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:While searching for existing Tamil Sandhi checkers (thank you for teaching me the word "Sandhi"), I found one that sourced [http://www.tamilvu.org/courses/degree/c021/c0214/html/c0214661.htm] in Tamil. Just posting this here for future reference. [[User:Kritixilithos|Kritixilithos]] ([[User talk:Kritixilithos|talk]]) 08:40, 26 August 2020 (UTC) |
:While searching for existing Tamil Sandhi checkers (thank you for teaching me the word "Sandhi"), I found one that sourced [http://www.tamilvu.org/courses/degree/c021/c0214/html/c0214661.htm] in Tamil. Just posting this here for future reference. [[User:Kritixilithos|Kritixilithos]] ([[User talk:Kritixilithos|talk]]) 08:40, 26 August 2020 (UTC) |
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::{{re|Kritixilithos|Hk5183}} Just want to say it's great that you all are working on Tamil! It has been one of the neglected South Asian languages on here, so it's good to see expansion :) —[[User:AryamanA|Aryaman<sup>A</sup>]] <sup>''([[User talk:Aryamanarora|मुझसे बात करें]] • [[Special:Contributions/AryamanA|योगदान]])''</sup> 23:45, 2 September 2020 (UTC) |
::{{re|Kritixilithos|Hk5183}} Just want to say it's great that you all are working on Tamil! It has been one of the neglected South Asian languages on here, so it's good to see expansion :) —[[User:AryamanA|Aryaman<sup>A</sup>]] <sup>''([[User talk:Aryamanarora|मुझसे बात करें]] • [[Special:Contributions/AryamanA|योगदान]])''</sup> 23:45, 2 September 2020 (UTC) |
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:::+1 {{re|Kritixilithos|Hk5183}} it's cool that you're working on this. I can help with puṇarcci (புணர்ச்சி which is the Tamil name for Sandhi) where possible. -- [[User:Sundar|Sundar]] ([[User talk:Sundar|talk]]) 12:28, 22 July 2021 (UTC) |
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== Ge'ez Nouns == |
== Ge'ez Nouns == |
Revision as of 12:28, 22 July 2021
What does this word have to do with time? DTLHS (talk) 02:19, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
- Also Wiktionary is case sensitive so you usually want to link to the lower case forms of words- elm and not Elm. DTLHS (talk) 02:28, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
What does this post have to do with time?
Trees flower in the spring Hk5183 (talk) 02:24, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
- By "time", we mean words such as second, minute, hour, week, month, year, decade, and so on. I changed the category to oj:Trees. —Stephen (Talk) 12:32, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, Hk5183. Thanks for your contributions.
- There seems to be an issue with Unami diacritics. For the word hupokàn, you put a grave accent. However, that word with the grave accent was added to tobacco pipe, but it does not link to hupokàn. The grave accent is stripped out, so it links to "hupokan" (without the grave). It appears that someone has edited an Unami template which strips the accents from Unami words.
- I know a bit about Ojibwe, but nothing relating to Unami, so I can't be of help with this. If you believe that the Unami accents are required for proper spelling, you should mention this problem at WT:GP. That's where our programmers go to fix software issues such as this. Someone there will know where this diacritic-stripper is and how to fix it.
- Let me know if you need more clarification. —Stephen (Talk) 12:06, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
apostrophe
Hi, @Hk5183. Just to let you know, we are currently using the straight ' for this, not the right curly ’. However, I have been thinking for a long time that we really should be using the proper ʼ (modifier letter apostrophe), because that is an actual letter, while the straight apostrophe is just punctuation. Do you have any feelings on this matter? We already use the ʼ (modifier letter apostrophe) for Navajo, and in my opinion we should be using it also for Ojibwe, Yup'ik, and other Native American languages that have this letter. —Stephen (Talk) 15:01, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
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Language names
Language names should match the generated categories (X lemmas, etc), or you can request that the names be changed at Wiktionary:Requests for moves, mergers and splits. DTLHS (talk) 15:59, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! I will pay more attention in the future~~Hk5183
Tamil
Thanks for your contributions :) —AryamanA (मुझसे बात करें • योगदान) 20:30, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
Please add the automated pronunciation {{ta-IPA}} also. This will save time for us to cleanup. --Octahedron80 (talk) 02:52, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
ok, can do. Thanks for the advice!
P.S. If there are any groups that you know of for Tamil, Telugu, Kannada and Malayalam wiktionary I'd be glad to work together to add proper noun inflections and verb conjugations Thanks! Hk5183 (talk) 23:20, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Why did you add a transcription? Ultimateria (talk) 19:04, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
sorry, my bad. I'll get rid of that. I often use a template to make new pages, so I just forgot to remove that. Hk5183 (talk) 19:10, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
cat2=verb animate intransitive
Hi. Instead of cat2=verb animate intransitive
, please use cat2=animate intransitive verbs
, and similarly. Thanks! Benwing2 (talk) 18:14, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Better yet, follow the formatting example of ahpamuxwe, the way I've changed it. This adds the page to separate categories Category:Unami animate verbs and Category:Unami intransitive verbs, both of which now exist. Benwing2 (talk) 18:30, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Also, for non-lemma verb forms like wënemën, use "===Verb===" as the header but
{{head|unm|verb form}}
as the template for the headword. Thanks! Benwing2 (talk) 18:38, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Also, for non-lemma verb forms like wënemën, use "===Verb===" as the header but
- Thanks! I will do that from now on.Hk5183 (talk) 19:25, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Adding Entries For Amharic
Just to make sure you're doing things right, what means in the physical or digital world are you using to add Amharic entries with your mobile phone or anything? --Apisite (talk) 17:39, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- I am using an iPhone with a Ge'ez alphabet keyboard installed, and a laptop with an Amharic alphabet installed. Does that answer your question?--Hk5183 (talk) 17:56, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for the first half, now I ask you for the second half: where exactly are you getting the Amharic words from? That's where a reference template comes in handy. --Apisite (talk) 23:50, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- I've consulted the following sources.
- Thank you for the first half, now I ask you for the second half: where exactly are you getting the Amharic words from? That's where a reference template comes in handy. --Apisite (talk) 23:50, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- I am using an iPhone with a Ge'ez alphabet keyboard installed, and a laptop with an Amharic alphabet installed. Does that answer your question?--Hk5183 (talk) 17:56, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Leslau, Wolf. A Concise Amharic Dictionary. Germany, Harrassowitz, 1976.
Appleyard, David L.. Colloquial Amharic [cassette]: Pronunciation lessons, 1-13. United Kingdom, Routledge, 1995.
Leslau, Wolf. Reference grammar of Amharic. Germany, Harrassowitz, 1995.
Leslau, Wolf. Introductory Grammar of Amharic. Germany, Harrassowitz, 2000.
Getahun, Girma Y.. Advanced Amharic lexicon : a supplement to concise Amharic-English dictionaries. Germany, Lit, 2003.
- http://www.amharicdictionary.com/
- https://books.google.com/books?id=qgtfAAAAcAAJ&pg=RA1-PA178&lpg=RA1-PA178&dq=%E1%8A%A0%E1%89%A3%E1%89%A5&source=bl&ots=3aA1QiKNeR&sig=ACfU3U0LmvypnFFh-r1IapKlALNRW1YfLQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjthfqb88DpAhW7hHIEHSgUD_MQ6AEwDXoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=%E1%8A%A0%E1%89%A3%E1%89%A5&f=false
Isenberg, William Charles. Dictionary of the Amharic Language. United Kingdom, The Church Missionary Society, 1841.
I do not believe that any Amharic reference templates currently exist. I will make sure to add citations to my pages. I figured that since the other Amharic entries lacked citations, mine didn't need them either. I'll add refs for all my entries. Hk5183 (talk) 00:26, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Munsee stress
Hi Hk5183. Thanks for creating some Munsee entries. I want to address the issue of stress though. I think the stress of a word should be left to the header. A big reason for this is so people can create links to entries without knowing the proper stress, which can be confusing to predict. We also have the technical ability to have stressed links, like thúpuy, invisibly redirect to thupuy. --{{victar|talk}}
17:40, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Ok, I can get on board with that. I don't have any strong opinion one way or another about accents in Munsee. Essentially, I just want to establish a standard approach to the issue and stick with that. Thanks for the input! I'll do that from now on.--Hk5183 (talk) 18:07, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Cool. I'll get around to moving some of the entries you created. --
{{victar|talk}}
18:57, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Cool. I'll get around to moving some of the entries you created. --
Category:Requests for gender in Amharic entries
Have you ever considered improving entries in Category:Requests for gender in Amharic entries? --Apisite (talk) 06:10, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- Forgot that even existed! thanks for the reminder! Will do!Hk5183 (talk) 11:52, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- If you don't want to keep hidden categories hidden, then you may want to make them visible through the menu of your Preferences. --Apisite (talk) 20:54, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- Forgot that even existed! thanks for the reminder! Will do!Hk5183 (talk) 11:52, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Translations in Translingual entries
Generally, only English entries should have translation sections. In the case of all these Amharic translations you've added to Ge'ez-script letters, those aren't even really translations, because they're names for the letters. Sorry for the trouble. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 18:03, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Breves in Latin
Breves are not used for Latin on Wiktionary. Vowels that are not marked with a macron are assumed to be short. —Rua (mew) 20:58, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
Hello,
If you create entries in a language you don't know, e.g. this revision, please have a courtesy of asking for {{attention}}
or to fix inflections, stresses, etc, with something like this, for Ukrainian nouns
====Declension==== {{rfinfl|uk|noun}}
I discourage you from making any more Slavic entries. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 00:57, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Ojibwe verb categorization, etc.
Hi,
I'm wondering if you might weigh in on the conversation i tried to start in the beer parlour about how to categorize Ojibwe verbs. I'm also wondering about how to make the verb categories visible in the entries. I think the best way is to add them in brackets after the headword (see aakozi).
The other issue i'm thinking through is how to do etymologies for verb stems. The tools available in wiktionary (affix, suffix, prefix) seem poorly suited to Ojibwe and don't allow a useful analysis of initial-medial-final word stems. But that conversation can wait, i think.
Anyway, i'm wondering what you might think of all of this.
SteveGat (talk) 17:32, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
Tamil noun declension
Hi, I saw you created {{ta-decl-noun}}
. I too have been wanting to have automated noun declension tables for Tamil, so I've created Module:User:Kritixilithos implementing the word-combining rules from chapter 2 of https://archive.org/details/progressivegramm00ardeiala/page/page/33, as recommended by Lehmann's "A Grammar of Modern Tamil". Maybe we can combine our efforts in creating declension tables. Kritixilithos (talk) 15:33, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
- Absolutely. I apologize for my impertinence in creating this template without properly consulting other users. That was admittedly a lapse of judgement on my part, especially since I know that my template cannot yet adequately contain all declined forms. Thank you for your cooperative demeanor! I have a weak understanding of Code, so I cannot fully read your Module, yet I completely agree that it will be necessary to program a module that can automatically apply the proper Sandhi rules to an undeclined stem. Since the template is not yet transcluded on many pages, I'll refrain from adding it to any more for the time being.
I would like to create a group to collaborate on Tamil templates. Do you know where would be a good place for that?
Additionally, here are some other great sources that may be useful and/or interesting to you. https://www.sas.upenn.edu/~haroldfs/public/h_sch_9a.pdf, https://user.phil-fak.uni-duesseldorf.de/~zinova/teaching/CompMorphBlockWiSe2016/tamil.pdf, https://www.skytower.org/~ernstjtremel/downloadableTamilFiles/Verbklassen.pdf, https://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/141592/12/12_chapter%204.pdf Hk5183 (talk) 18:23, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
- No need to apologise, it's only on noticing that template that I've decided to start writing the noun module. As for a group, I'm not yet aware of any Tamil group here, but I'm still new to Wiktionary. As for other templates, User:Johnfreez copied the Kannadan verb inflection table to a Tamil one;
{{ta-conj-t-p}}
is a work-in-progress table for verb class VII. There are some changes that need to be made to format of the table, accounting for the differences of Tamil from Kannada. It might be worth collaborating with Wiktionary Tamil, for an inflection table would be mutually beneficial.
As for Module:User:Kritixilithos, I've so far codified the first three rules (didn't know they were called Sandhi) from the linked book. If you prefer Discord, we could alternatively continue discussion in Wiktionary:Discord_server's #dravidian channel. Thank you for the resources, I'll have a look. Kritixilithos (talk) 08:21, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- While searching for existing Tamil Sandhi checkers (thank you for teaching me the word "Sandhi"), I found one that sourced [1] in Tamil. Just posting this here for future reference. Kritixilithos (talk) 08:40, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Kritixilithos, Hk5183: Just want to say it's great that you all are working on Tamil! It has been one of the neglected South Asian languages on here, so it's good to see expansion :) —AryamanA (मुझसे बात करें • योगदान) 23:45, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
- +1 @Kritixilithos, Hk5183: it's cool that you're working on this. I can help with puṇarcci (புணர்ச்சி which is the Tamil name for Sandhi) where possible. -- Sundar (talk) 12:28, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Kritixilithos, Hk5183: Just want to say it's great that you all are working on Tamil! It has been one of the neglected South Asian languages on here, so it's good to see expansion :) —AryamanA (मुझसे बात करें • योगदान) 23:45, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
Ge'ez Nouns
When and how could the template {{gez-noun}}
be made? --Apisite (talk) 22:05, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
I frankly don't really know. I'm not good enough at coding. But it certainly should be. Among others, I would like to see a template for Ge'ez noun & adjective declension/inflection, preposition inflection , roots, conjugation of verbs, etc... I've been looking at the comparable Hebrew and Arabic templates and modules for comparison. Pronoun suffixes should be included a template Template:gez-ndecl/ Lua error: bad argument #1 to 'sub' (string expected, got nil). Thank's for the taking the imperative to ask questions! This problem should be addressed! Hk5183 (talk) 22:20, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
- I imagine it wouldn't be too hard to make. Unfortunately, I only know the barest basics of Ge'ez grammar, not enough to make the template, so you'd have to let me know what features it'll need. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 22:33, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello. You left a note at sqwemá:y saying "This type of dog was raised for its wool". ====Note==== isn't a valid header in Wiktionary, so perhaps that information should go somewhere else. Maybe in the definition line, like
- dog (a particular type of dog raised for its wool)
Or if you think that's related to the etymology of the word, in the Etymology header. Pious Eterino (talk) 15:23, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
- I've tentatively moved that info to the definition.__Gamren (talk) 20:03, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Thank you! Hk5183 (talk) 20:08, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks and notice
Hi!
I want to thank you for creating numerous entries for Garo in the past. We're up to 600 lemmas already! :D
The news is that the templates that you created, {{Garo-determiners}}
and {{Garo-personal pronouns}}
were moved to {{grt-determiners}}
and {{grt-personal pronouns}}
because it is more accesible to use the ISO 639 code, respectively. I am commenting this here so that the people who want to know why it was moved could see here. I hope you are fine with that! BrightSunMan (talk) 20:27, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Absolutely! Thank you for your work! I think that's a fantastic idea... much more practical. While we're discussing Garo. I was wondering what you think about 2 issues. The first is the issue of dialects. Should we be more systematic about identifying the dialect with each term? The second issue is Bengali script. Should we include the Bengali spelling for each example? If so, should that be left as a red-link or should they have a separate page?
Just some food for thought. Thanks! Hk5183 (talk) 23:05, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- I already tried to create an about page for Garo explaining its specific rules for creating entries. I wrote that dialects should be differentiated if known, and that Bengali script entries may be created but should refer to the Latin script term. BrightSunMan (talk) 10:16, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Northern Kurdish cleanup
Hi. Thanks for your work with Northern Kurdish! If you have time, can you look at Category:Tbot entries (Northern Kurdish)? IT contains some entries made by a robot over 10 years ago. Indian subcontinent (talk) 23:27, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
- Great! User:Balyozxane has been working on them diligently too, probably in alphabetical order judging from the remaining entries. With just 62 remaining, hopefully the category can be emptied before summer Indian subcontinent (talk) 07:46, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
Absolutely. I'll take a look. Thanks for the heads up. Hk5183 (talk) 00:29, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
Forgot to tell you
Perhaps this will come in handy for you, I've created it in April and it works very well if you need something like this for any inflection-table templates or such. Of course this is only for Western Cree, but if you need an Eastern Cree variant the code is easily modifiable. Cheers! Thadh (talk) 17:15, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
Yes, thank you very much! Hk5183 (talk) 22:26, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
- Also, perhaps a little bit of a sidetrack, about diff, I should probably clarify: "Cree" as now defined on Wiktionary is unmanageable, and it's probably much safer to just give Plains Cree (or another dialect, if you prefer) instead. I'm pretty sure most "Cree" entries are of a certain variety where the editor forgot or didn't bother to or some other way couldn't specify the lect, but since I - and any other user that came across it - didn't want to go to the trouble of RFC'ing it, and deleting another editor's entry without a process is bad practice, they stayed for the time being. But basically, since there is no actual unified Cree, I would refrain from adding it as cognates. Thadh (talk) 20:31, 17 July 2021 (UTC)