyway, I hope that is helpful and I look forward to helping with this > project. > Thanks! Any piece of advice is always appreciated. -- Michael Paquier http://michael.otacoo.com |
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From: Joshua D. D. <jd...@co...> - 2012-05-14 20:06:41
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On 05/14/2012 12:47 PM, Michael Paquier wrote: > > 3. Michael's blog is great but there should be a project wide blog so > the project does not appear to be a one person project. > > This would be great. I don't have time to take care of that myself these > days. > But I could write posts on it. CMD would be willing to help on this but I would need to know some requirements from the project. > > 4. Send English announcements on EST time. This will garner you the most > eyeballs between the States and Europe. > > Based in Japan... This doesn't help... Perhaps it would be helpful if I knew the advocacy goals of the project? > 6. With 1.0, you will want to get some quotes from some industry players > that are not a major supporter. Instead focus on people from the other > consulting companies and even better, a real user if possible. > > This is a great idea. > > Based on your ideas, I would say that a blog would not be enough to > serve the purpose of the project, something more global is needed with, > and the blog articles, let's say about development, would only be a > section of it. > It could also contain links to redirect to the tarballs downloadable on > SourceForge, and package mirrors. Quotes could also be a part of it. Well that sounds like just a more complete website in general running on something like Joomla or Drupal. Thoughts? Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake -- Command Prompt, Inc. - http://www.commandprompt.com/ PostgreSQL Support, Training, Professional Services and Development The PostgreSQL Conference - http://www.postgresqlconference.org/ @cmdpromptinc - @postgresconf - 509-416-6579 |
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From: Chris A. <ro...@gm...> - 2012-05-14 22:58:03
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On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:06 AM, Joshua D. Drake <jd...@co...> wrote: > Well that sounds like just a more complete website in general running on > something like Joomla or Drupal. Thoughts? Hi, regular lurker on the list here. I've been burnt several times by Joomla, mainly on security issues. My suspicion is that maintaining a Joomla web site is a hefty job, and that most people get slack (I currently host a community web site's Joomla on my server, but am not the site admin - it's been plagued by security problems, including attackers abusing it for sending spam and such). Obviously it'd be rather cool to get a system that's backed by a Postgres database, and run it on XC. It always looks good to demonstrably eat your own dogfood, even if the web site could run quite happily on a single-computer Postgres! The system I'm developing at work is currently running on vanilla Postgres, but as we get closer to a beta launch, I'm probably going to be asked to look into forking-for-reliability again. My first port of call would be articles on the web site about how to migrate, how to guarantee reliability even in the face of N node failures, etc. That's the sort of thing I'd recommend / hope for from the site. Chris Angelico |
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From: Joshua D. D. <jd...@co...> - 2012-05-15 01:08:26
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On 05/14/2012 03:57 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > Obviously it'd be rather cool to get a system that's backed by a > Postgres database, and run it on XC. It always looks good to > demonstrably eat your own dogfood, even if the web site could run > quite happily on a single-computer Postgres! Well Joomla and Drupal both support PostgreSQL natively. The other option would be DjangoCMS. Any massive CMS as far as I can tell will have some problems if it is unmaintained. Luckily, if the community wanted, CMD would be willing to actually put resources behind maintaining it. Oh, and any of the three listed above we could run on a very small postgres-xc cluster just so we are eating our own dog food. jD -- Command Prompt, Inc. - http://www.commandprompt.com/ PostgreSQL Support, Training, Professional Services and Development The PostgreSQL Conference - http://www.postgresqlconference.org/ @cmdpromptinc - @postgresconf - 509-416-6579 |
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From: Michael P. <mic...@gm...> - 2012-05-15 03:15:46
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On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Joshua D. Drake <jd...@co...>wrote: > > On 05/14/2012 03:57 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > > > Obviously it'd be rather cool to get a system that's backed by a > > Postgres database, and run it on XC. It always looks good to > > demonstrably eat your own dogfood, even if the web site could run > > quite happily on a single-computer Postgres! > > Well Joomla and Drupal both support PostgreSQL natively. The other > option would be DjangoCMS. > > Any massive CMS as far as I can tell will have some problems if it is > unmaintained. Luckily, if the community wanted, CMD would be willing to > actually put resources behind maintaining it. > > Oh, and any of the three listed above we could run on a very small > postgres-xc cluster just so we are eating our own dog food. > I have some experience in Drupal myself. But before dropping into a solution or another, it is necessary to define what could be necessary for such a website. Here are some ideas/guidelines: - Publication of articles - Redirection to packages and tarballs located on SourceForge - Quotes about users using XC - Sponsors - An "About" page - Something running on postgres-xc.org - Others... The current project website is located at http://postgres-xc.sourceforge.neton SourceForce and it is not possible to use a DB application in the background there. -- Michael Paquier http://michael.otacoo.com |
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From: Abbas B. <abb...@te...> - 2012-05-15 03:54:58
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On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Michael Paquier <mic...@gm...>wrote: > > > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Joshua D. Drake <jd...@co...>wrote: > >> >> On 05/14/2012 03:57 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >> > Obviously it'd be rather cool to get a system that's backed by a >> > Postgres database, and run it on XC. It always looks good to >> > demonstrably eat your own dogfood, even if the web site could run >> > quite happily on a single-computer Postgres! >> >> Well Joomla and Drupal both support PostgreSQL natively. The other >> option would be DjangoCMS. >> >> Any massive CMS as far as I can tell will have some problems if it is >> unmaintained. Luckily, if the community wanted, CMD would be willing to >> actually put resources behind maintaining it. >> >> Oh, and any of the three listed above we could run on a very small >> postgres-xc cluster just so we are eating our own dog food. >> > I have some experience in Drupal myself. > But before dropping into a solution or another, it is necessary to define > what could be necessary for such a website. > Here are some ideas/guidelines: > - Publication of articles > - Redirection to packages and tarballs located on SourceForge > - Quotes about users using XC > - Sponsors > - An "About" page > - Something running on postgres-xc.org > - Others... > - FAQ - Sample database, sample programs, sample hardware/network setup - Tutorials both on how to setup and on some code insight - Examples of some scenarios where XC fits in e.g. A school with multiple branches, A hospital with multiple sites etc. - Comparison with similar products - Performance benchmarks - Steps required to move from existing cluster to XC. > > The current project website is located at > http://postgres-xc.sourceforge.net on SourceForce and it is not possible > to use a DB application in the background there. > -- > Michael Paquier > http://michael.otacoo.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Postgres-xc-general mailing list > Pos...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/postgres-xc-general > > |
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From: Koichi S. <koi...@gm...> - 2012-05-15 04:06:48
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2012/5/14 Abbas Butt <abb...@te...>: > > > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Michael Paquier <mic...@gm...> > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Joshua D. Drake <jd...@co...> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 05/14/2012 03:57 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> >>> > Obviously it'd be rather cool to get a system that's backed by a >>> > Postgres database, and run it on XC. It always looks good to >>> > demonstrably eat your own dogfood, even if the web site could run >>> > quite happily on a single-computer Postgres! >>> >>> Well Joomla and Drupal both support PostgreSQL natively. The other >>> option would be DjangoCMS. >>> >>> Any massive CMS as far as I can tell will have some problems if it is >>> unmaintained. Luckily, if the community wanted, CMD would be willing to >>> actually put resources behind maintaining it. >>> >>> Oh, and any of the three listed above we could run on a very small >>> postgres-xc cluster just so we are eating our own dog food. >> >> I have some experience in Drupal myself. >> But before dropping into a solution or another, it is necessary to define >> what could be necessary for such a website. >> Here are some ideas/guidelines: >> - Publication of articles >> - Redirection to packages and tarballs located on SourceForge >> - Quotes about users using XC >> - Sponsors >> - An "About" page >> - Something running on postgres-xc.org >> - Others... Year, may need daily build and regression test result, as well as performance benchmarks. Also, I'd like to have "TIPS" (included in Q&A?) --- Koichi Suzuki > > > - FAQ > - Sample database, sample programs, sample hardware/network setup > - Tutorials both on how to setup and on some code insight > - Examples of some scenarios where XC fits in e.g. A school with multiple > branches, A hospital with multiple sites etc. > - Comparison with similar products > - Performance benchmarks > - Steps required to move from existing cluster to XC. > >> >> >> The current project website is located at >> http://postgres-xc.sourceforge.net on SourceForce and it is not possible to >> use a DB application in the background there. >> -- >> Michael Paquier >> http://michael.otacoo.com >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Postgres-xc-general mailing list >> Pos...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/postgres-xc-general >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Postgres-xc-general mailing list > Pos...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/postgres-xc-general > |
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From: Chris A. <ro...@gm...> - 2012-05-15 06:58:24
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On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Abbas Butt <abb...@te...> wrote: > Examples of some scenarios where XC fits in e.g. A school with multiple > branches, A hospital with multiple sites etc. And a related "Why should I use XC rather than [...]" for various options including Postgres synchronous replication, MySQL clusterdb, etc. ChrisA |
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From: Koichi S. <koi...@gm...> - 2012-05-15 12:17:08
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Year, we really need these. As to HA feature, Postgres synchronous replication is a part of XC. Maybe we need some words about Hot Standby. We have very limited information on MySQL clusterdb though. ---------- Koichi Suzuki 2012/5/15 Chris Angelico <ro...@gm...>: > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Abbas Butt <abb...@te...> wrote: >> Examples of some scenarios where XC fits in e.g. A school with multiple >> branches, A hospital with multiple sites etc. > > And a related "Why should I use XC rather than [...]" for various > options including Postgres synchronous replication, MySQL clusterdb, > etc. > > ChrisA > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Postgres-xc-general mailing list > Pos...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/postgres-xc-general |
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From: Joshua D. D. <jd...@co...> - 2012-05-15 17:36:07
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On 05/14/2012 08:15 PM, Michael Paquier wrote: > I have some experience in Drupal myself. I have a lot of experience with Drupal, PostgreSQLConference.org runs on top of it. > But before dropping into a solution or another, it is necessary to > define what could be necessary for such a website. > Here are some ideas/guidelines: > - Publication of articles Articles, or blogs? Drupal can do both, but if we make articles blogs they are easily aggregated. > - Redirection to packages and tarballs located on SourceForge Well that is just links. > - Quotes about users using XC A page. > - Sponsors We could have a sponsor block on the side of the page or just a sponsors page. > - An "About" page And definitely a menu heading for this. > - Something running on postgres-xc.org <http://postgres-xc.org> Right now this just redirects to sourceforge. I am sure Devrim would point it anywhere the community wants it to go. > - Others... > > The current project website is located at > http://postgres-xc.sourceforge.net on SourceForce and it is not possible > to use a DB application in the background there. Right, so at a minimum we need a VM. We can do that. jD -- Command Prompt, Inc. - http://www.commandprompt.com/ PostgreSQL Support, Training, Professional Services and Development The PostgreSQL Conference - http://www.postgresqlconference.org/ @cmdpromptinc - @postgresconf - 509-416-6579 |
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From: Joshua D. D. <jd...@co...> - 2012-05-27 04:09:26
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Hello, Following up on this, it appears that Joomla support Postgres in the idea that Postgres is available through their abstraction layer. However, the driver doesn't appear to exist (at least in completed form). Therefore I suggest Drupal or DjangoCMS. Thoughts? Sincerely, jD |
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From: Michael P. <mic...@gm...> - 2012-05-27 06:47:04
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On 2012/05/27, at 13:09, "Joshua D. Drake" <jd...@co...> wrote: > > Hello, > > Following up on this, it appears that Joomla support Postgres in the idea that Postgres is available through their abstraction layer. However, the driver doesn't appear to exist (at least in completed form). Therefore I suggest Drupal or DjangoCMS. > > Thoughts? Both would serve the same purpose and both look to have the same level of support with Postgres. Drupal looks to have however a stronger community. > Regards, Michael |
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From: Joshua D. D. <jd...@co...> - 2012-05-30 20:10:56
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Hello, I am about to setup a VM for a test Drupal instance to get a test site up. I was wondering if there were folks in the community that would like to help provide content so that the core team can determine if it is a direction they would like to go? Sincerely, jD |
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From: Joshua D. D. <jd...@co...> - 2012-05-31 17:30:05
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On 05/30/2012 01:10 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > Hello, > > I am about to setup a VM for a test Drupal instance to get a test site > up. I was wondering if there were folks in the community that would like > to help provide content so that the core team can determine if it is a > direction they would like to go? Alrighty then... looks like I have a weekend project. Sincerely, jD https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/postgres-xc-general -- Command Prompt, Inc. - http://www.commandprompt.com/ PostgreSQL Support, Training, Professional Services and Development The PostgreSQL Conference - http://www.postgresqlconference.org/ @cmdpromptinc - @postgresconf - 509-416-6579 |
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From: Joshua D. D. <jd...@co...> - 2012-06-01 19:26:51
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Hello, Alright so this is what I have going on right now. I have Drupal 7 up running on PostgreSQL 9.1 @ xc.commandprompt.com . I am currently trying to figure out a logical structure for menu items vs content. If anyone wants to start a discussion on that problem it would be a great help so I am not throwing work at a dart board that is going to be cleared at the end of the day. Sincerely, jD -- Command Prompt, Inc. - http://www.commandprompt.com/ PostgreSQL Support, Training, Professional Services and Development The PostgreSQL Conference - http://www.postgresqlconference.org/ @cmdpromptinc - @postgresconf - 509-416-6579 |
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From: Michael P. <mic...@gm...> - 2012-06-02 04:14:44
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On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Joshua D. Drake <jd...@co...>wrote: > > Hello, > > Alright so this is what I have going on right now. I have Drupal 7 up > running on PostgreSQL 9.1 @ xc.commandprompt.com . I am currently trying > to figure out a logical structure for menu items vs content. > > If anyone wants to start a discussion on that problem it would be a great > help so I am not throwing work at a dart board that is going to be cleared > at the end of the day. > Some menu items for download and documentation would be great. For the time being documentation is stored here: http://postgres-xc.sourceforge.net/docs/ But the structure is very basic, I just upload the html files generated. There is no search functionality on the documentation generated either. Regarding the download options, a menu with the list of versions and links to download packages and tarballs would be great. For the time being, the release is done by simply uploading with a source tarball in sourceforge. There is no plan to work on packages there, so assuming that some people would work on rpm, debian, or whatever, a page redirecting to all the possible downloads would be nice. Then, in the About part, why not creating a menu with a couple of sub-items like: - quotes - examples of configuration - Q&A - etc. Regards, -- Michael Paquier http://michael.otacoo.com |
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