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Latest comment: 6 years ago by LacrimosaDiesIlla in topic Forms of Latin "citer"

batch loading italian verb forms

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Could you please add "{{infl|it|verb form}}" instead of the word when batch loading articles from file as in f.e. accasciandovi, accasciandoti,accasciandomi, accasciandoci, abbuffandovi, etc. Otherwise the pages fill up Special:UncategorizedPages again while i am trying to get that endless list smaller. Thanks Mutante 22:48, 25 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

Italian participles

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Not every italian participle has a female or plural form. Participles of verbs which are to conjugate with "avere" altough they are intransitive, cannot exist. Exemples: abbaiati, pranzati.... Sorry, it's simply ridiculous --85.1.137.47 14:11, 8 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

Recent changes

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Does the bot follow the recent changes, or just your most recent edits? I occasionally find Italian words that have red linked plural, I'm assuming these are older entries, right? Mglovesfun (talk) 14:17, 24 February 2010 (UTC)Reply

Adjective forms

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Just a heads-up: we might change the appearance of non-gloss definitions (see here) and as your Italian adjective forms don't use a template, they would become inconsistent. —Internoob (DiscCont) 01:43, 28 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

athleticis

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Latin has no common gender; only masculine, feminine, and neuter. The "common gender" in linguistics is not the same as "common to all genders". --EncycloPetey 08:53, 13 November 2010 (UTC)Reply

Also, the inflection line was missing a standard macron in the ending. This may be a problem on previously generated pages. --EncycloPetey 09:12, 13 November 2010 (UTC)Reply

conjugate me

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Please conjugate préconiser

Template:mf

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Template:mf is deprecated and has been deleted. Please use {{m|f}} instead.Matthias Buchmeier 16:10, 12 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

noun forms

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Hey, SB, do you think you could have a look at [[WT:TR#Latin genitive -atis nouns]], please? I have no idea whether it's up your alley or not, but if not then I have no idea whose it would be up.​—msh210 (talk) 06:12, 3 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for replying there.​—msh210 (talk) 17:24, 3 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

Latin error

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diff, not sure why, not too many entries affected right now, just 9 including that one. --Mglovesfun (talk) 15:42, 18 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

assortirions

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Hi, there's some weird pronunciation going on over here. Is possibly my fault --Rockpilot 21:13, 14 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

minauder

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minauder can be added to the FeedMe page. Thanks --Simplus2 12:00, 3 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

desertorum

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It seems that there's a missing macron here; it says dēsertorum, but should be dēsertōrum, at least according to the inflection table at desertus. Could this be a systematic problem? – Krun 01:59, 15 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

French plural participles

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Can you update the bot syntax to do this? Reasons are two fold. lang=French produces {{French/script}} (doesn't exist) and French has two plural past participles, masculine and feminine. Mglovesfun (talk) 13:21, 20 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Category:it verb forms

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Category:it verb forms. Maro (talk) 19:46, 26 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Words in this category have wrong L2 header and category. See for example coproduca. Maro (talk) 22:51, 26 February 2012 (UTC)Reply
It does seem to be limited to one verb, so presumably a one-off typo. Mglovesfun (talk) 23:11, 26 February 2012 (UTC)Reply
Oh, I see what you mean. That was due to a newly added verb of an unusual form. I had to dig a model out of long-term backup. I have fixed the model, and will fix the entries next. SemperBlotto (talk) 08:14, 27 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

transperer

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Hi. there was a mistake with transpercer - see [1]. Perhaps a bug in the code. --Coippf (talk) 12:19, 9 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

forms of imprimo

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I don't know if there is only one verb with that bug but I found one. Forms of imprimo, for example impresserat, link to the verb imprĭmo instead of imprimo. Another: imprĭmis also links to imprimo but No pages link to imprĭmis. Maro 22:18, 1 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

Some missed Latin entries

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It looks like the bot ended up not adding inflections of the Latin discus to disco and disce. Would this have happened for all cases where a page already existed for an inflected form, or just if a page already existed and already had a Latin section? Emufarmers (talk) 06:57, 19 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

pourfondre doesn't exist

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Please see http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/pourfondre . You mistook pourfondre for pourfendre. Regards --Maria.Sion (talk) 11:24, 1 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

radicals

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Bot added a French entry, I removed it and went to modify radical only to find it already said 'radicaux' not 'radicals'. What happened? Mglovesfun (talk) 22:32, 7 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

Problem with autocreation of German inflected forms entries

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Take a look here. --WikiTiki89 11:12, 27 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Also you entered a dash as the plural form of Humus. PierreAbbat (talk) 03:50, 11 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

envoûtée

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You should fix your definitions of all French participles: the definition does not mean anything, it should be singular feminine past participle of envoûter (not envoûté). Lmaltier (talk) 05:33, 22 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

SemperBlottoBot's generated forms

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Your bot is still adding raw links to entries, like affûtiaux, even though that has been deprecated for a long time. I am working on cleaning up such usage right now (see Category:Entries using form-of templates with a raw link), so could you fix your bot so that it doesn't do that anymore? Thank you. —CodeCat 16:58, 15 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Template:rfc-auto

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Hi,

Why add {{rfc-auto}} on entries like [2]? Thanks by advance for your answer, Automatik (talk) 01:09, 17 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

referencia

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I noticed your bot added a space after the word it links to. This is causing problems because the template thinks that the parameter is not a valid page name, so it omits the link. There are others in Category:Entries using form-of templates with a raw link/conjugation of. —CodeCat 15:25, 19 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

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In this series of edits [3], it looks as though the Norwegian change is correct, but the Latin changes are not. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:26, 24 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

The Norwegian changes aren't correct either. It should have been changed into {{form of|Imperative|vise|lang=nb}}. —CodeCat 01:30, 24 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
I've put it back the way it was. SemperBlotto (talk) 07:12, 24 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

on the auto-creation of French conjugated forms

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Hey, Jeff.

Do you think you could have your bot add lang=fr to {{homophones}} when it creates French forms. This will (as the template is currently configured) do nothing except that it will change the links to section-sepcific links (so pastiches rather than pastiches).

Thanks.​—msh210 (talk) 18:22, 24 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

hisself

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This edit correctly found a problem, but it mangled the fix. — Carolina wren discussió 01:35, 29 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Funny bot mistake

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Your bot did something wrong here: diff. It now shows "a fucking of"... —CodeCat 13:33, 1 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

Something went wrong with Portuguese verb forms

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Your bot created some entries for Portuguese verb forms, but it seems to have neglected to provide several required parameters, so those pages are showing script errors instead. See prevedes for example. —CodeCat 11:43, 5 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

consenimor

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These are incorrect

Latin declension tables

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Latin declension tables no longer need separate parameters for the macrons. So these have been removed. I didn't realise your bot used these templates, but I just noticed it now so I'm letting you know. The verb tables still work the old way, but they will probably be changed as well at some point. If I am the one that does it, I hope I remember then to notify you. Could you place notices on the documentation pages, like you did with the Italian templates? —CodeCat 16:38, 17 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

Plural forms

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{{plural of}} doesn't categorise anymore (see WT:NFE), and I noticed your bot hasn't been updated yet, so now it's creating orphaned entries. I've fixed the ones you created, but I'm letting you know in case you need to update your script. —CodeCat 20:02, 8 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

German verbs

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Dear SemperBlottoBot,

I created a category for you to work on if you want to. An admin has deleted it, but it's still usable.

--Kc kennylau (talk) 06:50, 9 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Work on Template:fr-noun

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I'm planning to do some cleanup work on the template, which will mean shuffling parameters around a bit. Could you hold off making any bot creations for this template until it's finished? —CodeCat 01:58, 24 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hold on, before you do stuff, don't you think there should be a discussion about what changes you're going to make? --WikiTiki89 02:09, 24 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
It's mostly just removing different parameters that do the same thing. —CodeCat 02:15, 24 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
If you mean this then I'm ok with it, but I think fplural should also be renamed to fpl. --WikiTiki89 02:21, 24 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Yes, like that. I also want to make 2= replace pl=, because that parameter is underused, and 3= and othergender= will become m= and f=, so that 3= can replace pl2=. It mainly brings the template in line with other similar templates like {{ca-noun}} and {{en-noun}}, which already work this way. —CodeCat 02:24, 24 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Ok, that's fine. --WikiTiki89 02:27, 24 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
OK. I'll keep an eye on it. SemperBlottoBot (talk) 08:20, 24 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
I think the changes are done. I've asked Wikitiki to check to make sure I didn't miss anything. The documentation has been updated. —CodeCat 23:01, 24 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Gender and number templates are going to be deleted

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I don't know if your bot still uses these, but in case it does, it needs to be changed because these have been deprecated and will be orphaned and deleted soon. You can use the g= parameter on {{head}} instead, if needed. —CodeCat 21:50, 30 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Work on the Latin conjugation templates

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I'm working on Module:la-verb, which could replace the templates we have now. Could you hold off from creating new entries from these templates for the moment? —CodeCat 02:16, 9 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Problems with the autogenerated entries for the declined forms of Lūcās

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Hi SBB. Please see these corrections I've made. For {{la-decl-1st-Greek-Ma|num=sg}}, the quantities of the final -ā̆ of the ablative and vocative forms are different, and grammatical number should not be listed in the form-of definitions of pluralia and singularia tantum; also, your bot should be able to distinguish between common and proper nouns (proper nouns have their own form-of headword template, viz. {{la-proper noun-form}}). Just flagging this up FYI. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 19:34, 4 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Your bot's still making mistakes with forms of Latin proper nouns; see the entries it's created recently for the forms of Geraestus. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 14:07, 10 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

{{m}}, et al. are deprecated

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You should use |g= in headwords instead. Keφr 10:33, 22 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

"mf" gender

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Your bot has been generating a few entries which call {{head}} with g=mf, which triggers errors. "mf" is not a valid gender code in Module:gender and number, it's only supported by some templates as a specific exception. For {{head}} you need to use g=m|g2=f. —CodeCat 16:32, 9 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

notte

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An edit by this bot removed the plural from "notte", changing it from "notti" to the base form. I have undone this edit. I think this might be an error with the bot. Velociraptor888 (talk) 19:29, 25 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

disciformus

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Special:whatlinkshere/disciformus is nonempty even though [[disciformus]] has never been created AFAICT.​—msh210 (talk) 06:47, 10 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Major bot mistake

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Please do not create disconvenior for disconvenio. --kc_kennylau (talk) 06:45, 26 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Spanish

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Hey. If you get some time, why not auto-generate thousands of Spanish verb forms? --Type56op9 (talk) 15:36, 12 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

abominandus

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An old error, but an odd one. Checking the latest database dump for other instances of [[=, I see that frendendus, extergens, extergendus and praedandus (just RFCed) were also affected; I just cleaned up abominandus and frendendus. (I initially noticed this thanks to DTLHS' cleanup list of instances of mismatched [[ ~ ]], Wiktionary:Todo/bad links.) - -sche (discuss) 04:15, 31 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

Portuguese past participles

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Hi SBB. To let you know, your bot has made the mistake to put masculine gender on some feminine past participles, for example here. I'm sure there's hundreds of other like that. Is there a quick fix? --Type56op9 (talk) 12:42, 15 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

Template:conjugation of

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This template was recently merged into Template:inflection of. I noticed your bot is generating entries with the old template still, could you update it? —CodeCat 21:56, 4 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

French past participles

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Note that I had to fix trimée, trimées, trimés : https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=trim%C3%A9s&diff=32235599&oldid=27458207 But only for this verb. Are there many such cases to be fixed? Is you bot now OK? Lmaltier (talk) 19:28, 16 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

I now see that I already asked the question... Lmaltier (talk) 19:30, 16 February 2015 (UTC)Reply
Personally, I consider that fixing my (bot or manual) mistakes is an absolute priority.
Also note that these forms normally don't exist (intransitive verb). They exist only because of a new (missing) transitive sense derived from the English verb (trim). I'm afraid that your bot created many such inexistent forms for French intransitive verbs. Lmaltier (talk) 18:16, 25 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

Your bot is creating module errors on French past participle forms. For example at arrhés,

===Verb===
{{head|fr}} {{m|p}}

# {{masculine plural past participle of|arrher|lang=fr}}

should be

===Participle===
{{head|fr|past participle form|g=m-p}}

# {{masculine plural past participle of|arrher|lang=fr}}

Thanks! —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 10:26, 23 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

Well

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One of us hit 4 million. --Type56op9 (talk) 10:00, 25 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

Some bot mistakes

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Your bot has made a few mistakes in entries it generated recently:

  • ottriati is marked as the plural past participle form, but it's the masculine plural form.
  • bouturée uses {{f}} which was deleted over a year ago.
  • Many of the entries are missing the category parameter of {{head}}. I've fixed these with a bot for the most part.

CodeCat 17:48, 19 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

Bot too quick

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Can you slow him down? --kc_kennylau (talk) 08:13, 20 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

exsto

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@SemperBlotto, please delete this pile of crap that your automaton created. --Romanophile (contributions) 16:00, 30 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

saxophone

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In this edit diff your bot added a French section when there was already an existing French section. DTLHS (talk) 13:55, 31 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

Template:de-proper noun

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I've copied Template:de-noun's pluralization functionality over to this template and updated the documentation. This has not changed how any of the existing named or positional parameters work, it merely adds an unnamed positional parameter 3 and two named parameters pl2 and pl3, which function the same way they do on Template:de-noun. - -sche (discuss) 05:17, 30 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

A few problems

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See Cat:E. Chuck Entz (talk) 02:32, 15 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

Module:la-adj

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I added a |num= parameter to Module:la-adj to make it easier to create inflection tables for singularia and pluralia tanta and to make it more consistent with other Latin templates (such as {{la-decl-1st}}) for which you can do the same thing. I've removed all |type=pl parameters from existing entries and replaced them with |num=pl. Edit the bot accordingly. Esszet (talk) 13:30, 28 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

Portuguese verb template for dar

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I noticed that while Portuguese verbs have been fixed to follow the 1990 Orthographic Convention, the third person plural subjunctive form of dar still has the old spelling dêem; it should be "deem" without the circumflex. The individual pages for those two spellings may also need updating. S. Neuman (talk) 19:57, 19 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

Format of entries generated from Template:la-decl-3rd-comp

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Hi @SemperBlotto. When your bot creates non-lemma entries from transclusions of {{la-decl-3rd-comp}}, could you use {{la-comp-form}} to generate the headword lines, rather than {{la-adj-form}}, please? — I.S.M.E.T.A. 12:27, 20 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

Changes to Latin first- and second-declension adjectival-declension templates

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Hi SB(B). I've made some changes:

  1. In {{la-decl-1&2}}, the old |type=greek is now |type=greekA. |type=greekA displays as in adespotos.
  2. |type=greekE has been added to {{la-decl-1&2}}. |type=greekE displays as in rhētoricōteros.
  3. I have created a new declension template, viz. {{la-adecl-2nd}}. In that declension, the feminine forms are isomorphic with the masculine forms; in non-lemma entries, the masc./fem. forms will need duplicated sense lines, as in the case of non-lemma forms of adjectives declined per {{la-decl-3rd-2E}}.
    1. Its normal display is as in chrȳsocarpus.
    2. Its Greek variant, |type=greek, displays as in chrȳsocarpos.

I hope that's all clear. Ping me for further explanation if not. Thanks. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 14:03, 20 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

@SemperBlotto: Thanks for letting me know. What https change are you referring to? Is there another bot that does this kind of work? — I.S.M.E.T.A. 14:41, 24 October 2016 (UTC)Reply
See [4] - I may be able to fix it if I have any spare time (busy in the real world these days). SemperBlotto (talk) 14:50, 24 October 2016 (UTC)Reply
@SemperBlotto: OK, I understand now. Thanks and good luck, both online and IRL! — I.S.M.E.T.A. 00:58, 25 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

Changes to Latin adverb headline template usage

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Please see the documentation for the new format. --kc_kennylau (talk) 14:36, 10 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

@kc_kennylau: “This bot no longer works (since https change).:-(  — I.S.M.E.T.A. 13:13, 23 November 2016 (UTC)Reply
@I'm so meta even this acronym: I got it to work again (we are both using pywikibot). --kc_kennylau (talk) 11:28, 24 November 2016 (UTC)Reply
@kc_kennylau: Excellent! @SemperBlotto, nota bene. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 13:05, 24 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

Auto-generation of German plurals

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Adding an -n to dative plurals in German is not always correct. I found a few examples where your bot did this, for example Rektan. --Bruno413 (talk) 15:59, 18 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

Module errors in Portuguese verb form entries

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Hi! There are a bunch of module errors (Cat:E) for some edits adding entries for Portuguese verb forms. This relates to the list of conjugations in Module:pt-verb-form-of. Not sure how to fix this, though I added a more informative error message. — Eru·tuon 02:37, 26 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

Module errors

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Hi, a bunch of missing parameters in entries for verb forms of spaurarsi. — Eru·tuon 19:34, 13 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

Latin word erint doesn't exist

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I therefore marked the word as junk. Christa Bella (talk) 19:17, 9 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

Have you checked? The entry as it stands now is, of course, an error- but the word seems to have been in use. Chuck Entz (talk) 20:31, 9 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
It looks like a conjugated form of sum, and occurs a few times on Latin Wikisource, but isn't listed in the conjugation table for sum. — Eru·tuon 20:49, 9 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
I asked a university Latin teacher about this, and I was told that the word doesn't exist. Latin students could make that error while conjugating sum because there are 3rd person plural future perfect forms ending with "-erint", and future perfect forms are usually made by attaching sum conjugation to the end of the word, but the 3rd person plural future form of sum is actually erunt. I'm unable to tell what the word stands for in the Wikisource texts mentioned above. Christa Bella (talk) 21:19, 9 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
A Latin teacher doesn't necessarily know every word in every Latin text ever written. Consider how many words in your own native language you don't how about yet. :) —Rua (mew) 21:35, 9 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
All three uses in thee Latin Wikisource are from after 1500. DTLHS (talk) 21:42, 9 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
Let's wait for someone to tell if it is in all cases an error or not. If no one can verify that the word has a dictionary definition or that it is an error common enough in literature to mention here, we have to delete it eventually as undefined, right? --2001:14BB:42:940F:8D54:328C:59DF:9418 23:58, 9 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
The first two use "erunt" where wikisource says "erint": Prodromus florae Novae Hollandiae et Insulae van-Diemen, Biblia Sacra Vulgata. The use in "De re metallica" seems to be a scanno for affuerint. DTLHS (talk) 01:01, 10 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

I think that the current text on the page is alright. 2001:14BB:42:940F:8D54:328C:59DF:9418 08:52, 10 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

Forms of Latin "citer"

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You auto-generated entries for forms of the Latin adjective "citer" on 9 March 2016. Unfortunately, while they all seem to have been generated on the right pages, a number of them managed to misspell the relevant form within the Latin entry itself, omitting the 'r' in the following forms: citrum, citram, citrae, citri, citrorum, citros, citrarum, citris, citras. I have corrected these typos; however, I am concerned, since the entries were auto-generated, that a similar problem may have arisen in the auto-generation of forms of other similar Latin adjectives (or nouns) ending in -er, so I wanted to bring it to your attention. [I also note that you auto-generated an entry for "citre" as a putative masculine singular vocative form of "citer" (also with typo, as above), but the correct form is in fact "citer" so I deleted this entry.] LacrimosaDiesIlla (talk) 17:01, 29 January 2018 (UTC)Reply