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Can you fix this pls?

For this userscript, it writes an edit summary for you (that is almost always unhelpful imo but whatevs) when you tag a redirect. However, if you make a redirect out of a page that was previously a redlink, you get to check the source code once before you make the edit. Could you please edit the above script to make this the case for all redirects you edit with? It's just for my own person use. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 23:58, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@MJL: I'll take a look, but personally I use User:DannyS712/Redirectify.js --DannyS712 (talk) 00:02, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, that design is sleeker. If I could tag pages with multiple rcats, I'd have made the switch already. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 00:08, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@MJL: um, let me get back to you about that --DannyS712 (talk) 00:09, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@MJL: Update: I have no idea where to start. I'll try to work on it at some point, but it'll likely be a while --DannyS712 (talk) 04:52, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, it might not be necessary. I've figured out that if I click "edit source" and then initiate the script, then I get to do the check. Sorry for the hassle! :/ –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 05:13, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Thomas R. Russell

Hi @DannyS712, I just saw your message about the speedy deletion tag on the article I created about Thomas R. Russell. I'm fairly new to Wikipedia and this is the first time I've received the notice before, having created 11 pages. Apologies for the possible infringement, as that was never my intention! Would it possible to be more specific as to which section or element of the article the software flagged, so I could do a better job editing the information from the secondary source to ensure it has no copyright issues but is still a verifiable statement? Sorry again for the trouble!

Thank you so much

EMT STL (talk) 00:55, 29 April 2019 (UTC) @EMT_STL[reply]

@EMT STL: see the report at https://tools.wmflabs.org/copyvios/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&title=Thomas_R._Russell&url= --DannyS712 (talk) 00:57, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for linking it, it appears as though the majority of the issues come from listing names of people/programs he created or led during his career, not that full statements or sentences were copied over directly. Is there anything you recommended doing - like linking to other verifiable references, or taking out mention of those things entirely? Not really sure what to do in this situation, as that article was a hive of information! - thank you again for the help :) EMT STL (talk) 01:06, 29 April 2019 (UTC) @EMT_STL[reply]

I would try to just phrase things differently - after reading through the source, and without looking at it, then try to write the section for the article. Of course, confirm that the source backs up what you wrote, but don't looking at the sources while you write, or you'll tend to use similar language. --DannyS712 (talk) 01:09, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much for your help! Will do so EMT STL (talk) 01:15, 29 April 2019 (UTC) @EMT_STL[reply]

ITN recognition for Richard Lugar

On 29 April 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Richard Lugar, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page.

Stephen 01:21, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Stephen: Thanks, and thanks for clearing up the misunderstanding --DannyS712 (talk) 01:35, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Turan Hunters

Yes, I know very well that are reliable sources, but is hard to find sources on English. -- Bojan  Talk  01:34, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@BokicaK: I'm sorry, I understand your challenged. Maybe try looking at the sources for the article in other languages' wikipedias? --DannyS712 (talk) 01:35, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is the first article on whole wikipedia. There aren't (m)any English sources on Google books. There are Hungarian soruces, but Hungarian is not my native langue. I have a book in Serbian that from time to time mentions actions of this organisation in occupied Bačka. These is quote from 1939 book/survey/article: Even the chauvinist Turáni Vadászok (Turanian hunters) were suppressed, since they had been staunchly anti-German as well as anti-everything else. The Gestapo arrested all those well known for their dislike of Hungary's association with ...[1]. I cant get broader context (who, what, when, where, why), but i hope this satisfies laymen that this confirms that the organisation existed? -- Bojan  Talk  01:47, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@BokicaK: it probably exists, based on that quote, but to have an article it also needs to meet the general notability guidelines. --DannyS712 (talk) 01:48, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Look, it participated in Šajkaška and Novi Sad raid, it persecuted Serbs, Jews and Romani people, killed, looted, their property. Membership in the organisation was enough for partisans (and probably Soviets) to execute them without any/much trial. Is it now notable? But I did't write in article yet, because I know it will be challenged. I just wrote basic facts, that anybody with elementary knowledge won't challenge. -- Bojan  Talk  02:02, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@BokicaK: I'm sorry, I don't know enough about the topic to evaluate that. But, those details can be added to the draft, which can then be submitted for review. --DannyS712 (talk) 02:03, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It is not your fault. Tt wasn't big and notorious as SS, but existed. I will add reference on my native language.  Bojan  Talk  02:06, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Is it OK now? I can't do better. -- Bojan  Talk  02:53, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@BokicaK: I prefer not to review drafts that I moved from mainspace, since to me it feels a bit like a COI. But, I have submitted the draft, so it should get reviewed by someone else soon. --DannyS712 (talk) 02:56, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #362

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    • Displaying mapframes for geocoordinate on client requires preprocessing by the user (phab:T220122)
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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 5

News and updates associated with user scripts from the past month (April 2019). Hello everyone and welcome to the 5th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

Until next month, --DannyS712 (talk) 00:22, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Spelling in your script

A small point, but in your script at User:DannyS712/common.js you use the word "develope"; I think you mean "develop"? --David Biddulph (talk) 09:30, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@David Biddulph:  Done, thanks --DannyS712 (talk) 10:04, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sup DanTheMan, wot about the semi-colons? ——SerialNumber54129 10:08, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Serial Number 54129: what do you mean? --DannyS712 (talk) 10:10, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sometimes tere's a sort of error message in the js box, says there's a missing semi colon: thus .js'); //. See wot i mean? Or maybe it doesn't affect the running of the script; I've always added one, so wouldn't know the consequence of not doing so. Cheers! ——SerialNumber54129 10:16, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Serial Number 54129: I'm sorry, but I'm still not following - I have semi colons after my lines of code... --DannyS712 (talk) 10:18, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Absolutely: look after your colons and let your colon look after you, as they say. But (not completely coincidentally, from your recent issue of the ScriptzMag), for example, see User:BrandonXLF/Restorer and others of theirs.
BTW, on the newsletter, does Twinkle not update automatically/we should replace the script? ——SerialNumber54129 10:24, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Serial Number 54129: Twinkle is maintained on github - every once in a while, after a bunch of commits (edits), the on-wiki version is updated to by in sync - if you have it installed as a gadget, you should be fine --DannyS712 (talk) 10:25, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Right, ta. Wot about the colons, you think? ——SerialNumber54129 11:00, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Serial Number 54129: are you just messing with me? --DannyS712 (talk) 15:33, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for that. How can I put this. WHY do some of the scripts have a semi colon in the middle and others do not?! ——SerialNumber54129 16:12, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Serial Number 54129: oh - probably a matter of personal preference. Semicolons aren't always needed, because the javascript will just assume there is a semicolon there. See [9] for more. --DannyS712 (talk) 16:15, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
And there you have it. Thanks! Very interesting, and nothing to worry about. Cheers! ——SerialNumber54129 16:22, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Serial Number 54129: No problem. Sorry, I wa just really confused by what (if anything) you were trying to ask --DannyS712 (talk) 16:25, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Pending userbox request

Hi Danny, funny that I should find you on the bureaucrats' noticeboard like that. I was just talking to DrMel; She and I have set up a proposed WikiBlind user-group for teaching blind people how to edit Wikipedia, and we were talking about creating a userbox for it. I told her that you were the only very active Wikipedian I knew of on the list of users who make userboxes upon request. I'll let DrMel let you know what she had in mind when she can, but that coincidence was too good not to mention! Graham87 11:29, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Graham87: lol. I was wondering though - isn't it Xaosflux's "job" to always handle those? --DannyS712 (talk) 15:35, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Well he normally does, but we're all volunteers, so it's all good. Graham87 05:44, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I was just a bit surprised, thats all --DannyS712 (talk) 05:52, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Userbox request for WikiBlind

Hi Danny! Graham87 encouraged me to get in touch to get your help with the userboxes we want our new wikiblind volunteers to be able to include on their user pages. I did a mock-up on my art program here and just uploaded it to commons. Here’s the link: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Proposed_layout_for_1st_wikiBlind_user_group_userbox.jpg

Can you tell me how easy it would be to create the userbox? We want to welcome our newbies with this on their user page as soon as we get them setup and ready to participate for the first time. We are very excited to see so much enthusiasm so quickly! We would love to include everyone in the fun, too - experienced wikipedians are a huge part of what happens next! Come join us? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiBlind_Wikimedians_User_Group

@DrMel: sure. I'm making it now --DannyS712 (talk) 00:00, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@DannyS712: thank you! Here’s the logo art by itself: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiBlind_Wikimedians_User_Group DrMel (talk) 00:07, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@DrMel: I've created Template:User WikiBlind founder. Let me know if there is anything more I can help with - I couldn't make it wider, but I'll try to figure out how to add a width parameter to help at some point. --DannyS712 (talk) 00:11, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Could you change the font size so the logo fills the height on the left side? And or shorten the text back to just say “Founding Member of wikiBlind” ? DrMel (talk) 02:00, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@DrMel: The logo does fill the height on the left side... --DannyS712 (talk) 02:01, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@DrMel: Cool, thanks muchly! Shouldn't we have a general one for non-founders as well? Graham87 05:46, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Graham87: You mean like Template:User WikiBlind? --DannyS712 (talk) 05:53, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, that's it, thanks! I'm not aware of any other project that has a distinct userbox for its members and founding members like that ... and having such a prominent distinction reminds me in a very bad way of what happened to the Esperanza group. I won't take any further action until I get a response from Mel though. Whatever happens, I'll be sure to preserve history, as I do. :-) Graham87 06:06, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Graham87: if you don't want the "founding" part, merging the histories should be literally the easiest hist merge ever. The non-founder version was just me pasting in the founder version and removing the word "founder" before saving it the first time, so other than my edit summary nothing would even appear amiss if you merged the two. I'll let you decide though, --DannyS712 (talk) 06:09, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #031, 01 May 2019

Back to the drawing board

Implementation of the new portal design has been culled back almost completely, and the cull is still ongoing. The cull has also affected portals that existed before the development of the automated design.

Some of the reasons for the purge are:

  • Portals receive insufficient traffic, making it a waste of editor resources to maintain them, especially for narrow-scope or "micro" portals
  • The default {{bpsp}} portals are redundant with the corresponding articles, being based primarily on the corresponding navigation footer displayed on each of those articles, and therefore not worth separate pages to do so
  • They were mass created

Most of the deletions have been made without prejudice to recreation of curated portals, so that approval does not need to be sought at Deletion Review in those cases.

In addition to new portals being deleted, most of the portals that were converted to an automated design have been reverted.

Which puts us back to portals with manually selected content, that need to be maintained by hand, for the most part, for the time being, and back facing some of the same problems we had when we were at this crossroads before:

  • Manually maintained portals are not scalable (they are labor intensive, and there aren't very many editors available to maintain them)
  • The builders/maintainers tend to eventually abandon them
  • Untended handcrafted portals go stale and fall into disrepair over time

These and other concepts require further discussion. See you at WT:POG.

However, after the purge/reversion is completed, some of the single-page portals might be left, due to having acceptable characteristics (their design varied some). If so, then those could possibly be used as a model to convert and/or build more, after the discussions on portal creation and design guidelines have reached a community consensus on what is and is not acceptable for a portal.

See you at WT:POG.

Curation

A major theme in the deletion discussions was the need for portals to be curated, that is, each one having a dedicated maintainer.

There are currently around 100 curated portals. Based on the predominant reasoning at MfD, it seems likely that all the other portals may be subject to deletion.

See you at WT:POG.

Traffic

An observation and argument that arose again and again during the WP:ENDPORTALS RfC and the ongoing deletion drive of {{bpsp}} default portals, was that portals simply do not get much traffic. Typically, they get a tiny fraction of what the corresponding like-titled articles get.

And while this isn't generally considered a good rationale for creation or deletion of articles, portals are not articles, and portal critics insist that traffic is a key factor in the utility of portals.

The implication is that portals won't be seen much, so wouldn't it be better to develop pages that are?

And since such development isn't limited to editing, almost anything is possible. If we can't bring readers to portals, we could bring portal features, or even better features, to the readers (i.e., to articles)...

Some potential future directions of development

Quantum portals?

An approach that has received some brainstorming is "quantum portals", meaning portals generated on-the-fly and presented directly on the view screen without any saved portal pages. This could be done by script or as a MediaWiki program feature, but would initially be done by script. The main benefits of this is that it would be opt-in (only those who wanted it would install it), and the resultant generated pages wouldn't be saved, so that there wouldn't be anything to maintain except the script itself.

Non-portal integrated components

Another approach would be to focus on implementing specific features independently, and provide them somewhere highly visible in a non-portal presentation context (that is, on a page that wasn't a portal that has lots of traffic, i.e., articles). Such as inserted directly into an article's HTML, as a pop-up there, or as a temporary page. There are scripts that use these approaches (providing unrelated features), and so these approaches have been proven to be feasible.

What kind of features could this be done with?

The various components of the automated portal design are transcluded excerpts, news, did you know, image slideshows, excerpt slideshows, and so on.

Some of the features, such as navigation footers and links to sister projects are already included on article pages. And some already have interface counterparts (such as image slideshows). Some of the rest may be able to be integrated directly via script, but may need further development before they are perfected. Fortunately, scripts are used on an opt-in basis, and therefore wouldn't affect readers-in-general and editors-at-large during the development process (except for those who wanted to be beta testers and installed the scripts).

The development of such scripts falls under the scope of the Javascript-WikiProject/Userscript-department, and will likely be listed on Wikipedia:User scripts/List when completed enough for beta-testing. Be sure to watchlist that page.

Where would that leave curated portals?

Being curated. At least for the time being.

New encyclopedia program features will likely eventually render most portals obsolete. For example, the pop-up feature of MediaWiki provides much the same functionality as excerpts in portals already, and there is also a slideshow feature to view all the images on the current page (just click on any image, and that activates the slideshow). Future features could also overlap portal features, until there is nothing that portals provide that isn't provided elsewhere or as part of Wikipedia's interface.

But, that may be a ways off. Perhaps months or years. It depends on how rapidly programmers develop them.

Keep on keepin' on

The features of Wikipedia and its articles will continue to evolve, even if Portals go by the wayside. Most, if not all of portals' functionality, or functions very similar, will likely be made available in some form or other.

And who knows what else?

No worries.

Until next issue...    — The Transhumanist   00:20, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ANRFC question

The move request for Spygate (conspiracy theory by Donald Trump) was relisted by Paine Ellsworth a few hours back, and therefore the discussion is no longer ready to be closed. Do you know if/how the corresponding close-request should be handled for such cases? Abecedare (talk) 04:35, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Abecedare: I've closed that close request as not done. --DannyS712 (talk) 04:41, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Not my usual haunt, so just observing the practices. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 04:44, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Abecedare: No problem --DannyS712 (talk) 04:45, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship. Legobot (talk) 04:29, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The recent mass-message ...

Not only is it missing a small tag, but it's also missing a timestamp, which (a) is just really bad for timekeeping purposes and (b) means that lowercase sigmabot III will never archive the message. Is there any chance you could add the timestamps semi-automagically, as well? I've done it on my end. Thanks! Graham87 01:43, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Graham87: I certainly can, but I don't know if I should - that is a bit more cosmetic than the tags. Also, when sending a mass message without a timestamp a warning is shown - @Cameron11598: did you see the warning/is there a reason not to add timestamps? --DannyS712 (talk) 01:45, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I was not prompted with a warning for a time stamp so I had assumed it was included in the templates code otherwise I would have included the hidden time stamp. I was instructed on the Clerks mailing list to send the message for the committee. I apologize for not checking the template closer before sending the message. I'll make sure to do so in the future. --Cameron11598 (Talk) 01:48, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Cameron11598: no problem. There was also a <small> tag that was unclosed, but I've already gone and fixed that. Do you want the timestamp to be now (~~~~~) or when it was sent? --DannyS712 (talk) 01:50, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Also pinging Oshwah who pointed out the original issue with the tag - do you think its okay to do another run? --DannyS712 (talk) 01:51, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Now should be fine. Thanks for fixing my mistake. --Cameron11598 (Talk) 01:52, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Cameron11598: Is the location that Graham87 put the timestamp good? --DannyS712 (talk) 01:53, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That location is fine by me. --Cameron11598 (Talk) 01:59, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Cameron11598, since this is an official ArbCom message, I think the timestamps should match the time that the message was originally sent. Nothing may come of it, but we shouldn't leave room for error, and having different timestamps could do this. Again, it's your call, but that's what I would choose if it were up to me. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:01, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Yeah... since this is an official ArbCom message, we should add a timestamp to the message for completeness. Else, I'd say that that a second mass fix by a bot would probably annoy a lot of admins. Unfortunately, we don't have a choice in this case. DannyS712, fire away. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:55, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Cameron11598 and Oshwah: I just made [10], [11], [12], and [13] with the current timestamp. Any issues? --DannyS712 (talk) 02:03, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That's Cameron11598's decision as the ArbCom clerk. All I can do is recommend what I would do and what I think is the right choice. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:05, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Looks okay to me! --Cameron11598 (Talk) 02:09, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Cameron11598: Just to clarify, you want the current time? --DannyS712 (talk) 02:10, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that should be fine. --Cameron11598 (Talk) 02:10, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Cameron11598: then  Doing... --DannyS712 (talk) 02:12, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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