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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Consensus reached, including the nominator. (non-admin closure)‎ Geschichte (talk) 18:41, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

South Treatment Plant

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Unremarkable lump of infrastructure. Can't see that the sources establish notability. TheLongTone (talk) 15:31, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Seriously? Sewage treatment plants are not notable, claiming they are is just a metaphor for rot that has set in here. Apologies, I should have said that sewage plants are run-of-the-mill and this should be deleted because of WP:Run-of-the-mill. Please, please, please click on the above voters category and take in the awesome# of sewage plants on wikipedia before closing this as "keep". apologies for that. Please somebody If this closes as delete I will nominate prod all those sewage plants for deletion.!!! James.folsom (talk) 07:33, 6 January 2024 (UTC) edit:James.folsom (talk) 20:38, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @James.folsom, I don't know if this AfD will close as "delete" but please look at these before you take it on yourself to delete every sewage treatment plant article:
    You've referred here and elsewhere to WP:Run-of-the-mill -- that is an essay. It is a non-binding opinion piece.
    Deletion decisions are based on the guideline and policy above, not an essay.
    What's run of the mill and uninteresting to you may have value to others - and vice versa. One of the two articles you've created is Dettol antiseptic liquid. Most readers probably don't care and might say a household cleaner is run-of-the-mill. But your article meets our policy and guideline, so it stays, run-of-the-mill or not. WP:IDONTLIKEIT is not a policy.
    There are engineers and others that are interested in infrastructure articles like South Treatment Plant.
    See also Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion. You need to think about what the alternatives to deletion will be as part of your purge strategy. That's going to take some work on your part -- creating lists or merging content into existing articles. --A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 02:32, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • comment Firstly, those who voted keep should take a look at WP:OTHERSTUFF. As noted above, there are many many articles of eye-watering non- notable subjests on WP. Seconly, I do not see any sources that are not routine coverage in local sources. Wikipedia is not solely for people in Renton.TheLongTone (talk) 15:25, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per the adequate sourcing found in the article. Wikipedia may not be solely for the people of Renton but it is for them as much as any other people. Also Wikipedia is not paper (i.e. it has room for niche topics that paper encyclopedias might eschew). Eluchil404 (talk) 23:07, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 19:40, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Coverage in sources used is largely local in nature, describing the stuff that happens at a sewage plant, upgrades, etc. Very much run of the mill. Beyond confirming it exists and does what it's supposed to, I can't see anything that makes it notable. Sourcing isn't anything you wouldn't find in any local newspaper, telling local taxpayers what their money is spent on. Oaktree b (talk) 23:16, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I don't see any reason that sewage treatment plants generally and this one specifically do not meet our notability guidelines. jengod (talk) 04:29, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Comment I think it's nice that we can take sewage treatment plants for granted as invisible infrastructure that is so unremarkable it doesn't warrant mention in the histories. However, I think the human history of dying of cholera, and the ongoing effect of eutrophication on ocean biodiversity tell me that sewage treatment is actually Very Important. (My local treatment plant started out in the 20s using a hollowed-out redwood log as the flume that poured the sewage directly into the ocean!) jengod (talk) 04:29, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The idea of treating sewage & methods of doing so are notable. Individual plants generally will not be.TheLongTone (talk) 14:54, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think you're probably right. I might even change my vote (but I'm sad about losing knowledge). Do we have notability guidelines for specific infrastructure or are they generally classified as "architecture"? jengod (talk) 15:32, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 23:41, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Pump Station Project Increases System Capacity." Pacific Builder and Engineer, vol. 115, no. 5, 2 Mar. 2009, p. 10. Gale Business: Insights, https://link.gale.com/apps/doc/A194951504/ Accessed 19 Jan. 2024.
’’’Keep’’’ or ‘’’Merge’’’ as above. Major public infrastructural projects etc. that affect local society and environment and receive media coverage for doing so are notable. (also, it’s a very cool building, from the photo.) Llajwa (talk) 16:07, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The merge is rather newly suggested. Thoughts regarding this would be very helpful, including if desired from anyone who commented above.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Seraphimblade Talk to me 07:13, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Just and additional argument to my delete vote. Somebody, kindly recently explained something about WP:GNG. That is that to meet that policy an article needs secondary sources. This doesn't have any, I've not found any. Somebody should make sure the merge targets meet WP:GNG as well.James.folsom (talk) 23:32, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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