Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Entrepreneurs' Organization

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The result was keep. (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 10:55, 30 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Entrepreneurs' Organization

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no evidence for notability . beyond 1 human interest story in LATimes & promotional content including list of founding members, most of them non-notable DGG ( talk ) 15:31, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar ♔ 22:47, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The sources are excretable. But notability is not a problem; see some example sources for notability I added to the Talk page. Inc. Magazine says "perhaps the best known of several groups that emerged during the 1990s to offer educational opportunities and other kinds of support to young business owners" in their encyclopedia entry (which is apparently sourced from a business copywriting company but check and see what you think). Time magazine lists the organization as a columnist. Reports of chapters in Japan (since 1995) and Russia (since 2003) (when the organization was still called "Young Entrepreneurs' Organization") are easy to find. With a 1987 founding, there's little news to report, so I'd expect that sources are going to either be old (so also check offline) or about local chapters/events. But again, notability is not the problem. Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 10:56, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- none of those seem to be significant coverage about the organization. mere existence, even of lots of local chapters , does not establish notability. Being "the most notable" of my dogs does not make Sparky actually notable. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 11:10, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  - Did you look at the Inc. Magazine piece? http://www.inc.com/encyclopedia/young-entrepreneurs-organization-YEO.html A full page about the organization, what does that lack as significant coverage about the organization? Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 14:18, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    - Yes, i did see that. But I am not really sure what inc.com/encyclopedia is. if this is an encyclopedia about business, the fact at only 600 odd entries [1] , one of them is YEO (an organization that hasnt existed under that name in almost 10 years and has no significant coverage elsewhere), makes me question what exactly inc.com/encyclopedia really is, how it was created, for what purpose ,and strikes me as either a paid entry or COI, but not a particularly reliable source. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 03:27, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      - I mentioned on the talk page (but I see not here) that the source is called Reference for Business. I wasn't sure at first about reliability either. But I did a bit more digging just now and am now convinced that this is a 2002 version of an encyclopedia published by Gale. (see the Talk page if you want more details on why I think this.) I don't know what Advameg's connection is (e.g. whether they are a licensed provider, pushing content onto the web for publishers, or a suspect company -- they have other reference-like websites and an F BBB rating). So better to go straight to the (reliable) Gale source as this is in the 4th edition of the encyclopedia. Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 05:27, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, per Jodi.a.schneider. The Inc. Magazine article is huge in establishing notability on its own. --do ncr am 02:17, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Contained in the 4th edition of the Encyclopedia of Small Business, published by Gale in 2010/2011.Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 05:27, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Having an article there would indeed justify having one here. but based on the table of contents it doesn't seem to have an article of its own; perhaps you means it's mentioned in some other article? That's not sufficient evidence. DGG ( talk ) 00:35, 25 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi DGG, not sure if you spotted "Young Entrepreneurs' Organization (YEO)" in that table of contents. That is the old name of the Entrepreneur's Organization. (See e.g. the Inc. magazine encyclopedia, which I believe to be drawn from an older version of the same Gale encyclopedia; more on my reasoning is here, or we could just try to get ahold of a print/licensed electronic copy of the Gale article to verify.) Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 21:44, 27 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per per Jodi.a.schneider. Multiple sources establish notability ♥ Solarra ♥ ^{♪ 話 ♪} ߷ _{♀ 投稿 ♀} 03:24, 30 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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