From: Alex S <sch...@gm...> - 2010-04-01 17:27:59
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Hi there, I'm trying to change the font default on my graph to New Century Schoolbook. I'm trying to do this by editing the matplotlibrc file. Unfortunately, although I'm able to change the font.family, I can't figure out how to make it use something other than the default in the family... I tried changing the list further down to only include the font I want, like this: font.serif : New Century Schoolbook #Bitstream Vera Serif, New Century Schoolbook, Century Schoolbook L, Utopia, ITC Bookman, Bookman, Nimbus Roman No9 L, Times New Roman, Times, Palatino, Charter, serif (note I commented out the other fonts, just rearranging the list to put New Century Schoolbook first didn't seem to work either) Could anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? Thanks a lot! Alex -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Changing-the-font-tp28111472p28111472.html Sent from the matplotlib - users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
From: Alex S <sch...@gm...> - 2010-04-01 18:42:10
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Hi, sorry I wasn't too clear... I changed that, but I don't seem to be able to choose between the different serif fonts, it just always gives me the default... Alex S wrote: > > Hi there, > I'm trying to change the font default on my graph to New Century > Schoolbook. I'm trying to do this by editing the matplotlibrc file. > Unfortunately, although I'm able to change the font.family, I can't figure > out how to make it use something other than the default in the family... > I tried changing the list further down to only include the font I want, > like this: > > font.serif : New Century Schoolbook #Bitstream Vera Serif, New > Century Schoolbook, Century Schoolbook L, Utopia, ITC Bookman, Bookman, > Nimbus Roman No9 L, Times New Roman, Times, Palatino, Charter, serif > > (note I commented out the other fonts, just rearranging the list to put > New Century Schoolbook first didn't seem to work either) > > Could anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? > Thanks a lot! > Alex > > -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Changing-the-font-tp28111472p28112278.html Sent from the matplotlib - users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
From: Michael D. <md...@st...> - 2010-04-02 13:15:24
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Can you set "verbose.level" to "debug-annoying" in your matplotlibrc file, and then send the output to this list. That may help us track down where the font lookup is failing. Also, what platform and version of matplotlib are you running? Mike Alex S wrote: > Hi, sorry I wasn't too clear... I changed that, but I don't seem to be able > to choose between the different serif fonts, it just always gives me the > default... > > > > Alex S wrote: > >> Hi there, >> I'm trying to change the font default on my graph to New Century >> Schoolbook. I'm trying to do this by editing the matplotlibrc file. >> Unfortunately, although I'm able to change the font.family, I can't figure >> out how to make it use something other than the default in the family... >> I tried changing the list further down to only include the font I want, >> like this: >> >> font.serif : New Century Schoolbook #Bitstream Vera Serif, New >> Century Schoolbook, Century Schoolbook L, Utopia, ITC Bookman, Bookman, >> Nimbus Roman No9 L, Times New Roman, Times, Palatino, Charter, serif >> >> (note I commented out the other fonts, just rearranging the list to put >> New Century Schoolbook first didn't seem to work either) >> >> Could anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? >> Thanks a lot! >> Alex >> >> >> > > -- Michael Droettboom Science Software Branch Operations and Engineering Division Space Telescope Science Institute Operated by AURA for NASA |
From: Michael D. <md...@st...> - 2010-04-05 15:52:02
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It would still be helpful to see the whole listing (send it to me offlist) because that will indicate where fonts are being looked for, and hopefully *why* this is failing. It should search for fonts in the standard Windows location (usually C:\Windows\Fonts). Have you tried setting font.family to "New Century Schoolbook" directly? (I wonder if the secondary lookup is failing). Cheers, Mike Alex S wrote: > I think I'm using MPL .99.1 (is there a command to check?) on Windows XP. > Thanks for the debug tip, I don't think posting the whole thing is necessary > because this line seems to be the problem: > > findfont: Could not match > :family=serif:style=normal:variant=normal:weight=normal:stretch=normal:size=12.0. > Returning > C:\Python26\lib\site-packages\matplotlib\mpl-data\fonts\ttf\Vera.ttf > > So I guess the font's missing from the folder. Can I add it somehow? > > > > Michael Droettboom-3 wrote: > >> Can you set "verbose.level" to "debug-annoying" in your matplotlibrc >> file, and then send the output to this list. That may help us track >> down where the font lookup is failing. Also, what platform and version >> of matplotlib are you running? >> >> Mike >> >> Alex S wrote: >> >>> Hi, sorry I wasn't too clear... I changed that, but I don't seem to be >>> able >>> to choose between the different serif fonts, it just always gives me the >>> default... >>> >>> >>> >>> Alex S wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hi there, >>>> I'm trying to change the font default on my graph to New Century >>>> Schoolbook. I'm trying to do this by editing the matplotlibrc file. >>>> Unfortunately, although I'm able to change the font.family, I can't >>>> figure >>>> out how to make it use something other than the default in the family... >>>> I tried changing the list further down to only include the font I want, >>>> like this: >>>> >>>> font.serif : New Century Schoolbook #Bitstream Vera Serif, New >>>> Century Schoolbook, Century Schoolbook L, Utopia, ITC Bookman, Bookman, >>>> Nimbus Roman No9 L, Times New Roman, Times, Palatino, Charter, serif >>>> >>>> (note I commented out the other fonts, just rearranging the list to put >>>> New Century Schoolbook first didn't seem to work either) >>>> >>>> Could anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? >>>> Thanks a lot! >>>> Alex >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Michael Droettboom >> Science Software Branch >> Operations and Engineering Division >> Space Telescope Science Institute >> Operated by AURA for NASA >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Matplotlib-users mailing list >> Mat...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-users >> >> >> > > -- Michael Droettboom Science Software Branch Operations and Engineering Division Space Telescope Science Institute Operated by AURA for NASA |
From: Michael D. <md...@st...> - 2010-04-05 17:46:08
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For the benefit of future users Googling this problem --> After an off-list discussion, we realized there were a couple of fonts on Alex' system with the names "Century Schoolbook" and "New Century Schoolbook LT Std". Using one of those names instead resolved the problem. Mike Alex S wrote: > Ah ok, I've sent it on to you. I've just tried setting font.family to "New > Century Schoolbook" directly but it generates something similar. I'm > starting to think part of the problem is that I've set the home directory to > U: somehow, U: being a shared drive which doesn't have a font directory... > I don't know how I set this, it's not mentioned in the rc file anywhere that > I can see... > > > Michael Droettboom-3 wrote: > >> It would still be helpful to see the whole listing (send it to me >> offlist) because that will indicate where fonts are being looked for, >> and hopefully *why* this is failing. >> >> It should search for fonts in the standard Windows location (usually >> C:\Windows\Fonts). Have you tried setting font.family to "New Century >> Schoolbook" directly? (I wonder if the secondary lookup is failing). >> >> Cheers, >> Mike >> >> Alex S wrote: >> >>> I think I'm using MPL .99.1 (is there a command to check?) on Windows XP. >>> Thanks for the debug tip, I don't think posting the whole thing is >>> necessary >>> because this line seems to be the problem: >>> >>> findfont: Could not match >>> :family=serif:style=normal:variant=normal:weight=normal:stretch=normal:size=12.0. >>> Returning >>> C:\Python26\lib\site-packages\matplotlib\mpl-data\fonts\ttf\Vera.ttf >>> >>> So I guess the font's missing from the folder. Can I add it somehow? >>> >>> >>> >>> Michael Droettboom-3 wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Can you set "verbose.level" to "debug-annoying" in your matplotlibrc >>>> file, and then send the output to this list. That may help us track >>>> down where the font lookup is failing. Also, what platform and version >>>> of matplotlib are you running? >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> Alex S wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi, sorry I wasn't too clear... I changed that, but I don't seem to be >>>>> able >>>>> to choose between the different serif fonts, it just always gives me >>>>> the >>>>> default... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Alex S wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi there, >>>>>> I'm trying to change the font default on my graph to New Century >>>>>> Schoolbook. I'm trying to do this by editing the matplotlibrc file. >>>>>> Unfortunately, although I'm able to change the font.family, I can't >>>>>> figure >>>>>> out how to make it use something other than the default in the >>>>>> family... >>>>>> I tried changing the list further down to only include the font I >>>>>> want, >>>>>> like this: >>>>>> >>>>>> font.serif : New Century Schoolbook #Bitstream Vera Serif, >>>>>> New >>>>>> Century Schoolbook, Century Schoolbook L, Utopia, ITC Bookman, >>>>>> Bookman, >>>>>> Nimbus Roman No9 L, Times New Roman, Times, Palatino, Charter, serif >>>>>> >>>>>> (note I commented out the other fonts, just rearranging the list to >>>>>> put >>>>>> New Century Schoolbook first didn't seem to work either) >>>>>> >>>>>> Could anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? >>>>>> Thanks a lot! >>>>>> Alex >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Michael Droettboom >>>> Science Software Branch >>>> Operations and Engineering Division >>>> Space Telescope Science Institute >>>> Operated by AURA for NASA >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >>>> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >>>> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >>>> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Matplotlib-users mailing list >>>> Mat...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-users >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Michael Droettboom >> Science Software Branch >> Operations and Engineering Division >> Space Telescope Science Institute >> Operated by AURA for NASA >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Matplotlib-users mailing list >> Mat...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-users >> >> >> > > -- Michael Droettboom Science Software Branch Operations and Engineering Division Space Telescope Science Institute Operated by AURA for NASA |
From: Alex S <sch...@gm...> - 2010-04-05 17:51:16
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Yup, thanks for the help everyone Michael Droettboom-3 wrote: > > For the benefit of future users Googling this problem --> > > After an off-list discussion, we realized there were a couple of fonts > on Alex' system with the names "Century Schoolbook" and "New Century > Schoolbook LT Std". Using one of those names instead resolved the > problem. > > Mike > > Alex S wrote: >> Ah ok, I've sent it on to you. I've just tried setting font.family to >> "New >> Century Schoolbook" directly but it generates something similar. I'm >> starting to think part of the problem is that I've set the home directory >> to >> U: somehow, U: being a shared drive which doesn't have a font >> directory... >> I don't know how I set this, it's not mentioned in the rc file anywhere >> that >> I can see... >> >> >> Michael Droettboom-3 wrote: >> >>> It would still be helpful to see the whole listing (send it to me >>> offlist) because that will indicate where fonts are being looked for, >>> and hopefully *why* this is failing. >>> >>> It should search for fonts in the standard Windows location (usually >>> C:\Windows\Fonts). Have you tried setting font.family to "New Century >>> Schoolbook" directly? (I wonder if the secondary lookup is failing). >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Mike >>> >>> Alex S wrote: >>> >>>> I think I'm using MPL .99.1 (is there a command to check?) on Windows >>>> XP. >>>> Thanks for the debug tip, I don't think posting the whole thing is >>>> necessary >>>> because this line seems to be the problem: >>>> >>>> findfont: Could not match >>>> :family=serif:style=normal:variant=normal:weight=normal:stretch=normal:size=12.0. >>>> Returning >>>> C:\Python26\lib\site-packages\matplotlib\mpl-data\fonts\ttf\Vera.ttf >>>> >>>> So I guess the font's missing from the folder. Can I add it somehow? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Michael Droettboom-3 wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Can you set "verbose.level" to "debug-annoying" in your matplotlibrc >>>>> file, and then send the output to this list. That may help us track >>>>> down where the font lookup is failing. Also, what platform and >>>>> version >>>>> of matplotlib are you running? >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> Alex S wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, sorry I wasn't too clear... I changed that, but I don't seem to >>>>>> be >>>>>> able >>>>>> to choose between the different serif fonts, it just always gives me >>>>>> the >>>>>> default... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Alex S wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi there, >>>>>>> I'm trying to change the font default on my graph to New Century >>>>>>> Schoolbook. I'm trying to do this by editing the matplotlibrc file. >>>>>>> Unfortunately, although I'm able to change the font.family, I can't >>>>>>> figure >>>>>>> out how to make it use something other than the default in the >>>>>>> family... >>>>>>> I tried changing the list further down to only include the font I >>>>>>> want, >>>>>>> like this: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> font.serif : New Century Schoolbook #Bitstream Vera Serif, >>>>>>> New >>>>>>> Century Schoolbook, Century Schoolbook L, Utopia, ITC Bookman, >>>>>>> Bookman, >>>>>>> Nimbus Roman No9 L, Times New Roman, Times, Palatino, Charter, serif >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (note I commented out the other fonts, just rearranging the list to >>>>>>> put >>>>>>> New Century Schoolbook first didn't seem to work either) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Could anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? >>>>>>> Thanks a lot! >>>>>>> Alex >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Michael Droettboom >>>>> Science Software Branch >>>>> Operations and Engineering Division >>>>> Space Telescope Science Institute >>>>> Operated by AURA for NASA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >>>>> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >>>>> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >>>>> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Matplotlib-users mailing list >>>>> Mat...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-users >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Michael Droettboom >>> Science Software Branch >>> Operations and Engineering Division >>> Space Telescope Science Institute >>> Operated by AURA for NASA >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >>> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >>> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >>> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Matplotlib-users mailing list >>> Mat...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-users >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- > Michael Droettboom > Science Software Branch > Operations and Engineering Division > Space Telescope Science Institute > Operated by AURA for NASA > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > _______________________________________________ > Matplotlib-users mailing list > Mat...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-users > > -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Changing-the-font-tp28111472p28142759.html Sent from the matplotlib - users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
From: Alex S <sch...@gm...> - 2010-04-05 15:23:32
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I think I'm using MPL .99.1 (is there a command to check?) on Windows XP. Thanks for the debug tip, I don't think posting the whole thing is necessary because this line seems to be the problem: findfont: Could not match :family=serif:style=normal:variant=normal:weight=normal:stretch=normal:size=12.0. Returning C:\Python26\lib\site-packages\matplotlib\mpl-data\fonts\ttf\Vera.ttf So I guess the font's missing from the folder. Can I add it somehow? Michael Droettboom-3 wrote: > > Can you set "verbose.level" to "debug-annoying" in your matplotlibrc > file, and then send the output to this list. That may help us track > down where the font lookup is failing. Also, what platform and version > of matplotlib are you running? > > Mike > > Alex S wrote: >> Hi, sorry I wasn't too clear... I changed that, but I don't seem to be >> able >> to choose between the different serif fonts, it just always gives me the >> default... >> >> >> >> Alex S wrote: >> >>> Hi there, >>> I'm trying to change the font default on my graph to New Century >>> Schoolbook. I'm trying to do this by editing the matplotlibrc file. >>> Unfortunately, although I'm able to change the font.family, I can't >>> figure >>> out how to make it use something other than the default in the family... >>> I tried changing the list further down to only include the font I want, >>> like this: >>> >>> font.serif : New Century Schoolbook #Bitstream Vera Serif, New >>> Century Schoolbook, Century Schoolbook L, Utopia, ITC Bookman, Bookman, >>> Nimbus Roman No9 L, Times New Roman, Times, Palatino, Charter, serif >>> >>> (note I commented out the other fonts, just rearranging the list to put >>> New Century Schoolbook first didn't seem to work either) >>> >>> Could anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? >>> Thanks a lot! >>> Alex >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- > Michael Droettboom > Science Software Branch > Operations and Engineering Division > Space Telescope Science Institute > Operated by AURA for NASA > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > _______________________________________________ > Matplotlib-users mailing list > Mat...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-users > > -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Changing-the-font-tp28111472p28141094.html Sent from the matplotlib - users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
From: Alex S <sch...@gm...> - 2010-04-05 16:17:49
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Ah ok, I've sent it on to you. I've just tried setting font.family to "New Century Schoolbook" directly but it generates something similar. I'm starting to think part of the problem is that I've set the home directory to U: somehow, U: being a shared drive which doesn't have a font directory... I don't know how I set this, it's not mentioned in the rc file anywhere that I can see... Michael Droettboom-3 wrote: > > It would still be helpful to see the whole listing (send it to me > offlist) because that will indicate where fonts are being looked for, > and hopefully *why* this is failing. > > It should search for fonts in the standard Windows location (usually > C:\Windows\Fonts). Have you tried setting font.family to "New Century > Schoolbook" directly? (I wonder if the secondary lookup is failing). > > Cheers, > Mike > > Alex S wrote: >> I think I'm using MPL .99.1 (is there a command to check?) on Windows XP. >> Thanks for the debug tip, I don't think posting the whole thing is >> necessary >> because this line seems to be the problem: >> >> findfont: Could not match >> :family=serif:style=normal:variant=normal:weight=normal:stretch=normal:size=12.0. >> Returning >> C:\Python26\lib\site-packages\matplotlib\mpl-data\fonts\ttf\Vera.ttf >> >> So I guess the font's missing from the folder. Can I add it somehow? >> >> >> >> Michael Droettboom-3 wrote: >> >>> Can you set "verbose.level" to "debug-annoying" in your matplotlibrc >>> file, and then send the output to this list. That may help us track >>> down where the font lookup is failing. Also, what platform and version >>> of matplotlib are you running? >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> Alex S wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, sorry I wasn't too clear... I changed that, but I don't seem to be >>>> able >>>> to choose between the different serif fonts, it just always gives me >>>> the >>>> default... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Alex S wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi there, >>>>> I'm trying to change the font default on my graph to New Century >>>>> Schoolbook. I'm trying to do this by editing the matplotlibrc file. >>>>> Unfortunately, although I'm able to change the font.family, I can't >>>>> figure >>>>> out how to make it use something other than the default in the >>>>> family... >>>>> I tried changing the list further down to only include the font I >>>>> want, >>>>> like this: >>>>> >>>>> font.serif : New Century Schoolbook #Bitstream Vera Serif, >>>>> New >>>>> Century Schoolbook, Century Schoolbook L, Utopia, ITC Bookman, >>>>> Bookman, >>>>> Nimbus Roman No9 L, Times New Roman, Times, Palatino, Charter, serif >>>>> >>>>> (note I commented out the other fonts, just rearranging the list to >>>>> put >>>>> New Century Schoolbook first didn't seem to work either) >>>>> >>>>> Could anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? >>>>> Thanks a lot! >>>>> Alex >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Michael Droettboom >>> Science Software Branch >>> Operations and Engineering Division >>> Space Telescope Science Institute >>> Operated by AURA for NASA >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >>> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >>> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >>> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Matplotlib-users mailing list >>> Mat...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-users >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- > Michael Droettboom > Science Software Branch > Operations and Engineering Division > Space Telescope Science Institute > Operated by AURA for NASA > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > _______________________________________________ > Matplotlib-users mailing list > Mat...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-users > > -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Changing-the-font-tp28111472p28141683.html Sent from the matplotlib - users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |