Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Flags of country subdivisions (2nd nomination)
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The result was keep. czar 04:15, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
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WP:NOTGALLERY, WP:NOTDIRECTORY. The vast majority of these have no source, no context, and aren't even important enough to be discussed in the article on the country subdivisions itself. Thankfully the list is very incomplete, as the country subdivisions has more than 1,000 country subdivisions apparently. Heraldrist (talk) 02:53, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Heraldrist (talk) 02:53, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete as per WP:NOTREPOSITORY. A page about regional, sub-national flags might be notable in itself, but it would be sufficient to include several regional or provincial flags as examples. Chagropango (talk) 06:43, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Should we rollback all the way down back to this revision? Alexphangia Talk 07:16, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep in some form. I can see why this mess got nominated but this article wasn't always like this and there is scope to get it back on track. Alexphangia's suggestion is plausible. If we were to revert to that version, remove the red "flag of" links and strip out any duplicates then that would certainly be an improvement. We could then go through the current version and see which of the more recently added flags are demonstrably valid. That might not be easy as it is perfectly legitimate for people to upload self-created versions of flags and it is not obvious who is basing them on real flags with official status. I picked one of the Armenian ones as a test. (The fact that it had a lot of magenta in it made me wonder how genuine it was given that pure magenta is not a colour normally seen in genuine flags with a long history as it is a relatively new colour only made possible with modern pigments.) Is there any provenance to prove it genuine? Not that I can see? Is it fake? I doubt it. It is in multiple articles in multiple languages. You would think that somebody would have noticed. Is it official or unofficial? Your guess is as good as mine. I don't want to accuse anybody of deliberately uploading fake flags but we do need to take care that we don't conflate unofficial flags with official ones. --DanielRigal (talk) 13:25, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
DeleteWe are not Vexillopedia. This can just as easily be managed with a Commons cat, without being a WP:NOT-worthy terrible idea either. Heraldrist (talk) 01:51, 31 July 2022 (UTC) (your deletion nomination is considered your "Delete" vote, you can not vote twice. Liz Read! Talk! 02:32, 6 August 2022 (UTC))
- Keep in a different form. I agree with DanielRigal's suggestion for an alternative to deletion. Flagvisioner (talk) 04:41, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep we just only adding more flags from the list, until the list is complete. I agree I was interested in flags, France, and heraldry. I sure I am not a sockpuppet, even I was never have been blocked and I never editing sockpuppet accounts.
- Keep, fulfils WP:LISTCRIT and can be made exhaustive with some effort (i.e., to include all the country subdivision flags in the world). Those who sugest swapping it for Commons categories are welcome to read WP:CLN. — kashmīrī TALK 00:12, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
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