Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jean-Yves Mallat
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was redirect to Athletics at the 1984 Summer Olympics – Men's 100 metres. Database entries are not considered significant coverage, as generally speaking they are mere lists of basic facts/statistics without elaboration. It is not unreasonable that the nom would not have mentioned the database entry in their nomination. Redirecting rather than deleting as WP:ATD. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 03:19, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
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I can't find any significant coverage 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 03:33, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 03:33, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lebanon-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 08:42, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- Delete we lack sufficient significant source coverage to justify an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:52, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to Athletics at the 1984 Summer Olympics – Men's 100 metres per WP:ATD, WP:PRESERVE, WP:R#KEEP and WP:CHEAP. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 07:52, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Keep and tag with refimprove. Failing that, redirect to Athletics at the 1984 Summer Olympics – Men's 100 metres per Lugnuts and WP:PRESERVE, etc. The nom says
I can't find any significant coverage
. Well, I immediately found this and I wonder how much more there is out there in Lebanese sites and in books about athletics, the Olympics, Lebanese sport, etc. Johnpacklambert, why do you vote delete when SIGCOV is only a guideline whereas PRESERVE is editing policy? Surely it is obvious that a redirect helps any future editor who does have access to a book about Lebanese athletics. Would you please THINK about an article's potential before going for the delete option? Say, for example, we have two English footballers whose articles are both one-liners with a single source. One of them played in a handful of EFL matches, the other is a long-term non-league player who has never represented an EFL club. Common sense must tell you that the former has notability potential and that, per PRESERVE, his article should be redirected (perhaps permanently, perhaps temporarily) to an appropriate list of players. The non-league player does not have notability potential and his article should of course be deleted. Persistent demands for delete in the face of PRESERVE is a major cause of conflict within AfD. NGS Shakin' All Over 10:38, 30 April 2022 (UTC)- Wikipedia does not have a grandfather clause. Just because someone spent 3 minutes creating an article along with a few dozen others or maybe even hundreds that day does not make that a subject that Wikipedia has to cover forever for all time in some way. That is what we would end up being the case if we preserved every minor mention of anyone.John Pack Lambert (talk) 23:42, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Olympics-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 11:00, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- For the record, the one source NGS cites above is a completely trivial mention. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 11:15, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- For the record, if the nominator had done a thorough BEFORE, they would have found the World Athletics site and should then have mentioned it in the nomination as the only other source found. It is by no means the first time that this editor has failed to complete a thorough BEFORE. NGS Shakin' All Over 12:52, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- For the record, the one source NGS cites above is a completely trivial mention. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 11:15, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT #5. Redirect is not suitable, as there is a Lebanese race car driver by the same name; see 2005 Eurocup Mégane Trophy and 2004 FIA GT Zhuhai 500km. BilledMammal (talk) 13:48, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to Athletics at the 1984 Summer Olympics – Men's 100 metres. Couldn't find any significant coverage on the subject, none is present in the article and the one posted here in the AfD is a database listing. Alvaldi (talk) 13:56, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect. to Athletics at the 1984 Summer Olympics – Men's 100 metres. Per Lugnuts. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 16:17, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
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