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Hi,

Just a quick question. If I call sin.sync_with_stdio(), will it =
guarantee that getch() will work with cin/cout without problems?

Chris.

Esteban,

Hi. If you remove 'ios::nocreate' from the line where you open infile, I
think you will find it works as planned, as follows:

    infile.open(filename);

Hope this helps!

Chris


----- Original Message -----
From: "Esteban Crespí de Valldaura" <ec...@re...>
To: <dev...@li...>
Sent: 30 October 2000 23:00
Subject: [Dev-C++] get


> Hello, I am new to C++.
> I am following a tutorial in wich it appears the following code (wich
makes
> a copy of a file):
>
> #include <iostream.h>
> #include <fstream.h>
> #include <process.h>
>
> void main()
> {
> ifstream infile;
> ofstream outfile;
> char filename[20];
>
>    cout << "Enter the desired file to copy ----> ";
>    cin >> filename;
>    infile.open(filename, ios::nocreate);
>    if (!infile) {
>      cout << "Input file cannot be opened.\n";
>       exit(1);
>    }
>    outfile.open("copy");
>    if (!outfile) {
>       cout << "Output file cannot be opened.\n";
>       exit(1);
>    }
>    char one_char;
>      while (infile.get(one_char)) {
>       outfile.put(one_char);
>       cout.put(one_char);
>    }
>    infile.close();
>    outfile.close();
> }
>
> It should create a copy of the original file into the file "COPY". The
> program compiles and runs properly but the file COPY is empty (it exists
but
> has 0 bytes), what is wrong?
>
> thanks. Esteban
>
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Hello, I am new to C++.
I am following a tutorial in wich it appears the following code (wich makes
a copy of a file):

	#include <iostream.h>
	#include <fstream.h>
	#include <process.h>

	void main()
	{
	ifstream infile;
	ofstream outfile;
	char filename[20];

	   cout << "Enter the desired file to copy ----> ";
	   cin >> filename;
	   infile.open(filename, ios::nocreate);
	   if (!infile) {
     		cout << "Input file cannot be opened.\n";
	      exit(1);
	   }
	   outfile.open("copy");
	   if (!outfile) {
	      cout << "Output file cannot be opened.\n";
	      exit(1);
	   }
	   char one_char;
  	   while (infile.get(one_char)) {
      	outfile.put(one_char);
	      cout.put(one_char);
	   }
	   infile.close();
	   outfile.close();
	}

It should create a copy of the original file into the file "COPY". The
program compiles and runs properly but the file COPY is empty (it exists but
has 0 bytes), what is wrong?

thanks. Esteban

Hello everyone.

Ive written the following function which overloads the insertion =
operator for a class for restricting the input of a string to digits =
only:


class mystring
{
 char *str;

 // ....
public:
 friend istream& operator >> (istream &is, mystring &rhs);

 // ...
};

istream& operator >> (istream &is, mystring &rhs)
{
 char buf[256];
 char ch;
 short len =3D 0;

 do
 {
  ch =3D getch();

  if(isdigit(ch))
  {
   cout << ch;
   buf[len++] =3D ch;=20
  }
 } while(ch!=3D13); // while not 'return'. =20

 buf[len] =3D '\0'; // terminate string;
 rhs.str =3D new char[len];
 strcpy(rhs.str, buf);

 return is;
}

This compiles and runs fine on my compilers, but when I compile it and =
run it on my college compiler (MSVC++) getch and cin/cout dont get =
along!

My question is - being as getch() is non ansi and it also uses different =
buffers than cin/cout - is there a way of writing a simular function =
without using getch? getch is good because it doesn't display inputted =
characters and doesn't wait for a return keystroke, but I dont know how =
to achieve the same thing using cin/cout.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance=20

Chris

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li...
> [mailto:dev...@li...]On Behalf Of
> Chris Bunney
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 10:38 PM
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: [Dev-C++] using getch with cin.
>
>
> Hi everyone.
>
> I wrote a function using dev c that overloads the insertion operator for a
> class. I used the getch() function within this function and everything
> worked fine.
>
> However, when I took this code to college the next day and
> compiled it under
> MS Vusual C++ it caused all sorts of problems. My lecturer said
> this was to
> do with getch using different buffers that cin.
>
> Is there a way to make sure that getch will work with cin on all
> compilers?


No, since getch() is not part of ANSI C++. Also it is not even part of ANSI
C, so any program using getch() is not considered portable.


Ioannis


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Hi everyone.

I wrote a function using dev c that overloads the insertion operator for a
class. I used the getch() function within this function and everything
worked fine.

However, when I took this code to college the next day and compiled it under
MS Vusual C++ it caused all sorts of problems. My lecturer said this was to
do with getch using different buffers that cin.

Is there a way to make sure that getch will work with cin on all compilers?

Thanks in advance.

Chris

Hi

Has someone ever compiled the FOX toolkit library using the dev-c++ =
environment ? The FOX web site said it could be done using the mingw32 =
compiler, but I don't know if it could be done using the IDE.

thanks

    Eric

Hi everybody,

I also encountered problems searching for non-MFC API related sites. I
decided then to create personal pages including those sites so everyone
can have a look to them and learn.

If you are interested then I suggest you to visit 

http://www.geocities.com/josempadron

Cheers,

Chemanuel


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    The code at cpp-programming works, have you looked at: =
http://www.relisoft.com/win32/index.htm the explanations are sometimes =
awkward, but the code is fabulous. It is a good follow up to =
cpp-programming's tutorial.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Matthew Hickson=20
  To: Dev...@li...=20
  Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 8:44 AM
  Subject: [Dev-C++] Windows Non-MFC programming site


  Hello everybody,

  Just thought, since I'd asked for links pertaining to C++ programming, =
that I would share a pretty slick site I came across.

  It's a non-MFC oriented (read API based) site regarding Windows =
programming.  I haven't yet sorted out whether the examples will work =
without modification on Dev-C++; however, I'm impressed with the =
simplicity and scope of the material thus far.

  If anybody would like to check it out, here's the link:
  http://www.cpp-programming.com/

  Matthew Hickson

  P.S.
  By the way, in playing with Resource Scripts in Dev-C++, I seem to =
have encountered a difficulty.  In adding a dialog resource (even when =
using the defaults provided) I get an error back on compilation (from =
windres).  It always points to the line following the initial 100 =
DIALOG... line (I'm assuming here that the error number refers to =
line... I moved things around a bit and it seemed consistant).

  The project was a simple C WinMain project (I'm not sure if this =
factors in or not).  I only know that if I add any other type of =
resource that I get no errors in the compiling of the resource script.  =
I've been trying to find documentation on windres (without any good =
hits, aside from command line options...), and I can't get to =
bloodshed.net (maybe this is a known issue?).

  Any help here would be appreciated.  I was developing a little class =
building utility in RapidQ (a nifty little BASIC style language - now in =
limbo as it's author was picked up by a software company [Ah!  So dreams =
do come true! 8-)]) but have found that I would now rather just "bite =
the bullet" and use C++.  However, my inability to create anything more =
than simple Windows interfaces is a little frustrating (I think I can =
handle the underlying C++, but there's only one way to tell! 8-)

  Thanks again.


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Hello,

Here.  Let's try it this way (I hate my mail client by times... sorry =
about the double post guys).

How about something along these lines for variable spacing.

printf("%sSomething else.", sVar);

where sVar is a variable number of spaces.  You should be able to fill a =
string (character array in this case) via something in the <string.h> =
(or <cstring.h> if your compiler is predominantly C++) library.

strcat and strlen might be of use.
  I am trying to make it where I can put spaces into a line but at =
differing lengths each time.=20

Matthew Hickson

Hello,
  I am trying to make it where I can put spaces into a line but at =
differing lengths each time.=20

If you're using C (as you've said), you could try something along these =
lines...

#include <stdio.h>

-----Original Message-----
From: dev...@li...
[mailto:dev...@li...]On Behalf Of blalock
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 2:59 AM
To: c++ dev
Subject: [Dev-C++] A newbie question


I am in class learning C. I am trying to do something, just goofing not
schoolwork, and I wanted to know if I can put a variable in my printf format
string. IE
printf("%variables%5f%3s");

No.

I am trying to make it where I can put spaces into a line but at differing
lengths each time.


You can try  #define, #ifdef, #ifndef, e.t.c. in some way but if you want to
create spaces only you can try something like this:

int main()
{
int i=0, spaces=0;

/* spaces are defined somewhere in the code */

for (i=0; i<spaces; i++)
printf(" "); /* It inserts spaces in a line */

...

return 0;
}



If I am misspeaking by asking in this forum, please forgive me. If this is
not a place to ask questions of a general type, could you please direct me
where to go.

It is the right place.

p/s if this is the place for such posts, I have a thousand more :)

Ok post them. :)



Ioannis

* Ioannis Vranos
* Programming pages: http://members.nbci.com/noicys
* Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys

I am in class learning C. I am trying to do something, just goofing not
schoolwork, and I wanted to know if I can put a variable in my printf
format string. IE

printf("%variables%5f%3s");

I am trying to make it where I can put spaces into a line but at
differing lengths each time.

If I am misspeaking by asking in this forum, please forgive me. If this
is not a place to ask questions of a general type, could you please
direct me where to go.
                                    Thanks,
                                                Blalock

p/s if this is the place for such posts, I have a thousand more :)

Hello everybody,

Just thought, since I'd asked for links pertaining to C++ programming, =
that I would share a pretty slick site I came across.

It's a non-MFC oriented (read API based) site regarding Windows =
programming.  I haven't yet sorted out whether the examples will work =
without modification on Dev-C++; however, I'm impressed with the =
simplicity and scope of the material thus far.

If anybody would like to check it out, here's the link:
http://www.cpp-programming.com/

Matthew Hickson

P.S.
By the way, in playing with Resource Scripts in Dev-C++, I seem to have =
encountered a difficulty.  In adding a dialog resource (even when using =
the defaults provided) I get an error back on compilation (from =
windres).  It always points to the line following the initial 100 =
DIALOG... line (I'm assuming here that the error number refers to =
line... I moved things around a bit and it seemed consistant).

The project was a simple C WinMain project (I'm not sure if this factors =
in or not).  I only know that if I add any other type of resource that I =
get no errors in the compiling of the resource script.  I've been trying =
to find documentation on windres (without any good hits, aside from =
command line options...), and I can't get to bloodshed.net (maybe this =
is a known issue?).

Any help here would be appreciated.  I was developing a little class =
building utility in RapidQ (a nifty little BASIC style language - now in =
limbo as it's author was picked up by a software company [Ah!  So dreams =
do come true! 8-)]) but have found that I would now rather just "bite =
the bullet" and use C++.  However, my inability to create anything more =
than simple Windows interfaces is a little frustrating (I think I can =
handle the underlying C++, but there's only one way to tell! 8-)

Thanks again.

Hello all,

> >I did not receive it as an insult anyway. Also i consider chinese, and
the
> >like more difficult to read.
> >Chinese have 380 letters or something. :)

More, if I remember correctly (thousands, only about 3000 common characters
though).

> FWIW Spanish speakers have an idiom "es chino", it's Chinese, rather than
> the English speaker's choice of "It's Greek".

It wasn't my intention, by any stretch of the imagination, to be
ethno-centric (neutrally or negatively).  My apologies, whether I have given
offense or not.  Traditionally, I've heard the "It's Greek to me...";
however, these days, just about any non-English language is used (though
some less often than others).  From this point onward, I shall put a little
more thought into what I'm thinking and typing!

Here I was thinking that "long in the tooth" had been misunderstood.  Funny
how the international nature of the Internet points out glaring oddities in
one's behaviour/thoughts.  (For what it matters... I try to avoid smart-ass
American comments...  I use smart-ass Canadian comments 8-).

Anyhow, on a different note.  Many thanks for the wealth of resource
material that everybody took the time to point out.  It'll no doubt take
some time to digest (so I'd best get to it! 8-).

Matthew Hickson

P.S.
A further note. I'm current with Dev-C++ 4.0 (I like the extended Tools
menu... You CAN run your favourite MIDI file from it! 8-)  Is there a
"plug-in" style API for Tools? (I admit, I'm remiss in downloading the
source for the IDE, and my Delphi is... nearly non-existent, so it might not
be my choice for developing something like that.)

Hello,

Does anyone know a way around this problem:

I have written a function that delays for secs amount of seconds:


#include <ctime>

void pause(int secs)
{
 time_t current, end;

 current =3D clock();
 end =3D current + CLOCKS_PER_SEC * sec;

 while(current < end)
  current =3D clock();
}


The problem is when I try to use it as follows:

int main()
{
 int t =3D 10;

 cout << "Count down: ";

 while(t >=3D 0)
 {
  cout << t-- << "  \r";
  pause(1);
 }

 return 0;
}

The program executes but doesn't displa the count down numbers until the =
time is up - then it just displays 10.

The program works fine though if I use printf() instead of cout! Why is =
this - I want it to work with cout! Is is something to do with buffers?

Thanx in advance.

Chris.

On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Ioannis Vranos wrote:

> Go to the command prompt window, cd in the directory you have the source
> code, and run the exe from within the command prompt window.
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: dev...@li...
> [mailto:dev...@li...]On Behalf Of Saundra
> Schwarz
>   Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 4:00 AM
>   To: dev...@li...
>   Subject: [Dev-C++] Print Question
> 
> 
>   I'm a student taking a class in C programming.  I need to be able to print
> the results of my program, but when I use the run feature the program runs
> then the run window closes.  Is there a way to keep the run window active so
> that I can print the results of my run?  Right now i'm using a while loop at
> the end of my programs to hold the screen until I can print.
> 
>   -Sam
> 

At 12:45 AM 10/20/2000 +0200, you wrote:
>I did not receive it as an insult anyway. Also i consider chinese, and the
>like more difficult to read.
>Chinese have 380 letters or something. :)
>
>
>Ioannis

FWIW Spanish speakers have an idiom "es chino", it's Chinese, rather than 
the English speaker's choice of "It's Greek".

Larry Hamilton

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li...
> [mailto:dev...@li...]On Behalf Of
> Don...@in...
> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 11:06 PM
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: RE: Programming Tomes was [Dev-C++] Question of the day
>
> Actually, the expression "It's Greek to me" refers to the fact that the
> Greek alphabet is unreadable to the poor souls who were brought
> up with the
> Latin alphabet.  Basically, it means that the subject matter is so
> technical, abstruse or esoteric that the reader cannot understand it, and
> so it might just as well be written in Greek for all the good it does him
> or her.  Yes, it probably is an American expression, but no, I don't think
> any ethnic slur is intended by it.


I did not receive it as an insult anyway. Also i consider chinese, and the
like more difficult to read.
Chinese have 380 letters or something. :)


Ioannis


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10/19/2000 03:13 PM ---------------------------


Donald Thumim
10/19/2000 03:05 PM

To:   dev...@li...
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Subject:  RE: Programming Tomes was [Dev-C++] Question of the day
      (Document link: Database 'Donald Thumim', View 'DevCPP')

Actually, the expression "It's Greek to me" refers to the fact that the
Greek alphabet is unreadable to the poor souls who were brought up with the
Latin alphabet.  Basically, it means that the subject matter is so
technical, abstruse or esoteric that the reader cannot understand it, and
so it might just as well be written in Greek for all the good it does him
or her.  Yes, it probably is an American expression, but no, I don't think
any ethnic slur is intended by it.

Don




"Ioannis Vranos" <no...@ya...>@lists.sourceforge.net on 10/19/2000
03:26:54 PM

Please respond to dev...@li...

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-----Original Message-----
From:  dev...@li... [
mailto:dev...@li...]On  Behalf Of Matthew
Hickson
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 11:59 PM
To:  dev...@li...
Subject: Re: Programming Tomes was  [Dev-C++] Question of the day


Hello,
    Yes you  are right, I checked my book again, \a and \b are very close
together, it was my  mistake. I am using the book Object-Oriented
Programming in C++ Second Edition,  it's quite old (Copyright 1995) I got
it for $9 at a used bookstore : )
I  love those kind! 8-)

I pick up just about everything I find.  I  figure, some are good, some are
definitely not; however, they all look at things  from different
perspectives, and sometimes something that's greek in one book is  clear as
day in another.  (Even if some of those books start to look a  little long
in the tooth!)

Now i am a greek, and i do not  understand the meaning of that expression,
but i guess it is some american  smart-ass-i-know-all expression. :)



Recently (on another list) a war started over the value of books (ie. the
21 Days compared to college / university texts).  I agree that some of the
21 Day/Dummies/Idiot's guides are surface material, I find them helpful
when I  want to check out a topic.  I then start to delve a little deeper,
and then  I look for resources online (about language style, the ins and
outs of a  language, etc.).

Speaking of which, does anybody have any good links to  C++ related
material?  Particularly good object-oriented source...   I've poked around,
but most of what I find seems to relate to DOS level C  graphics/demo
programming.

Except of links i suggest Bjarne  Stroustrup's "The C++ Programming
Language" - Special Edition, that's what i am  reading currently. This,
assuming you have already read some good introductory  book in C++ (e.g.
"Teach Yourself C++ in 21 Days" by Jesse Liberty, Sams  Publishing).

My background is rather VB, and sources that I've found nice are things
like  www.planetsourcecode.com
(They've got some stuff for other languages, but  nothing "meaty" ... for
an example, check out the Delphi section!)

I have some links at: http://members.nbci.com/noicys/links.htm

Ioannis

-----Original Message-----
From: dev...@li...
[mailto:dev...@li...]On Behalf Of Matthew
Hickson
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 11:59 PM
To: dev...@li...
Subject: Re: Programming Tomes was [Dev-C++] Question of the day


Hello,
    Yes you are right, I checked my book again, \a and \b are very close
together, it was my mistake. I am using the book Object-Oriented Programming
in C++ Second Edition, it's quite old (Copyright 1995) I got it for $9 at a
used bookstore : )
I love those kind! 8-)

I pick up just about everything I find.  I figure, some are good, some are
definitely not; however, they all look at things from different
perspectives, and sometimes something that's greek in one book is clear as
day in another.  (Even if some of those books start to look a little long in
the tooth!)


Now i am a greek, and i do not understand the meaning of that expression,
but i guess it is some american smart-ass-i-know-all expression. :)

Recently (on another list) a war started over the value of books (ie. the 21
Days compared to college / university texts).  I agree that some of the 21
Day/Dummies/Idiot's guides are surface material, I find them helpful when I
want to check out a topic.  I then start to delve a little deeper, and then
I look for resources online (about language style, the ins and outs of a
language, etc.).

Speaking of which, does anybody have any good links to C++ related material?
Particularly good object-oriented source...  I've poked around, but most of
what I find seems to relate to DOS level C graphics/demo programming.


Except of links i suggest Bjarne Stroustrup's "The C++ Programming
Language" - Special Edition, that's what i am reading currently. This,
assuming you have already read some good introductory book in C++ (e.g.
"Teach Yourself C++ in 21 Days" by Jesse Liberty, Sams Publishing).

My background is rather VB, and sources that I've found nice are things like
www.planetsourcecode.com
(They've got some stuff for other languages, but nothing "meaty" ... for an
example, check out the Delphi section!)


I have some links at: http://members.nbci.com/noicys/links.htm

Ioannis

    Have you tried http://www.devx.com some of their C++ articles are =
very good, also http://www.codeproject.com http://www.codeguru.com =
http://www.programmersheaven.com
and finally http://www.relisoft.com. Codeguru and CodeProject mostly =
focus on Windows Programming, programmersheaven is a good place to find =
other sites, and relisoft has good tutorials on Windows Programming and =
OOP. All of the sites have a good amount of example code. Hope that =
helps (I got a couple more if you want).
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Matthew Hickson=20
  To: dev...@li...=20
  Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 2:58 PM
  Subject: Re: Programming Tomes was [Dev-C++] Question of the day


  Hello,
        Yes you are right, I checked my book again, \a and \b are very =
close together, it was my mistake. I am using the book Object-Oriented =
Programming in C++ Second Edition, it's quite old (Copyright 1995) I got =
it for $9 at a used bookstore : )
  I love those kind! 8-)

  I pick up just about everything I find.  I figure, some are good, some =
are definitely not; however, they all look at things from different =
perspectives, and sometimes something that's greek in one book is clear =
as day in another.  (Even if some of those books start to look a little =
long in the tooth!)

  Recently (on another list) a war started over the value of books (ie. =
the 21 Days compared to college / university texts).  I agree that some =
of the 21 Day/Dummies/Idiot's guides are surface material, I find them =
helpful when I want to check out a topic.  I then start to delve a =
little deeper, and then I look for resources online (about language =
style, the ins and outs of a language, etc.).

  Speaking of which, does anybody have any good links to C++ related =
material?  Particularly good object-oriented source...  I've poked =
around, but most of what I find seems to relate to DOS level C =
graphics/demo programming. =20
  =20
  My background is rather VB, and sources that I've found nice are =
things like www.planetsourcecode.com
  (They've got some stuff for other languages, but nothing "meaty" ... =
for an example, check out the Delphi section!)

  Matthew Hickson


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On 18 Oct 00, at 17:58, Matthew Hickson wrote:

> Hello,

Yello 'gain.

>       Yes you are right, I checked my book again, \a and \b are very close together, it was my
mistake. I am using the book Object-Oriented Programming in C++ Second Edition, it's quite old
(Copyright 1995) I got it for $9 at a used bookstore : )
> I love those kind! 8-)

As does everyone else :)

> I pick up just about everything I find.  I figure, some are good, some are definitely not;
however, they all look at things from different perspectives, and sometimes something that's
greek in one book is clear as day in another.  (Even if some of those books start to look a
little long in the tooth!)

I agree - I have a tonne of books for operating systems and language 
combinations that I'll never use in my lifetime. However, the 
concepts and techniques used in them are always helpful (usually, in 
most hard-core language books, there will be always functions for 
basic encryption, etc).

> Recently (on another list) a war started over the value of books (ie. the 21 Days compared to
college / university texts).  I agree that some of the 21 Day/Dummies/Idiot's guides are surface
material, I find them helpful when I want to check out a topic.  I then start to delve a little
deeper, and then I look for resources online (about language style, the ins and outs of a
language, etc.).

That is what I do. From various people (relatives, fellow students) I 
have a number of those 21 days books. Personally, sliding into C/C++ 
was a breeze using an e-copy of C++ in 21 days. (I had a mainly Java, 
BASIC and Pascal background.)

I believe that one should get one of those books if one is a relative 
newbie to that area. Going directly to online resources is okay for 
some, but you end up getting swamped with information and documents 
that you don't need and potentially will never use.

> Speaking of which, does anybody have any good links to C++ related material?  Particularly
good object-oriented source...  I've poked around, but most of what I find seems to relate to
DOS level C graphics/demo programming.  

Umm... you could try www.objectcentral.com and perhaps 
www.cprogramming.com

www.vitaminc.com ? I can't remember the address of that one. 
Unfortunately, the university rendered all bookmarks redundant and 
therefore I can no longer access the hoard of links that I once had.

> My background is rather VB, and sources that I've found nice are things like
www.planetsourcecode.com

I'll be sure to try it.

> (They've got some stuff for other languages, but nothing "meaty" ... for an example, check out
the Delphi section!)

You find that a lot... and I hate sites which have trillions of 
links, and only a handful which actually work. If someone is going to 
put effort into a site, they should at least attempt to check all 
sites within a suitable period (e.g. once a month).

Places like www.progsharehouse.com (? - Sorry if the link is dead) 
are very much like that, unfortunately.

Ian

Hello,
      Yes you are right, I checked my book again, \a and \b are very =
close together, it was my mistake. I am using the book Object-Oriented =
Programming in C++ Second Edition, it's quite old (Copyright 1995) I got =
it for $9 at a used bookstore : )
I love those kind! 8-)

I pick up just about everything I find.  I figure, some are good, some =
are definitely not; however, they all look at things from different =
perspectives, and sometimes something that's greek in one book is clear =
as day in another.  (Even if some of those books start to look a little =
long in the tooth!)

Recently (on another list) a war started over the value of books (ie. =
the 21 Days compared to college / university texts).  I agree that some =
of the 21 Day/Dummies/Idiot's guides are surface material, I find them =
helpful when I want to check out a topic.  I then start to delve a =
little deeper, and then I look for resources online (about language =
style, the ins and outs of a language, etc.).

Speaking of which, does anybody have any good links to C++ related =
material?  Particularly good object-oriented source...  I've poked =
around, but most of what I find seems to relate to DOS level C =
graphics/demo programming. =20

My background is rather VB, and sources that I've found nice are things =
like www.planetsourcecode.com
(They've got some stuff for other languages, but nothing "meaty" ... for =
an example, check out the Delphi section!)

Matthew Hickson

Hello Ian (and Colin from a previous post),

Thanks for the responses.

> > Does Dev-C++ 4.0 (I'm using 3.95) have customizable tools?  For example,
if
>
> Editor: Yes. I do that now.
> Class Generation: Yep.
> Midi file: Only if you executed it via a multimedia program. I don't
> believe you could directly access the file.
>

So it's all there then.  That'll teach me to be cheap with download time!
8-)
(BTW, It's coming down as we speak.)

> > [hey!  How about user-definable templates for classes, header files,
etc.!
> > 8-)].
>
> I believe some of that is implemented. If anyone wants to see what

Snazzy!

Thanks again guys,

Matthew Hickson