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[edit]Where is the PENTTBOM report? Where is the PENTTBOM summary report referenced in the 9/11 Comission report? I cannot find either online. The FBI.gov site contains very little of interest related to PENTTBOM.
passport contradiction
[edit]Hello, we have a contradictory statement in the text:
The passport of hijacker Satam Al Suqami was found a few blocks from the World Trade Center.[1] [2] Rescue workers sifting through the tons of rubble discovered the passport, belonging to one of the suspected hijackers, a few blocks from where the World Trade Center's twin towers once stood;[3] a passerby picked it up and gave it to a NYPD detective shortly before the World Trade Center towers collapsed.[4]
The passport cannot have been found both before and after the towers collapsed. The rubble version is from the BBC and does not specify whose passport was found. The passerby version is in the commission hearings report and specfically identifies Satam al Suqami. I will remove the BBC's version of events in due course. - Crosbiesmith (talk) 23:41, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
- Removed. - Crosbiesmith (talk) 18:14, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
- Crosbiesmith also took the opportunity to remove the link to Bomb and to Investigation in ::Its name stands for 'Pentagon/Twin Towers Bombing Investigation'.:
- I'm putting them back, since there was no consensus to remove them. Wikilinks are good. The (Bomb) article makes clear that 'bomb' could mean anything, even an airplane, used as an explosive device. It looks bad to have a link to part of the name and not the rest. User:Pedant (talk) 18:34, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
- Removed. - Crosbiesmith (talk) 18:14, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
I also don't agree with removing the BBC account of the passport story. BBC is a reliable source, note the apparent conflict between the sources, don't delete it. It's information, it's sourced, it should stay.Apparently the BBC report doesn't say anything we don't already have, and is a sloppy report besides. I concur with removing the BBC passport material. User:Pedant (talk) 18:34, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Link regarding the translation to the suitcase letter
[edit]The link is returning a 404. Someone should fix it/take it down. 129.22.125.163 (talk) 20:56, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
The largest criminal inquiry in United States history?
[edit]The article begins, " PENTTBOM is the codename for the Federal Bureau of Investigation's probe into the September 11 attacks of 2001, the largest criminal inquiry in United States history."
I believe the part of that statement that reads, "the largest criminal inquiry in United States history" needs a statistical reference citation, and if none is available, it should be deleted. We know that, for example, far more money was allocated to the investigation of Monica Lewinski and President Clinton's sex scandal than was allocated to all the US government authorized investigations related to the events of September 11, 2001 put together. And if there is some authority who can explain how this was the largest criminal investigation in US history, would it be too embarrassing to ask them why no one has ever been charged, tried, and convicted of taking part in the crime of September 11, 2001? (Remember, Osama Bin Laden was never charged with complicity in the 9/11 attacks because the FBI reported having no evidence to connect him the the crimes of 9/11. Bin Laden's FBI 'Wanted' poster cites only crimes unrelated to 9/11.) Should we be proud that the "largest criminal inquiry in US history" has produced no results and achieved no justice? The placement of that statement in the opening of the article seems to be an attempt to glorify what is arguably the biggest failure of a criminal inquiry in US history. Cite a reference or remove it please! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.21.146.202 (talk) 13:55, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
- The links to the FBI that reference this statement appear to be broken. However, the success or failure of the investigation doesn't correlate to the amount of resources committed, nor do your views on "glorification" and "failure" have much to do with the plain statement. I hardly think that more than half the FBI was investigating the Lewinsky affair. Please feel free to update the links, and to resist the urge to use this talkpage as a soapbox on the investigation. I'll see if I can find some replacement links when I get a little time. Acroterion (talk) 14:04, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
- Totally agree with Acroterion's comments above. Please stop soapboxing and using emotive wording. I'm sure that Acroterion will find replacement links to put a stop to these conspiracy "theories". I would also add that the Talk page is here to improve the article and not for random comments on 9-11. Also sign your contributions in the accepted manner. Thank you, David J Johnson (talk) 15:13, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
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