Re: [Dev-C++] Fw: Project development ceased?

On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Reid Thompson <rei...@at...> wrote:
> Chris Miller wrote:
>  > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Reid Thompson <Rei...@at...> wrote:
>  >> I've done some very simple stuff with it.  Basic hello world, etc.
>  >>  Worked fine in that context.
>  >>
>  >>  As a note.  Netbeans is the framework that SUN is basing their entire
>  >>  development suite on, for SOLARIS and INTEL chipsets.  I.E. Sun Studio
>  >>  12 is 'Netbeans' -- I'd expect it to be able to do most anything you'd
>  >>  want. for that matter, I think Sun Studio 12 is available for free
>  >>  download...
>  >
>  > Good grief!  That's a shame, since I gave NetBeans a good, long try
>  > and found it completely inferior to Eclipse in every way save for Java
>  > tracing and profiling.  Specifically, the editing support was
>  > horrible.  The indentation engine was all wrong, and the whole
>  > look-n-feel was just singularly unprofessional.
>  >
>  > Just proves my point: Eclipse is the new Emacs ("Looks like he's
>  > heading for that small operating system! \ That's no operating system!
>  >  That's an application! \ I wonder what it's called... \ This is the
>  > Death Star Emacs!  Lower your patents and surrender your code!
>  > Resistance is futile!  Your technological distinctiveness will be
>  > assimilated and become our own!  We are the Emacs!")
>  >
>  > Yes, I know I just fused Star Wars and Star Trek.  Bite me.
>  >
>  What was the issue with editing support?
>  What was wrong with the indentation engine?

It really didn't conform well the the K&R way of doing things.  In the
interest of saving time, I'll just stop the format wars now and say
that there is no "right" way to format and indent your code.  I like
K&R.  NetBeans could not support K&R for some reason.  Eclipse didn't
by default, but it had a nice toggle to make it go K&R.  NetBeans
didn't have any such toggle.  It was *annoying!*

Personally, I hate fighting my editor when I'm coding.  Other people
can be different, that's okay, but I have a legitimate weakness in
NetBeans because it's very difficult to just code in it because it's
so bad at adapting to various indentation styles.

Otherwise I think NetBeans is great!  It's got a beautiful profiler
that I used a lot to diagnose bad code for friends.  I helped kill a
really bad bug in a codebase for a Robotics club that caused horrific
amounts of allocation and deallocation of memory by just finding that
in a single spot they used String+=String, instead of a StringBuilder
(Strings in Java are immutable).

I just prefer Eclipse.

Right now I'm using the D Programming Language, so I'm using neither
of the two at the moment.  So there!  I have less bias!

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