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Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
- Determine which speedy criterion applies
- Tag category page with
{{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
or{{subst:cfm-speedy|Merge target}}
- List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Request may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}}
with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on G7.
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:
- Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}
. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.
Speedy criteria
[edit]The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes
[edit]- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
- Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices
[edit]- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names
[edit]Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name
[edit]- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
- Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.
C2E: Author request
[edit]- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous page
[edit]- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use
{{subst:cfm-speedy}}
(speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article).
Admin instructions
[edit]When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions
[edit]- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here
[edit]If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
* REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:
* NO BOTS [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 12:34, 18 August 2024 (UTC). Currently, there are 110 open requests (. )
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Current requests
[edit]Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).
- Category:World Rowing Federation to Category:World Rowing – C2D: World Rowing recently renamed JFHutson (talk) 12:34, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Singer with The Tallis Scholars to Category:Singers with The Tallis Scholars - plural is the usual naming convention Cnbrb (talk) 11:49, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Bond University chancellors to Category:Chancellors of Bond University – C2C: Consistency with categories under Category:Chancellors by university in Australia WikiEditor50 (talk) 11:17, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Bond University Vice-Chancellors to Category:Vice chancellors of Bond University – C2C: Consistency with categories under Category:Vice-chancellors by university in Australia and remove hyphen per university usage (https://bond.edu.au/our-university/leadership-and-governance/university-executive) WikiEditor50 (talk) 11:09, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:H.E.A.T albums to Category:H.E.A.T (band) albums – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 03:19, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Violence journals to Category:Journals about violence – C2C; aligns with sibling cats in Category:Works about violence. Anomalous+0 (talk) 01:16, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Elijah Muhammad family to Category:Family of Elijah Muhammad – C2C. Mclay1 (talk) 00:30, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Haksan Culture Company titles to Category:Haksan Publishing titles – C2D; main article Haksan Publishing has been stable at that name for years. Link20XX (talk) 22:34, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- I have only tagged the category now. Ymblanter (talk) 05:20, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Louis Farrakhan family to Category:Family of Louis Farrakhan – C2C. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:36, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Malcolm X family to Category:Family of Malcolm X – C2C. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:35, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colin L. Powell family to Category:Family of Colin Powell – C2C. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:32, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Women Speakers of the Seimas to Category:Women speakers of the Seimas – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:55, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Women Presidents of the Bundestag to Category:Women presidents of the Bundestag – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:54, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Women members of State Parliaments in Germany to Category:Women members of state parliaments in Germany – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:53, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Presidents of State Parliaments of Germany to Category:Presidents of state parliaments of Germany – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:53, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Members of State Parliaments in Germany to Category:Members of state parliaments in Germany – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:53, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- NOBOTS Category:High-importance A-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:A-Class Palaeontology articles of High-importance – C2C: Unfinished conversion to the standard format of category-intersection. Template:WikiProject Palaeontology and Wikipedia:WikiProject Palaeontology/Articles by quality statistics will need to be edited as well. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 18:39, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- NOBOTS Category:Low-importance A-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:A-Class Palaeontology articles of Low-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Mid-importance A-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:A-Class Palaeontology articles of Mid-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Top-importance A-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:A-Class Palaeontology articles of Top-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Unknown-importance A-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:A-Class Palaeontology articles of Unknown-importance
- NOBOTS Category:High-importance B-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:B-Class Palaeontology articles of High-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Low-importance B-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:B-Class Palaeontology articles of Low-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Mid-importance B-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:B-Class Palaeontology articles of Mid-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Top-importance B-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:B-Class Palaeontology articles of Top-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Unknown-importance B-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:B-Class Palaeontology articles of Unknown-importance
- NOBOTS Category:High-importance C-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:C-Class Palaeontology articles of High-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Low-importance C-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:C-Class Palaeontology articles of Low-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Mid-importance C-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:C-Class Palaeontology articles of Mid-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Top-importance C-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:C-Class Palaeontology articles of Top-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Unknown-importance C-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:C-Class Palaeontology articles of Unknown-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Low-importance Category-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:Category-Class Palaeontology articles of Low-importance
- NOBOTS Category:NA-importance Category-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:Category-Class Palaeontology articles of NA-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Low-importance Disambig-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:Disambig-Class Palaeontology articles of Low-importance
- NOBOTS Category:NA-importance Disambig-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:Disambig-Class Palaeontology articles of NA-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Low-importance Draft-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:Draft-Class Palaeontology articles of Low-importance
- NOBOTS Category:High-importance FA-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:FA-Class Palaeontology articles of High-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Low-importance FA-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:FA-Class Palaeontology articles of Low-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Mid-importance FA-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:FA-Class Palaeontology articles of Mid-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Top-importance FA-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:FA-Class Palaeontology articles of Top-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Unknown-importance FA-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:FA-Class Palaeontology articles of Unknown-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Low-importance FL-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:FL-Class Palaeontology articles of Low-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Mid-importance FL-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:FL-Class Palaeontology articles of Mid-importance
- NOBOTS Category:High-importance GA-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:GA-Class Palaeontology articles of High-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Low-importance GA-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:GA-Class Palaeontology articles of Low-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Mid-importance GA-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:GA-Class Palaeontology articles of Mid-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Top-importance GA-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:GA-Class Palaeontology articles of Top-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Unknown-importance GA-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:GA-Class Palaeontology articles of Unknown-importance
- NOBOTS Category:High-importance List-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:List-Class Palaeontology articles of High-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Low-importance List-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:List-Class Palaeontology articles of Low-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Mid-importance List-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:List-Class Palaeontology articles of Mid-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Top-importance List-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:List-Class Palaeontology articles of Top-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Unknown-importance List-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:List-Class Palaeontology articles of Unknown-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Low-importance NA-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:NA-Class Palaeontology articles of Low-importance
- NOBOTS Category:NA-importance NA-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:NA-Class Palaeontology articles of NA-importance
- NOBOTS Category:NA-importance Project-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:Project-Class Palaeontology articles of NA-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Low-importance Redirect-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:Redirect-Class Palaeontology articles of Low-importance
- NOBOTS Category:NA-importance Redirect-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:Redirect-Class Palaeontology articles of NA-importance
- NOBOTS Category:High-importance Start-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:Start-Class Palaeontology articles of High-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Low-importance Start-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:Start-Class Palaeontology articles of Low-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Mid-importance Start-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:Start-Class Palaeontology articles of Mid-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Top-importance Start-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:Start-Class Palaeontology articles of Top-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Unknown-importance Start-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:Start-Class Palaeontology articles of Unknown-importance
- NOBOTS Category:High-importance Stub-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:Stub-Class Palaeontology articles of High-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Low-importance Stub-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:Stub-Class Palaeontology articles of Low-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Mid-importance Stub-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:Stub-Class Palaeontology articles of Mid-importance
- NOBOTS Category:NA-importance Stub-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:Stub-Class Palaeontology articles of NA-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Top-importance Stub-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:Stub-Class Palaeontology articles of Top-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Unknown-importance Stub-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:Stub-Class Palaeontology articles of Unknown-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Low-importance Template-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:Template-Class Palaeontology articles of Low-importance
- NOBOTS Category:NA-importance Template-Class Palaeontology articles to Category:Template-Class Palaeontology articles of NA-importance
- NOBOTS Category:High-importance Unassessed Palaeontology articles to Category:Unassessed Palaeontology articles of High-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Low-importance Unassessed Palaeontology articles to Category:Unassessed Palaeontology articles of Low-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Mid-importance Unassessed Palaeontology articles to Category:Unassessed Palaeontology articles of Mid-importance
- NOBOTS Category:Unknown-importance Unassessed Palaeontology articles to Category:Unassessed Palaeontology articles of Unknown-importance
- Category:Pro-Vice-Chancellors of the University of Oxford to Category:Pro-vice-chancellors of the University of Oxford – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES Hey man im josh (talk) 18:33, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Pro-Chancellors of the University of Birmingham to Category:Pro-chancellors of the University of Birmingham – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:28, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:VDCs in Saptari District to Category:Village development committees in Saptari District – C2C: Naming convention of Category:Village development committees (Nepal) Gjs238 (talk) 13:16, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:ICC T20 World Cup navigational boxes to Category:ICC Men's T20 World Cup navigational boxes – C2C: To match the parent category Category:ICC Men's T20 World Cup and parent article ICC Men's T20 World Cup. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 11:07, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:ICC T20 World Cup squad navigational boxes to Category:ICC Men's T20 World Cup squad navigational boxes – C2C: To match the parent category Category:ICC Men's T20 World Cup and parent article ICC Men's T20 World Cup. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 11:07, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Captains General of Venezuela to Category:Captains general of Venezuela – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 07:37, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Cultural depictions of Governors-General of the Philippines to Category:Cultural depictions of governors-general of the Philippines – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:40, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Captains General of the Philippines to Category:Captains general of the Philippines – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:37, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Military Governors of the Philippine Islands to Category:Military governors of the Philippine Islands – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:35, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Governors-General of the Philippines to Category:Governors-general of the Philippines – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:34, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Presidential Advisers on the Peace Process of the Philippines to Category:Presidential advisers on the peace process of the Philippines – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:30, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:National Security Advisers of the Philippines to Category:National security advisers of the Philippines – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:28, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Assistants to the President of the Philippines to Category:Assistants to the president of the Philippines – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:26, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Advisers to the President of the Philippines to Category:Advisers to the president of the Philippines – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:24, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Neon drafts to Category:Neon (company) drafts – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 18:40, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ports and harbors of The Bahamas to Category:Ports and harbors of the Bahamas – C2A, lowercase "the" for consistency with all other subcategories of Category:The Bahamas. Wikishovel (talk) 13:49, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- The Bahamas is one of only two countries in the world where "The" is always capitalized as part of its official name, the other country being The Gambia. All the other subcategories are incorrectly named, and should have the "The" capitalized. See this source and please do not rename this category: https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/adjectives-adverbs/capitalize-the-before-country-names/ Silvertide goldwaves (talk) 17:39, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Opposed requests
[edit]- Category:Negros Island to Category:Negros – C2D. HueMan1 (talk) 00:22, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- I am afraid I would prefer this to go through the full discussion, since it has obvious potential for misuse. Ymblanter (talk) 05:24, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Shrines to the Virgin Mary to Category:Shrines to Mary, mother of Jesus – C2C: per Category:Mary, mother of Jesus. Also C2D. Mclay1 (talk) 00:40, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
Oppose. I see that Mclay1 moved the article from Shrines to the Virgin Mary to Shrines to Mary, mother of Jesus two weeks ago. Marian shrines might be a preferable title, per ngrams. Ham II (talk) 12:50, 17 August 2024 (UTC)- @Ham II: Surely we should move the category to match the current article name (which is consistent with other Mary articles and categories) and then have a discussion on the article talk page about renaming the article? No point having two different names in the meantime. Mclay1 (talk) 15:55, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- OK, that's fair. I've struck my opposition and will do an RM at some point. Ultimately I think this category should be at Category:Marian shrines and Category:Holy wells of St Mary should be at Category:Marian holy wells. Ham II (talk) 06:59, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- Procedural oppose, this is not uncontroversial, considering the parallel discussions in full CfD. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:12, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- Those discussions are related to visual art, which for some reason gets its own exception to the normal guidelines. This one is not. Mclay1 (talk) 00:20, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Procedural oppose, this is not uncontroversial, considering the parallel discussions in full CfD. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:12, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- OK, that's fair. I've struck my opposition and will do an RM at some point. Ultimately I think this category should be at Category:Marian shrines and Category:Holy wells of St Mary should be at Category:Marian holy wells. Ham II (talk) 06:59, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Ham II: Surely we should move the category to match the current article name (which is consistent with other Mary articles and categories) and then have a discussion on the article talk page about renaming the article? No point having two different names in the meantime. Mclay1 (talk) 15:55, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Titans (mythology) to Category:Titans – C2D: per Titans. Previously speedied the other way just before the article was moved to the current title. Mclay1 (talk) 13:36, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Not speediable because of Titan. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:38, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm. I really don't like that rule, especially if its been speedied one way per C2D but then can't be reversed even though it would still be under the original name had it not been moved in the first place. Mclay1 (talk) 06:14, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. This seems easy to confuse it with many sports teams. Mason (talk) 00:07, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Not opposing, just an observation.) Mason (talk) 00:07, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- True. Mclay1 (talk) 12:09, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. This seems easy to confuse it with many sports teams. Mason (talk) 00:07, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm. I really don't like that rule, especially if its been speedied one way per C2D but then can't be reversed even though it would still be under the original name had it not been moved in the first place. Mclay1 (talk) 06:14, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Not speediable because of Titan. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:38, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lu state people to Category:People of Lu (state) – C2C
- Category:Chu state people to Category:People of Chu (state) – C2C
- Category:People from Shu (state) to Category:People of Shu (state) – C2C Yinweiaiqing (talk) 03:00, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. How are these C2C? I oppose changing from FOO to of FOO because the norm has been to rename in the opposite redirect.Mason (talk) 00:09, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: These are pretty clearly C2C looking at Category:Zhou dynasty people by state, Category:Chu (state) (article is Chu (state)), Category:Shu (state) (article is Lu (state)). Hey man im josh (talk) 18:24, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'd be fine with People from Lu (state), because the norm is from, not of. Mason (talk) 00:47, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh: are you ok with "from" too? If not, this should go to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:13, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle: Category:Zhou dynasty people by state has 17 categories, three of which were part of this nom. I don't feel particular strongly, but I would expect that someone would immediately follow up with the other 13 categories in that category that use "people of", to make it consistent. I would also very much appreciate a link to a discussion that led to consensus about using "people from" instead of "people of", preferably on my talk page, for my own reference and notes to share to others in situations like this. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:51, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh: are you ok with "from" too? If not, this should go to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:13, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'd be fine with People from Lu (state), because the norm is from, not of. Mason (talk) 00:47, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: These are pretty clearly C2C looking at Category:Zhou dynasty people by state, Category:Chu (state) (article is Chu (state)), Category:Shu (state) (article is Lu (state)). Hey man im josh (talk) 18:24, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Netflix television dramas to Category:Netflix original television series – C2C. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 16:14, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy: The current name follows the name format for subcats in Category:Drama television series by network, and multiple subcats of Category:Netflix original programming don't follow the proposed format. The rename would also change the scope from drama to all television series. Mclay1 (talk) 13:54, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: @Mclay1 There's a subcat Category:Netflix original television series episodes and Category:Netflix original documentary television series, so what do you mean by "
..don't follow the proposed format..
"? And the former should be under this cat when renamed not in the parent cat. The scope should really change as all sources, be it reliable or not, label all of them as Netflix original series not Netflix television dramas. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 19:50, 12 August 2024 (UTC)- I mean not all of the Netflix categories follow that format, such as Category:Netflix original anime. Also, drama is a genre. Not all Netflix original series are dramas. Your proposal requires another CfD. It's not speediable. Alternatively, you could create it as a new category, and this category would be a subcategory, but I'd say it's unnecessary since Category:Netflix original films already exists and so all other content in Category:Netflix original programming is series or specials, though I guess the category could be diffused into three subcats for those things (films, series, specials). Mclay1 (talk) 12:11, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: @Mclay1 There's a subcat Category:Netflix original television series episodes and Category:Netflix original documentary television series, so what do you mean by "
- Oppose speedy: The current name follows the name format for subcats in Category:Drama television series by network, and multiple subcats of Category:Netflix original programming don't follow the proposed format. The rename would also change the scope from drama to all television series. Mclay1 (talk) 13:54, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion
[edit]- None currently
Moved to full discussion
[edit]- Category:Statues of the Virgin Mary to Category:Statues of Mary, mother of Jesus – C2C. Mclay1 (talk) 01:13, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Move to full discussion. I don't think this will be uncontroversial. Wikipedia:Category names § Works of art categories by subject could come into play here, although "Virgin" tout court, rather than "Virgin Mary", is what tends to appear more often in titles of artworks. Ham II (talk) 12:50, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Mclay1 (talk) 16:23, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Move to full discussion. I don't think this will be uncontroversial. Wikipedia:Category names § Works of art categories by subject could come into play here, although "Virgin" tout court, rather than "Virgin Mary", is what tends to appear more often in titles of artworks. Ham II (talk) 12:50, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Sculptures of the Virgin Mary to Category:Sculptures of Mary, mother of Jesus – C2C. Mclay1 (talk) 01:12, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Move to full discussion; see Category:Statues of the Virgin Mary above. Ham II (talk) 12:50, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prints of the Virgin Mary to Category:Prints of Mary, mother of Jesus – C2C. Mclay1 (talk) 01:11, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Move to full discussion; see Category:Statues of the Virgin Mary above. Ham II (talk) 12:50, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Paintings of the Virgin Mary to Category:Paintings of Mary, mother of Jesus – C2C: per Category:Mary, mother of Jesus. Mclay1 (talk) 01:11, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Move to full discussion; see Category:Statues of the Virgin Mary above. Ham II (talk) 12:50, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Virgin Mary in art to Category:Mary, mother of Jesus, in art – C2C: per Category:Mary, mother of Jesus and Category:Portrayals of Mary, mother of Jesus, in film. Mclay1 (talk) 01:10, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Move to full discussion; see Category:Statues of the Virgin Mary above. Ham II (talk) 12:50, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Paintings of the Assumption of the Virgin to Category:Paintings of the Assumption of Mary – C2C: also C2D. Mclay1 (talk) 01:08, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Move to full discussion; see Category:Statues of the Virgin Mary above. The Wikipedia:Category names § Works of art categories by subject argument applies most strongly here. Ham II (talk) 12:50, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Moved this one to its own full discussion. Mclay1 (talk) 16:07, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Move to full discussion; see Category:Statues of the Virgin Mary above. The Wikipedia:Category names § Works of art categories by subject argument applies most strongly here. Ham II (talk) 12:50, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Militant Korean independence activists to Category:Militant activists for Korean independence – C2C: To match parent category Category:Activists for Korean independence, which was recently renamed in a move discussion from Category:Korean independence activists seefooddiet (talk) 00:30, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Move to full. I support the rename, but... I want to take this to full because this category doesn't seem defining. There's no parent category for Category:Militant activists. How is this different from the parent category Category:Korean guerrillas? Mason (talk) 00:05, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:43, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- Move to full. I support the rename, but... I want to take this to full because this category doesn't seem defining. There's no parent category for Category:Militant activists. How is this different from the parent category Category:Korean guerrillas? Mason (talk) 00:05, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Baseball people by Canadian province or territory to Category:Canadian baseball players by province or territory – C2C. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:45, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. That isn't the standard. Category:Sportspeople by Canadian province or territory and sport shows that it's "Canadian province or territory", which makes sense, as it's not a random province or territory but a Canadian one. Gonnym (talk) 19:18, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Moved to full Cfd. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:55, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- This was relisted. – Fayenatic London 10:49, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. That isn't the standard. Category:Sportspeople by Canadian province or territory and sport shows that it's "Canadian province or territory", which makes sense, as it's not a random province or territory but a Canadian one. Gonnym (talk) 19:18, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
Ready for deletion
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