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Regarding addition DC.

Hi, saw your AfD nom on Mohd afzal parray, Saw that you’ve written that A. DC is not notable post, mind explaining how? As far as i think and know, it is a notable post.-- Jammumylove Talk to me or ^{CHECK MY RECENT WORK} 21:45, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jammumylove, not only Adl. DC is non-notable, but DC is also a non notable post. It decide their fortune not notability. Wikipedia is an international encyclopaedia that determines notable per reliable entries, however only sources are not enough to determine notability, a subject should meet at least one criteria. According to WP:POLITICIAN, politicians are notable if they held international, national or state/province post. As you might be aware, DDC members, including chairperson and DC are not state/province-level post. Regards TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 04:20, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

TheBirdsShedTears, The article has proper secondary sources as per WP:RS, did you check? looks like meets BASIC also DC is a notable post, it's very obvious that a DC would obviously be having Secondary sources like article's for his work.-- Jammumylove Talk to me or ^{CHECK MY RECENT WORK} 18:58, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jammumylove, secondary sources and independent sources are two different standards and norms which determines notability variously. For instance, if a federal or state/provincial politician is cited with secondary sources even with trivial mention, it doesn't need to be supported by independent sources (it doesn't apply to its controversial content. Any controversial part must satisfy RS's WP:V) and it may be retained even it fails to pass general notability criteria. However, local politicians (local body) needs to be supported by independent reliable sources not with trivial mention. The subject in question is cited with reliable sources but unfortunately all news sources primarily discuss the DDC results not the subject in question. His name appears in news sources along with other candidates. An example of independent reliable source here that discusses Hanan Al Hroub independently. Also, District collector (DC) and Divisional commissioner are not a notable posts, however a chief secretary is a notable post. Regards TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 22:35, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Look at this Shahid Iqbal Choudhary He's a DC. Hope this clears your confusion. -- Jammumylove Talk to me or ^{CHECK MY RECENT WORK} 05:30, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jammumylove, You are mistaken! It says, "He was the "first Muslim from Jammu region" and "first Gurjar from J&K" to qualify Indian Administrative Service as an direct recruit IAS. It means, he is notable only for being the first IAS officer from Gujjar tribe and first Muslim from Jammu. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 05:50, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oh alright, i guess sehrish asgar is notable as well for an article then First muslim woman to qualify https://www.ndtv.com/video/news/news/meet-j-k-s-first-muslim-woman-qualifier-for-ias-231453 -- Jammumylove Talk to me or ^{CHECK MY RECENT WORK} 06:33, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jammumylove, Shahid Iqbal Chowdhury has received multiple awards, however his notability is still questionable since the awards he received are non-notable. Sehrish fails notability criteria, please see WP:BIO1E for detailed information. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 06:40, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The picture on infobox states Shahid Iqbal receiving Prime Minister’s Award for Excellence in Public Administration from Prime Minister of India Narendra Modi How is this a non notable award? -- Jammumylove Talk to me or ^{CHECK MY RECENT WORK} 07:29, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jammumylove, Award for Excellence in Public Administration doesn't have an article on English Wikipedia. Please see list of notable Indian awards. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 18:14, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

TheBirdsShedTears, Hey, Can you tell me what would be the notability guidelines for political parties? I Mean as far as i think and as discussed here Block dev polls aren't notable right? Check This Jammu_and_Kashmir_Workers_Party I Don't think that this party meets WP:GNG, my WP:BEFORE gave nothing. so wanted to consult you for this. Does this party qualify using any other criteria for BDC polls? -- Jammumylove Talk to me or ^{CHECK MY RECENT WORK} 11:12, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It appears a non notable party. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 07:05, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

TheBirdsShedTears, what policy did you follow? -- Jammumylove Talk to me or ^{CHECK MY RECENT WORK} 07:31, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

TheBirdsShedTears, Mir Junaid Check this as well. -- Jammumylove Talk to me or ^{CHECK MY RECENT WORK} 07:34, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WP:INDICSCRIPT

Please don't apply WP:INDICSCRIPT to other country's articles. This guideline is for predominantly India-related articles. WP:INDICSCRIPT clearly says: "This avoidance of Indic scripts only applies to articles that are predominantly India-related and is excluded from, among others, articles about Hinduism, Buddhism, or any of India's neighbouring countries." You should not apply WP:INDICSCRIPT to Afghanistan, Pakistan, or any of India's neighbouring countries. Correct me if i am wrong. This is completely wrong use of WP:INDICSCRIPT guideline. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 21:46, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

TheBirdsShedTears I agree with আফতাবুজ্জামান. The INDICSCRIPT rule only applies to articles falling within the scope of the WikiProject India, where it had been agreed on, and can only be applied if it does not clash with other projects ruling the given article (e.g., WP:HINDUISM). Your shouldn't be removing Urdu script from Pakistan-related articles. Can I expect you'll fix all the articles you incorrectly edited? Thanks. — kashmīrī ^TALK 23:30, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

আফতাবুজ্জামান and Kashmiri thank you for your attention. I've removed indic script from many articles and it's difficult for me to undo my changes. However, I will try to fix the issue as soon as possible. Please undo my changes if you find any such edits that I made. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 06:08, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

OK, i will try. You probably get lots of revet notification, just ignore those. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 13:00, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

TheBirdsShedTears I see that you still have not restored the Urdu script you removed from a lot of articles. Can you do it asap? Thanks. — kashmīrī ^TALK 08:35, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kashmiri, as I earlier said, I don't remember the articles where I've deleted the Indian script. Therefore, if you find such articles please undo my edits. Regards TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 09:55, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

TheBirdsShedTears, No need to remember, please visit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/TheBirdsShedTears. — kashmīrī ^TALK 15:28, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Rekhta author ID

Hi. Just to let you know that Rekhta author ID has been created on Wikidata. Please add this identifier when you create Urdu writer's page on Wikidata. Keep up your good work.! Thanks. --Gazal world (talk) 22:29, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gazal world, thanks for letting me know. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 08:29, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Anti-Muslim reactions to the COVID-19 pandemic in India

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Your draft article, Draft:Shama (1961 film)

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This is in regard to change in opindia page

I have noticed that you made a change in opindia recently by moving the added content to the reception section. But you have done that selectively. The 2020 incident should get shifted to the reception section from lead in the same parameter you have applied to move 2019 occasion or both should be together in the lead. Hoping for your answer to the matter. (This is me Jarvis (talk) 12:55, 24 June 2021 (UTC))[reply]

This is me Jarvis, lead section is used to summarise the topic straightforward. It is the first paragraph that identifies the topic. Editors may consider adding only necessary information in lead. Please see WP:COI for future reference. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 14:57, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Maa Beta

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About the Draft:2004 Connecticut State Senate election

So I see you declined the draft because it should be merged into an exisiting article 2004 United States Senate election in Connecticut. The thing is those are two different elections, even though they're in the same state. They shouldn't be merged. The draft article is at the State level and the 2004 United States Senate election in Connecticut is at the federal level. Dillon251992 (talk) 15:50, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dillon251992, thanks for letting me know that they're two different elections. I just came across some articles here 2012 United States Senate election in Connecticut / 2012 Connecticut State Senate election and

2018 Connecticut State Senate election / 2018 United States Senate election in Connecticut. You may resubmit your draft. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 15:59, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. It can be confusing as they are identical. I should had put a Distinguish on it. I'm glad you were able to just accept the draft without the wait process even though you were ok with me resubmitting it. I thank you for that. Dillon251992 (talk) 20:48, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

About ALDO CARRASCOSO page

Hi,

I would like to ask for further clarifications regarding the secondary sources used in the page draft titled Aldo Carrascoso. Which particular references are not accepted? I've provided quite the references list from local and international media that have been covering his and his company's work. Would gladly accept any help possible. Thank you!

PioVG14, None of reliable sources talks about subject. If you think the added sources are independently about your submission, please link one here. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 15:46, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Saturday AM (magazine)

Fico Puricelli, I am currently working on old submissions that are awaiting review. Any unsourced material must not be added to submissions as it leads to submission decline, reject or delay in accepting. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 11:29, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for everything, and sorry if I wrote something out of the question. I still need a way to expand, but it will take a lot of time. Fico Puricelli (talk) 11:42, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Articles for Creation July 2021 Backlog Elimination Drive

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Draft:Stefan_Markovski

Plicabelles, the first 9 sources added in submission are book databases, shopping sites, and blogs. You need to go through submission and replace unreliable sources with reliable sources. It is better to remove poorly sourced content in case reliable sources are not available. I am ok with slobodenpecat.mk, sitel.com.mk, opserver.mk, and novamakedonija.com.mk. Rest of other sources you listed here are unreliable. Also, IMDb, Amazon are not reliable sources. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 08:27, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There are also articles on the Macedonian Ministry of Culture's website, as well as other .gov websites: http://kultura.gov.mk/stefan-markovski-vo-megunarodnata-poetska-antologija-hibiskus/ http://kultura.gov.mk/македонските-писатели-отец-пимен-сте/ http://kultura.gov.mk/formirano-makedonsko-turski-pisatelsko-drustvo-na-prijatelstvo/

http://www.gevgelija.gov.mk/vesti/104-kultura/357-песни-од-стефан-марковски-објавени-во-мексико,-перу-и-шпанија http://www.gevgelija.gov.mk/e-opstina/603-стефан-марковски-на-“европска-ноќ-на-литературата“-во-софија http://www.gevgelija.gov.mk/e-opstina/502-стефан-марковски-на-англиски-јазик

Also, mia.mk is the country's official informative agency: https://mia.mk/roman-na-gevgelichanecot-stefan-markovski-na-prodavan-na-platformata-amazon/ https://mia.mk/eretichki-pisma-na-stefan-markovski-ob-aven-na-angliski-azik/ https://mia.mk/stefan-markovski-zastapen-vo-me-unarodnata-poetska-antologi-a-hibiskus/

It should be mentioned that many websites, including mia.mk are regularly deleting their old content.

Alessando Grego

Thank you for your revision of Alessandro Grego page. I am very sorry that it did not met the necessary criteria and I will work on it for improvement. In your opinion, if the article is shortened and only a few well sourced elements are left, would it do? Thanks, Cormarer (talk) 05:43, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cormarer, atleast 3 great sources are required to demonstrate notability. Any unsourced material must be either removed or cited with reliable entries. In case, sources are not available for specific content/parts of submission, you may remove it. Since your submission is about a musician, please try to add discography with reliable entries. A good lead section, career, and discography should be added. Notability is not determined by the length of article, but it is demonstrated by reliable sources. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 05:57, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding shortcuts

Can you please tell me how to use shortcuts as referencing to wiki pages like WP:REFB Thank you (This is me Jarvis (talk) 06:46, 9 July 2021 (UTC))[reply]

This is me Jarvis, visit any Wikipedia project page and you see shortcuts on the right side of the page. For instance, if you try to link Wikipedia:Citation overkill, you may visit this page and find shortcuts on its right side. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 06:55, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think I have learnt the above mentioned query. So not to address that. But can you tell me how to use twinkle while recent changes patrolling Thank you. (This is me Jarvis (talk) 06:57, 9 July 2021 (UTC))[reply]

Please ask any question regarding twinkle at Wikipedia talk:Twinkle. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 07:01, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Draft

Hi, you recently reviewed draft:Empower Work, I would like to thank you for what is basically an instant review. I have added one more source to the article, and I think it's enough sources to have atleast 2 reliable sources that provide significant coverage to the topic.

https://qz.com/work/1419478/empower-work-lets-anxious-employees-text-counselors-for-free/ Quartz

https://www.fastcompany.com/40499797/can-these-apps-help-you-when-your-hr-department-fails Fast Company

https://techcrunch.com/2018/02/10/hr-has-lost-the-trust-of-employees-here-is-who-has-it-now/ Tech Crunch

https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/careers-finance/sns-volunteering-can-help-gain-skills-and-land-job-20200225-jh27f7zxtrewlm5j3sr67xq2nu-story.html Chicago Tribune

If you think it passes GNG, please be really nitpicky about the tone of the article, I'll appreciate any feedback you give me, thanks!

--Justi yaya 07:55, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to now analyze my sources:

Quartz: Mentioned founder's name 8 times mentioned organization name 6 times, basically the whole article is about it

Fast Company: Founder's name 2 times, organization name 3 times Whole article is basically about it, provides a criticism section (I should include that in the article)

Tech Crunch: 6 mentions for organization name, 8 mentions for founder name, section written about it (not the whole article) about 1/4-1/3

Chicago Tribune (newly added): 3 mentions for founder's name and another 3 for organization name. Article is basically interviews with NGOs and people who volunteered there, about half of the article covers the organization.

I believe that the article at least has 2-3 reliable sources that provide significant coverage, and maybe 4.

-- Justi yaya 15:56, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Justiyaya, if you believe added sources are sufficient to justify notability, you may resubmit it for AfC review. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 16:03, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done, thanks! Justi yaya 16:31, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Stephen Hogan

Thanks for your rejection on the Stephen Hogan article. Have you even seen his movie Starship Troopers 3: Marauder before calling yourself a cinephile? There are way less notable persons here on Wikipedia who have a page. This is ridiculous. Supermann (talk) 15:17, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Supermann, he might be a prominent actor, but notability is demonstrated by WP:V and WP:RS. trivial mentions are not enough to satisfy notability. Please refer to WP:NPA for future reference. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 15:24, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

With five major newspaper saying he is an actor and so much filmography, which is incomplete, why do you keep saying it's not verifiable or reliably sourced. This just doesn't make sense. But obviously, he didn't have an Oscars if that's what you mean about being notable. If you compare him to the rest of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Irish_male_film_actors, there are others that should be turned back to draft status by your standard. Please be fair. That's all I am asking. Thanks! Supermann (talk) 18:22, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If you believe your submission is notable, you may resubmit it for AfC review. Please see WP:COI for future reference. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 18:52, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If you think other articles should be moved to draftspace, you may take them to AfD. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 18:54, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't do lose-lose. I do win-win. It doesn't benefit readers at all by putting him in a draft status. It seems you have a myopic view, with all due respect. There is no conflict of interest whatsoever, btw. Supermann (talk) 22:40, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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	If you think other articles should be moved to draftspace, you may take them to AfD. [[User:TheBirdsShedTears\|TheBirdsShedTears]] ([[User talk:TheBirdsShedTears#top\|talk]]) 18:54, 10 July 2021 (UTC)		If you think other articles should be moved to draftspace, you may take them to AfD. [[User:TheBirdsShedTears\|TheBirdsShedTears]] ([[User talk:TheBirdsShedTears#top\|talk]]) 18:54, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

			:I don't do lose-lose. I do win-win. It doesn't benefit readers at all by putting him in a draft status. It seems you have a myopic view, with all due respect. There is no conflict of interest whatsoever, btw. [[User:Supermann\|Supermann]] ([[User talk:Supermann\|talk]]) 22:40, 10 July 2021 (UTC)