Wikitech-l August 2004

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machine translaton of the articles...
by prasad gadgil 20 Nov '05

20 Nov '05

Hi, I have just joined, I am from mumbai, india. I would like to get the articles translated in marathi, my mother tongue. Looking at the effort and no of volunteers, this will not be usable in any reasonable amount of time. That has made me think of alternatives - machine translation. A state funded institute has a software available but I don't have access to it yet. Pl. comment about this approach. Has this been tried for any other language earlier. Thanks & regards, Prasad Gadgil ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony

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Time to get some new servers
by Camille Constans 04 Jul '05

04 Jul '05

Hello, As wikipedia is slow at the busy time, I propose to get some new servers for our cluster. - Some new web servers(3 or 4), P4 2,8Ghz with 2Go of RAM - A server which could be a backup for nfs server, zwinger, with bigger disk, 80Go is very low, maybe 200 or 250Go - Upgrading disk of zwinger to 200 or 250Go (or add a new one) - A db server in 64 bits mode with 4Go of RAM (if we cant make working geoffrin), like this one : http://www.macomp.com/products/servers/patriot2200.asp With raid 10 disk system, 4 or 6 drives in raid and 1 stand-by. I prefer 15000rpm disk, but I can understand that they are more expensive - Maybe another squid server What do you think of that ? Shaihulud

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Klingon resurrected
by Tim Starling 18 Sep '04

18 Sep '04

Firstly, I'm disappointed Erik chose to characterise my stated motivation as "false pretenses", as if I had some kind of bias towards Klingon and I deliberately tried to mislead the list. I mistakenly created Klingon, I did not try to pull a swiftie on the Wikimedia community. I hope that Erik's choice of words was in error. Jimbo issued one statement against Klingon and one statement in favour of Klingon. His opinion was thus sufficiently ambiguous that my pretext was removed. However he later clarified his position by withdrawing his initial statement -- both on wikitech-l and on #wikipedia. I would have been happy to re-enable the wiki as soon as he did this, however he asked me to wait for the discussion to pan out. The compromise agreed to by Erik and Timwi is to allow the Klingon Wikipedia, but to avoid interlanguage links. Accordingly, I have commented out the Klingon entry in $wgLanguageNames. This means that markup of the form [[tlh:wIqIpe'DIya]] will create an external link rather than an interlanguage link, just like links to meta or sep11. Otherwise the wiki is fully functional. http://tlh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page -- Tim Starling

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better search engine for MediaWiki?
by Kurt Jansson 14 Sep '04

14 Sep '04

[[de:Benutzer:Joma]] has written a fast search engine for a Wikipedia mirror which can handle complex search queries. He emphasises that it's meant as a supplement to an existing SQL database, not a replacement. He is willing to put the code under GPL if we are interested. I think this might be useful for us, could one of the German speaking developers please take a look at http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Diskussion:Projekte%2C_die_Wikipedia… and - if we want to give it a try - get in contact with Joma? Kurt -- http://leihnetzwerk.de -- Teile Bücher, Videos und CDs mit anderen! http://wikipedia.de -- Arbeite mit bei der freien Enzyklopädie! Kurt Jansson, Wiener Str. 7, 10999 Berlin, http://jansson.de

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Capitalisation off for nl:wiktionary
by Gerard Meijssen 05 Sep '04

05 Sep '04

Some time ago, I requested to turn off the capitalisation for nk:wiktionary. From things that I read on the en:wiktionary I was led to believe that for a sysop it is an easy little time consuming manipulation. The big thing is to get things right afterward. Can someone please turn the capitalisation off. The longer the wait the more there is to fix. Thanks, GerardM

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New MediaWiki documentation effort
by erik_moeller＠gmx.de 02 Sep '04

02 Sep '04

-> PLEASE TRANSLATE THIS MESSAGE INTO YOUR LANGUAGE AND SEND A COPY TO YOUR LOCAL PROJECT MAILING LIST. THANK YOU! MediaWiki is a great software package, but in one department it is lacking: documentation. In spite of the collaborative power of wiki, so far there exists no single user documentation. Instead, each project maintains its own fork, and the Meta pages are one big mess (although the English documentation has become a bit better with the introduction of the Help: namespace). I have just taken live some code changes which allow us to finally systematically document MediaWiki. I have added code to allow custom namespaces, so that any wiki can have any number of namespaces beyond the ordinary ones. Using this, I have then created namespaces in the largest languages (for which I had translations of "Help" and "Help talk") on http://meta.wikimedia.org . See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents for a list of available namespaces. That means you can now edit Hilfe:Inhalt or Aide:Aide like the English users have been editing Help:Contents. Why is that important? Because it allows us to easily export all the help files in one language, and import them into another wiki. Any wiki may want to make custom changes to the help pages. This is best done using custom header and footer templates. Interlanguage links should also be passed to a template as a parameter, so that users who only import one translation can hide them easily (by removing the parameter). I have laid out some basic editorial guidelines for working on pages in the Help: namespace of your language: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents This also includes a modified Template:Hc which shows how interlanguage links can work. The gist of it is that we must make sure that the pages in the namespace can be imported by *any project*, Wikimedia or not, without changes (except to a handful of templates). Once the pages have stabilized, we should clean out the Help: namespaces of all Wikimedia projects and import the meta pages instead. We can then upgrade them regularly (even daily) and automatically on all wikis. The project namespace ("Wikipedia:", "Wikisource:" etc.) should then be used strictly for policy. I propose that the Help: namespace be used both for user and administration documentation (installation guidelines etc.), so we can move towards a single neatly integrated handbook. I invite all interested parties to participate in consolidating our documentation. Regards, Erik

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new sister project (off of home page)
by Edward Peschko 01 Sep '04

01 Sep '04

hey all, If I wanted to get a new sister project started off of the home page, who would I talk to? What would I do? The project I have in mind doesn't exactly fit any of the categories listed, yet I feel it would be a useful addition. so - do I write a proposal? Discuss it on this mailing list? Go through meta-wiki? Or some other method? Thanks, Ed

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bugs: after actions such as "E-mail this user" : wiki should return to last relevant page, not to Main_Page
by Thomas Gries 31 Aug '04

31 Aug '04

similar bug as in "watch this page" (this being now solved in 1.3.2): (1) * Situation: being on a page of user X * after having sent an "E-Mail this user" an acknowledgment page appears and returns to Main_page * However, it is proposed to automatically return to last relevant page (i.e. the page of User_X) instead (2) * After deleting a page (as Admin), the wiki returns to the Main_Page * It is suggested to return to the previous relevant page (in this case, the page visited _before_ the now-deleted page)

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questions on mediawiki features
by Edward Peschko 31 Aug '04

31 Aug '04

hey all, iI was wondering if anyone was working on the following features for mediawiki. Or if they existed already, and I don't know about them: 1) ability to upload a gnuplot data file, and have it turn into an associated PNG graph inside mediawiki. 2) ability to do polling/data collection based off of IP. If nobody is working on these, I'd like to add them. It would also be cool to add an integrated mailing list creator for projects through interface to majordomo, although I'm a little bit hazy on implementation of this one. Ed ( ps - for images, how does mediawiki get around the inode limit? I noticed in the LocalSettings.php that there was a directory for images, but I'd think that images/files being stuffed into one directory would ultimately be cause for trouble.. )

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Questions: How to bulk-copy/clone MediaWiki:namespace pages from Wiki A to Wiki B (same server)
by Thomas Gries 31 Aug '04

31 Aug '04

(1) Is there a simple way to bulk copy (clone) the whole MediaWiki:namespace from one wiki to another wiki (on the same server) ? (2) Is there a simply way to extract let's say five MediaWiki:pages so that I can put it together with a patch into the CVS ? In my case, the coming e-mail notification patch for 1.3.2 (see my recent (pre)documentation pages on the MetaWiki) uses a couple of MediaWiki:namespace pages for composing the notification mails and other purposes and I want to publish these important pages together with the program patch in one "package". But I don't know, how. Tom

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