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:::Potatín5, just noting that other sources in the historicity section such as the Oxford Companion and Oxford online ones say similar things. I think your source is a good one as part of the range of views found in scholarship.[[User:Ramos1990| Ramos1990]] ([[User talk:Ramos1990|talk]]) 17:37, 29 November 2023 (UTC) |
:::Potatín5, just noting that other sources in the historicity section such as the Oxford Companion and Oxford online ones say similar things. I think your source is a good one as part of the range of views found in scholarship.[[User:Ramos1990| Ramos1990]] ([[User talk:Ramos1990|talk]]) 17:37, 29 November 2023 (UTC) |
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::::It cannot be proven that Moses did not exist, but in the case he existed he wasn't the bigger than life character of the Bible. [[User:tgeorgescu|tgeorgescu]] ([[User talk:tgeorgescu|talk]]) 12:07, 30 November 2023 (UTC) |
::::It cannot be proven that Moses did not exist, but in the case he existed he wasn't the bigger than life character of the Bible. [[User:tgeorgescu|tgeorgescu]] ([[User talk:tgeorgescu|talk]]) 12:07, 30 November 2023 (UTC) |
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:We need a rightwashed image of Moses. He was a black Hebrew and haplogroup E [[User:Wmcdonald19751975|Wmcdonald19751975]] ([[User talk:Wmcdonald19751975|talk]]) 00:15, 31 March 2024 (UTC) |
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== Druze and Baha'i faithes == |
== Druze and Baha'i faithes == |
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Possible addition to the 'Film' subject + addition of a Theatre subject
I was wondering, would it be possible to add that the film 'The Prince of Egypt' depicts Moses and the Egyptian Pharaoh as Rameses? It's just so as to make clear that the film is merely an adaptation with artistic license. Also, a musical theatre adaptation of 'The Prince of Egypt' was released in London in 2020, on the West End. Could someone add in that subject, to contribute to the depictions of Moses in popular culture? Thanks! Two Red Engines
The Etymology
While the Wikipedia page gives the Egyptian version of Yehuda's etymology as "mw-zꜣ", this is actually a neat piece of original scholarship. Yehuda and Ulmer (the source) actually propose "mw-š". This section should be revised beyond this issue, but nevertheless it is inappropriate to allow such a misattribution to stand.
Konrad Schmid & Jens Schröter
User @Scorpions1325 has reverted this edit of mine where I quoted the opinion of two major Bible scholars (Konrad Schmid and Jens Schröter) on the historicity of Moses, from a book published by Harvard University Press. As an explanation from his reversal he has stated that I need to Get consensus on the talk page before turning the article on its head
. Personally, I don't think that citing the opinion of the authors of a WP:RS on the topic has anything to do with "turning the article on its head", especially when the very first sentence of the Historicity section states that Scholars hold different opinions on the historicity of Moses
. Why do you think that the opinions of those two scholars cannot be cited in the article? Potatín5 (talk) 13:59, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- It doesn't sound like very many scholars agree that Moses as described in the Bible was a historical person. I personally believe in a Moses-like figure, but saying that the Moses of the Bible was a historical figure out of context seems like we are heading into WP:FRINGE territory. You should prove these opinions aren't WP:FRINGE by adding more sources that agree with the scholars you cited. Scorpions1325 (talk) 14:03, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- In this previous edit user Ramos1990 provided another source which states that
there are still many who view the source material concerning Moses with incipient optimism (Campbell; Albright 1973, 48-76; Beegle; Hoffmeier)
, and our current article also mentions that, according to Solomon Nigosian, there are scholars who believe that Moses existed and that he played a decisive role in the history of Israelite religion. Do you think that these sources are enough? Potatín5 (talk) 14:14, 29 November 2023 (UTC)- Potatín5, just noting that other sources in the historicity section such as the Oxford Companion and Oxford online ones say similar things. I think your source is a good one as part of the range of views found in scholarship. Ramos1990 (talk) 17:37, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- It cannot be proven that Moses did not exist, but in the case he existed he wasn't the bigger than life character of the Bible. tgeorgescu (talk) 12:07, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Potatín5, just noting that other sources in the historicity section such as the Oxford Companion and Oxford online ones say similar things. I think your source is a good one as part of the range of views found in scholarship. Ramos1990 (talk) 17:37, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- In this previous edit user Ramos1990 provided another source which states that
- We need a rightwashed image of Moses. He was a black Hebrew and haplogroup E Wmcdonald19751975 (talk) 00:15, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
Druze and Baha'i faithes
The text is written as if the Druze and Baha'i faithes are part of Abrahamic religions. But is it correct? Aminabzz (talk) 15:41, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- Our article on Abrahamic religions discusses this; if you have a concern, I would suggest starting there. Regards, Orange Suede Sofa (talk) 00:59, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
Categories for Moses article
Could someone put Moses in Category:Book of Deuteronomy people —W2024 (talk) 02:59, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
Could someone please also make Moses, a member of Category:Book of Leviticus people
—-W2024 (talk) 03:22, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- Done. I changed the category for Deuteronomy by adding "people". Since it's a subcategory, the main category doesn't need to be listed. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 04:13, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for adding it to Category:Book of Deuteronomy people. Could someone put it in Category:Book of Leviticus people —-W2024 (talk) 04:31, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
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