Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brian Norton (engineer)

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The result was Keep. Michig (talk) 07:55, 10 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Brian Norton (engineer)

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I believe that this article was created by the subject of the article based on the fact that the article creators only contributions have been on this article and the affiliated article: Dublin Institute of Technology, and all edits to the page have been done by that person or other persons affiliated with the Dublin Institute of Technology based on analysis of user contributions and trends. David Condrey ^{log talk} 01:32, 3 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The nomination statement may well be true, but it doesn't contain any valid reason for deletion per WP:DEL-REASON. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 13:08, 3 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 13:08, 3 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:57, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:57, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

comment clearly promotional, and with conveniently unclickable refs, but the claim of notability makes this one not an instant dismiss under WP:PROMO - anyone want to go dredging the refs? - David Gerard (talk) 07:31, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Here's what I found:

Is behind a paywall at https://www.irishnewsarchive.com/, but this is probably similar
Found here
Can't find this via Google, the Irish News Archives, or the Irish Times archives. The name of the reference looks mangled. Might be similar to this article, which is paywalled but available via Google cache
If this is anywhere, it's behind a members-only login at the Public Affairs Ireland website
Is behind a paywall here. From the Google cache, looks like only a passing mention
Online here. The text doesn't mention Norton; the video is a 30-second speech by Norton advertising the new buildings
No idea where this is supposed to be from. "Astronomy Today" is a blog that doesn't mention Norton anywhere. There's a primary source here covering the announcement, but no media coverage I can find
The link is broken, this looks like the proper link. Confirms Norton's membership, but has no further detail
Is here

The rest look like things Norton himself wrote, so I won't bother to look them up. Google News turns up lots of articles quoting Norton, but none seem to cover him in substantial detail. If you ask me, I'd say that he fails WP:GNG, but probably qualifies under WP:NACADEMIC by virtue of being a university president and RIA member. 2602:306:3A29:9B90:608C:C2F8:2526:C3A4 (talk) 08:30, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

If we did a strict cull to RSes, how long do you estimate it would it be? A line? A para? Two? - David Gerard (talk) 10:14, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Looks to me like a pass of WP:Prof 6. The person has held a highest-level elected or appointed administrative post at a major academic institution or major academic society and WP:Prof 3. The person is or has been an elected member of a highly selective and prestigious scholarly society or association. President of Dublin Institute of Technology (Evidence via one the refs listed http://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/prof-brian-norton-reappointed-as-dit-president-1.1363627.) AND Elected to Royal Irish Academy (one of Ireland's premier learned societies and cultural institutions and currently has around 420 Members, elected in recognition of their academic achievements. WP page) (Evidence https://www.ria.ie/news/membership/admittance-day-2016). These would seem to me to meet this. Looks like needs tidying rather than deleting. (Msrasnw (talk) 13:55, 4 October 2016 (UTC))[reply]

Keep. Member of the RIA and President of DIT. Clearly meets the criteria of WP:PROF. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:37, 5 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep with a severe cull - WP:TNT this BLP, rewrite from RSes - David Gerard (talk) 16:17, 5 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep -- I culled spam and unreadable content (moving some to Talk) and believe the current version (link) can be kept. K.e.coffman (talk) 23:11, 8 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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