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The Signpost: 25 September 2017

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Wikidata weekly summary #279

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Nomination for deletion of Template:PiemanRiverPowerDevelopment

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Template:PiemanRiverPowerDevelopment has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 18:10, 1 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #280

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Point Walter Good Article Nomination

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Hi there, We talked a while back when I was young and naive and thought I could edit Wikipedia to my hearts content and get all my studies done, which hasn't turned out to be successful (in that I haven't edited not that I've failed), but I remember you as a prominent figure in the Wikiproject Perth scene. Sorry if this isn't the place to go, or if you're not interested, but I've worked excessively on the page for Point Walter and I believe it could get to Good Article status. However, I've never nominated anything for good article before, and I wanted to check some things off with someone familiar with the subject and the process, which I imagine you are for both. I have a several issues beforehand for the article which I'm not sure need to be addressed before nomination:

  • Things that are actually part of nomination
  • 1b) "it complies with the manual of style guidelines for... list incorporation.
    • I had a bit of a read of this policy, and basically found that it's preferable for information to be listed in prose. However, in the geography section, there is a brief list which I don't know if the information contained would be contained in prose.
  • 2b) "all in-line citations are from reliable sources"
    • There are two sources that may raise issues, as of writing one of these is listed as source 20. It is a YouTube video, however, it is an official Melville City Council video from the official channel. The other source which I imagine will be more problematic is listed as source 22 as of writing this, and is by what appears to be a music reviewing subsidiary of Junkee, which I'm not 100% on in terms of reliability. However, it should be assessed as a standalone source, as Junkee was founded in 2013 and the article was published in 2007, so it appears Junkee bought the website 6 years later.
  • 2d) "it contains no copyright violations nor plagarism"
    • The text in the geography section is highly similar to the source's text. I attempted to change up the wording but I found it difficult to keep the wording concise while maintaining all the relevant information.
  • 3a) "it addresses the main aspects of the topic"
    • It is possible for me to go into a section on conservation, pulling parts from the flora and fauna section about pests and endangered species, and the erosion section, as well as including other information on weed management. However, that could be too in detail, which leads me into 3b
  • 3b) "# it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style)."
    • I am slightly worried some of the information in the history section being perceived as too detailed, as I found it all interesting while researching, and despite my best efforts to cut information (such as about all the members of the Caporn family and the heritage listing of buildings etcetera), I feel like I may have gone too deep into it.
  • Things that aren't actually part of the nomination
  • Other issues I have with the article include: this website which is a source used expresses confusion over whether the state government purchased the site in 1907 or 1895. As later in the article it refers to it as 1907, I wrote that in the Wiki article, but should I specify that there is confusion?
  • There is a section in the page which says: "Point Walter is notable for the sandbar or spit that extends over 1 km into the river, sections of which are often submerged under high water." A spit is a different geographical entity from a sandbar, and it is called a spit in some sources and a sandbar in others. Since I couldn't get a geological survey of the land I just wrote that, which could be perceived as problematic. How would you address this?
  • I may have taken inline sources a bit too far, listing 2 sources 4 times in the text, and 1 source 5 times. I'm not really sure around policies around this.
  • Now we move onto the image section: modern photographs in the article are pretty trash (low quality), except for that nice panorama. The page image is on a noticeable tilt, and the last picture is very grainy. I am going down tomorrow to take better ones, but I won't be getting any from the other side of the river because that's a trek. According to the copyright section on the image from 1924, photographs "taken prior to 1 January 1955" are out of their copyright, which makes up most of the photographs on Trove. However, our article on Australian copyright confused me, because it makes it out that it has nothing to do with the date of the photo being taken, instead that it's all about when the author dies. Idk, and I don't really want to upload photos that could be in copyright without affirmation I'm in the right. To get some nice photos in the article, I'm trying to get in a nice collage of the birds which nest on the sandbank, so take that into account when you look at the image quality. I asked on the help desk here how I would go about doing that.

Well, they're all my grievances about the article, and looking at that, there's a lot, so if you can be bothered, can you answer some of my questions before a possible good article nomination? Cheers - JoshMuirWikipedia (talk) 13:57, 8 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Re: great to see

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Yep, exactly. I've always thought that if we could have the editor base of 2005/06/07 combined with today's technical and social infrastructure, we could do even more amazing things. Graham87 15:10, 8 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What's the social infrastructure around here like of late? Back when I was a wiki-kid social media was still in nappies itself. Has Wikipedia adapted much in that area? -- Longhair\talk 16:01, 8 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This Month in GLAM: September 2017

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Wikidata weekly summary #281

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Revitalisation projects

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Mitch Ames (talk) 12:40, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Mount Tambora

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I have nominated Mount Tambora for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:15, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Western New Guinea

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Hi JarrahTree,

I do not have yet much experience with Wikipedia, but I feel my understanding of and my skills to using the different Wikipedia tools will grow with time. Thank you for your warnings and recommendations.

As to the edit war in the Western New Guinea page: Davidelit reverted a couple of sentences I had added based on a lack of references. Fair enough. Now that I understand how to encode new references, I have undone the suppressions by Davidelit, edited the text and added two reliable references.

As to the POV issue: I am not aware of academic work that contradicts the two references that I have added.

All the best

Philippe

Wikidata weekly summary #282

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Wikidata weekly summary #282

Talkback

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You just smashed/murdered thousands of bacteria! Jim1138 (talk) 08:44, 17 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Books and Bytes - Issue 24

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Issue 24, August-September 2017

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New Page Reviewer Newsletter

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Hello JarrahTree, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

Backlog update:

  • The new page backlog is currently at 12,878 pages. We have worked hard to decrease from over 22,000, but more hard work is needed! Please consider reviewing even just a few pages a day.
  • We have successfully cleared the backlog of pages created by non-confirmed accounts before ACTRIAL. Thank you to everyone who participated in that drive.

Technology update:

  • Primefac has created a script that will assist in requesting revision deletion for copyright violations that are often found in new pages. For more information see User:Primefac/revdel.

General project update:


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The Signpost: 23 October 2017

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Autoblock

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I am so sorry about the accidental block - I saw the accounts reported to AIV and thought it was some kind of impersonation attempt :/ I've unblocked the accounts. Regards, GABgab 01:27, 7 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Project rater script

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My new project assessment script is available, see User:Evad37/rater. It's not yet complete and may have some bugs, and might be a bit slow to load, but you can try it and see how it goes. - Evad37 [talk] 04:15, 7 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This Month in GLAM: October 2017

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Headlines
  • Australia and New Zealand report: Adding Australian women in research to Wikipedia
  • Brazil report: Integrating Wikimedia projects into the Brazilian National Archives GLAM
  • Bulgaria report: Botevgrad became the first wikitown in Bulgaria
  • France report: Wiki Loves Monuments; Opérations Libres
  • Germany report: GLAMorous activities in October
  • Italy report: Experts training on GLAM projects
  • Serbia report: Wikipedian in residence at Historical Archives of Subotica; Model of a grain of wheat exlusivly digitized for Wikimedia Commons; Cooperation of the Ministry of Culture and Information and Wikimedia Serbia - GLAM presentations and workshops for museums, archives and libraries
  • Spain report: Women Writers Day
  • Sweden report: Swedish Performing Arts Agency; Connected Open Heritage; Internetmuseum; More Working life museums
  • UK report: Scotland's Libraries & Hidden Gems
  • Ukraine report: Wikitraining for Librarians; Library Donation
  • USA report: trick or treat
  • Wikidata report: WikidataCon & Birthday
  • WMF GLAM report: News about Structured Commons!
  • Calendar: November's GLAM events
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Wikidata weekly summary #286

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Just off hand. Can you help me stop going off my 'nana'?

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Jarrah. Could you throw some light on a slight puzzle?

We have Ngaanyatjarra. It's just my guess, but they appear to correspond to the alternative name Tindale supplies for the Nana, i.e. Ngan:adjara (1974 p.249)

Tindale for the Warburton Ranges area has Ngadadjara, which I assumed is what is now written as Ngaatjatjarra. We don't have an article on these.

In contemporary scholarship the Ngaanyatjarra/Ngaatjatjarra are people speaking mutually intelligible dialects (Inge Kral, Talk, Text and Technology: Literacy and Social Practice in a Remote Indigenous Community, Multilingual Matters, 2012 isbn 978-1-847-69759-2 )

D'ya reckon it's okay for me to make the otherwise (speciously?) WP:OR inference that Tindale's Ngadadjara are what we now spell out as the Ngaatjatjarra, and create a page with that data under the latter name? I've convinced myself it's okay but with all this ethnonymic confusion, ya never-never no.Nishidani (talk) 16:07, 14 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Forrest Chase - WikiProjects

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Re: edit summary here - if you did not intend to delete the two WikiProjects, feel free to put them back. Mitch Ames (talk) 00:38, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Companies in and of the country

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I notice you created Category:Trucking companies in Australia, which I put into Category:Transport companies of Australia, then I notice all the others in the latter were ... of Australia. I was going to request a speedy rename of the new cat, but Wikipedia:Category_names#Miscellaneous_.22of_country.22 and Wikipedia:Category_names#Miscellaneous_.22in_country.22 suggests that "in" is correct and "of" is wrong. I don't suppose you're motivated enough to raise a CfD to change all the "of"s ... Mitch Ames (talk) 00:25, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Naeraberg

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As you know, I've been out of the loop for a while. What to do about the duplication of Commons links on the article Naeraberg. You're an administrator over there are you not? Do you usually merge things of this type, since I believe we're talking about the same ship in two different places. You'll note one of the Commons categories has a list of names as a header intact. Over to your Commons expertise :D -- Longhair\talk 12:52, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your Message

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Sorry, I don't really know what you mean as to why I put the message down the bottom. Could you please explain it clearly as to what you are trying to tell me? AllyGebies (talk) 01:46, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #287

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Wikidata weekly summary #287 Global message delivery/Targets/Wikidata

The Signpost: 24 November 2017

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Hi. We're into the last five days of the Women in Red World Contest. There's a new bonus prize of $200 worth of books of your choice to win for creating the most new women biographies between 0:00 on the 26th and 23:59 on 30th November. If you've been contributing to the contest, thank you for your support, we've produced over 2000 articles. If you haven't contributed yet, we would appreciate you taking the time to add entries to our articles achievements list by the end of the month. Thank you, and if participating, good luck with the finale!

Wikidata weekly summary #288

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ArbCom 2017 election voter message

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Hello, JarrahTree. Voting in the 2017 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23.59 on Sunday, 10 December. All users who registered an account before Saturday, 28 October 2017, made at least 150 mainspace edits before Wednesday, 1 November 2017 and are not currently blocked are eligible to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2017 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:42, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #289

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This Month in GLAM: November 2017

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Wikidata weekly summary #290

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New Page Reviewer Newsletter

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Hello JarrahTree, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

Backlog update:

  • The new page backlog is currently at 12713 pages. Please consider reviewing even just a few pages each day! If everyone helps out, it will really put a dent in the backlog.
  • Currently the backlog stretches back to March and some pages in the backlog have passed the 90 day Google index point. Please consider reviewing some of them!

Outreach and Invitations:

  • If you know other editors with a good understanding of Wikipedia policy, invite them to join NPP by dropping the invitation template on their talk page with: {{subst:NPR invite}}. Adding more qualified reviewers will help with keeping the backlog manageable.

New Year New Page Review Drive

  • A backlog drive is planned for the start of the year, beginning on January 1st and running until the end of the month. Unique prizes will be given in tiers for both the total number of reviews made, as well as the longest 'streak' maintained.
  • Note: quality reviewing is extremely important, please do not sacrifice quality for quantity.

General project update:

  • ACTRIAL has resulted in a significant increase in the quality of new submissions, with noticeably fewer CSD, PROD, and BLPPROD candidates in the new page feed. However, the majority of the backlog still dates back to before ACTRIAL started, so consider reviewing articles from the middle or back of the backlog.
  • The NPP Browser can help you quickly find articles with topics that you prefer to review from within the backlog.
  • To keep up with the latest conversation on New Pages Patrol or to ask questions, you can go to Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers and add it to your watchlist.

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Books and Bytes - Issue 25

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  • Spotlight: Research libraries and Wikimedia
  • Bytes in brief

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The Signpost: 18 December 2017

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Wikidata weekly summary #291

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It's that time of the year again...

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JT. No fancy template, but just wishing you all the best for the holidays and the new year. It's probably a bit warmer where I am than where you are in WA 😎 Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:37, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas!

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Seasons' Greetings

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...to you and yours, from the Great White North! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 16:15, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #292

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New Years new page backlog drive

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Hello JarrahTree, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

Announcing the NPP New Year Backlog Drive!

We have done amazing work so far in December to reduce the New Pages Feed backlog by over 3000 articles! Now is the time to capitalise on our momentum and help eliminate the backlog!

The backlog drive will begin on January 1st and run until January 29th. Prize tiers and other info can be found HERE.

Awards will be given in tiers in two categories:

  • The total number of reviews completed for the month.
  • The minimum weekly total maintained for all four weeks of the backlog drive.

NOTE: It is extremely important that we focus on quality reviewing. Despite our goal of reducing the backlog as much as possible, please do not rush while reviewing.


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Happy New Year!

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Wikidata weekly summary #293

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Wikidata weekly summary #294

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This Month in GLAM: December 2017

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Wikidata weekly summary #295

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The Signpost: 16 January 2018

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Grubb's Tramway (Zeehan)

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It had a comma, not a full stop.--Grahame (talk) 01:05, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Javanese script

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It's been two years, but I have been bothered by these edits for a while as well. This misses proper context and is irrelevant, as not everyone has installed the Javanese font and not everyone is able to read this. Meursault2004 (talk) 09:24, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #296

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WatchlistSorter.js

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Hi,

I noticed your comment over at Evad's talk page, about how you tried to use this, and that your watchlist was too big.

If you don't mind my asking...

How big is your watchlist?

(Mine has over 6,800 pages in it, and it used to have over 8,000.)

I'm just trying to get a feel for what size this script will handle painlessly.

I look forward to your reply (please {{ping}} me when you do), The Transhumanist 08:19, 27 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@The Transhumanist:, it was close to 50k  :) I see your device usefull for lists @ 10k or less JarrahTree 09:07, 27 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, fifty thousand. That's huge. Nice.
How many days do you have your watchlist set for in your preferences? It would be nice to know if WatchlistSorter.js can handle this many at 1 days, 2 days, ..., 7 days, etc. Mine is set at 30 days which maxes out at 1000 edits shown. The Transhumanist 12:26, 27 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I would prefer offline on this stuff, I dont like sharing my inner most details that much JarrahTree 23:41, 27 January 2018 (UTC