User talk:Koavf

Welcome

Hello Koavf and welcome to the Outreach Wiki!

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Warmly, Anna Koval (WMF) (talk) 21:37, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar

Dear Koavf, I'm sad that in 7 years no one has welcomed you to this wiki or posted a kind word on your talk page. Happily and humbly, I am proud to be the first. :) It's a privilege to acknowledge your 1.5+ million contributions to free knowledge. And it's a privilege to work with you here on Outreach wiki. Thank you, Koavf, for everything you do for the movement, for this project, and for our Outreach community. Very sincerely yours, Anna Koval (WMF) (talk) 21:42, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for sharing this article

Dear Koavf,

I just wanted to thank you for sharing this article on your English Wikipedia user page.

"You Don't Know It, But You're Working for Facebook. For Free." --The Washington Post

It was a really good read, and I might have missed it otherwise.

Take care, Anna Koval (WMF) (talk) 21:52, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

@AKoval (WMF): Thanks for your kind words and all that you do for the w:Wikimedia movement. Please let me know how I can help you. Koavf (talk) 23:59, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello Wikimother

@Koavf: Can you help to show me how to create notification pop-ups. I want to start a something like (The Wikipedia Adventure) on All4One Wikia for our new comers/users. Thanks!

Ras Benjih/^RasTalk 07:50, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

@Ras Benjih: I am simply too busy at the moment to commit myself to your project. I wish you the best though and appreciate you reaching out to me. Koavf (talk) 23:55, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

I have some anxiety not knowing the affect of my article deletion. No comments made.--Fujifil (talk) 01:35, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Marking for translation

Hi, I looked everywhere, IRC included, but no one seems to know the answer. I would like to mark Education/Ideal workshop/pl for translation, but apparently the system automagically interprets all pages marked for translation as English, regardless of the actual language they are written in. Do you know if there is a chance to mark the language the page is in? Partial translation is already available at Education/Ideal workshop, but it would be easier to mark the Polish language page as the main blueprint, and copy the English paragraphs one by one. That way I would also have a reminder what parts of the translation are still missing. Halibutt (talk) 08:13, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

@Halibutt: I think the problem is that you are trying to translate from a subpage up higher in the hierarchy. Have you checked mw:Extension:Translate? It also has help pages and an IRC chat. If that's not helpful, please let me know and I will do some more digging myself. Koavf (talk) 15:04, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, I tried the documentation (though it's really lengthy and I might have missed the solution there), I asked at IRC channels of mediawiki and at #mediawiki-i18n, to no avail. Also, moving the page one notch up the hierarchy doesn't do the trick either: Education/Warsztat idealny. Any help would be appreciated. Unless of course the developers did not think of such situation, which is also entirely possible... Halibutt (talk) 23:31, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

Hmmm, it seems there is no way to solve this. Filed it as a bug (T145039). For now I'd have to simply translate the document by hand and treat the English version as if it was an original. Halibutt (talk) 23:49, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

@Halibutt: Frustrating. Let me know if anything interesting happens on that bug. Koavf (talk) 01:02, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

It seems the matter is somehow easy to fix, but we'd need additional code enabled for that, and there's no ETA as far as I can tell. Anyway, the fix consists of a way to select the default page language on a page by page basis. I'll keep you updated. Halibutt (talk) 08:58, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

It works! Halibutt (talk) 22:00, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

@Halibutt: Nice. Koavf (talk) 22:14, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

please help

Hi! Please help for this NehalDaveND (talk) 12:48, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Admin Rights

On March 28, I applied to become admin and have not come objections. You could assign me the flag. Thansk and regards. --Samuele2002 (talk) 15:33, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Request

Hi, we apologize for you bother again, I also request the translation administrator permission in the RfP page, I think my English confused a bit and not dresses. Regards. —Alvaro Molina (✉ - ✔) 05:52, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Request

Hi Koavf, Would like to keep the Sysop rights with me, will utilize the sysop facilites soon on Outreach, whenever there is a necessity. Thanks. --Dineshkumar Ponnusamy (talk) 21:43, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

@Dineshkumar Ponnusamy: Okay. Please post to your talk as well--I will review them in a month. Thanks. Koavf (talk) 21:49, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Sysop rights

Hi Koavf, Thank you for letting me know! I would love to maintain this rights and hope to keep my contributions active. Thank you.--Awinda (talk) 15:22, 13 August 2017 (MST)

@Awinda: Sure. Please post to your talk page with {{Ping}} so I can see this request in one month when I am doing the actual changes. Koavf (talk) 22:23, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

+1, and "ping" already done. --Wikinade (talk) 09:28, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Sysop rights

Honestly saying I even didn't know I have sysop here ;-) I never requested it, nor I used it. For sure, I don't need it. Polimerek (talk) 09:42, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

@Polimerek: Thanks. Koavf (talk) 16:12, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Where can I help?

Hello. Sorry to bother while you are busy doing heavy maintenance work. I have been keeping track of recent changes to see where I might be able to help this project, and nothing really came up. I have time to and interest in contributing to the maintenance of this project, so do you happen to know where I might be helpful? Thanks. --Joalpe (talk) 00:14, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

@Joalpe: That's not a bother. You can always check Special:SpecialPages and go from the maintenance reports if you'd like. Koavf (talk) 01:16, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi. I have just done some cleaning of a messy sequence of nonsensical edits an editor did, but I was unable to delete Topic on User talk:Doop family music. Could you please help out? Thanks! --Joalpe (talk) 01:54, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

@Joalpe: I undeleted the page and then deleted the individual topic and then deleted the user page again. Koavf (talk) 02:04, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

The topic is still in blue (and it is still readable) --will it remain like this? --Joalpe (talk) 03:38, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

@Joalpe: Yes, unless an Oversighter uses the Suppression right. There are none local to this wiki, so you'd have to request suppression on Meta. Koavf (talk) 04:56, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

• @Joalpe: Wikimedia:Village_pump#Advanced_advanced_user_rights Koavf (talk) 05:18, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Admin rights

Hi Koavf. Just writing to let you know I have posted a request for permanent admin rights on this project. You granted me these rights temporarily a couple of months ago. At that time, you mentioned I should get in touch with you if I wanted to make such request. Thanks, --Joalpe (talk) 02:10, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Request for Sysop

Dear :@Koavf: Can i get Sysop right in outreach.wikimedia.org ? Thanks Mohammed Galib Hasan (talk) 17:06, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

@Mohammed Galib Hasan: Wikimedia:Requests for permissions. Koavf (talk) 17:34, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Dear :@Koavf: request done here . Thanks Mohammed Galib Hasan (talk) 12:21, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you!

how do I become a 'confirmed' translator/admin, doing zh <-> en for wiki? I was born in Shanghai and now reside in Princeton U.S.A. any advice would be appreciated! Allthingsgo (talk) 16:16, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

@Allthingsgo: Thanks for the berries! Giving out user rights on this wiki is generally relaxed. Please post to Wikimedia:Requests_for_permissions. Koavf (talk) 16:57, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Help with a template

Hi Koavf, I am hoping that you can take a look at Template:NavWiki/Navbar for me. The navbar has the appearance that I want on the template page, but when I view pages which are linked from the navbar and have the navbar on them, such as NavWiki/Additional Materials and NavWiki/Archives, the padding or margin effects for the selected page cause icons or text to move in the navbar. Do you know what might be causing this effect? I would like to cancel the effect. Thanks, ↠Pine (✉) 21:39, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

@Pine: Wow. Well, a few things are happening here: one is that you have a table with a lot of ​div​s in it: these are elements that are liable to create a new block that will have some formatting or wrapping issues that (e.g.) ​span​ doesn't. I tried just swapping one for the other and that didn't do the trick. Still tinkering there. Another is that you have a lot of ​font​, which is a deprecated tag that should really be replaced with CSS in ​span​s. Let me tool around a little bit more so I can get the behavior that you're looking to have. (Somehow, it seems just fine on NavWiki/Additional Materials at the moment but has some wonky alignment on NavWiki/Archives and I have no clue how that is even possible.) Koavf (talk) 23:10, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Hm. So it looks like (see below) that when you have a link, there is only one ​p​ but in the examples where the page is already chosen, there are two ​p​s. I'm not sure how to fix this: if you have two paragraphs, it's going to have some kind of effect on the page... Koavf (talk) 23:16, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Quick dump of HTML to review

Snippet from NavWiki/Newsletters:

<td><div style="-moz-border-radius: 10px; -webkit-border-radius: 10px; border-radius: 10px;; width: 84px; height: 105px; text-align: center; margin-right: 4px; border: 1px solid #DDDDDD; background-color: #FFFFFF; background-image: -webkit-gradient(linear, left top, left bottom, from(#FFFFFF), to(#F2F3F4)); background-image: -moz-linear-gradient(top, #FFFFFF, #F2F3F4); background-image: -ms-linear-gradient(top, #FFFFFF, #F2F3F4); background-image: -o-linear-gradient(top, #FFFFFF, #F2F3F4); background-image: -webkit-linear-gradient(top, #FFFFFF, #F2F3F4); background-image: linear-gradient(top, #FFFFFF, #F2F3F4);">
<p><b><a href="/https/outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/NavWiki/In_Development" title="NavWiki/In Development"><font color="#000000"></font></a></b></p><div style="padding-bottom: 2px;"><b><a href="/https/outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/NavWiki/In_Development" title="NavWiki/In Development"><font color="#000000">In<br />Development</font></a></b></div>
<a href="/https/outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/NavWiki/In_Development" title="NavWiki/In Development"><img alt="Gnome-applications-science.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2e/Gnome-applications-science.svg/50px-Gnome-applications-science.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2e/Gnome-applications-science.svg/75px-Gnome-applications-science.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2e/Gnome-applications-science.svg/100px-Gnome-applications-science.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48" /></a>
<p class="mw-empty-elt"></p>
</div>
</td>
<td><div style="-moz-border-radius: 10px; -webkit-border-radius: 10px; border-radius: 10px;; width: 70px; height: 105px; text-align: center; margin-right: 4px; border: 1px solid #DDDDDD; background-color: #FFFFFF; background-image: -webkit-gradient(linear, left top, left bottom, from(#FFFFFF), to(#F2F3F4)); background-image: -moz-linear-gradient(top, #FFFFFF, #F2F3F4); background-image: -ms-linear-gradient(top, #FFFFFF, #F2F3F4); background-image: -o-linear-gradient(top, #FFFFFF, #F2F3F4); background-image: -webkit-linear-gradient(top, #FFFFFF, #F2F3F4); background-image: linear-gradient(top, #FFFFFF, #F2F3F4);">
<b><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><font color="#000000"><div style="padding-top: 1em; padding-bottom: 2px">Newsletters</div></font></a></b>
<p><a href="/https/outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/NavWiki/Newsletters" title="NavWiki/Newsletters"><img alt="Shadowsocks logo.png" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8d/Shadowsocks_logo.png/50px-Shadowsocks_logo.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8d/Shadowsocks_logo.png/75px-Shadowsocks_logo.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8d/Shadowsocks_logo.png/100px-Shadowsocks_logo.png 2x" data-file-width="185" data-file-height="185" /></a>
</p>
</div>
</td>

I'm wondering if I've hit a bug in MediaWiki. Have a look at these diffs. The top padding shouldn't be having such a significant effect on the placement of the icon.

• First, I removed the navbar to make sure that the problem isn't attributable to the navbar. https://outreach.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=NavWiki/Archives&diff=205555&oldid=205554&diffmode=source
• Then I changed the top padding to be 0px for the icon. https://outreach.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=NavWiki/Archives&diff=next&oldid=205555&diffmode=source
• Then I changed the top padding to be 1px for the icon. https://outreach.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=NavWiki/Archives&diff=next&oldid=205556&diffmode=source
• Then I gave up and re-added the navbar. https://outreach.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=NavWiki/Archives&diff=next&oldid=205557&diffmode=source

What do you think? ↠Pine (✉) 07:30, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

@Pine: Seems like a bug in the software, yes. Koavf (talk) 21:54, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi

Hi Koavf,

Just in case you are interested I would like to bring Covering Kids and Families of Indiana to your attention. If this is not the right wiki, please let me know for future postings. Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 16:14, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

@Ottawahitech: You can post to any of my talk pages and I'll see it but I don't know what you're trying to tell me. Koavf (talk) 05:50, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for pinging me. It is good to know you closely watch all your talkpages, something I haven't figured out yet how to do efficiently. Just wondering if this a wiki-trick you may want to educate others about. As far as the Indiana organization, your page says that you are a hoosier, so I thought you may have heard about it? Ottawahitech (talk) 14:58, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

@Ottawahitech: I just have all my user preferences on all WMF wikis to email me when there are changes to my watchlist. Frustrating but it doesn't do this for minor edits, so I still manually check. I am a Hoosier but I just don't know what Covering Kids and Families of Indiana is. I took a look via DuckDuckGo, so thanks for the heads up. Koavf (talk) 19:00, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

w: Patient navigators may explain what Covering Kids and Families of Indiana is about (introduction to Obamacare). Ottawahitech (talk) 11:00, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Blocked on m:

@Defender:, I have been caught in several rangeblocks that stop me from editing m: lately (including my talk page!). Somehow, I am not IP block exempt, tho I thought I was. Please give me that user right on that wiki. Thanks. Koavf (talk) 07:58, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Request

Hello sir. I requested for translation admin in this wiki because i need this. Please see my request details at here-https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Requests_for_permissions#[Translation_admin]_rights_request_for_Tanbirzx. Tanbirzx (talk)

@Koavf: sorry i thought you maybe forgot my request. If you have some time then check my answers. Thank you. Tanbirzx

TA removal

Hello Koavf, kindly remove translation admin right from User:MCruz (WMF) & User:Cornelius Kibelka (WMDE). Both are locked accounts. Thanks in advance. Minorax (talk) 11:31, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Done. Thanks! Koavf (talk) 14:10, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Deceased wikimedians

Hi Koavf, Should the wmf have a coordinated approach about obituaries for users who contributed to the movement? I have been trying unsuccessfully to raise this issue before. With COVID claiming so many lives I have moved this up my priority list.

I am writing to yu because earlier today I was following some inks from your userpage and found the page of User:Cindamuse. I know that this user, whom I have had a brief communication with in my early days on enwiki, had passed away (I found this out years after she died). I also know that enwiki has a page for deceased wikipedians (w:Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians )) which I just checked and was shocked to see how many of the usernames on that page I recognize.

(BTW doesn't the existence of the page above contravene the w:Wikipedia:NOTSOCIALNETWORK ?)

It occurred to me that due to the COVID situation the wikimedia movement should have a policy that spans all wmf-wikis, all topics and all languages, so that pages such as w:Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians is also available to other wikimedians who may not be active on enwiki.

Before I spend too much time and effort developing this thought on this wiki which may/may not be destined to the dustbin (looks like my contributions to this discussion of a coupe of day ago have already gone to the dusbin?) (updated by Ottawahitech (talk) 14:13, 23 December 2021 (UTC))) I better check that:

• You are still active here?
• This topic is not taboo on this wiki

Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 16:04, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

@Ottawahitech: I am active and I don't think it's taboo or otherwise inappropriate to ask the question. I do think that it's better asked at m:, since that is a meta-question. I'm in favor of some kind of unified policy for locking accounts or having a standardized banner for user account pages because that would aid in collaboration (as does the page on deceased Wikipedians), but I'm not sure that a common policy on writing obituaries is really needed. Koavf (talk) 17:50, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

re: I do think that it's better asked at m: Well I guess that rules out my participation since, as you know, I am blocked on Meta. Cheers, Ottawahitech (talk) 14:01, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

How we will see unregistered users

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18:18, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you for helping new wikipedian's get familiar with Wikimedia terms. Amiratohamy (talk) 19:36, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

@Amiratohamy: How kind: thanks. Koavf (talk) 19:37, 26 April 2022 (UTC)