User:NikhtaSt, a new user who leaves incivil comments on user talk pages. Already has three warnings. Let's keep an eye on him. --Gp75motorsportsREV LIMITER 15:41, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
He's still harassing that poor other user for being a sock of Christian 07; could he be blocked? I'm on Wikibreak and editing from an IP, so I can't do a sock report myself. Thanks.--Porcupine (prickle me!·contribs·status)
Hey there :)
I just finished editing a certain entry.. and after I had performed the editing I noticed that the entry's old talk page turned blank. I was wondering whether you can help me with locating it and bringing it back online. Also, I wish to find out what is the procedure of officially removing a "disputed" label from an entry. I am not sure how users communicate in Wikipedia, and I would kindly ask you to leave a message in my talk page if possible.... Thanks! :) [User:Sheerian]
Ms Julie is .. unavailable .. this month, so Isaac and Gopher have stepped in to put this newsletter thing together. We may not be as funny as you're used to, but if you'd like a free drink, come see me at the bar. That might help. Maybe. And no, there aren't any flashing lights or fancy pictures this month - I'm still recovering from a whopping hangover. Julie's recovering too, but that's a story I'll let her tell.
Two New Featured Articles (and...)
Emma Goldman was promoted to Featured status on 2007December 27. If you don't know Ms. Goldman, she was a Lithuanian anarchist. Aren't many of those around, really, so having one of our very own is special. She'll be dancing the Cha-Cha on the Promenade deck later tonight.
Ann Bannon was promoted to Featured status on 2007December 3. Faithful readers may remember Moni moaning that we didn't mention this promotion in the last newsletter. Happy now?
The marathon efforts of Dev920 against her astonishing abilities of procrastination continued this month, and she managed to update the Portal's main articles. Whether she will finally beat her procrastination pixies in submission and update the biographies remains to be seen, but Jeffpw has leapt to the rescue and taken it upon himself to do all our lovely news. Friends, lend us your goodwill and your eyeballs, and mosey on over to see all Jeff's hard work.
Also, back in October 2007, Allstarecho and Benjiboi worked diligently on the "WP:LGBT Random Quote" and "WP:LGBT Random Picture" sections of the portal. They added many new quotes and pictures but, and yes here's the cat's meow friends... you can now use these on your own user pages! To add the "WP:LGBT Random Quote" to your own userpage, use: {{Portal:LGBT/Quotes}} And to add the "WP:LGBT Random Picture" to your own userpage, use: {{Portal:LGBT/Pics}} If you'd like to see it in action, check out Allstarecho's userpage for both in action and Benjiboi's talk page for the Quotes in action!
The long, slow race toward FP status continues...
Bisexual Awareness Month
Folks in Utah are celebrating Bisexual Awareness Month. For our own wikicelebration, Alison suggests we try to bring Bisexuality at least up to good article status. Working on the Utah article would be encouraged, but do it stealthily - they don't like us to be *too* open.
A cunning plan
In a move sure to bring her fame and fortune at last, Dev920 (talk·contribs) has proposed that an FA buddying system be set up, to help nudge frightened tikes who also happen to write killer ass articles over that initial first FAC hurdle. Anyone interested in shepherding duties, or anyone interested in being made to lie beside still waters (handcuffs are optional), do drop Dev an RSVP so she can start battering those darned pixies...
Zigzig20s has mentioned a desire to work on .. desire. Specifically literature by and about LGBT desire. To facilitate "LGBT Literature" taskforce, there will be shuffleboard and lesbian fiction on the foredeck later in the afternoon. Signup if you're interested.
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SatyrBot (talk) 23:29, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Fisherqueen, I accidentaly made this page called Template: User dogs, and I really want to delete it but I can't. Can you help me? (Strix Struma (talk) 04:14, 21 January 2008 (UTC))
I just referred this user to Metros, who didn't do anything, so I cam here, 'cuz I knew you would. This is an editor I am thoroughly ashamed to have welcomed. She has amassed her four warnings IN HER ONE DAY ON WIKIPEDIA. Could you do me a favor and block her? Thanks. --Gp75motorsportsREV LIMITER 20:42, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Is it intentionally spelled it as a side allussion to the cosmetic or the Khmer or is rogue meant? (I'm just a math teacher, I can't keep up with allusions. Thanks, Rich (talk) 20:03, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
New Year's Resolution I'd wager, looking at her contribs. Good on her, I hope she's having more fun IRL than we've ever had here. BTW, I just popped in to say hello to HRH FQ and all of her minions. I'm on a "brief" Wikibreak that has gotten rather lengthy as I realized, once away, that I was spending wayyy too much time here. (Well, not here on FQ's talk, but on Wiki in general.) I do miss hanging out with you guys, but I need to stay away until I'm able to better moderate my time here. Take care everybody!! --But|seriously|folks 05:52, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
I was wondering if you could take some time out of your schedule to head over to the Heroes (U.S. TV series) talkpage and give us an honest peer review. The page has gone through some major changes in the last few months, and it would be fantastic if a prominent editor/contributor like yourself, could head over and give us at the Heroes Wikiproject some sound opinion and ideas on improvements for the page. We have all worked very hard at improving the page, and we need great outside, reliable and trustworthy users to come over and help us improve. I you are interested in joining the peer review discussion with other prominent users/contributors, much like yourself, please follow the link. Thank you very much for your help and your continued effort to improve Wikipedia and its quality! Wikipedia:Peer review/Heroes (U.S. TV series)/archive2--Chrisisinchrist (talk) 05:12, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Recently the article Eli C. Minkoff has come under heavy vandalism quite recently by the same IP adress and it's been really hard to revert it...could you help please? You took the article down awhile ago and recently I've been trying to re-build it legitimately with references and everything but I could use help. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Salvorix (talk • contribs) 04:30, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
The animal rights activist sorts are going after the rodeo articles again. Can you watchlist rodeo, calf roping, Saddle Bronc and Bareback Riding, and bull riding for a bit? I am up to my eyeballs working on WikiProject Equine and the horse breed articles, so I really don't have time to source and put out these rodeo brushfires. Plus, last month the stridently pro-rodeo crowd was screaming about how the article was written by "bunny huggers." I don't rodeo but am familiar enough with the sport to see both sides, hence, I just edit the articles with as much of an NPOV as I think is possible, given the topic. But right now, I am swamped. Any help appreciated. Thanks. Montanabw(talk) 20:16, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
It is still on the article Eli C. Minkoff but this time, if you look at it, the vandal(s) who are operating under the IP adresses 24.218.42.195 and 71.174.48.89 and now they are using extremely profane language that is directed not towards the article but the article's creator (I myself helped create the article). This has gone completely out of hand and I would appriciate you reviewing this vandalism and doing whatever is nessicary to prevent it from happeneing again. It is extremely consistant. I already did 3 undos today. Thank you very much! 71.184.93.221 (talk) 04:19, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Fisherqueen, somebody vandalized my page. I just wanted to know if you could help me fix it? If not, I would appreciate your trying. Also, can you tell me who vandilized my page if you can find out? Thank you so much, Fisherqueen. (Strix Struma (talk) 23:56, 9 February 2008 (UTC))
I was really worried that my page wouldn't be able to turn back to normal, but thank you so much for fixing it. I just wanted to say thank you! By the way, a user, Duchess Elizabeth or Elisabeth introduced me to Wikipedia. So I wouldn't mind it if you said thanks to her, and again, I just wanted to say THANK YOU. (Strix Struma (talk) 02:28, 12 February 2008 (UTC))
I dimly remember reading here -- I hope it was here -- about an amusing incident you had with an individual who wanted to edit multiple articles to reflect the barefoot status of individuals contained therein, whether real or fictional. I hope my memory has served me well -- you may want to check out User:Darkfighterman. And my apologies in advance if this leaves you scratching your head in bafflement. Accounting4Taste:talk 03:07, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Project member Moni3 has been working on the article for Barbara Gittings and noted that the Lambda Literary Foundation used the lead paragraph from Wikipedia, skillfully and lovingly written by Moni3, verbatim in the Lambda Literary Pioneers calendar. Moni3 contacted the Lambda Literary Foundation to let them know, and to ask if we could get a little write-up in the next Lambda Book Report. There is a preliminary text you can find here. Feel free to add to it. It should be no longer than 1,000 words, and it needs to be submitted by March 15.
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Hey, I know I haven't asked for your help since sometime last year or the year before that. There is a small problem on the talk page for Touch My Body in regards to a description of the music video. Also, do reverts include placing deleted information back into an article or just clicking the revert button. If so, not that I have checked, I suspect someone has been doing more than three reverts within 24 hours. Thanks for your help!!!--Mikéylicious & Really, Really Hot!!! (talk) 21:24, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
...poof... she's gone then she's HERE! WB. - Philippe | Talk 19:35, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
I was spending a little too MUCH time here, and needed a long break. You would be amazed how much more effective my teaching is when I use my planning bells for grading papers and calling parents instead of vandalfighting on Wikipedia. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 19:37, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, frankly, I think education is overrated. Just put 'em on Wikipedia and kill two birds with one stone. As a benefit, you get to see their little minds being warped right in front of you. - Philippe | Talk 19:42, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
You do NOT want my seventh graders on Wikipedia. We have enough vandalism already. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 19:43, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I think we've already seen your seventh graders on Wikipedia. Welcome back!!!!! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 19:49, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
I am not planning to be as active as I was, but I'll try to contribute in a moderate way. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 19:51, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Welcome back, FQ. :) GlassCobra 22:14, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm not back! You people can't suck me back in! I just am snowed in today. There's a blizzard. Really! -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:16, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
<---- But all the cool kids are doing it... - Philippe | Talk 23:25, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
I am absolutely 100% positive that this is not what the cool kids are doing. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 23:26, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
afternoon. I am trying to make a very simple creation for our company. yet you keep saying it is 'blatent advertising' I am using almost the exact same words as the body shop, please help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Madmaverick (talk • contribs) 22:21, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes, that is correct. You will not be able to add an advertisement for your company to Wikipedia, even a simple one, because as an employee of the company, you have a conflict of interest. In addition, the advertisement you created was obviously an advertisement, not a neutral encyclopedia article, and it did not include reliable sources that would verify the notability of your company. It won't be appropriate for you to create an article, but don't worry; if your company truly is notable, then it is inevitable that one of your many customers will create an article about it, and you won't need to do a thing. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:24, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
you keep saying that it is "obviously an advertisement" for stating what the company does, then how do I request that 'The Body Shop" is taken down, and Bath & Body Works' is taken down. I did not post anything different than in what they have posted. It is almost verbatum. then how do i create an entry for Salus for for folks who are not wiki savy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Madmaverick (talk • contribs) 22:28, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Those businesses are unquestionably notable; it is is not at all clear whether this business is notable. You can, of course, use the Articles for Deletion process to request that they be deleted, but since those companies are very notable, you will not be able to make a good case for their deletion. In addition, there is no appropriate way for you, as an employee, to create an article about this company. If you are interested in making the encyclopedia better, you can help by using reliable sources to improve our coverage of other topics, but if your only interest is promoting your company, I'm afraid that Wikipedia is not a place where you can do that. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:33, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
I am not an employee.... how is "SALUS is a Private Bath & Body Care company founded in 2003 and is a registered trademark and service mark of Mad Maverick, LLC. In July 2007, SALUS opened its first retail location in Manitou Springs, Colorado." advertizing"???????? .. by our company I am refering that I know the owner Elissa..
also by noteable wouldn't a registered tradmark/service mark by the US Patent Office have some merit?
Instead of asking me what notable means- and no, a trademark, which anyone can easily get, doesn't confer notability- why not read the notability criteria for yourself? They clearly define which subjects are so important that an international encyclopedia needs articles about them. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:40, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
1) I am not ...receiving monetary or other benefits or considerations to edit Wikipedia as a representative of an organization
2) I am not ..expect to derive monetary or other benefits or considerations from editing Wikipedia
registered trademark.. easy to get ... i actually take offense to that as you do not know how the US Patent office not the trademark process, they take over two years of legal work to get a registered trademark, (I am not refering to just a statement of trademark).
You are focusing on the wrong problem. The major problem is that this company does not appear to meet the notability criteria. To show that it really does, just add sources- the major business journals, newspaper articles, and book publishers that have written about the importance of this company. If this company is notable, that will be easy to do. If it is not, then nothing else you say can stop deletion. I've already 'appealed' it, as you can see- instead of deleting it myself, I've tagged it for review by another administrator. But since there's nothing in the article that makes any serious claim to notability, that admin will delete it. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:49, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
catch 22 -- what ever we say is 'blatent advertising' or if I put in nothing, then it is not 'notable', this makes no sense..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Madmaverick (talk • contribs) 22:53, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Now you understand the conflict that makes it inappropriate for people with a connection to the company to write about the company- I'm glad you get it. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:56, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
no i dont get it. this (wiki) is a joke... you cant put in benign information unless it meets guidelines, but then these guidelines are subjective to an admin...
You have read the notability criteria, right? I've linked to them at least four times. They're delightfully objective. If your company met them, you'd simply have added links to three or four reliable sources. Complaining about how unfair the admins are instead of just meeting the guidelines is, of course, the classic response of someone whose business doesn't meet the guidelines. Do you want to hear a funnier joke? Wikipedia is a hugely popular web site, and turns up quite high in google searches. If SALUS really is a notable business, of course, then googling the business's name will bring up the many people who have written about it. But if it isn't, starting the next time Google's webcrawlers scan Wikipedia, googling the name will bring up this conversation, pretty high in the queue, in the first few pages. Anyone searching for the business will see that the business is run by someone who has a lot of difficulty with understanding and following rules, and they'll get a pretty bad impression of the company. But only if it isn't a notable company, and there aren't a lot of better hits for the name. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 23:08, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
notability... I have asked questions, your response is a threat????? and your response is a personal attack on me, and a company? very represenative... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Madmaverick (talk • contribs) 23:13, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
What threat? I don't have any power over what google's webcrawlers do. I can't make them do anything. That terms on Wikipedia do tend to move toward the top of google searches is just the way it seems to happen. If you think that this conversation isn't embarrassing to your company, I'm sure you're correct; after all, you know your customers better than I do. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 23:17, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
its sad that you cant tell the difference between "Complaining about" and asking questions about how wiki works. Then when a person asks for clarification you attack them again, and again with specific canned phrases. Its not about following wiki rules, but having questions on how wiki simply works. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Madmaverick (talk • contribs) 23:37, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes, that was pretty annoying for me. I gave you links to answers to all of your questions in my very first reply, and yet you kept asking the same questions over and over again. I never got the impression that you even read the answers I gave you... you seemed more focused on getting your ad on Wikipedia than on understanding the rules and following them. I remember my first day on Wikipedia; I really wanted to help write an encyclopedia, and I was careful to read some of the basic advice in the help files and make sure I understood the rules as I became more active. There are still areas where I don't make big changes because I don't understand the rules yet- for example, I'm baffled by the image use policies, so I don't do very much work with pictures until I can be sure I'm doing what the community has decided is best for the encyclopedia. I'm really clear on the notablity policy, and understand it very well, so I do a lot of work in the area of helping other people understand it. Every day, hundreds of business owners get the idea of creating a Wikipedia article about their small businesses, and most of them read the policies and understand why their articles get deleted. Some of them even get excited about the encyclopedia and stick around to make really useful contributions. Some of them get annoyed that Wikipedia isn't what they want it to be, a sort of MySpace without the annoying music, where anyone can advertise, and go away. Some of them keep recreating the articles until they get blocked. And some of them ask the same questions over and over again, hoping that eventually they can get a different answer. This isn't a new conversation for me; review my talk archives, and you'll see that I've had it many times, though it's been a long time since someone took this long to read the rules. It's fine; I have a laptop, a glass of wine, and season four of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and I'd be glad to link to them again. The notability criteria for companies. The conflict of interest guidelines. The reliable source guidelines. They have answers to every question you've asked me and lots of questions you didn't, and I linked to all of them in my very first reply to them, as well as briefly summing up what they were. Even if I broke the rules and didn't tag the article for deletion, it wouldn't matter, because someone else would; Wikipedia works because the whole community follows the same rules. I couldn't get around them even if I cared to. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 23:57, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Hey Queenie, wondered where you'd been as I didn't see you for awhile. Great to have you and your hilarious comments to the trolls and vandals back. My ALL TIME FAVORITE QUEENIE COMMENT is when the one user called you a "fag" and you calmly said something like "he just made a simple error in fact. I'm not a fag, I'm a dyke". !!! — Rlevse • Talk • 00:34, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
That's why it's so important to double-check your sources. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 00:36, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
ROFL, another one. You should start a comedy career! — Rlevse • Talk • 00:43, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi FQ - just to let you know this guy appealed his block. I have declined his appeal on the basis that your bock was fully justified (and frankly could have been indef.). Pedro : Chat 11:27, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm surprised you didn't yield to his completely reasonable argument that I was simply jealous of his superior intelligence and more complete understanding of the notability criteria. You're jealous of how intelligent he is, too, aren't you? Fascist. :) -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 11:29, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
His abilities make me realise how unfit I am :) BTW if you review this you mish wish to reconsider your block length ....... Pedro : Chat 11:31, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
I blocked him for a week, but he's coming back to troll tomorrow... I guess math is hard for him. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 11:32, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Indeed. A genius who can't count! I've fully protected his talk page to stop the trolling. A throw away account I think. Pedro : Chat 11:35, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm quite impressed by his education... I didn't even know that there was a university offering PhDs in notability policy. I think I'd like to enroll there. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 11:37, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
(ec) But he hold several PhD's! Can we not indef block him as he's clearly only here to make mischief? --NeilNtalk ♦ contribs 11:37, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Sure, I have no problem with changing to an indef. I was just occupied smacking someone else down... -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 11:38, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
I've struck out the comment this user made in this AfD, as the user was clearly only being disruptive. Could you confirm I was right to do this please. Many thanks. — Tivedshambo (t|c) 11:44, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
I don't have any particular problem with it. Dude needs a life. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 11:49, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I am not sure why the article I wrote on ZaaBiz was deleted. I think it is definitely worth a mention on WIKI. ZaaBiz comes up on every Google search and it's a new business networking site that is competing with other social & business noetworking sites that are listed here. I put {under construction} at the top of the page so I can finalise all the references that are needed. Where do I go from here?? Appreciate your help! --Nikki (talk) 12:14, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi! There's a long conversation just above this one, with the heading SALUS, with a business owner who had a similar problem. The short answer- you are only here to promote your business, as it appears from your contributions, and Wikipedia absolutely doesn't allow advertising. If your business is really notable, someone else will write about it. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 14:33, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
No problem - I had explained my reasons for blocking at the time. If it were a cooling off block (which as User:Nfitz correctly states is inappropriate) it certainly didn't work!! Thanks for the input. LessHeard vanU (talk) 21:07, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Hello, FisherQueen. Are you speaking Kiswahili?--Muddyb Blast Producer (talk) 10:19, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry, no, I don't speak Kiswahili. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 10:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
How did you get know to write LGBT rights in Tanzania? It seems you know to speak Kiswahili! Because how did you cite words Basha and Msenge, tell me how did you know? And don't feel as I'm embarassing you no. Its only I want to know!--Muddyb Blast Producer (talk) 10:33, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
I just used information from the sources in English that I cited on the article. I actually found it difficult to find many sources in English, which is why the LGBT rights articles I did for several African countries are very short. I'd like to go back and create articles for the other African nations that don't have one yet, but I found that even information on the law is hard to find in English, and information on LGBT culture and practice was impossible to find for most of the countries I researched; I got more details about Tanzania than about other African countries. The Africa series is a set of articles I go back to every now and then, though I haven't worked on them in a while. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 11:21, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the hints. But I'm giving you a new words which is legal to use in to society. You can use word "Shoga" the meaning of that word is "Msenge". Shoga is descently word than Msenge. Basha, Basha also you can use word "Mlawiti" or "Mfilaji" but this one (Mfilaji) also not good than "Mlawiti". If you want to know anything about Tanzania or any-words are newer in Tanzania regarding that article, I'll help you. So from now on let's just keep in touch if possible! Cheers,--Muddyb Blast Producer (talk) 11:43, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
I tried to put "{hangon}" before you delete the page. I have added Musti Laiton twice now, first time I managed to discuss about what I need to add to keep it alive too. I thought that I had all covered.
Musti Laiton is old finnish band with releases in US and Finland. The fact that Musti Laiton has contributed to the theatre world and is getting more and more attention from this field, it is considered that wikipedia page would be good idea.
I will add more about the theatre and soundtrack activities, but first I need the main page for the directors to add theur own stuff.
Can I retry?
Roope
UPDATE: did I write this in wrong place or why the radio silence?
No, I just didn't notice it. Can you put links to three newspaper or magazine articles confirming Laiton's importance here on my talk page? That's what the article was missing to show notability, and if sources do exist, then I can undelete the article and add those sources so that it doesn't get speedy-deleted again.
Hello, I truly appreciate the time you took back in 2007 to sort out the situation. I intervene this time basicly to get rid of total absurdity which User Dc76 keeps writing on Wikipedia, namely about imagined new name for Balti Steppe, thus ignoring not only common sense, but also Academy of Sciences of Moldova, European Commission, Britannica, etc. I live in the city, and even Moldovans who live outside know that it always existed (I know this is not a persuasive argument), it has been described in ancient works of world known travellers. In the article Balti Plain (to which redirects were made from Balti Steppe) you will find a very strange sentence at the end saying basicly that Russian speaking forced this name. It's totally strange. Steppe is an English word (yes with Russian etymology). I mean, one does not need to go to university to know about Beltsy / Balti Steppe. I put a tag for deletion of the article Balti Plain, cretaed by the same User Dc76, ignoring the consensus reached (anyway why would one need to look for consensus for something as evident as Balti Steppe, it's like seeking for consensus whether we should call Black Sea - White Sea), ignoring presented sources and scientifical research works, and presenting one source, an internet site with porn adds on it, which mentions the phrasing Balti Plain, although not specifying where do the sources come from). User Dc76 also modified sections of Geography of Moldova, to support his invention. Another user, I guess administrator, closed the whole discussion on the nomination for deletion page in couple of minutes the deletion log, harrassing me with allegations of POV, disruptive editing and threatening to "be wise" generally. No diff was presented for POV. Personally I do not appreciat ethis kind of approach, moreover, the renaming problems were discussed in 2007 in detail and I do not see why that user comes back with these insinuations. I am not editing so far anything and would like to see what you and other users will say. For references:[1] and [2]--Moldopodo (talk) 22:22, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
I think the best place to go for help with this dispute would be Wikipedia:WikiProject Eastern Europe; there are probably editors there who would weigh in. I don't feel that I understand the disagreement well enough to have a position. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 12:35, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi FQ, Just to let you know I added some info on the Psi Spy page as requested...
I've left a comment on the talk page and pretty much gutted the main page itself as there didn't appear to be any reliable sources, the tone was off for much of the content, and there were lots of references to subjects other than Psi Spy himself. The page can be expanded, but before this should happen the page should really assert notability per the music guidelines. WLU (talk) 12:56, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
I didn't say it before, but welcome back! I hope you don't mind the {{wikibreak}} tag to your user and talk pages, but you kept getting traffic asking for favours and I figured I'd spare them and you the grief. And welcome back, yay for wikipedia!! WLU (talk) 00:42, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
No, I appreciate it. Feel free to do the same thing again, if I go suddenly AWOL again. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 12:33, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
I feel ashamed for agreeing to unblock just because of who he is; Jimbo shouldn't be exempt from the rules regarding usernames. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 00:24, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
hello fisher queen. why did you remove my text about the role of governor in the amendment 66 ? I have also a videoclip where you can listen what he says. where can I publish this clip ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Repeater55 (talk • contribs)
Please post at the bottom of talk pages. WLU (talk) 12:41, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
I removed a paragraph that appeared to violate the neutral point of view policy, and which was not verified by the citation of a reliable source, and also a link to an online petition. You should review the linked guidelines before you restore anything; I see you've already replaced the inappropriate link, which I'll be removing momentarily. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 12:43, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi! I am new here, just getting a feel for the place, and was wondering why full dates did not have commas after them. For example: Flag Day was established on June 14, 2014, by President John Doe. I have noticed full dates do not have the comma.
I have a degree in English, and worked as a journalist, with approximately 10 years professional writing experience. I was taught to use the AP Stylebook so perhaps that is what of its quirks.
Good question- I had to actually look that one up. In the Wikipedia Manual of Style, it's correct that there's no comma after the date- here's the specific section. And here is a nice long conversation about commas from earlier this month, and another one from last month, from the MOS talk page. I wonder if this is one of those situations where the British English speakers and the American English speakers have different conventions? -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 20:20, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I misread it- the comma seems to be optional. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 20:21, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the speedy reply. I meant to type one not what but was distracted by one of the kids asking who was going to do dishes. You understood the question and answered it. Thanks.
I look forward to contributing to Wikipedia as it helps keep the brain cells in shape. I re-wrote the lead a bit for the UFO article and expanded the stub concerning Girga, Egypt. I am interested in all kinds of odd things and love history. Another nerd. LOL!
This is a good place for nerds, where our talents and our obsessiveness can be put to good use. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 20:33, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
dear admin : i wish to request you to kindly unprotect my user talk page User talk:Pearllysun and my user page and remove my block so that i may remove my personal infos and user talk infos so that i may quit wikipedia and lead a peaceful life ...moreover this block is unnecessary due to delete declaration of my article's ......this protection , talk page , userpage , a block on me all has made the worst impact in my personal and mental life , i suppose that the day i have entered here was the biggest mistake iv ever made ..... i hope not to repeat it ..... and i hope you would assist me to relieve from here....regards: User talk:Pearllysun
I am sorry that your experience on Wikipedia has been unsuccessful, and I see that you are continuing to have trouble refraining from editing further, although you are blocked. I've blocked the IP from which you left this message, and I implore you, if you are so unhappy with Wikipedia, to respect the block and stop editing. There doesn't seem to be any information on your user page that could identify you, so you may feel free now to quit Wikipedia and lead a peaceful life. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 20:31, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
I don't know the background of this user's case, and maybe I'm missing something, but it seems to me that it might not be a good idea to have account creation indefinitely blocked for the user's IP. While the account itself is clearly single-purpose vandalism and should be indefinitely blocked, the IP will likely be under a different account one day, so I think that a block of several months for account creation would make more sense. --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 20:33, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
For a user who is creating sockpuppets, it seems useful to disable account creation with the block- and if there's a way to have different lengths on the block and the account creation, I don't know how to do that. But I do know that, if the IP is reassigned to someone else one day, the process of getting it unblocked for a new user is pretty simple- I see them go through every day. Still, the tech side of Wikipedia is not my area of strength, so if someone watchlisting me has a fuller understanding of this area, I'd love to hear it.-FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 20:40, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
oi scum, please revert my edits on the 'Adam Harden' article as these facts are indeed true and they took me a long time to write and you have really wasted my time by deleting it.
I'm so sorry that your time was wasted. I'd be glad to restore the changes that you made. But first, I'll need you to provide a link to a newspaper article confirming that Harden was stabbed in the eye after a gay lovers' quarrel with a Sikh rapper. That will have been all over the papers, I'm sure, and yet I couldn't find any of the articles. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:16, 16 March 2008 (U
you actually looked...
but i did not write that part and you may delete it if you wish but please revert my part which has nothing to do with a sikh rapper and how would it be all over the papers it was a local incident... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jewface1222 (talk • contribs)
It's irrelevant in any case, as it turns out that the whole article is a fake, or at minimum just about some utterly non-notable person, and it'll all be deleted as soon as it clears WP:AFD. So you don't need to waste any more time on it.-FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:24, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
-Chimes in a thought- I thought, considering I live in Ireland, I would have heard of a British 16 year old child actor successfully sue a former male prostitute for £62,000,000,000,000, seeing as that would certainly have broken records AngelOfSadness talk 21:26, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
That's an enormous sum of money; I'm having trouble imagining what a prostitute could do that might justify those kinds of damages. You know, I didn't even know that prostitution was legal in Great Britain. I learn so much on Wikipedia. Maybe I could come to Ireland and hire a beautiful redheaded woman to show me a good time? -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:27, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
The sum of money really gets to me considering Bill Gates is apparently worth $50,000,000,000 (apparently also what Bangledesh is worth according to The Fabulous Life of...) and yet a male prostitute has ten times(it probably more like a hundred times (someone can't do maths today)) more money than the state of Bangledesh. It is really mind boggeling :) But I don't think prostitution is legal in Britain or Ireland at least the last time I checked. But if you do come to Ireland you might be dissapointed to find many natural redheads have either fled the country or dyed their hair but the can be found in small clusters of two or three.... AngelOfSadness talk 21:36, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
i'll continue to make these articles and it turns out that I am Adam Harden and made this article up about myself
Oh, guys, don't delete his messages! They're hilarious, and getting ungrammatical hate messages from teenaged twerps is what keeps me going! From what you say, if a prostitute can earn more than the whole value of Bangladesh, maybe I should dye my hair and move to Ireland. I'd whore for that kind of money. Or maybe the gay male ones get higher rates? -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:40, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Aw, he's blocked. I was just on my way over there to do it, but someone else beat me to it. I wonder if he'll find that creating another account is trickier than he expected? -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:42, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
I wonder how he'll return (Username wise (I'm hoping for a tribute and how are promised articles will be like (I have high hopes considering his earlier work :P). I'm not sure what the current prostitution rates are in Ireland or if the rates vary depending on the circumstances. But I knew that it was good money but from what I've learned today was nowhere near my expectations (-starts to wonder what is the highest paid whore in the world...to the Guinness World Book of Records away -) AngelOfSadness talk 21:49, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I agree entirely. He knew how to spell reasonably well, and what a kirpan is... three cheers for the British educational system! Definitely a cut above most of the high-school vandals we get around here. If he can just learn about capital letters, and some decent manners, he'll be a real asset to his crappy little island nation. It'll be delightful to block him again tomorrow, but I think I'm finished for tonight.
Bravo on that blocking template you just slapped on that John789789 character! I honestly believe that there should be more "lovely parting gifts" like this. Hopefully, it'll shame people from coming here and messing up the place. Again, bravo! --PMDrive1061 (talk) 21:28, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
I enjoyed making that template, and I tried to keep it subtle. but if the consensus among peers I respect is that it's inappropriate, I'll go back to using the standard one. It is slightly tinged with sarcasm, I confess. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:29, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Sarcastic, yet direct. That, madam, is an excellent template. I wish more vandals would request to be blocked, and I were an admin, so I could help them achieve their goals. WLU (talk) 22:01, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
A drunk lesbian is a happy lesbian. Join me for a glass?
re: his confusion here, I think the non-existent local misunderstanding stems from the AfD and specifically Exit2Dos2000's insistence that WP:LOCAL and WP:ORG never apply to anything. I think it's an innocent misunderstanding, he felt picked on and went off yesterday TRAVELLINGCARIMy storyTell me yours 23:15, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Oh, that would be confusing. Wikipedia's rules can be pretty arcane sometimes; after a year and a half I've just about mastered the basics, which qualifies me to be an admin. It's not hard to understand why s/he lost it, and I think the 48-hour block was an appropriate way to take a moment to learn a little more. I'm glad I happened by; I mistook this user for just another selfpromoter at first, but I think she could end up being really useful if she sticks around. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 23:17, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
agreed, I think the imbecile, etc. comments took us (there's an ANI thread that I can't get to load at the moment, but he picked on about 4 of us) by surprise because it was a good few days from the AfD's end and he started off in a positive manner. I guess it gets frustrating which is why I think AfD is often not a positive battleground for newbies simply from regulars rehashing the same arguments about new articles ad nauseum. I hope he sticks around and learns from this TRAVELLINGCARIMy storyTell me yours 23:24, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
I agree; learning to swim around here is like learning to swim where there's sharks... regulars at AfD are so used to the same old arguments that they don't usually bother to explain them fully, just wikilink to the same old policies, and that one seems to be more obscure than many. I agree, too, that I'd like to see this user hang around. I'm glad I stuck around to help her out, but now, I think it's time to sign off for a glass of wine and a cheesy lesbian romance movie. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 23:27, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
LMAO, *loved* your edit summary. Enjoy the movie, pour me a glass of wine before you go? :) TRAVELLINGCARIMy storyTell me yours 23:29, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
*sips* thank ya ma'am promises not to wiki while wining TRAVELLINGCARIMy storyTell me yours 23:47, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
WarthogDemon has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
I saw your block template. Appropriate or not, I laughed anyway. :P -WarthogDemon 02:43, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the invitation. I'm trying to stay away from the article because I have a strong bias against the Boy Scouts, but plenty of people might still have this page watchlisted and be interested in helping achieve consensus. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 14:13, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
I understand. FWIW, I have issues with the membership policies, but at the level that I deal with, I consider that the benefits outweigh the problems. --— Gadget850 (Ed)talk - 14:24, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
And I have few hard feeling toward the individual Scouts I know- I have an Eagle Scout in my circle of friends who hasn't ever called me a child molester. Well, not to my face, anyway. It's just that, as an organization... some of their leaders are saying things that really give me a wiggins. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 20:27, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
I understand, but I agree with Gadget pretty much. For me, if it weren't for the Scouts, I'd have been dead, in jail, and/or on drugs by the time I was 20. — Rlevse • Talk • 22:22, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Why did you delete my adoption page for me and Hamish? Police,Mad,Jack (talk·contribs)☺ 15:46, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
I was trying to move it to user space- you accidentally created it in article space- but I moved it incorrectly because you had it titled in a way that wasn't anyone's user name. I'll recreate it now at User:Police,Mad,Jack/adoptions. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 15:56, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
why did u delete my page about avi ensafi memeber of the qajar family —Preceding unsigned comment added by Naser075 (talk • contribs)
The answer is on your talk page already. You were publishing information that might harm that person's reputation, and didn't include any reliable sources that would verify that it was true. I tried using google to find sources to verify the information in your article, and couldn't find any evidence that it was accurate. Wikipedia doesn't publish unverified information, especially about living people who might be harmed by it. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 11:43, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
SO if I TAKE OUT WHAT EVER WOULD HARM THIS PERSONS REPUTATION I KNOW WHAT U R REFERRING TO ,.. can u then putt it back up
You can only create an article about this person if you can cite several reliable sources that verify his importance. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 15:12, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Could u outline what company history/information you need/require in order for my article to fit the correct criteria? thank you very much —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabest2 (talk • contribs) 21:23, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
I see that the talk page where we were discussing it hasn't been deleted yet; the answer to your question is just what I told you there. Instead of posting real newspaper articles about the company, you used public relations materials as sources, which isn't the same thing at all. If significant sources haven't written about this company in detail, then it just isn't so important that an international encyclopedia needs an article about it- Wikipedia isn't a business directory. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 11:41, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
I found 5 different articles from unbiased websites, 1 CNN, 1 Sports Illustrated, a Denver Post, 1 Fox and one ABC where they use Wagerweb as a reference and a tone setter in an industry that is worth somewhere in the 12 billion dollar revenue per year vicinity(http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12975813).
The 5th documents a legal struggle CBS INC held with betcbs.com (WagerWeb's previous domain name) over a domain name.
If I rewrite the article and make direct mention of the fact WagerWeb is a trend setter in the industry, by specializing in novelty props and cut edge materials that are often used by major news corporations as reference, will this be acceptable?
Those sources look a lot better to me. I'll go undelete the article and add them to it, and let you work from there. With those, it at least won't be vulnerable to speedy deletion again. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:50, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
In User talk:Orexq you placed a warning after I reverted the vandalism. It is easy to do this. It is a good idea to check the history of the article where the vandalism was reverted to make sure your own button click got in before that of other vandal fighters. Anyway, I thought that Level 3 was appropriate,due to the defamatory claims in the text I removed [3] compared to
the guidelines at Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace:
Level 1 – Assumes good faith. Generally includes "Welcome to Wikipedia" or some variant.
Level 2 – No faith assumption
Level 3 – Assumes bad faith; cease and desist
Level 4 – Assumes bad faith; strong cease and desist, last warning
Level 4im – Assumes bad faith; strong cease and desist, first and only warning
Regards and keep up the good work!. Edison (talk) 16:12, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! That boy's a resident of my very own city; I'm so ashamed that he's vandalizing articles just like somebody from some lesser city. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 16:38, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Would you mind taking a look at the Churches of Christ article? We're having some problems with anonymous user(s) putting in blatantly POV edits. I've tried asking them to reference their sources, but so far they have refused. I think the next step is to semi-protect it, even it is just temporary. You've helped us out before, and I'm hoping you'll help us out again. Thanks for any help you can provide. --Ichabod (talk) 01:25, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
It's looking much better than the last time I checked in on it. I reverted the changes- some were seriously pov and some probably reasonable- and left a note on the talk page advising him to discuss on the article talk page before making further changes. One more revert and he'll be in violation of 3RR, but I hope he'll be willing to talk about it instead. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 01:44, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Good grief! What is with some members of this church taking offense at the idea of having a historical context? It's truly bizarre. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:33, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
I think this is unsalvagable, unfortunately. Somewhere along the line a newbie has been bitten, however their own reaction to that has made others (including me) leap on them from a great height. I know you're trying to help her, but she's not accepting help from anyone (you may have missed the part where she called you "some special kind of prick"[4]) -- Roleplayer (talk) 12:16, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
She's a kid. Probably 13 or 14. She has no way of understanding what we're telling her, because she simply can't read that well yet, and someone's probably going to have to protect her talk page soon. Maybe in a few years she'll be ready for us. And I am a very special kind of prick... :) -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 12:19, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
I may have found the right words for her, or else she was just ready to pay attention. Or maybe she's still mad. I have to go to work, so I can't follow up. Good luck - Acroterion(talk) 12:26, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
I am at work, you make it sound like I should be doing something else here... -- Roleplayer (talk) 12:27, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Work! Right... I should go to work. Crap.-FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 12:28, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Why do you think that his sexuality doesn't matter? 201.254.77.8 (talk) 16:05, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
If it matters, you can write about it in a fully sourced paragraph later in the section. In parentheses, unsourced, in the first sentence, looks like vandalism. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 16:09, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Don't worry, I will write about this. A great kiss from Earth 'pro-homosexuals' friend 201.254.77.8 (talk) 16:43, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Of course my dear and lovely friend, it will be neutral and respectful to homosexuals, absolutely respectful, when I write this I will let you know. A great kiss from the Milky Way. A fan of the United Nations. Kiss! 201.254.77.8 (talk) 17:46, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
I don't find a way to put he is gay... BTW, all people know he is gay. You said that my first contribution on Nilsen's article "looks like vandalism"... you hurt my feelings saying that, I'm a sensitive person. I hope you will apologize to me. 201.254.77.8 (talk) 00:43, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
it was when D.M.N was using his old username of Davnel03. Before he changed usernames he had a history of being blocked see here.Cowboycaleb25 (talk) 15:46, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Care for a response? I am not looking for bad blood, I'm looking for clarifications; either talk page is fine here or here. --157.228.98.181 (talk) 17:26, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
I never even looked at your edits; I could see that others were already looking at that side. My only objection was to your editing while blocked; as you seem to be unblocked now, you're welcome to edit as far as I'm concerned. Welcome back. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 17:28, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Yesterday, I was looking at the Guardians of Ga'Hoole page and I clicked on The River of Wind. However, somehow, it didn't show the page. It just showed the Guardians of Ga'Hoole page all over again. I was wondering where the page went, so, could you please check it? Thanks. (Strix Struma (talk) 21:54, 20 March 2008 (UTC))
Can you tell me if I can make the page if there isn't an article? (Strix Struma (talk) 21:56, 20 March 2008 (UTC))
It looks like once upon a time there was an article, but in this discussion, it was decided that although the series is notable, there isn't a lot of independent writing about this individual book, and that the title should just redirect back to the series title. Which does make for an odd link. I think if you want to create an article about it, you'll have to make sure that this specific book- not just the series as a whole- is cited with significant sources that discuss its importance. That's how the consensus reads to me, anyway. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:47, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
I love your sense of humor. You are too funny. Thanks for helping with the "Randy/Car5ly8.." situation. Bane of an existence is an understatement for him. KellyAna (talk) 23:03, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
If only they knew how dull they are, and how easy it is to undo the damage and block them, would they still bother? I suppose they would... -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 23:04, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
A 13 year old who drinks Absolut and commutes to his job as a journalist in a 1964 Valiant? Raymond Arritt (talk) 17:30, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
That's about the kind of car that a thirteen year old could reasonably afford. But Absolut is kind of pricey for someone living on a junior high school newspaper reporter's salary. He should maybe stick to the cheap stuff until he graduates from high school. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 17:36, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
You really do fail to see the point I was making, don't you? Seems to me that you decline without reading anything. The point I was making was in relation to the article that you exemplified as causing so much concern, saying that Jon Courtney is notable because he wrote the theme tune to 'the Prisoner'. Of course he didn't, but I have no doubt that he thought he did, just like I thought I was singing to the Queen. In fact he no more wrote the theme music for 'The Prisoner' than I sang for the Queen Why should Wiki tremble? Justpassinby (talk) 22:27, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
I don't even care about the point you were making. I have no idea who Jon Courtney is, and am not really interested in knowing. I don't need to see the point you were making to see that you were being rude, and that isn't okay. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 13:18, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
.) I never wrote anything inappropriate!!!!! I am new here. I kept trying to write an article but I didnt know how to change the header and someone kept deleting it and saying that I was writing inappropriate stuff. Do you think this is inappropriate?
1-800-YELLOWPAGES started out in 1996 when Bobby Kalili acquired the number. Kalili spent 4 years developing the voice automated software to power the service. During this time, Kalili acquired the last 3 remaining toll free numbers as well: 1-888, 1-877, and 1-866-YELLOWPAGES and ultimately called the business Toll Free Yellow Pages Corporation. 1-800-YELLOWPAGES was acquired by AT&T in 2006.
How do I write an article and submit it? thanks... —Preceding unsigned comment added by RobRoth (talk • contribs) 18:31, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
If you are an employee of that business, there isn't any appropriate way for you to create an article about it; the conflict of interest guidelines ask all of us to refrain from writing about ourselves or our businesses. In addition, your proposed article doesn't include any reliable independent sources that would show how this company meets the notability criteria. Don't worry about it, though- if your company truly is important, it is inevitable that someone who is not so closely connected to it will write an objective article about it, and you won't have to do a thing. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 18:41, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
It isn't a good thing when you're attempting to stop a sockpuppet of a banned user who used socks to attempt to win his dispute, with the original user User:Gregs the baker being blocked for 3RR on this topic, generally the account is a "new account" and new accounts would attempt to win the argument of a blocked account straight away as their first edit would they? Dr Nat (talk) 21:18, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
He won't win his dispute by asking for a third opinion unless he's actually right. But you'll definitely get blocked for a violation of the three-revert rule if you remove his request again. So, since leaving it there leads to outside opinions weighing in on how Wikipedia policy applies, and removing it gets you blocked... you'll have to decide for yourself what the wisest course of action is. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:21, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
If you see sockpuppets, the right thing to do is to report them at the suspected sockpuppet page. A Friendly Neighborhood Admin will review the account's edits, run a checkuser if necessary, block the account if it's determined to be a sock, and then use our magical rollback button to remove the sock's edits. It works really well most of the time. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:26, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Please consider my case again. I don't think the other articles are inappropriate at all- I see nothing wrong with publishing factual information about interesting companies- many people are interested in business and like to learn about companies in their industry- I know I certainly do. With regards to the notices, I was first told that my username, ismboston, was too similar to the name of the page. So, I listened and changed my username as recommended. As for notability, I had written to an editor who commented on that, stating that we are the only business in our sector who specialises in out industry, which I believe does make us notable. In every case, I followed recommendations given to me, but then had the page deleted by another editor right away. Can I be blamed for feeling that I was being teased/duped a bit? Perhaps someone should have just said, "you cannot write an article about your own business." That seems to be the case- however odd- and all would have stopped there, saving a lot of headache and wasted time!
Request reason: "I feel that I have been being personally singled out for harassment by a group of editors who continued to delete my entry just to prove a point. The entry was a basic listing for a company, that was completely verifiable and unbiased. After having it deleted instantly by several people, a few editors started to offer suggestions on how to change it so it would be ok. I followed their advice (removing a list of key executives was one), but each time I did so, someone else would then come along and delete it anyway. Finally, I was so upset I wrote on the Talk page that no one was to delete it without speaking to me first so the problem could be fixed. Still, someone came in and deleted it, without a word as to why! I understand there are no rules, so to speak, but surely this is just needless harassment and taunting. I think I should be allowed to edit my own entry, and that if other people want to delete it, they can explain why and not then delete it anyways after I've followed a recommendation. Especially seeing as there are plenty of other listings on Wikipedia that are the same as the one I was creating- identical, in fact."
Decline reason: "The existence of other inappropriate articles isn't a good reason to create more. It seems that you were clearly informed about both the conflict of interest guidelines and the notability criteria, but continued creating an article about your company. You have not been personally singled out; many people try to use Wikipedia to create articles about their businesses, and all of them either stop when asked or are blocked from editing further. — FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 14:44, 24 March 2008 (UTC)"
Please make any further unblock requests by using the {{unblock}} template. However, abuse of the template may result in your talk page being protected.
I had already moved it back once; didn't see that he had done it again. How did he find the time before I blocked him? He's a speedy little bunny. I think I've fixed it... I just moved it back, and if there's a better rollback, I don't know it. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:38, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Well done! Yes, speedy, and very disruptive. — Athaenara ✉ 22:47, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Hey, did you mean to indef block this IP? Tiptoetytalk 05:13, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
He told me to suck his dick, and my feelings were hurt. But if you think lengthening it after his third abusive unblock request was inappropriate, I'll understand if you adjust it, and will still like you. But I won't suck his dick. No, not even though it is Easter, when hunting for tiny treasures is traditional. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 10:11, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
I am swayed by your logic, and as this user has most likely gotten bored and gone away now, I'll quietly adjust the length of the block. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 12:59, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, Cheers. Tiptoetytalk 15:16, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Hey, I was going to see about creating a page about Your Story Hour, and it says you deleted it. Can you tell me some of your reasons for deleting it? Please answer on my talk page. --Writergirlrockstalk 17:55, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
The version I deleted was only a few sentences, with so little detail that I couldn't tell if it was a really notable show or just something local and insignificant. If you want to write a real article, with sources, go for it. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 19:04, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Yours were very good questions. I'm cutting them some slack here; but military people ought to know how to read and follow regs. I hope you'll join me in watching what they do. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:43, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
I rolled back myself because the questions were irrelevant, but yes, I'd be glad to help keep an eye on the new user, to the extent that I can, while on an internet-free vacation for the rest of the week. :) -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 14:45, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
And now he's recreated it under the new username! --Orange Mike | Talk 15:41, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm wondering why you deleted your response to 129.252.184.19 statement. It was a much better response than mine. [5]jonathon (talk) 02:22, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I just thought, there's nothing I can say to this guy that will be helpful, so why continue to engage him? There isn't anything I can say that will cause him to say, "Say, you're right! My deeply held religious beliefs are bullshit! Sorry for the trouble, and I'll be on my way now." He knows perfectly well what's needed of him, and hasn't made any attempt at reasonable collaboration; at this point, he's just trolling, and I realized that I had better things to do with my evening than a pointless debate with a troll. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 02:46, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I've given up and semiprotected it for a few weeks; I hope I'm not too far out of line in doing that on an article that I've been watching pretty closely, but I have sought consensus and outside opinion and all agree that our anonymous friend is pushing a factually flawed point of view, and he's just clearly stated that he intends to continue doing so. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 03:12, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Trolls are a waste of energy. There is precedent for an admin to semi-protect a page that they have edited. jonathon (talk) 15:30, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
But I'm tormented by self-doubt. What if it really isn't accurate to call the Churches of Christ a split from the Presbyterian Church, but rather, an ecumenical movement dating from the Second Great Awakening and encompassing Presbyterians, Baptists, and others? I haven't read deeply enough to be certain, and our anon is muddying the waters too much with his assertion that all discussion of the 19th century is irrelevant when the history of the One True Church lies in the 1st century, not the 19th. If only, if only, if only, some nice, reasonable person with nice, reasonable sources would come and clarify, but instead, we only get the crazy people. Sigh and alas. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 15:33, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Both positions are valid: a) It is a split from the Presbyterian Church; b) It dates from the Second Great Awakening, and encompasses Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, and other faiths; I'll explain taht on the talk page.jonathon (talk) 17:32, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I've never played with WP:UP stuff before, and would dearly love your opinion. WLU (talk) 15:02, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I find it both personally insulting and generally offensive, and I think it is within the bounds of WP:UP. In a way it's even helpful, as it clearly labels the user's biases in a way that allows other editors to review his contributions for inapproriate pushing of a particular point of view. The exception to that is his clear statement that he intends to push a POV in the area of creation/evolution, which I do think crosses the line by expressing a clear intent to violate the rules of the project. I'm not worrying much about it, as folks like him tend to get blocked in short order for tendentious editing anyway. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 15:07, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Ow. Stuff like this will get you smacked down pretty hard for incivility, though. I know these pov-warriors are exasperating, believe me, but maintaining the moral high ground is the best way to make them go away more quickly. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 15:09, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Creationism is my breaking point. To be fair, I didn't say anything about him/her *specifically*, but I'll add an 'I think' to it just in case. Otherwise, I think you'd be very proud of me for my civility. Or you might be totally indifferent to my civility. But I'd like to think that you'd be proud, and please leave me my pleasant delusions as they're all I have :) As always, thanks for your input FQ. WLU (talk) 15:19, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
At any rate, I blocked him for 3RR at the Origins of language article. He blanked the block notice immediately, which I found amusing, because any admin who goes to block him again is still presented with a tidy list of all blocks, so blanking it doesn't really achieve anything, and he's welcome to do it if he thinks it'll help. I'll try to remember to check in on his contributions from time to time; from his history, I predict a series of increasingly long blocks, ending in an indefinite block, after which he will sockpuppet for a few weeks before giving up. We can consult my archives in August and compare them to what really happens, and decide whether I have Mysterious Psychic Powers or not. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 15:23, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I saw your block and was a bit surprised, but who am I to argue with an admin? Just a lowly editor... Did you see in my block notice that he edits anonymously? I can dig up the IP address if you'd like, it's stable from my rough and shoddy memory. WLU (talk) 15:27, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
You're surprised that I blocked him? Or surprised that I started with just the 24 hours? That's the standard for a first-time block for edit-warring, but don't worry, each block he gets will increase in length, and I've got my eye on him, now. I doubt I'm the only one, either. When he starts up again tomorrow, I'll smack him down for a week... the next time, a month... but we have to play by the rules even when they don't, because it makes it clearer who the good, reasonable guys are. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 15:30, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
<undent>Surprised, I thought that since I brought this to your attention, you'd be COI-ish (and since there's a 3RR report, were I an admin I would have allowed that to sort itself out; another reason I shouldn't be an admin - ever so strict about policies). Not worried about the 24 hour duration, either Bowman will learn his lesson, or get blocked for longer the next time.
So...you're hurt that his opinion of lesbians isn't as harsh as his opinion of gay men? When I noticed the actual contents of his statement, I thought he was havin' a laugh - surely no-one actually thinks that... I'm having a hard time not commenting on his discussion on abortion that it's generally the right that supports capital punishment, blandishments about the sanctity of life apparently only applying in limited situations. And he apparently isn't aware that the group with the highest rate of HIV acquisition are heterosexual females, not gay males. If I were the boss of wikipedia... WLU (talk) 16:05, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
His logic is very similar to the logic that prevails in the tradition I grew up in, and I'd say that many of the members of my family would agree with most of what's on his userpage. In saying that gay men are worse than lesbians, though, he's exposing the real core of his thinking, which isn't grounded in reason at all, but just in his personal "Ew, that's icky!" reaction. The focus on anal intercourse among gay men... well, it's kind of a cliche to say that the fundamentalists who get focused on that area tend to be those who are experiencing the most frustration at having their natural inclinations frustrated by their upbringing and their religion. Maybe he isn't gay at heart at all. Notatall. Of course, lesbians have lower divorce rates and lower AIDS rates and are less likely to abuse children... if I followed his logic, I'd be able to demonstrate that we are therefore more approved by God than straight people.-FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 16:23, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Aren't they? I'd guess that God, all-seeing male chauvinist that he is, might enjoy some girl-on-girl action every now and then... --Stephan Schulz (talk) 17:20, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Smut-pusher. Talk dirty to me Steve, I'm a naugty boy. WLU (talk) 17:51, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Like most Christian lesbians, I don't really picture God as the all-seeing male chauvinist of some people's assumptions. Just because the writers of the Bible were influenced by the sexism inherent in their culture, doesn't mean that God really is as they imagine her. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 17:55, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, but in that case I expect your version to be a reasonable gentlebeing with no particular animosity towards either gays or lesbians.--Stephan Schulz (talk) 19:09, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
And my God is also pro-orgasm, in general. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 19:10, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Would it be out of line to say that my God is really hot? And a bit promiscuous. And a 3 on the Kinsey scale. The advantages of atheism is your randomly-chosen divine overseer gets to be a lot more interesting than that of people who take things seriously. WLU (talk) 19:22, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
If you're an atheist, you don't get a God. Sorry, that's just how it works. Don't be too sad; you can share mine, if you want. And you can still have cookies.-FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 19:31, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
My god says you're wrong, and gave me cookies. Hirtem (him/her/it/them/he/she/it/they, a pronoun containing all possible gender combinations far superior to all previous pronouns in everything except clarity) said that I could lie and say you were right though. Good job, I'm totally convinced that your imaginary deity is better than mine. WLU (talk) 19:37, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I challenge you to find a bigger whacking stick than this.
Over the course of reading your first sentence, my eyes flicked to your name at least three times in shock. I was very relieved to get to your last sentence. :) Guettarda (talk) 18:39, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I wondered if some speed-reader might actually block or warn me, but decided that the joke was worth the risk. An unnecessary addiction to whimsy is my greatest failing. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 18:41, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
The bill for the sarcasm meter is being sent to you :) Wildthing61476 (talk) 19:19, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I tracked it down and read it. You should be given a bigger whacking stick. WLU (talk) 19:25, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
As I keep telling the people who send me emails on the subject, I'm perfectly content with the current size of my whacking stick. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 19:32, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
If you were FisherKing, you wouldn't be. Men are never satisfied with the size of their whacking sticks. Or their penises. Some would even venture that whacking sticks, in addition to cars and the breasts of their trophy wives, are actually substitutes for penises. No, really. And don't get me started about the shape of missles. WLU (talk) 19:39, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm disgusted, and I'm censoring your talk page. WLU (talk) 19:44, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Are you sure you want to censor my talk page? There are much less appealing images I could find to illustrate the concept of 'whacking stick.' -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 19:52, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
<undent>Top this. I REALLY wanted to find a picture of Yakov Smirnoff (In Russia, Wikipedia censors you!) but there's no fair use image of him apparently :( Instead, I went with a metaphor that insults and offends on many levels, to virtually all people. See, 'cause he both needs a good whacking, and could be used as a whacking stick. How is there no image of Yakov Smirnoff on wikipedia? You win. Here is your prize. WLU (talk) 20:03, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I yield. You have, indeed, found the biggest dick on Wikipedia. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 20:06, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Ha! I revel in my triumph!
Incidentally, if you're at work, you might not want to click on your prize... WLU (talk) 20:08, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
You're lucky I'm at home today. I do work in a junior high school. So I guess you could assume that I wasn't searching for pictures of horse penises from work, I guess. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 20:10, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
And what if I assumed your school had a vetrinary program?
So, if I reviewed your web browser history, would the words 'horse penis' or 'giant penis' appear? Either way, I'm guessing it's not something that crops up in your google search very frequently. Oh, and in case you didn't know, that picture of an erection actually occupies the ENTIRE screen. Ever tried copy-and-pasting as fast as you possibly can while simultaneously looking over your shoulder? Fortunately my peripheral vision is superb. WLU (talk) 20:17, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I did look at it. It was a very large erection. Maybe it's the lesbian thing, but a penis isn't that attractive in the best of situations, and a large, close-up view doesn't do much to improve the view. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 20:19, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I think it's fantastic, but then I've got one of my own to pla-
I'm just wondering if there is any way I can open a discussion with you about the deletion of that article, another person and I were only just starting the article, and are wondering how we can enhance it so that it meets the criteria necessary to prevent deletion, so that it can be added to the list of browser games article as well. Drazhar Rakarth (talk) 20:05, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I deleted your article because I thought it was about a subject that didn't meet the notability criteria, but I'm open to the possibility that I was wrong. If you'll provide me with links to three articles about the subject in newspapers, magazines, or significant online sources, I'd be happy to undelete the article, and I'll even add the sources to it so no one else will mistake it for an inappropriate article. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 20:06, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
It is a common misconception that once you have licensed something under the GFDL or a Creative Commons license, you no longer hold the copyright. In fact you remain the copyright holder. A license is simply a statement of one set of conditions under which you permit others to use your copyrighted material. If someone wants to use your work but is unwilling or unable to abide by those conditions, you are free to offer or negotiate other terms. Hesperian 12:36, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
