Talk:Dagen H
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ANNI-FRID “FRIDA” LYNGSTAD of ABBA and Dagen H
[edit]I'm not sure if this is important enough to include somewhere on the page, and it may be mere speculation or urban legend, but I'll mention it here because it's an interesting story.
It appears that the career of Abba band member Anni-Frid Lyngstad was launched by a TV show performance on Dagen H, and many claim that she became a celebrity because the performance was on a day when the TV audience was much bigger because Swedes were unable to travel.
The Anni-Frid Lyngstad page mentions the performance day, but doesn't make the connection (emphasis mine): "...She won the competition with her song "En ledig dag", leading to a television appearance on Hylands Hörna on Dagen H; as a result, she was signed by EMI..."
I did find the following in the Dutch Wikipedia https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anni-Frid_Lyngstad though it lacks a citation.
Google translation (again, emphasis is mine):
On September 3, 1967, Lyngstad won 'New Faces', a large-scale national talent show in Stockholm, organized by record company EMI on the occasion of Dagen H. With her winning song En empt dag (A day off) she was given the opportunity to perform in 'Hylands hörna', the biggest Swedish TV show of the time. Because the Swedes left their cars at home that evening due to a change in the direction of travel and sat en masse in front of the TV, Frida instantly became a national celebrity. Shortly afterwards she signed a contract with EMI Records who released her first single En empt dag / Peter, kom tillbaka (A day off / Peter, come back). Mark Asread (talk) 15:39, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
Photo caption
[edit]Can we add a caption to the photo; it's not entirely clear to me exactly what's going on in this picture. Is this during the 10-minute period when the directional switchover was made? -- Seth Ilys 23:12, 13 May 2004 (UTC)
"H" in Dagen H
[edit]I'm assuming H stands for the swedish name for right? Am I right? --Gbleem 00:05, 14 May 2004 (UTC)
- Yes, right = höger in Swedish. Den fjättrade ankan 17:35, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Trams
[edit]"Trams that ran on tracks embedded in the streets were junked" Why? And why did the trams in Gothenburg survive? AlainV 02:30, 2004 May 14 (UTC)
- I'm not trying to answer this, but it does seem that trams became unpopular all over the place at some point around that time...
- Factoid: Subways in Stockholm are still RHD. Harald Hansen 18:45, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- You mean the trains run on the left-hand track, or the right-hand one? A RHD/LHD driver's seat designation is probably meaningless in a train cab... 193.63.174.211 (talk) 18:59, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
Crash rate
[edit]Uh, the article currently mentions that the number of road accidents dropped sharply as a result of the changeover. What it fails to mentions, as is mentioned at Rules of the road, is that the accident rate rose to its previous level within two years. If this is true, could somebody please add it: I'm not sure of the facts myself. --Dom 00:39, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Can't the lower accident rate after the switch be attributed, also, to the possibility that everyone on Sweden at the time were driving more carefully due to the switch? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.161.197.132 (talk) 09:32, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Weren't all cars LHD?
[edit]The article says that most Swedes drive imported cars with the steering wheel on the left, but what about Volvos and Saabs? Were these RHD? I don't think so.
- They weren't, or to be precise: I have never seen one, and I live next door (Norway). Harald Hansen 18:44, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
Actually one of the argument against the switch was that the driver could not see the edge of the road driving on the right in a LHD car. As for SAABs they seem to have all been LHD, even the prototype 92 was LHDcommons:Image:Saab92001(1946)2.JPG, the only exception seems to be the Saab Sonett mk1commons:Image:Saabsonettsupersportinterior.jpg (but notice the placement of the gear stick!) // Liftarn
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Señor citizen?
[edit]A phrase about older (elderly?) "people" refraining from driving rather than re-educate lacking a cite, is ineffectual. Placed non sequitur next to a passage about absent car accident during the days of the switch, is just rude and miscrediting lack of formality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KreviazukCole (talk • contribs) 16:22, 7 January 2010
Håll dig till höger Svensson
[edit]The band singing the song was called sv:Telstars, while Rock-Boris (Boris Lindqvist) seems to have been involved in the band somehow. [1]. It seems it'd be more appropriate to refer to Telstars than Rock-Boris alone.126.109.230.99 (talk) 12:44, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
Commemorative children
[edit]The logo was displayed varous commemorative items, such as children. What is the intended meaning of this?Klausok (talk) 06:23, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- The edit history suggests it's a bit of mildly amusing vandalism... I'll zap it. 193.63.174.211 (talk) 19:01, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
Timing of switch, and "side-specific headlights"?
[edit]Doesn't it seem strange that they would wait until 5AM to do the switch, when everyone is heading to work? Why didn't they time it for midnight, or 2AM, when the roads were mostly empty? That way, everyone could just get out of bed, and get into their car and drive to work on the right side of the road, without worrying about all this stopping and switching sides business. Did they just not want to ask the workers to go out in the middle of the night to set up the new intersections? Did they think it'd be dangerous to ask the few drivers that were out on the roads to try to learn right-side driving in the dark?
Also, what is this about dedicated headlamps for right- and left-hand drive cars? As far as I know, in the US, both headlamps are the same: both sides face straight ahead, so it doesn't matter if you put them in a LHD or a RHD car. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but as far as I knew, US headlamps shine straight ahead, have low and high beams, and are adjusted so they converge and aim properly with screws-mounts. Why would a RHD car need different headlamps than a LHD car? AnnaGoFast (talk) 04:59, 18 February 2016 (UTC) . . .
Hi, as a person who designs headlights, you will find that there are many types: 1. UK RHD. 2. Japan RHD. 3. EU LHD. 4. US/Canada LHD. 5. Rest of world LHD. 6. Rest of world RHD. All of these markets have 'different' demands on performance / beam direction / dip direction.
For your information, US headlights have different beam patterns for left & right hand sides, along with different 'maximum brightness' legislation demands.... EU markets have a 1200 lumen maximum brightness of 'dipped' beam US markets have a 1500 lumen maximum brightness
These are numerous other regulations that we have to comply with
Crazy , I know - I have to work with this !
Hope this helps
AG England
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Non sequitur in the opening section
[edit]I feel that the 2nd para of the opening section ("City buses...") is completely out of place there. I was going to move it towards the end, either to 'The Switch' or 'Results' sections, but there is already a para in the latter section about public transport, so this would be at least partly repetitive of that. Unless someone feels like editing the text (eg. merging those two paras), I suggest the "City buses..." para be deleted. DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:31, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
Photo Caption 2
[edit]I edited the photo caption. This photo is widely misattributed to being from Dagen H. The photo caption said so before I changed it. To anyone reading the article it is obviously not the case. There was no traffic from 10.00 on Saturday morning until 15.00 on Sunday afternoon. Do people really think traffic would have waited there for 29 hours? This photo was taken in the middle of March. It was staged to create an image necessary for the massive public information campaign. I had some trouble editing the caption so someone might like to tidy it up. 78.82.80.49 (talk) 09:14, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what your source is for the photo being staged as every reliable source says otherwise. There's even an interview with the actual photographer confirming that the photo was taken on September 3rd, which I have referenced in the article now as I reverted your change. Somuchknowledge (talk) 23:08, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
- In the Wikipedia article it says "In Stockholm and Malmö, however, the ban was longer – from 10:00 on Saturday until 15:00 on Sunday – to allow work crews to reconfigure intersections.
- Therefore the photo was not taken on 3rd September. You can't possibly think traffic stood still on Kungsgatan for 29 hours just to take the photo. The photo was used throughout the spring and summer of 1967 in publicity campaigns. 94.234.117.27 (talk) 03:51, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
Anecdotes paragraph missing
[edit]After the results I think there should be an anecdotes paragraph like present in the German version saying:
On September 2, 2017, the city of Malmköping celebrated the 50th anniversary of the introduction of right-hand traffic in 1967. The changeover (Högertrafikomläggning) was celebrated by running selected streets with left-hand traffic from 11 am to 3 pm. Vintage vehicles and old buses from the Malmköping Tram Museum, which were designed for left-hand traffic, drove "correctly" again. VossNorway800 (talk) 04:23, 16 December 2023 (UTC)