Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests

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If you are unable to complete a move for technical reasons, you can request technical help below. This is the correct method if you tried to move a page, but you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons:..." or "The/This page could not be moved, for the following reason:..."

To list a technical request: edit the Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code at the bottom of the list, filling in pages and reason:
{{subst:RMassist|current page title|new title|reason=edit summary for the move}}
This will automatically insert a bullet and include your signature. Please do not edit the article's talk page.
If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~. Consider pinging the requester to let them know about the objection.
If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page.

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Uncontroversial technical requests

Duluth MN–WI Metropolitan Area → Twin Ports (currently a redirect back to Duluth MN–WI Metropolitan Area) (move · discuss) – Undiscussed page move, violates WP:COMMONNAME. Molandfreak (talk, contribs, email) 05:58, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Mixtape (Autumn Hill song) → Mixtape (song) (currently a redirect instead to Mixtape (disambiguation)) (move · discuss) – WP:SONGDAB 162 etc. (talk) 03:36, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Longhao Airlines → Air Central (China) (move · discuss) – the airline's name has officially changed. Sgnpkd (talk) 15:08, 16 October 2024 (UTC)Sgnpkd (talk) 15:08, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bør Børson → Bør Børson Jr. (currently a redirect back to Bør Børson) (move · discuss) – All the entries on this dab page, except 1, are titled Bør Børson Jr. Natg 19 (talk) 23:47, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Transference focused psychotherapy → Transference-focused psychotherapy (move · discuss) – This is a compound modifier. Hyphenation is preferred by 4 vs 3 source titles. Cf. Mentalization-based_treatment 70.50.89.179 (talk) 01:37, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Ambassador's Daughter (1956 film) → The Ambassador's Daughter (move · discuss) – Swapping two pages; new page was originally a disambiguation page but the other article mentioned does not have an article, making the new page the rightful article for the 1956 film. MimirIsSmart (talk) 03:22, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pro-motivational agent → Motivation-enhancing drug (move · discuss) – More commonly used and appropriate name (see Talk:Pro-motivational agent#Most appropriate name for this page for details). 76.174.0.57 (talk) 06:38, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ages of consent in South America → Age of consent in South America (currently a redirect back to Ages of consent in South America) (move · discuss) – singular noun per normal naming conventions — kwami (talk) 07:20, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ages of consent in North America → Age of consent in North America (currently a redirect back to Ages of consent in North America) (move · discuss) – singular noun per normal naming conventions — kwami (talk) 07:20, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ages of consent in South America → Age of consent in South America (currently a redirect back to Ages of consent in South America) (move · discuss) – singular noun per normal naming conventions — kwami (talk) 07:20, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ages of consent in the United States → Age of consent in the United States (currently a redirect back to Ages of consent in the United States) (move · discuss) – singular noun per normal naming conventions — kwami (talk) 07:20, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requests to revert undiscussed moves

Contested technical requests

Tesla Cybertruck → Cybertruck (currently a redirect back to Tesla Cybertruck) (move · discuss) – WP:CONCISE Mach61 19:56, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mach61 Per Wikipedia:WikiProject Automobiles/Conventions, automobile articles are always at "Make Model" for consistency. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 23:29, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Its better to have a "Tesla" name at the front just for disambiguation. Cooldudeseven7 (Cheers! Let's Discuss over a cup of tea!) 15:34, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tamara (name) → Tamara (given name) (currently a redirect back to Tamara (name)) (move · discuss) – Already reversed once under MOS:APO. Would need RM discussion to be at (name) title. (fyi Maliner) Hyphenation Expert (talk) 23:51, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hyphenation Expert, What I did was revert your undiscussed controversial move objected by The Blue Rider here on RM. Per the history, the original title was (Tamara) (name). If you want the article to be moved to your preferred version, then please open a full-fledged discussion, as it is not uncontroversial. Maliner (talk) 06:56, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Maliner: No, I myself reverted the move a few hours earlier by Rosguill. "(given name)" was the stable title since 2011. Hyphenation Expert (talk) 08:46, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rosguill, for your attention. any issues with reverting to the 2011 title until a full discussion takes place? – robertsky (talk) 09:42, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Hyphenation Expert No. Before 2011, it was Tamara (name); then it was moved by the admin Rosguill, which you had reverted without any discussion. Your move was objected here by The Blue Rider, so I accepted their request. This is a controversial move. If you want your preferred version, go and open a discussion. Maliner (talk) 09:43, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yikes. Rosguill performed the controversial, undiscussed move (13 years-long title is status quo), which I reverted - so that's the point a RM discussion is required. You reintroduced a controversial move. Hyphenation Expert (talk) 09:46, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Hyphenation Expert I just reverted your preferred version because it was without a discussion. I see you are move warring with The Blue Rider on different pages. I will suggest you stop. Maliner (talk) 09:53, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"you had reverted without any discussion" That's exactly how WP:RMUM works, astonished this needs to be explained. Hyphenation Expert (talk) 09:56, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Hyphenation Expert Exactly what WP:RMUM says, Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. Maliner (talk) 10:03, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
do not make the move again. That's the step you violated (by introducing the undiscussed page name again). Hyphenation Expert (talk) 10:04, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Hyphenation Expert: It was violated by you, as the page has the history of being moved by another editor before Rosguill. I have just moved it to the original version (when the page was created, even before 2011). Just discuss it Maliner (talk) 10:09, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just go and open a discussion, as your move has been objected to by different editors here. Period. Maliner (talk) 10:23, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Slight correction. The 2011 move was performed by JaGa, Rosguill didn't move it until last week. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 14:14, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

robertsky, I have no strong opinions one way or another on this question and am bemused that this has become such a point of contention. I will note that MOS:APO doesn't really cover the current situation explicitly--its guidance related to disambiguators is if another article exists with the same title and the name article is not the primary article, which doesn't clearly apply here as the longterm status quo has been a disambiguation page at Tamara, not an article. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 12:34, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your argument, MOS:APO, is a Wikiproject essay, mine is a Wikipedia policy, WP:CONCISE. I don't understand why are so fixated on this issue but okay. The Blue Rider 15:02, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see now that you also reverted my move from Fiona to Fiona (name), you just want to pick-up a fight, huh. I would expect better from someone with 15+ years of experience editing Wikipedia... The Blue Rider 15:22, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Orkun Uşak → Orkun Usak (currently a redirect back to Orkun Uşak) (move · discuss) – His last name is Usak, Uşak is a relatively common (though less common than his real name) misspelling. – anlztrk (talk | contribs) 14:43, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was going to move it, however the external links in the article all show his surname as Uşak, and when I looked him up about 2/3 of the sources referred to him as "Uşak". I think a Requested Move may be needed in this case. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 01:29, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Isa bin Ibrahim → Isa Ibrahim (currently a redirect back to Isa bin Ibrahim) (move · discuss) – Standardisation of Malay names, no need for disambiguation Pangalau (talk) 05:04, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is there any sourcing to support this move? Those that I can see seem to call him "Isa bin Ibrahim" — Amakuru (talk) 09:37, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Amakuru, Pangalau Google ngrams shows a preference in the last 30 years for "Isa Ibrahim", but I'm not sure if there are other individuals by that name that might be getting picked up (although the trend for "Isa Ibrahim" starts before Andrew Ibrahim was born). --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 13:25, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ahecht: I mean yes, you only need to click through to the results underpinning the ngram to see that almost all of them pertain to someone other than this individual. In fact, I haven't yet found any source that omits the bin, but perhaps there could be some. Either way I don't think the common name is that. — Amakuru (talk) 13:32, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Amakuru Fair enough. I had assumed at first glance that that was recentism, but when I actually tried just filtering to 20th century sources the results for "Isa Ibrahim" mostly seem to originate from Nigeria, not Brunei. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 17:20, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ahecht: To my knowledge, the only other biography with this similar name is Andrew Ibrahim. Additionally, the redirection from Isa Ibrahim was initially made for Andrew, but was later changed to Isa. There could be other people in the world with that same name but might not be notable enough to have an article written about them. Bruneian news website tend not to exclude the individual's status and rank therefore it could be used as it does not fit the standardization naming convention of Malay names on Wikipedia. An example would be Anwar Ibrahim. Pangalau (talk) 13:32, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Isa Ibrahim" was used by the OECD in their publication, Economic Outlook for Southeast Asia, China and India 2019, the Russian embassy in Brunei and National Archives of Singapore. Pangalau (talk) 13:39, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Disney Channel (European, Middle Eastern and African TV channel) → Disney Channel (Europe, Middle East and Africa) (currently a redirect back to Disney Channel (European, Middle Eastern and African TV channel)) (move · discuss) – Look at the discussion for the "Cartoon Network (Central and Eastern Europe)" entry here and the RM at Talk:Channel 33 (Israel) for the rationale. Intrisit (talk) 20:48, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Intrisit Start an RM for these mass changes. There is not unanimous consensus for this format, and it does appear to contradict a relevant guideline, so this is not uncontroversial. C F A 💬 22:14, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

CitizenLab → Go Vocal (move · discuss) – Company rebranded in June 2024 and the page should reflect the new name Sören3300 (talk) 07:15, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sören3300 See WP:NAMECHANGES and WP:OFFICIALNAME. C F A 💬 13:40, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a third-party news source confirming this name change. https://www.govtech.com/biz/engagement-tech-firm-citizenlab-rebrands-as-go-vocal This wrong name on Wikipedia is causing issues with how our company is being shown in Google SERPs :) Sören3300 (talk) 14:15, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

https://queststudio.be/case/a-global-brand-to-build-stronger-more-engaged-democracies/

https://democracy-technologies.org/participation/citizenlab-becomes-go-vocal/

https://democracy-technologies.org/participation/ai-in-digital-participation-tools/ Sören3300 (talk) 15:16, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@CFA would this suffice as sources/proof the page should be moved? Sören3300 (talk) 06:53, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

register (keyword) → Register (keyword) (move · discuss) – No need for lower case title, cf. Static (keyword). Rodney Baggins (talk) 13:35, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rodney Baggins: The title is not actually lowercase. It displays as such because of the {{lowercase title}} template. You can remove it and it will display with a capital letter. C F A 💬 13:36, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Which sources use anything other than an lower case title? Not only is it not upper case, it is usually formatted as <code>register</code> by sources. 70.50.89.179 (talk) 01:40, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Emmasofia → Psynapse (currently a redirect instead to List of Inhumans) (move · discuss) – Company has changed its name, current Psynapse article is just a redirect to a list of minor comic characters with no inbound links. Belbury (talk) 12:41, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Belbury It doesn’t appear that the Oslo company is the primary topic based on page views. Currently Psynapse and Psynapse (comics) combined have about as many page views as Emmasofia. So per WP:NOPRIMARY instead we can establish a DAB page at the base name by moving the current Psynapse to Psynapse (comics) (to preserve the page history as the base name article used to be an article before it was merged and turned into a redirect, so we need to preserve its history) and then link to the existing comic redirect and create a new page for the Oslo organization at Psynapse (organization) Raladic (talk) 21:39, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anti-ballistic missile → Anti–ballistic missile (currently a redirect back to Anti-ballistic missile) (move · discuss) – Per MOS:PREFIXDASH. A redirect already exists at that name. — DocWatson42 (talk) 13:00, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@DocWatson42: It's not at all clear to me that the anti- is attached to "ballistic missile" rather than "ballistic", i.e., that it should be treated as "anti–ballistic missile [missile]" rather than "anti-ballistic [missile] missile". It's also spelled as antiballistic missile, which suggests that a hyphen would be more correct. This move is potentially controversial, so it would require a requested-move discussion, which you can begin by clicking "discuss" on your request. You can remove this request after opening a discussion (or if you do not want to continue). SilverLocust 💬 22:23, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry—the spelling is "anti-ballistic missile" throughout the article, but upon checking I found that you are correct—the correct spelling is "antiballistic missile", at least in American English. The Cambridge Dictionary does not list any of the variations. (I only just noticed your link to the Encyclopædia Britannica.) I infer from your comment that I need to start a new move request, rather than changing this one, in order to move the article to "antiballistic missile"—is that correct? —DocWatson42 (talk) 22:39, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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