User talk:IdanST

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February 2023

Hello, I'm TheManInTheBlackHat. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, History of general-purpose CPUs, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Please avoid citing Wikipedia, see WP:CIRCULAR TheManInTheBlackHat (Talk) 17:03, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

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Zero^talk 11:33, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

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Happy editing! Selfstudier (talk) 12:54, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

May 2024

Hello, I'm Amigao. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Norinco, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. "Citation needed" tag added. Amigao (talk) 17:12, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Okay, 3 sources were added. IdanST (talk) 18:05, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

KLM

Hey, you updated the revenue and net income in the infobox of the KLM article. Both figures might be correct for AirFranceKLM, but that article is only about KLM. So both figures are false. WikiPate (talk) 20:14, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Can you please show exactly what were the figues I published that you claim were false? IdanST (talk) 19:29, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Hey, sure.

Here you claimed that the net income of KLM was €934 million in 2023.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=KLM&diff=prev&oldid=1223988696

Here you claimed that the revenue of KLM was €30 billion in 2023.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=KLM&diff=prev&oldid=1223987821

Both figures are incorrect regarding the airline KLM. WikiPate (talk) 10:59, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

You're absolutely right.

I was wrong; it was unprofessional of me. Thanks for editing that and notifying me about the mistake. IdanST (talk) 18:49, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

August 2024

Hello, I'm AgisdeSparte. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Nathan Anderson, but you didn't provide a source. I’ve removed it for now, but if you’d like to include a citation to a reliable source and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. AgisdeSparte (talk) 13:31, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

You could clearly see in my edit that I left a source, yet you deleted it and falsely claimed that I "didn"t provide a source".

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nathan_Anderson&diff=prev&oldid=1242743319 IdanST (talk) 19:31, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

WP:ECR

If you continue to violate WP:ECR as you did here you will be blocked from editing. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:12, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

October 2024

To enforce an arbitration decision, and for WP:ECR violations, incivility, you have been blocked from editing Wikipedia for a period of 1 week. You are welcome to edit once the block expires; however, please note that the repetition of similar behavior may result in a longer block or other sanctions.

If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the guide to appealing blocks (specifically this section) before appealing. Place the following on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Please copy my appeal to the [[WP:AE|arbitration enforcement noticeboard]] or [[WP:AN|administrators' noticeboard]]. Your reason here OR place the reason below this template. ~~~~}}. If you intend to appeal on the arbitration enforcement noticeboard, I suggest you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template on your talk page so it can be copied over easily. You may also appeal directly to me (by email), before or instead of appealing on your talk page. 

ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:39, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

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Well, you User:ScottishFinnishRadish proved again:

1. You're a bully that threatens anyone that points out on lies.
2. You proved what I've written: "It's shocking that senior Wikipedia editors publish LIES all the time".

Also, you proved you decided to ban an editor while you're in a conflict of interests; one of your adminship and second because you're a bully and power hunger that can't receive criticism for your poorly judgement.

You're a threat to Wikipedia, and also to any editor that points out on lies.

P.S.

I'm still waiting for you to mention exactly what WP:ECR rule I violated, although you still refuse to do so and even ban editors with no proves. IdanST (talk) 21:06, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

This is not an actionable edit request. This and this are blatant violations. With your incivility you're lucky I went with the standard one week for ECR violations. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:06, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much for providing your own proves, although it took you 3 times and a ban on an editor just to provide them, very professional.

I'll address to each one, if you may:

1.This one is clearly an edit request - pointing out that Maariv (newspaper) "source" is a LIE. Maariv NEVER reported on this lie, the source is in fact Al Jazeera that lied, as usual. You warned me, in fact you threatened me, for pointing out on this vicious lie that slanders Maariv, as already proved HERE. It's a blatant violation of yours, for enforcing lies and "threatens anyone that points out on lies", as I've already stated HERE, but who will punish you?

2. This is not an incivility, how complimenting a fellow editor is incivility?

3. This is indeed may considered as blatant violation, because although I warned about constant lies and edit warring the editor had done, it wasn't my role, although none of admins, including you, refused or failed to actually fulfill their duties against this ongoing propaganda being created by this editor. IdanST (talk) 12:56, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Ignoring appeals is an act of uncivility.

I'm still waiting ScottishFinnishRadish IdanST (talk) 19:30, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

You have been blocked temporarily from editing for abuse of editing privileges. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. In addition, your ability to edit your talk page has also been revoked.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then submit a request to the Unblock Ticket Request System.  Doug Weller talk 14:37, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Are you gonna answer why you banned me while I was already banned by ScottishFinnishRadish?

Or why you banned me while refusing or failing to provide proves?

Also, how exactly I was supposed to appeal via Unblock Ticket Request System, if the staff replied that I'm supposed to appeal via my talk page, which you decided to revoke my access? IdanST (talk) 07:05, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

To enforce an arbitration decision, and for WP:ECR violations, WP:POINTy editing, you have been blocked from editing Wikipedia for a period of 1 month. You are welcome to edit once the block expires; however, please note that the repetition of similar behavior may result in a longer block or other sanctions.

If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the guide to appealing blocks (specifically this section) before appealing. Place the following on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Please copy my appeal to the [[WP:AE|arbitration enforcement noticeboard]] or [[WP:AN|administrators' noticeboard]]. Your reason here OR place the reason below this template. ~~~~}}. If you intend to appeal on the arbitration enforcement noticeboard, I suggest you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template on your talk page so it can be copied over easily. You may also appeal directly to me (by email), before or instead of appealing on your talk page. 

ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:20, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Request to know the alleged violations for which I was banned for one month, in order to file an appeal. IdanST (talk) 12:27, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

{{unblock|reason=Please copy my appeal to the [[WP:AE|arbitration enforcement noticeboard]].

I was blocked for 1 month. I was not aware of the edits on which the admin ScottishFinnishRadish based the violations leading to this block because the admin failed to inform me. However, after a couple of weeks, I recently saw a comment by the same admin stating that the edits leading to the block "were [10], [11], and [12], which are also clear ECR violations."

I appeal on this block because I believe these were justified edits because:

1. This edit: violation WP:ECR. It's clearly an edit request under WP:ECR Section A.1. - pointing out on a blatant violation of WP:NPOV. The article presents Yahya Sinwar as the political head and Mohammed Deif as the military head, but for the opposing side, only Colonels are listed. Senior military officers like Brigadier General Avi Rosenfeld, General Yaron Finkelman, and Chief of Staff Herzi Halevi , all of whom participated, were omitted. I didn’t even include the political head, Benjamin Netanyahu. The admin deleted this edit request and used it, along with two other edits, as grounds for blocking me while violating WP:NPOV and WP:ADMINACCT.
2. This edit: violation WP:ECR. It's basically similiar to the first edit (request) under WP:ECR Section A.1., just in a reply in the "Talk" section, only this time I've added the political figures "defence minister Yoav Gallant and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu", in contrast with the political Hamas head Yahya Sinwar. However, I acknowledge that maybe these suggestions were not very comprehensive and clear and I'll try to improve my editing.
3. This edit: violation WP:ECR. I'll explain the background. Beforehand I've left a barnstar on this user as it's allowed, and even encouraged, under WP:BARN: "Remember, any user can give out Barnstars! You do not have to be an administrator!". Then, the same admin deleted my message ("reason: WP:ECR") and included that in a previous block for 1 week. Now, the same admin deleted this message and stating, again, "reason: WP:ECR". I've read ECR rules and there is no statement forbidding users with fewer than 500 edits from leaving messages or barnstars on others’ talk pages.

In conclusion, I strongly believe these 3 edits were justified.

Regardless of this appeal, I want to apologize to ScottishFinnishRadish for my behavior on my own talk page. I should not have acted that way, violating WP:NPA and being unprofessional. My belief that I was wrongly blocked, combined with the admin’s failure to specify my violations, does not excuse my behavior, and for that, I apologize.

~~~~}} IdanST (talk) 14:14, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

-Reply to xDanielx comment-

"Copied over by request. This was also appealed at AN previously. — xDanielx"

This was not appealed at AN. What I appealed at AN was the 1-week block, which I appealed after it expired, and it had nothing to do with the current 1-month block. IdanST (talk) 08:07, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

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Reminder to administrators: In May 2014, ArbCom adopted the following procedure instructing administrators regarding Arbitration Enforcement blocks: "No administrator may modify a sanction placed by another administrator without: (1) the explicit prior affirmative consent of the enforcing administrator; or (2) prior affirmative agreement for the modification at (a) AE or (b) AN or (c) ARCA (see "Important notes"). Administrators modifying sanctions out of process may at the discretion of the committee be desysopped."

So instead of replying to my appeal you decided to ban me for 1 month? IdanST (talk) 18:15, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

BTW, your actions against me are vandalism and persecution, as shown here, here, letting that racist slur talk comment to exist, while reverting my minor edit here, all while ignoring my appeal for over a week as shown here. IdanST (talk) 18:34, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

You didn't appeal, you complained that the sanctions in the topic area were enforced. Your talk page access was revoked because you were not constructively using your talk page. Talk page access when blocked is primarily for appealing, not for attacking other editors or continuing to violate the extended-confirmed restriction. When your block expired you immediately resumed violating ECR, so you were blocked again. If you continue to violate ECR on your talk page or attack other editors your talk page access will be revoked again, and your block will likely become indefinite. Instructions for appealing an arbitration enforcement block are included in your block notice. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:41, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Per your emailed request I have restored your talk page access. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:42, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

IdanST (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

Please copy my appeal to the arbitration enforcement noticeboard or administrators' noticeboard. I believe my ban is unjustified for the following reasons: 1.This one is clearly an edit request under WP:ECR Section A.1. - pointing out that Maariv (newspaper) "source" is a LIE. Maariv NEVER reported on this lie, the source is in fact Al Jazeera which has been proven to have lied in this instance, as shown HERE. 2. This is not an incivility nor breaking the rules, it's allowed under WP:BARN. 3. This is a warning before taking actions, like reporting, for blatant violations of WP:POINTy and WP:WAR. I understand now that I should have reported the user instead of leaving a notice on their talk page, as it seems that discussing and warning is discouraged, and direct reporting and banning are preferred.

Decline reason:

Being appealed at AN ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:56, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

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IdanST (talk) 10:37, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

Would you like to appeal at WP:AN or WP:AE. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:14, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

WP:AN IdanST (talk) 12:26, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

Posted. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:40, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

I want to clarify that I appealed the first block.

I didn't appeal the second block yet because I am not aware of the alleged violations for which I was banned for one month. IdanST (talk) 15:03, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

Appeal copied to AE

Hi, just a note that I've copied your appeal above to AE. The thread is here. — xDanielx ^T/_C\^R 18:00, 27 October 2024 (UTC)