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Help about Deleted page Ubong King

Greetings, Please i need help to understand why the page was deleted, any issues raised earlier were already sorted and there are good cited sources for the subject and i still can't tell why it was deleted. Please any explanation will be helpful as we keep learning. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Delords (talk • contribs) 11:53, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Who is "we"?--Bbb23 (talk) 11:55, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Oh sorry about that generalization, I am still learning and hope to learn from every situation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Delords (talk • contribs) 12:21, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

@JamesBWatson: You deleted it twice last month per G11 and G12. I don't think the latest iteration is much of an improvement. It's still obviously promotional, and although it's not a G12, it still uses text from the blog website. I also don't think it gets past a7, although I'm not at all conversant with Nigerian sources, so that's a less easy call. I'll restore it if you think it's good enough to keep, or I could move it to draft space and tell the creator to go through WP:AFC.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:44, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the update, please in case there are areas you both feel needs correction, I will greatly appreciate it if you can highlight them and also have the page in draft so i can make the necessary corrections as required. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Delords (talk • contribs) 13:08, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Greetings! Please I still look forward to a positive response concerning the issue raised here while appreciating you in anticipation for your review of this. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Delords (talk • contribs) 19:28, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

I've moved the article to Draft:Ubong King. Please do not move the draft into article space. Instead, submit the article through WP:AFC. Thanks for your patience.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:16, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

You might want to revdel my last two edits to Oshwah's page, too.

I accidentally reverted the revert and then self-reverted. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 16:49, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I think I finally got it - baby steps.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:50, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for staying on the ball on that, and helping to cover my fuckup.

On a completely unrelated note... I think that FrogCast might warrant a CU, as they have claimed to have had a previous account, but refuses to disclose it. They've cited personal safety as a reason, but given that they did so by implying that Calton and I would do them harm (while insulting us for the fifth or sixth time), I don't think that's a legitimate concern. To be fair, I suspect this is a fairly young editor and that it's quite possible this is just a BS claim, but I figured just in case, maybe I should let a CU know about it. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 18:54, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Don't know if they had a previous account, but I can't find it. If you have any evidence of who they might be, that would of course help. My guess is they won't last very long after their current block expires. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:08, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

I just wanted to cover the base, if you will. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to learn they were lying. They strike me as quite young, and I agree with your prediction. One can't deny they have a passion for WP, though, so maybe after a few years of seasoning they'll come back with a much better attitude. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 00:34, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Tanya Ekanayaka Page

Hi Bbb23, WP:AFC.--Bbb23 (talk), why is the discography section irrelevant to a composer when details of published works by nearly all composers listed on Wikipedia are included on their Wikipedia pages??! You have deleted ALL this information despite it being referenced. Therefore I will undo it for now. Thank you. Also, see reference to subjects thesis and details of the music released - the subject has a PhD in Linguistics and Musicology. The subject is also the producer of the two solo CDs mentioned in the 'Career' section. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NSNMN (talk • contribs) 13:54, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

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Not even trying...

Screense is back again for the 2nd time (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) ??? GAB^gab 01:00, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

That one plus Nataliejanesellars1974 (talk · contribs · count) - and I'm not even familiar with that case. Time to go to bed.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:27, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Sock farm

Hi Bbb23. I just blocked a half dozen socks that were attacking Head injury. It might be worth a look in case there are more. Head injury: Revision history. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:14, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Administratively, with that many accounts, it would be better for you to file a report and request a CU to look for others.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:28, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

 Done Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/우흥우흥따악. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:40, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Double-check

Hi B, I indeffed CorrectHai as a ducky sock of Dimpletisha, based on my knowledge of GracyM. CorrectHai is denying sockpuppetry, proclaiming their innocence as a brand new editor. CorrectHai has 17 articles of intersection with GracyM, especially at Bepannah, a frequent haunt of GracyM's. Also a considering factor, 8 edits in, this "brand new editor" reverts three of Barunology2's edits at Barun Sobti. How does this brand new user know that there's a problem with the article in need of reversion? Any chance you can look into this? I strongly do not believe that this person is a brand new editor, but if I'm wrong about their link to Dimpletisha, I kind of want to know that. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:38, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

There were also a couple of IP edits that were strange, like this Punjabi IPv6 editing (Hindi-language) Bepannah. The edit introduced obnoxious language about "great reviews", which was resubmitted by CorrectHai. Also at this article, which is mostly socks of Dimpletisha, there's this edit from a Punjabi IPv6. Obviously you can't comment on those, but these are some of the things that sold me on socking. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:35, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

CorrectHai is incorrect.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:58, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for looking and for the confirmation. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:32, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Surprise, a Punjabi IP reverted all of my recent reversions of Dimpletisha. I handled it, but just thought I'd mention it. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:03, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi B, this user is again editing while logged out. Any chance for a range block, or not possible? ABCD20 miiiight be a sock, but I don't have enough info yet. They removed Star Parivaar awards from an article, which is something Dimpletisha (correctly) did. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:28, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Hard for me to do range blocks when you and I are going back and forth about this stuff. However, ABCD20 and TellyFam (talk · contribs · count) are  Confirmed.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:05, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Unclear what you mean by "when you and I are going back and forth about this stuff". Am I bothering you? If there's something I could do to make this process easier, please let me know. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:34, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

No, no, not at all. I meant that it comes too close to me connecting an IP with a named account, a violation of policy, were I to block an IP range.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:37, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Ahhh, I understand. But then there's this other side of me that goes, "Does B see these other IPs? Will he do anything with them in a timely manner or is it totally off his radar?" There's a good deal of frustration on my side for all the games we have to play to shield these people especially when we're protecting the IPs of socks who don't even protect themselves. Like, it's totally obvious that some IPs are the guy we just blocked. Sometimes, they even admit it. If someone self-identifies an IP they've used, can't that then be considered fair game for CU confirmation? Also, isn't there any way to get bots to do some of the CU dirty work? Like, couldn't some information be plugged in somewhere, and bots could scour through new accounts or IP edits and figure out if X, Y, Z data matches a profile, which would then report to CUs? Or even AUTOBLOCK them?! I swear, I searched for a kitchen table back in 2008 and ever since then, every computer I use somehow knows to send me ads for a kitchen table. (Truth: kitchen table is code for something sex-related.) Anyway, there's got to be a way to get automation working in our favor here. I'll keep your 'chill with the back and forth' in mind. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:57, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Richmond Art Collective

Do you realize you just deleted the first article of an editthon? As an experienced editor I would expect that you would have tagged it first & waited a respectful amount of time for a response. https://www.facebook.com/events/254766412011335?name=Spokane+Futures%3A+A+Wikipedia+Edit-a-thon&event_id=254766412011335&view=permalink&id=287602178727758&acontext=%7B%22ref%22%3A%2229%22%2C%22ref_notif_type%22%3A%22admin_plan_mall_activity%22%2C%22action_history%22%3A%22null%22%7D&notif_id=1538850595072385&notif_t=admin_plan_mall_activity&ref=notif

Posting from my iPhone. Peaceray (talk) 20:49, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

It was already tagged - and correctly.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:53, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Was there ample time to respond to the tag? This editathon started just over three hours ago. WP:BITE certainly applies here. I request reinstatement of the article for at least 24 hours so the speedy deletion can be contested. Peaceray (talk) 21:16, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Meaning?

Hi there Bbb23. What does this exactly mean?[1] Thanks - LouisAragon (talk) 14:36, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

SPI

Hi. Would you please take a look at this SPI? Accused party is running amok, and new accounts are performing CU tasks. —usernamekiran(talk) 20:03, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

"running amok" - that's a bit melodramatic isn't it? And I don't see what the case has to do with the SPI vandal. You already pinged me earlier; there was no need to post to my Talk page.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:31, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

lol. I apologise for using the word, I couldnt think of any other word at that time (english is not my first language). Also, sorry about the post here, I thought you missed my earlier ping. I always imagine that busy users who interact with others a lot (like you) get a lot pings/notifications everyday. I get them only when bots post to my talkpage :-/
—usernamekiran(talk) 22:49, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

--Bbb23 (talk) 23:15, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Civ

Hello,

Just a sidenote: when you write summaries like "very poor English" you actually offend someone. Maybe you didn't realise. I am sure you follow WP:CIV by heart and this has been just a minor accident. --grin ✎ 08:40, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

You don't provide a diff so I can see the context, but I doubt it was accidental, and, generally, such a comment in an edit summary is not uncivil. Competence in English is a requirement to edit here. Nor is it offensive. If I wrote something in, say, Spanish, I wouldn't be offended if someone said my Spanish was poor. It is. Now if someone said my English was poor, I might be slightly miffed.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:30, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Chernobog95

I am shocked by revelation that Hornetzilla78, PythonDan, Kirlator and SamaranEmerald are the same user, this gives some hindsight to me and you should notify NeiN about that. I admit I was harsh and broke rules, though my first ban was about "unreliable sources" which Hornetzilla78 and his sockets reported and was the theme against me. Later on he usedmy permabanning to remove reliable sources. So I was targeted by socketer and got trolled hard to the point of rage and desperation, he manufactured consent and deceived people to further owns views while projecting on me. He basically acted like he owned Hwasong-15 article yet accused me of that while he made edits with multiple accounts when he made reports against me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.217.233.160 (talk) 00:26, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

I expect an answer......

.....immediately. I was told I do not understand what Administrators do here. But I do know for a fact their role is not to issue naked threats without even bothering to give a reason. This looks an awful lot like I am being silenced for daring to highlight another Administrator's fitness to be an Administrator. Pending your explanation, I will have to proceed as if this is what it is. AttackTheMoonNow (talk) 00:41, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

I expect you to be blocked as a sock well before that explanation comes along, based on your contribs. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 00:57, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Well, we must be in the same boat then, waiting on our betters to furnish us with explanations. AttackTheMoonNow (talk) 01:10, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. - obligatory notice as our SPA friend failed to provide it power~enwiki (π, ν) 01:50, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Actually at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Banned from a page without due process (not at /Incidents). General Ization ^Talk 01:55, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Ah yes, if I wanted to make a frivolous complaint, that's where I'd go. O3000 (talk) 02:23, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

The OP is now indeffed. General Ization ^Talk

• When I went off-wiki to have some dinner and watch a great British mystery on TV, I figured our friend had a few options, one of which was to go to ANI (or AN) and complain about my warning. Of all the options, I liked that one best because it meant some other admin (smarter than I) would block the user. Trolls are so predictable.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:27, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Rope has its value. O3000 (talk) 02:31, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Heh, I was just curious what was the great British mystery you were watching. Govvy (talk) 13:13, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

An episode of New Tricks, hardly a classic whodunit, but more than just a procedural police drama (Wikipedia's classification). The show had a significant amount of humor in it, although it unfortunately declined over the long course of the series. Many of the early episodes are hilarious.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:53, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

There's loads of contemporary classics. The Mystery of the Missing Millions, by T. May and starring D. U. Pee? Or perhaps The Great Train Robbery by C. Grayling, starring D. F. Tee... ;) ——SerialNumber54129 13:28, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Heh, I do like New Tricks, I was always partial to Agatha Christie's Poirot myself. :) Govvy (talk) 21:50, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

I'm a bit impartial to Life on Mars myself, although I don't think we should pick Gene Hunt as a role model for admins. "I wanna unblock request!" "I wanna hump Britt Ekland, what we gonna do?" Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 10:33, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

heh, @Ritchie333: Stalking my contrib?? Govvy (talk) 10:36, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Stalking? Personally, I couldn't give a tart's furry cup if half your brains are falling out. Don't ever waltz into my kingdom playing king of the jungle. Gene Hunt 333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 10:51, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Er, had to put my glasses on to read that! @Ritchie333: Hmm, was that suppose to be a modified quote from Life on Mars? And if we are on Bbb23's talk page aren't we in his kingdom?? Also my brains fell out long ago!! Govvy (talk) 12:40, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Just wait until Martinevans123 sets up shop on your talk page, you'll get this on a daily basis. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 12:41, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Ooh, worra bitch. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:14, 10 October 2018 (UTC) .... my brains didn't just fall out but also got run over by a passing steamroller, as you can probably tell....

Don't move all of it

You moved all of the AMES cases to Osourdounmu. Only the latest batch were Osourdounmu socks. The earlier ones-- the Ljubljana IP and Xhfgwhatever, were AMES. Can they be moved back? Cheers. --Calthinus (talk) 05:40, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

I want it to remain as is.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:42, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Um why? These are sets of socks of two different masters. As I'm sure Ktrimi991 and Ivanvector can affirm. --Calthinus (talk) 15:10, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

I can affirm that when Bbb23 says "I want this left how it is" I leave it how it is. I have for a long time suspected that AMES was not that user's first account, for what it's worth. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 16:03, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

@Ivanvector: All of us suspected that AMES had prior experiences on Wikipedia but the connection with Osourdounmu came as a surprise. To clarify, if an account similar to AMES appears in the future, the report should be filed with Osourdounmu as sockmaster? Ktrimi991 (talk) 16:29, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Yes.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:45, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Ivanvector -- oh, I didn't realize AMES and Osourdounmou were the same, but this does explain a lot of things. --Calthinus (talk) 16:47, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

What happened to User:Web SourceContent?

Hello Bbb23. I just want to clarify why you blocked User:Web SourceContent as sock of User:Daciproteasa09? As per comment, the Web SourceContent is likely sock, but is unrelated to User:Daciproteasa09. That this account was created in 2016 on English Wikipedia and another different account has also been created on Ro.Wikipedia beggining July 2014. Thanks! 37.54.249.32 (talk) 14:46, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

UK sock

Hi. A new user smell like a UK sock. Can you maybe run a CU on them to see if anything shows up? Thanks. 183.171.113.225 (talk) 15:15, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Sock from a year ago - query

On September 6, 2017, you changed the block on Wikigirl97 to a checkuser block. I came across the editor's work on one of her creations, Atherton House, which needed quite a bit of work, and I see that in less than a month they created several articles, of which the majority, on NRHP properties in California, survive and for the most part need even more work. Can you tell me whether she was a sock of anyone else whose article creations also need to be checked and fixed? It's possible that this sock had their own specific focus different from that of the sockmaster, or that the person's other work has been adequately checked and fixed up, but in case it hasn't ... Yngvadottir (talk) 22:42, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

If you look at their userpage, you can see who the master is.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:35, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

I must have been tired ... but that's weird. Yngvadottir (talk) 03:40, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

Crispgatoglitz

Hi Bbb23. Not sure what to make of this. Could you take a look at it? I don't think it's a case of SOCK or EVADE, and it most likely wouldn't be considered NLT. Maybe the removing of that particular content could be justified per BLP, but again not sure why a new account would show up out of the blue to do something like that. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:10, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Just to update: the content removal was reverted by another editor. It does still seem a bit odd that a new account would show up out of the blue to do something like that. Perhaps there's something going off-Wiki between these two people (assuming they are not the same person). -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:34, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

They are the same person. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:28, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Suggested sock user bookworm8899 is back

The new account named 748920A45483 seems to be a sock of Bookworm8899 or gutmeister. He edits only tai-related topics and included fringe material without scientific references or change the meanings of sourced sentences. Could you please check him out? Thanks. 212.95.8.171 (talk) 09:51, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

DENY

Absolutely it is. But reverting admins is your department, not mine. Re: what one might describe as career augmentation; although I do not understand why they were engaged in conversation in the first place. ——SerialNumber54129 15:04, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

You didn't do anything wrong. I just went a step further.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:32, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Very much in the style of Crocodile Dundee though..."That's not a DENY. This is a DENY!" Cheers, ——SerialNumber54129 17:54, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Looks like I was right in the first place...

Thank you for removing the ANI discussion and for appending the block to 86.152.81.16. Unfortunately, like I said on the IP's talk page, I got distracted and wasn't able to fully look into things. I appreciate you for doing so while I was peeled away. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:10, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

That was one remarkable block log.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:32, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you

...but I came across this, and noticed that the account you mentioned is editing again: [2]. I don't know if it's a serious infraction or not, but I thought you might want to know. Ratatosk Jones (talk) 17:48, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Someone who actually reads what I say! Blocked and tagged. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:04, 12 October 2018 (UTC)