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== [[United States presidential election, 2020]] ==
'''Initiated by ''' [[User:Arglebargle79|Arglebargle79]] ([[User talk:Arglebargle79|talk]]) '''at''' 21:20, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

=== Involved parties ===
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*{{userlinks|Arglebargle79}}, ''filing party''
*{{userlinks|Callmemirela}}

;Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Callmemirela&oldid=771849710 Callmemirela]

;Confirmation that other steps in [[Wikipedia:dispute resolution|dispute resolution]] have been tried
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=== Statement by Arglebargle79 ===
If you look at the [[United States presidential election, 2020|2020 presidential election page]] you will notice that it's not particularly good. The simple fact is, is that at this point in time, the campaign is all about [[Donald Trump|President Trump]], who like it or not, already has a campaign committee which is raising money and paying for rallies indistingishable from those he had last year.

For some reason Callmemirela and one or two others are horrified by this and keep deleting my good faith edits to improve the damn thing. Two candidates on the Republican side are on the "interested section" for the Republicans and one of them was joking. The other was one what might call, very minor and barely qualifies as notable.

There is a picture of Trump, but is in the wrong place, and so is the paragraph on incumbency which should be in the Republican section. I tried to change this but [[User talk:Callmemirela|Callmemirela]] keeps on reverting my edits. I've tried to reason with him/her, but....

=== Statement by Callmemirela ===
Thank you for the note [[User:Amortias|Amortias]]. As for this case, I don't know why it's here. Firstly, this is a content dispute. It doesn't belong here. Secondly, Arglebargle79 has not attempted enough to resolve this issue. This includes going to the talk page extensively to come up with a solution or understand why it's being opposed, requesting RfC, going to a resolution board, seeking third opinions, etc. The only efforts they've done is readding their edits after editors opposed to them and continually (very little of it though and also weirdly) arguing their case on the talk page. They haven't bothered to reach a consensus at all. Thirdly, I am not the only party here. Other editors should be included. They have been told by numerous editors to also stop it. I don't know I'm being singled out. Also, this user seems to think that it's being opposed because we aren't fans of Trump. I wouldn't let my views and judgment come in the way of my editing. All in all, this is a content dispute and does not belong here. It belongs on the talk page. I have told ArgleBargle79 this ''plenty'' of times. Open up a discussion and, if you don't agree, go to RfC and not arbitration. [[User:Callmemirela|<span style="font-family:Courier New; font-size:14px; color:#a6587b">Callmemirela</span>]] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> [[User talk:Callmemirela|<span style="font-family:Georgia; font-size: 12px; color:#8B2252; font-weight:bold;">&#123;Talk&#125;</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Callmemirela|<span style="color:#582335">&#9809;</span>]] 22:19, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

=== Statement by Beyond My Ken ===
This is clearly a content dispute, and on those grounds I urge the Committee not to take it as a case. Even if there were behavioral issues (and what content dispute doesn't come connected with behavioral issues?), they certainly hasn't come to fruition. [[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]]) 00:21, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

=== Statement by Davey2010 ===
This should be declined as per the above - It's a content dispute and therefore should be discussed at the relevant noticeboards, Also apologies for piling on but I figured it might help in some way ?, Thanks, –[[User:Davey2010|<span style="color: blue;">'''Davey'''</span><span style="color: orange;">'''2010'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Davey2010|<span style="color: navy;">'''Talk'''</span>]]</sup> 01:02, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

===Statement by Softlavender===
{{U|Arglebargle79}}, your edit history is not extensive, so you are excused for misunderstanding, but despite its title, the '''Arbitration Committee''' does not arbitrate content disputes -- only longterm and as-yet-unresolved (despite many efforts) ''behavioral'' problems. Go back to the article's talk page, and continue to voice your concerns in a polite and collaborative way. Politics is a contentious area, so you have my sympathies, but Callmemirela is an experienced editor and I'm sure they will help you navigate the ins and outs of content-dispute resolution (and the different options available for that) if you ask. Remember that Wikipedia operates on consensus and policy, not on personal preferences, so your own preferences may not win the day even after content-dispute resolution is pursued. I hope that helps. [[User:Softlavender|Softlavender]] ([[User talk:Softlavender|talk]]) 01:50, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

=== Statement by {Non-party} ===
Other editors are free to make relevant comments on this request as necessary. Comments here should address why or why not the Committee should accept the case request or provide additional information.
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=== Clerk notes ===
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*Cleaned up request and notified other party. [[User:Amortias|Amortias]] ([[User talk:Amortias|T]])([[Special:Contributions/Amortias|C]]) 21:39, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
::{{reply|Arglebargle79}}. Please note you are required to notify the other parties that a request has been logged here. I have done this on this occasion but it is your responsibility to do so. [[User:Amortias|Amortias]] ([[User talk:Amortias|T]])([[Special:Contributions/Amortias|C]]) 21:49, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

=== Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter <0/8/0> ===
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: Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter}}<small>Vote key: (Accept/decline/recuse)</small>
*{{replyto|Arglebargle79|Callmemirela}} Have asked around for contrary views, but a quick review supports Callmemirela's argument re this being a) a content dispute, which is not a matter for Arbcom; and b) something that would need to go through several other stages of dispute resolution before it ended up here. Arglebargle79, if you disagree you're very welcome to add to your statement explaining why this request meets the preconditions for Arbcom consideration. Otherwise, suggest you withdraw it and try (perhaps) an RfC. -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 23:02, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
**Absent the above, '''decline.''' -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 22:53, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
*The [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution policy]] outlines that Arbitration is the last resort measure. Typically content issues are able to be resolved through mediation or community consensus building. At this point I would say it's a standard procedural decline and I would recommend the filing party to thoroughly read [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration]] if they believe they will need to come back here if DR does not succeed. '''[[User:Mkdw|<span style="color:black;text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px white, -4px -4px 15px white">Mkdw</span>]]''' [[User talk:Mkdw|<sup>''<span style="color: #0B0080;text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px white, -4px -4px 15px white">talk</span>''</sup>]] 16:57, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. This is not yet ripe for arbitration, per the above comments. [[User:Ks0stm|<font color="009900">'''Ks0stm'''</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Ks0stm|T]]•[[Special:Contributions/Ks0stm|C]]•[[User:Ks0stm/Guestbook|G]]•[[User:Ks0stm/Email|E]])</sup> 22:21, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' per above. [[User:Opabinia regalis|Opabinia regalis]] ([[User talk:Opabinia regalis|talk]]) 22:56, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' per above. [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill Lokshin]] ([[User talk:Kirill Lokshin|talk]]) 23:14, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
*'''Decline''', also per above. Simpler forms of dispute resolution are available here. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 23:26, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
*'''Decline''', as above. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 01:26, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
*'''Decline''', as above. [[User:Casliber|Cas Liber]] ([[User talk:Casliber|talk]] '''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Casliber|contribs]]) 04:53, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

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