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Deutsche Synchronkartei film ID
identifier for films in the synchronisation database Deutsche Synchronkartei

Associated item	Deutsche Synchronkartei (Q1204237)
Applicable "stated in" value	Deutsche Synchronkartei (Q1204237)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	According to this template: movies in German synchronized in the database According to statements in the property: film (Q11424) or dubbing of film (Q26204053) When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed values	\d{1,5}
Example	The Intouchables (Q595) → 20916 V for Vendetta (Q5890) → 8795
Source	https://www.synchronkartei.de/
Formatter URL	https://www.synchronkartei.de/film/$1
Related to country	Germany (Q183) (See 360 others)
See also	Deutsche Synchronkartei actor ID (P4332), Deutsche Synchronkartei dubbing voice actor ID (P4727), Deutsche Synchronkartei series ID (P4834)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties Items with no other external identifier Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Mix'n'match (Report) Database reports/Constraint violations/P3844 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 29,557 Main statement 29,531 out of 42,256 (70% complete) >99.9% of uses Qualifier 2 <0.1% of uses Reference 24 <0.1% of uses
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Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3844#Unique value, hourly updated report, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)

Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3844#Single value, SPARQL

Format “\d{1,5}”: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3844#Format, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Type “film (Q11424), dubbing of film (Q26204053)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “film (Q11424), dubbing of film (Q26204053)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3844#Type Q11424, Q26204053, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Conflicts with “instance of (P31): human (Q5)”: this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3844#Conflicts with P31, hourly updated report, search, SPARQL

Conflicts with “instance of (P31): Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410), Wikimedia category (Q4167836), Wikimedia project page (Q14204246), Wikimedia template (Q11266439)”: this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3844#Conflicts with P31, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Conflicts with “Deutsche Synchronkartei series ID (P4834)”: this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3844#Conflicts with P4834, search, SPARQL

Qualifiers “distribution format (P437), publication date (P577), series ordinal (P1545), reason for deprecated rank (P2241), reason for preferred rank (P7452), subject named as (P1810), edition/version (P9767)”: this property should be used only with the listed qualifiers. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3844#allowed qualifiers, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3844#Entity types

Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3844#Scope, SPARQL

Label required in languages: de: Entities using this property should have labels in one of the following languages: de (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3844#Label in 'de' language, search, SPARQL

This property is being used by: de:Vorlage:Filmdaten, de:Vorlage:Filmdaten/1 Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Discussion

Dubbings of film with own WD-Item

I propose to expand the domain of this property by dubbing of film (Q26204053):
The Deutsche Synchronkartei (Q1204237) is actually not a database of films, but of dubbing of film (Q26204053). I know that most dubbings of films don't have their own item (and probably never will have) and for those it should be ok to add this identifier to the work for pragmatic reasons. But there exist items for dubbings (e.g. 101 Dalmatiner (Q27148028)) and 101 Dalmatiner (Q27148283)) and I think in those cases this identifier should be used for the dubbing - especially as there can exist more than one German dubbing for one film. -- Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 09:25, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

I extended the domain. --Pasleim (talk) 11:16, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

@Valentina.Anitnelav, Pasleim: Should the ID be removed from the film, if an dubbing of film (Q26204053) of the film exists? Otherwise an exception for duplicates based on the type dubbing of film (Q26204053) would be perfect, though I don't know if something like this is possible?!--CENNOXX (talk) 07:50, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

I would tend to remove it from the film (but if somebody prefers to keep it on both I would not mind either). - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 09:32, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Multiple Dubbing-Versions vs. Single Value Constraint

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There are many films with multiple dubbing versions (for example https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q232227#P3844) because one is for television, the other for the cinema, sometimes because of the rights or you can't find out why there are two or more versions. The Deutsche Synchronkartei (Q1204237) marks them with version and states when they were created. I would add a qualifier publication date (P577), which distinguishes the items from each other, if nobody has anything against it?--CENNOXX (talk) 07:50, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

So sometimes, there is only the comment 1. version or 2. version, so the publishing date isn't given every time.--CENNOXX (talk) 08:18, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

@CennoxX: Another interesting property that can be used is distribution format (P437). Escudero (talk) 09:25, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

I have now added some separator (P4155).--CENNOXX (talk) 10:55, 1 September 2018 (UTC)