Talk:Ashmore and Cartier Islands

For future reference the Project:CIA World Factbook 2002 import can be found at Talk:Ashmore and Cartier Islands/CIA World Factbook 2002 import -- (WT-en) Huttite 21:47, 27 Mar 2005 (EST)

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This is neither a suitable destination or even possible stopping point in any sense apart from emergency... is the article template suitable for such a location? sats (talk) 09:27, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

We have other articles about locations accessible only to military personnel, like Diego Garcia. Are there ever any foreign military personnel at these islands, to your knowledge? Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:35, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Proposed merge

Hi Ikan Kekek and Ground Zero, shall we delete this article? It's uninhabitable, you can't get there. It's only there as an extension of Australia's EEZ. It's not going to give a reader anything. TravelAroundOz (talk) 03:10, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

We have a lot of articles for Next-to-impossible destinations. These articles are fun for armchair travelling. As long as the difficulty in getting there and restrictions on access are clearly identified, I think these articles are accepted in Wikivoyage. Ground Zero (talk) 03:26, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Lol, I'd love to visit some of these places. TravelAroundOz (talk) 03:53, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Me too. I'm surprised how much time I spent starting the article on Guadalupe Island, which I'm pretty sure I'll never get to. But it is fun to dream. Ground Zero (talk) 04:50, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Merge strongly objected to - as Ground Zero states they are excellent for next-to-impossible destinations, and politically, the reefs/sometimes above sea level rocks are an intriuging part of Australia's relationship with Indonesia, and the rest of the word when it comes to adjacent seas and international boundaries. I would never want to visit, but my personal preference is not above inclusion of a close to impossible place that is identified many times in complex issues to do with fishing rights, refugee and immigration issues in Australia. JarrahTree (talk) 04:37, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

We might want to eliminate some of the usual sections from the article, though. I tried an edit, but I don't know if it's reasonable. Also, if you did get permission to visit, wouldn't you have to go by boat? Seems so, and if so, we shouldn't mention it in "Get in". Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:41, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

without checking commonwealth government gazettals for specific proscriptions - from memory it is a prohibited area due to at risk wildlife - just like the french prohibitions of access of any sort to most of their possessions in the southern Indian Ocean - JarrahTree (talk) 04:45, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

the english wikipedia article even suggests:

Access to Cartier Island is prohibited because of the risk of unexploded ordnances even more reason to not want to get there, as well as having no point to access (anchorage only) - and the friendly border force staff on the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABFC_Thaiyak - who I am sure with 300 days a year next to the reefs might get stir crazy with their glocks... no thanks.. JarrahTree (talk) 04:52, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Improving article

Information from this travel pamphlet from the Australian government would make this article a lot more useful. ChubbyWimbus (talk) 14:54, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

utility is very odd for a place that should not be encouraged to go to - but the pdf is a good catch...JarrahTree (talk) 12:20, 25 March 2021 (UTC)