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I responded:
"My apologies on behalf of Wikipedia and Wikimedia! I've emailed to
wikien-l and commons-l about this post, asking for suggestions on how
we can do better on this sort of thing. There's an editorial habit on
English Wikipedia of not putting attributions on photos in the
articles themselves, leaving that to the image page ... I think that's
a matter for discussion as well."
I think we have to do better on this, at least in some way. The image
page needs a BIG OBVIOUS CC notice. Many do, but some don't.
- d.
"K P" wrote
> And when good copy
> editors come in, and start making articles more direct, and generally
> improving how things are said, they get pounced upon, and the're out
> of here in nothing flat.
Examples? This is totally at variance with my experience.
Charles
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On 29 Aug 2007 at 19:20:58 +0200, Adrian <aldebaer(a)googlemail.com>
wrote:
> To abuse the words of Tom Lehrer: "The reason most folk songs are so
> atrocious is that they were written by the people."
I've long felt that what's wrong with the Wikipedia project is that
there are humans involved in it. Homo Sapiens is quite a nasty,
brutal species. The project would be much more pleasant without
them.
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On 29 Aug 2007 at 08:08:30 -0400, Marc Riddell
<michaeldavid86(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> "Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it
> takes to sit down and listen."
>
> "Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfils the same
> function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state
> of things."
>
> Winston Churchill
"There are all kinds of courage," said Dumbledore, smiling. "It
takes a great deal of bravery to stand up to our enemies, but just as
much to stand up to our friends."
J.K. Rowling, Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone
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On 29 Aug 2007 at 10:58:53 -0600, Bryan Derksen
<bryan.derksen(a)shaw.ca> wrote:
> I just hit "random page" ten times. I got articles about:
When I tried it myself, I got:
* A railway station in Scotland (not the one that was the 1,000,000th
article; this one was closed to passengers in 1966)
* A Brazilian soccer (football) player
* A species of bird, found in Brazil among other places (maybe the
soccer player managed to see one of them).
* A disambig page for two different towns in Wisconsin, USA with the
same name
* The Captain of the Portuguese Armada when they came to jeddah city.
(And that's where this stub article ends.)
* A disambig page between a flower festival in Australia, and a
flower and gardening exposition held every 10 years in the
Netherlands
* A date in 2005 on which the 26th named storm of the Atlantic
hurricane season formed, and a governor granted clemency to a
convicted murderer about to be executed
* A Japanese WWII military commander executed for war crimes in 1949
* List of magazines published in Indonesia
* A writer of Battletech books and a military history book
An interesting variety of topics... it shows me why I still like
Wikipedia, even if I sometimes get into fights with other editors
here. A pox on all the deletionists who want to reduce this variety.
It's great that we've got articles on practically every bridge over
the Mississippi, for instance... that meant that, when one of them
suddenly collapsed, we were there with background info and an article
to which new facts could be quickly added.
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"Thomas Dalton" wrote
> I would go with: "There's a lack of low hanging fruit at the edge of
> the orchard. You need to head in a bit deeper to find it, but it is
> still just as low."
I find that simply working on WP is the education one needs to realise what is missing. "Good stubs" are still, well, good. They tend not to require special skills to write.
Charles
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