Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oxford University Labour Club

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep. -- King of Hearts | (talk) 00:37, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oxford University Labour Club

This is the club of local party members at a university. I'd tag it nn-club, as happened with Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hull Universtiy Labour Club, but there's been a little bit of work on a history section for this one, so I'm bringing it up here. Thesquire (talk - contribs) 20:11, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Keep Eh, Oxbridge student political societies are highly notable. Many UK political lives start here - read the article please - look at the former members, and observe that Tony Blair's son is currenly secretary.--Doc ^ask? 20:39, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Gosh. Never thought that I'd see the day that someone nominated something like this for deletion. I suppose it just goes to show. Speedy keep, obviously. James F. (talk) 20:40, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep Did you read the page??? Look at all the bluelinks about former members. Morwen - Talk
Speedy Keep- even Chinese google couldn't object to this article. Astrotrain 20:54, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I fully admit to being an ignorant American. However, on this side of the pond student orgs are generally not considered notable - not even Harvard's political orgs have articles. -- Thesquire (talk - contribs) 21:02, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- and yet, there is Skull and Bones. I've no opinion on whether this is more or less 'notable' than Harvard, but it's definitely something that people could write books on. People will go to Oxford and Cambridge specifically to join the societies there and then will get famous. What's next, Cambridge Footlights? Morwen - Talk 21:10, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - Skull and Bones is a secret society/fraternity, which in my mind at least is a different animal than, say, the Yale College Democrats. -- Thesquire (talk - contribs) 23:25, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    - Why? Have never any notable politicians started their careers in the Yale College Democrats? Why would that be any less relevant? u p p l a n d 23:40, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      - They might've, but with the US's federal structure there are usually a few stops between one's college days and landing a national political post. It's not usually seen as something having a direct impact (that is, unless you're talking about Abramoff and his ilk, but they're a rather special case) -- Thesquire (talk - contribs) 03:48, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
        I can easily recognize the English situation in what I know from Sweden, where student societies (political and others) play a significant role in the education and networking of future politicians and other Important People. That things are different in the US may have to do with the political structure, as you say, but I wonder if the American division between college and graduate school may not also play a part. u p p l a n d 07:29, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
strong keep, perfectly notable and no reason to delete _└^UkPaolo/_talk^┐ 23:15, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep The subject of this article is a notable student organisation, unlike the Hull University version. Many prominent former members mean that this satisfies the relevant WP criteria for an organisation. (aeropagitica) 23:16, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep. Clearly notable. Why should we have a general rule against student societies? u p p l a n d 23:28, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- P.S. But as with the other two university labour clubs, I suggest removing current office holders from the article. As Nicky Blair is the secretary here and apparently considered notable enough for an article, I suppose he could be mentioned somewhere, but listing the others is just vanity. u p p l a n d 23:40, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. viz the Porcellian Club at Harvard University, too. -Ikkyu2 07:01, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for bringing that article to my attention. If no one squawks on that article's talk page in a week or so, I'll make it a redirect to Final club. -- Thesquire (talk - contribs) 07:33, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - I just added a tidbit to the Porcellian Club article. I actually fail to see any reason not to keep that page. u p p l a n d 09:36, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per other votes. --King of All the Franks 07:30, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. If you go to a rubbish university like Oxford, you don't deserve being told you're non-notable too. David | Talk 12:56, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Obvious keep --- Charles Stewart^(talk) 21:51, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as above --kingboyk 19:39, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per many above. Batmanand 13:26, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.