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From: Eric <eri...@wo...> - 2008-03-21 18:54:38
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Anybody tried C++ in netbeans? You can get free DVD from web site order or download the lot from web site. google netbeans to find out more. OK I will do it to save you time http://www.netbeans.org/features/cpp/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Per Westermark <pw...@ia...> To: Tiago Almeida <to...@gm...> Cc: <dev...@li...> Sent: Saturday, 22 March, 2008 2:22 AM Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Project development ceased? Yes, it has ceasued. Most people have moved to Code::Blocks, Eclipse, ... /pwm On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, Tiago Almeida wrote: > Has Dev C++ project ceased? There's no any release since 2005... > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Dev-cpp-users mailing list Dev...@li... TO UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www23.brinkster.com/noicys/devcpp/ub.htm https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1336 - Release Date: 20-Mar-08 9:48 AM |
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From: Reid T. <Rei...@at...> - 2008-03-21 19:05:45
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I've done some very simple stuff with it. Basic hello world, etc. Worked fine in that context. As a note. Netbeans is the framework that SUN is basing their entire development suite on, for SOLARIS and INTEL chipsets. I.E. Sun Studio 12 is 'Netbeans' -- I'd expect it to be able to do most anything you'd want. for that matter, I think Sun Studio 12 is available for free download... On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 07:54 +1200, Eric wrote: > Anybody tried C++ in netbeans? > You can get free DVD from web site order > or download the lot from web site. > > google netbeans to find out more. > OK I will do it to save you time > http://www.netbeans.org/features/cpp/index.html > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Per Westermark <pw...@ia...> > To: Tiago Almeida <to...@gm...> > Cc: <dev...@li...> > Sent: Saturday, 22 March, 2008 2:22 AM > Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Project development ceased? > > > Yes, it has ceasued. > > Most people have moved to Code::Blocks, Eclipse, ... > > /pwm > > On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, Tiago Almeida wrote: > > > Has Dev C++ project ceased? There's no any release since 2005... > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Dev-cpp-users mailing list > Dev...@li... > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www23.brinkster.com/noicys/devcpp/ub.htm > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1336 - Release Date: 20-Mar-08 > 9:48 AM > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Dev-cpp-users mailing list > Dev...@li... > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www23.brinkster.com/noicys/devcpp/ub.htm > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users |
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From: Chris M. <lor...@gm...> - 2008-03-21 20:42:47
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On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Reid Thompson <Rei...@at...> wrote:
> I've done some very simple stuff with it. Basic hello world, etc.
> Worked fine in that context.
>
> As a note. Netbeans is the framework that SUN is basing their entire
> development suite on, for SOLARIS and INTEL chipsets. I.E. Sun Studio
> 12 is 'Netbeans' -- I'd expect it to be able to do most anything you'd
> want. for that matter, I think Sun Studio 12 is available for free
> download...
Good grief! That's a shame, since I gave NetBeans a good, long try
and found it completely inferior to Eclipse in every way save for Java
tracing and profiling. Specifically, the editing support was
horrible. The indentation engine was all wrong, and the whole
look-n-feel was just singularly unprofessional.
Just proves my point: Eclipse is the new Emacs ("Looks like he's
heading for that small operating system! \ That's no operating system!
That's an application! \ I wonder what it's called... \ This is the
Death Star Emacs! Lower your patents and surrender your code!
Resistance is futile! Your technological distinctiveness will be
assimilated and become our own! We are the Emacs!")
Yes, I know I just fused Star Wars and Star Trek. Bite me.
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From: Chris M. <lor...@gm...> - 2008-03-22 01:16:15
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On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Reid Thompson <rei...@at...> wrote:
> Chris Miller wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Reid Thompson <Rei...@at...> wrote:
> >> I've done some very simple stuff with it. Basic hello world, etc.
> >> Worked fine in that context.
> >>
> >> As a note. Netbeans is the framework that SUN is basing their entire
> >> development suite on, for SOLARIS and INTEL chipsets. I.E. Sun Studio
> >> 12 is 'Netbeans' -- I'd expect it to be able to do most anything you'd
> >> want. for that matter, I think Sun Studio 12 is available for free
> >> download...
> >
> > Good grief! That's a shame, since I gave NetBeans a good, long try
> > and found it completely inferior to Eclipse in every way save for Java
> > tracing and profiling. Specifically, the editing support was
> > horrible. The indentation engine was all wrong, and the whole
> > look-n-feel was just singularly unprofessional.
> >
> > Just proves my point: Eclipse is the new Emacs ("Looks like he's
> > heading for that small operating system! \ That's no operating system!
> > That's an application! \ I wonder what it's called... \ This is the
> > Death Star Emacs! Lower your patents and surrender your code!
> > Resistance is futile! Your technological distinctiveness will be
> > assimilated and become our own! We are the Emacs!")
> >
> > Yes, I know I just fused Star Wars and Star Trek. Bite me.
> >
> What was the issue with editing support?
> What was wrong with the indentation engine?
It really didn't conform well the the K&R way of doing things. In the
interest of saving time, I'll just stop the format wars now and say
that there is no "right" way to format and indent your code. I like
K&R. NetBeans could not support K&R for some reason. Eclipse didn't
by default, but it had a nice toggle to make it go K&R. NetBeans
didn't have any such toggle. It was *annoying!*
Personally, I hate fighting my editor when I'm coding. Other people
can be different, that's okay, but I have a legitimate weakness in
NetBeans because it's very difficult to just code in it because it's
so bad at adapting to various indentation styles.
Otherwise I think NetBeans is great! It's got a beautiful profiler
that I used a lot to diagnose bad code for friends. I helped kill a
really bad bug in a codebase for a Robotics club that caused horrific
amounts of allocation and deallocation of memory by just finding that
in a single spot they used String+=String, instead of a StringBuilder
(Strings in Java are immutable).
I just prefer Eclipse.
Right now I'm using the D Programming Language, so I'm using neither
of the two at the moment. So there! I have less bias!
Note: try to hit the reply-to-all button, since you're missing the
list and just mailing me!
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From: Chris M. <lor...@gm...> - 2008-03-21 23:33:12
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On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Eric <eri...@wo...> wrote: > which version of NetBeans was it? it is up to version 6 now It was NetBeans 6, though I also worked on 5, since 6 was still going through its final beta stage. -- Registered Linux Addict #431495 http://profile.xfire.com/mrstalinman | John 3:16! http://www.fsdev.net/ | http://lordsauron.wordpress.com/ |
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From: Reid T. <rei...@at...> - 2008-03-22 02:00:53
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Chris Miller wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Reid Thompson <rei...@at...> wrote:
>> Chris Miller wrote:
>> > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Reid Thompson <Rei...@at...> wrote:
>> >> I've done some very simple stuff with it. Basic hello world, etc.
>> >> Worked fine in that context.
>> >>
>> >> As a note. Netbeans is the framework that SUN is basing their entire
>> >> development suite on, for SOLARIS and INTEL chipsets. I.E. Sun Studio
>> >> 12 is 'Netbeans' -- I'd expect it to be able to do most anything you'd
>> >> want. for that matter, I think Sun Studio 12 is available for free
>> >> download...
>> >
>> > Good grief! That's a shame, since I gave NetBeans a good, long try
>> > and found it completely inferior to Eclipse in every way save for Java
>> > tracing and profiling. Specifically, the editing support was
>> > horrible. The indentation engine was all wrong, and the whole
>> > look-n-feel was just singularly unprofessional.
>> >
>> > Just proves my point: Eclipse is the new Emacs ("Looks like he's
>> > heading for that small operating system! \ That's no operating system!
>> > That's an application! \ I wonder what it's called... \ This is the
>> > Death Star Emacs! Lower your patents and surrender your code!
>> > Resistance is futile! Your technological distinctiveness will be
>> > assimilated and become our own! We are the Emacs!")
>> >
>> > Yes, I know I just fused Star Wars and Star Trek. Bite me.
>> >
>> What was the issue with editing support?
>> What was wrong with the indentation engine?
>
> It really didn't conform well the the K&R way of doing things. In the
> interest of saving time, I'll just stop the format wars now and say
> that there is no "right" way to format and indent your code.
not intending to start one... just surprised to hear that that you found
indentation issues. i've not had any problems configuring NB to conform to any
need.
I like
> K&R. NetBeans could not support K&R for some reason.
Which version? 6.0 appears to format K&R by default.
Eclipse didn't
> by default, but it had a nice toggle to make it go K&R. NetBeans
> didn't have any such toggle. It was *annoying!*
understood
>
> Personally, I hate fighting my editor when I'm coding. Other people
> can be different, that's okay, but I have a legitimate weakness in
> NetBeans because it's very difficult to just code in it because it's
> so bad at adapting to various indentation styles.
understood again, generally all the code that i deal with is pretty consistent
as to style.
>
> Otherwise I think NetBeans is great! It's got a beautiful profiler
> that I used a lot to diagnose bad code for friends. I helped kill a
> really bad bug in a codebase for a Robotics club that caused horrific
> amounts of allocation and deallocation of memory by just finding that
> in a single spot they used String+=String, instead of a StringBuilder
> (Strings in Java are immutable).
heh the !one! thing for me is jVi..
>
> I just prefer Eclipse.
>
> Right now I'm using the D Programming Language, so I'm using neither
> of the two at the moment. So there! I have less bias!
>
> Note: try to hit the reply-to-all button, since you're missing the
> list and just mailing me!
Yeah,, I realized i hit the wrong button too late,, but didn't want to duplicate
the email.
>
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From: Chris M. <lor...@gm...> - 2008-03-22 03:22:10
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On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Reid Thompson <rei...@at...> wrote:
> Chris Miller wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Reid Thompson <rei...@at...> wrote:
> >> Chris Miller wrote:
> >> > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Reid Thompson <Rei...@at...> wrote:
> >> >> I've done some very simple stuff with it. Basic hello world, etc.
> >> >> Worked fine in that context.
> >> >>
> >> >> As a note. Netbeans is the framework that SUN is basing their entire
> >> >> development suite on, for SOLARIS and INTEL chipsets. I.E. Sun Studio
> >> >> 12 is 'Netbeans' -- I'd expect it to be able to do most anything you'd
> >> >> want. for that matter, I think Sun Studio 12 is available for free
> >> >> download...
> >> >
> >> > Good grief! That's a shame, since I gave NetBeans a good, long try
> >> > and found it completely inferior to Eclipse in every way save for Java
> >> > tracing and profiling. Specifically, the editing support was
> >> > horrible. The indentation engine was all wrong, and the whole
> >> > look-n-feel was just singularly unprofessional.
> >> >
> >> > Just proves my point: Eclipse is the new Emacs ("Looks like he's
> >> > heading for that small operating system! \ That's no operating system!
> >> > That's an application! \ I wonder what it's called... \ This is the
> >> > Death Star Emacs! Lower your patents and surrender your code!
> >> > Resistance is futile! Your technological distinctiveness will be
> >> > assimilated and become our own! We are the Emacs!")
> >> >
> >> > Yes, I know I just fused Star Wars and Star Trek. Bite me.
> >> >
> >> What was the issue with editing support?
> >> What was wrong with the indentation engine?
> >
> > It really didn't conform well the the K&R way of doing things. In the
> > interest of saving time, I'll just stop the format wars now and say
> > that there is no "right" way to format and indent your code.
> not intending to start one... just surprised to hear that that you found
> indentation issues. i've not had any problems configuring NB to conform to any
> need.
Yeah, it was weird. I keep dreaming of an editor which fuses the best
of Netbeans (the GUI editor and profiling) and Eclipse (the source
editing - editing stuff in Eclipse is absolutely divine! I have yet
to find ANY editor which comes close). Given the state of affairs
between Sun and Eclipse Foundation, I really doubt that'll happen.
Eclipse is still the new Emacs. ;)
> I like
> > K&R. NetBeans could not support K&R for some reason.
> Which version? 6.0 appears to format K&R by default.
Hmm.. That's odd. I never got it to work. I eventually gave up and
just ran the profiler in NetBeans and then used Eclipse for writing
the app.
I liked the NetBeans GUI builder a bit better, but I found Eclipse's
to be a lot more sturdy when using tabbed views.
> >
> > Personally, I hate fighting my editor when I'm coding. Other people
> > can be different, that's okay, but I have a legitimate weakness in
> > NetBeans because it's very difficult to just code in it because it's
> > so bad at adapting to various indentation styles.
> understood again, generally all the code that i deal with is pretty consistent
> as to style.
Yeah, my style is really really compact. Here's a D example
(unfinished, just an expository example) to prove it:
file=new FileConduit(filename, FileConduit.ReadWriteOpen);
scope(exit) file.close;
// eat the file by line and parse the INI file!
LineInput tknzr=new LineInput(file.input);
char[] current_header; uint tmp;
foreach(line; tknzr) {
if(line[0]=='[') { // it's a header
line=line[1..$-1]; // cut out the
// header info; find the first header
// name
tmp=txtUtil.locate(line, ".");
As you can see, I prefer compact code. It comes from working on
low-resolution monitors. Then when I work on my dual-monitor
workstation it's great, 'cause I can see so much more without
scrolling :)
> >
> > Otherwise I think NetBeans is great! It's got a beautiful profiler
> > that I used a lot to diagnose bad code for friends. I helped kill a
> > really bad bug in a codebase for a Robotics club that caused horrific
> > amounts of allocation and deallocation of memory by just finding that
> > in a single spot they used String+=String, instead of a StringBuilder
> > (Strings in Java are immutable).
> heh the !one! thing for me is jVi..
I never really liked vi. I was always partial to pico. Could have
been a bad experience with my not being able to figure out how to get
out of it (I was *very* new to Linux).
> >
> > I just prefer Eclipse.
> >
> > Right now I'm using the D Programming Language, so I'm using neither
> > of the two at the moment. So there! I have less bias!
> >
> > Note: try to hit the reply-to-all button, since you're missing the
> > list and just mailing me!
> Yeah,, I realized i hit the wrong button too late,, but didn't want to duplicate
> the email.
Yeah, we've all been there. It just happened twice so I thought it
might be necessary to give a reminder. I'm horrible with names, so
that I treat everyone with equal status on mailing lists is simply
because I can't remember anyone anyways. So how could I remember if
you're new here or if you've been around for a while? Just my little
problem.
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From: Reid T. <rei...@at...> - 2008-03-22 02:14:39
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Reid Thompson wrote: > heh the !one! thing for me is jVi.. >> I just prefer Eclipse. forgot to note, I do basically all of my editing in VIM. If I need to trace code, I use Source Navigator. If anyone needs a great tool to utilize to learn a new code base, or trace through code, I recommend giving it a try. Or you could use it for your IDE if you want. http://sourcenav.berlios.de/ http://sourcenav.berlios.de/screenshots/ the original user docs http://sourcenav.sourceforge.net/online-docs/userguide/index_ug.html |
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From: Chris M. <lor...@gm...> - 2008-03-22 03:26:41
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On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 7:14 PM, Reid Thompson <rei...@at...> wrote: > Reid Thompson wrote: > > > heh the !one! thing for me is jVi.. > >> I just prefer Eclipse. > forgot to note, I do basically all of my editing in VIM. If I need to trace > code, I use Source Navigator. If anyone needs a great tool to utilize to learn > a new code base, or trace through code, I recommend giving it a try. Or you > could use it for your IDE if you want. > > http://sourcenav.berlios.de/ > http://sourcenav.berlios.de/screenshots/ > > the original user docs > http://sourcenav.sourceforge.net/online-docs/userguide/index_ug.html I found a fascinating little editor called Ultimate++: http://www.ultimatepp.org/ http://www.ultimatepp.org/www$uppweb$idess$en-us.html It's really... different. In an interesting way. It also has a decent editor. For those looking for a more up-to-date DevC++, I think most of the DevC++ movement got re-incarnated into the wxDev-C++ project. I think it also includes a GUI Builder for wxWidgets, which is a very good GUI library in case you're looking for one. http://wxdsgn.sourceforge.net/ -- Registered Linux Addict #431495 http://profile.xfire.com/mrstalinman | John 3:16! http://www.fsdev.net/ | http://lordsauron.wordpress.com/ |
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