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'{{User:ClueBot III/ArchiveThis | age =2160 | archiveprefix =User talk:Slatersteven/Archive | numberstart =1 | maxarchsize =75000 | header ={{Automatic archive navigator}} | minkeepthreads =5 | format = %%i }}{{Archives|bot=ClueBot III|age=90}} <!-- Template:Setup cluebot archiving --> == Undid revision 1165211883 by 89.240.193.119 (talk)Make a proper case undo Tag: Undo == That sure was quick, down the memory hole it must go. Did you ever think you would function as an unpaid agent for the neo-con industrial complex ;) <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/89.240.193.119|89.240.193.119]] ([[User talk:89.240.193.119#top|talk]]) 18:40, 13 July 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> :Yes. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 18:42, 13 July 2023 (UTC) ==White Privilege== Your User page states: "I almost felt that a month ago. Then I was forced to face up to the fact that even though (In my youth) I was stopped on sus maybe twice A year I never feared the interaction might lead to my death. That is white privileged, not having to fear the police." Whites are killed by police more than any other race. So clearly interactions between whites and police lead to whites getting killed. Further, Black Harvard professor Roland Fryer did a study showing whites are more likely to be shot by police than non-whites. So your belief that whites don't have to fear the police is simply untrue. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2601:18D:8D80:A560:FDAC:A931:F7F1:9107|2601:18D:8D80:A560:FDAC:A931:F7F1:9107]] ([[User talk:2601:18D:8D80:A560:FDAC:A931:F7F1:9107#top|talk]]) 21:59, 9 February 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> :There are more whites. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 12:44, 10 February 2023 (UTC) ::And despite that, whites commit less murder than blacks. ::I notice you didn't address whites being more likely than non-whites to get shot by police. Seems like a good reason whites have to fear the police then. Getting shot and killed. When can I expect you to delete the false claim on your user page? [[Special:Contributions/2601:18D:8D80:A560:61F7:1C05:1C95:ED8|2601:18D:8D80:A560:61F7:1C05:1C95:ED8]] ([[User talk:2601:18D:8D80:A560:61F7:1C05:1C95:ED8|talk]]) 21:39, 8 May 2023 (UTC) :::Do you understand the concept of percentages? Whites commit more murders per capita and are more likely to get away with murdering a black. Also, do you not understand that the FBI (run by a Trump Republican) has stated white supremacists are far more likely to engage in mass shootings (like the one yesterday in Texas) and that the blacks that are shot are very often unarmed, stopped for minor traffic violations by police? :::[[User:Objective3000|O3000, Ret.]] ([[User talk:Objective3000|talk]]) 22:06, 8 May 2023 (UTC) ::::1) LOL what?? Blacks commit **many times** more murder per capita than whites, as well as more murders in terms of absolute numbers. Blacks commit over 60% of the total murder. And given they're only 13% of the population, it is also significantly times higher on a per capita basis. ::::2) Blacks commit more mass shootings than white supremacists. Most mass shootings are done by blacks. He can say whatever he wants, but we have actual numbers on this. ::::3) The number of unarmed blacks shot & killed by police in any given year is about 10-20. A study found that liberals estimate this number to be 1000 or more. Quit a gap between reality and the liberal perception of it. [[Special:Contributions/2601:18D:8D80:A560:DD5E:2F83:D23A:71BB|2601:18D:8D80:A560:DD5E:2F83:D23A:71BB]] ([[User talk:2601:18D:8D80:A560:DD5E:2F83:D23A:71BB|talk]]) 04:03, 15 June 2023 (UTC) ::::::Apart from, not all of that being true, so? [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 11:24, 15 June 2023 (UTC) :::::::One of the questions we’re asked most often is how we decide what’s allowed on Facebook. These decisions are among [[Special:Contributions/117.20.113.243|117.20.113.243]] ([[User talk:117.20.113.243|talk]]) 17:14, 24 June 2023 (UTC) :::::::::This is not facebook. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 12:39, 25 June 2023 (UTC) :::Yes I did, there are more white so they are going to have more interaction, and most mass shooters are white. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 09:52, 9 May 2023 (UTC) ::::People don't have interactions with police based on their racial group membership's share of the population. They have interactions based on their propensity to commit crime. This is why men have more interactions with police more than women even though men and women each make up roughly 50% of the population (because men commit more crime than women). ::::Blacks commit crime, and violent crime in particular, at insanely disproportionate rates. Waaaaay higher than do whites. They are going to have more interactions with police because of this, on a per capita basis (because they are committing way more crime per capita than whites). ::::And again, you didn't address my comment, that '''whites are more likely to be shot by police than non-whites on a per interaction basis.''' Not just because there are more whites. But '''per interaction'''. ::::And to circle back to your comment that started this whole discussion, namely that "That is white privileged, not having to fear the police." This is quite clearly totally empirically false and wrong. I await your retraction. [[Special:Contributions/2601:18D:8D80:A560:DD5E:2F83:D23A:71BB|2601:18D:8D80:A560:DD5E:2F83:D23A:71BB]] ([[User talk:2601:18D:8D80:A560:DD5E:2F83:D23A:71BB|talk]]) 04:13, 15 June 2023 (UTC) ::::::Apart from, not all of that being true, so? [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 11:24, 15 June 2023 (UTC) == Opposition to ill link on Natan Khazin == Hi, regarding [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Azov_Brigade&diff=1150833116&oldid=1150833014 this revert], what is your opposition to an interlanguage link on {{ill|Natan Khazin|uk|Натан Хазін}}? &mdash;[[User:Tcr25|Carter (Tcr25)]] ([[User talk:Tcr25|talk]]) 11:35, 20 April 2023 (UTC) :I generally dislike links to no English wiki's as I can't read them. So I fail to see the point. If they can't pass OUR notability guideline (and that linked article frankly leaves a lot to be desired) then I see no value linking to one that does not. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 11:39, 20 April 2023 (UTC) ::I'd disagree with that assessment of ill links. When I can read them, it's helpful; when I can't, Google Translate usually can. In either case, an ill link is superior to a red link (which was there when I added the ill) as it can provide some additional information and can spur those do read the language to consider adding an article here (assuming the subject meets [[WP:N]]). I'd agree that the Ukrainian article is a stub at best, but that doesn't mean Khazin wouldn't meet WP:N. &mdash;[[User:Tcr25|Carter (Tcr25)]] ([[User talk:Tcr25|talk]]) [[User:Tcr25|Carter (Tcr25)]] ([[User talk:Tcr25|talk]]) 11:59, 20 April 2023 (UTC) :::Or we have no link, as we now do. Which I think is better as red links make the page look untidy. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 12:08, 20 April 2023 (UTC) ::::Agree to disagree on that. I'd value even a marginal amount of additional information over the untidiness of a red link. Given that there isn't a policy-based reason to remove the ill link, I'd ask you to reconsider your revert. Thanks &mdash;[[User:Tcr25|Carter (Tcr25)]] ([[User talk:Tcr25|talk]]) :: Slatersteven if you are removing ILL links '''please stop'''. They are used to collate lists of articles that do not exist at en-wikipedia but should, as measured by the redlinks, and can easily be created by someone, as measured by the language links. They are not trivial to set up, and every time you delete one a wikiangel cries over the loss of other editors' constructive work. If the color of the links offends you perhaps someone could produce a hack that hides them from you or even globally turns them some other color, just for you. I even volunteer to investigate whether this can be done just to please you [[User:Elinruby|Elinruby]] ([[User talk:Elinruby|talk]]) 03:02, 16 June 2023 (UTC) ::{{tps}} Second Elinruby on this. Interlanguage links are a very good tool, and should be used more, per [[WP:RED]] and like. If you don't want to add them, you don't have too (it takes some wiki literacy skills) but removing them is, well, vandalism. I hope you don't mind me saying so, I respect the good work you do in many areas of this project, but, pretty please with the cherry on top, do not remove ill templates from articles. A few weeks ago I had to "waste" a good hour of my time restoring ill links that another well-intentioned editor removed from an article, making it less informative. Sigh. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]&#124;[[User talk:Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span>]]</sub> 09:25, 17 June 2023 (UTC) == Allies of WWII RfC == I hope you don't mind my dropping in on your talk page, but I was hoping you could clarify your comments on this issue. 1) Do you think it would improve the article if we drop all the dates for the Big Three in the info Box? Or are you suggesting some other change? 2) Like it or not, we currently have a sentence in the lead which says, "The Soviet Union, which initially had a nonaggression pact with Germany and participated in its invasion of Poland, joined the Allies in June 1941, after the German invasion of the Soviet Union." Do you think this sentence could be improved in any way? Thanks. [[User:Aemilius Adolphin|Aemilius Adolphin]] ([[User talk:Aemilius Adolphin|talk]]) 22:46, 24 April 2023 (UTC) :I think the page works as is, and have seen nothing that makes it better. At best removing the dates doe not make it any worse. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 11:38, 25 April 2023 (UTC) == Please review article == Please review article [[Battle of Akora Khattak]] which is completely based off of this source here [https://archive.org/details/HistoryOfTheSikhsVol.VTheSikhLionOfLahoremaharajaRanjitSingh/page/n173/mode/2up], page 161. And it clearly shows that the battle was actually a Sikh victory and false result has been added into the infobox, the lead section and battle section. There are bunch of other sources on the article but they all fail verification due to lack of inline citation and page numbers. Seems like other sources are fake and deliberately added to give more strength to the article. Please review. Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/199.82.243.92|199.82.243.92]] ([[User talk:199.82.243.92|talk]]) 17:28, 29 April 2023 (UTC) :FYI: [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/HaughtonBrit]]. [[User:Abecedare|Abecedare]] ([[User talk:Abecedare|talk]]) 20:13, 30 April 2023 (UTC) == Maybe about time to stop editing Hinduism related topics? == I saw your edits, and duly respect them(credit should be given wherever due) but your edits on Hinduism seem too much influenced by western scholars, many of whom, are alleged to have subjective bias(Won't take names). Highly encourage you to know more about Hinduism in general and shift to maybe a more (liberal)neutral stance. Please leave a message on my talk page if you want to communicate more.(Don't perceive me as a hypocrite though) Regards, [[User:Science nerd11112007|Science nerd11112007]] ([[User talk:Science nerd11112007|talk]]) 07:42, 30 April 2023 (UTC) :{{u|Science nerd11112007}} You cannot request that a user refrain from editing about a particular topic, especially for nationalistic/geographic reasons. This is a global project that incorporates information from the entire world, not just the area that the topic originates from or is related to. Perhaps you could broaden your knowledge a bit from looking at information from other areas to counteract your own personal biases(we all have biases). As Wikipedia summarizes what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] state about topics, it isn't required for someone to be an expert in the topic or to use sources only from a particular area. If you wish to challenge the reliability of any particular source, that is done at the [[WP:RSN|reliable sources noticeboard]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 07:47, 30 April 2023 (UTC) :I would furthermore note(apologies to Slatersteven) that a source being biased does not preclude its use on Wikipedia, unless the allegation is that there is, for example, so much bias that the source is inventing things out of whole cloth(making things up without basis). [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 07:58, 30 April 2023 (UTC) :Yes, they are influenced by uninvolved third-party RS, per policy. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 10:00, 30 April 2023 (UTC) == A barnstar for you! == {| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;" |rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Original Barnstar Hires.png|100px]] |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Original Barnstar''' |- |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | For being ahead of the game with [[Special:Diff/1139902275|tagging]] [[Mary Baker Eddy]] as relying too much on primary sources more than 2 months before [[Talk:Mary Baker Eddy#Is it accurate to say that this article is overreliant on church literature?|this controversy came out]]. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times, times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Talk'''‐]]^{[[User:MJL/P|☖]]}</span> 18:29, 2 May 2023 (UTC) |} == Evidence and documentation for the Holocaust == I undid your revert in this article, because I agree with the IP that there is no obvious connection between the linked text and the link target. By all means point our the error of my ways! What did I miss? [[User:Nick Levine|Nick Levine]] ([[User talk:Nick Levine|talk]]) 17:45, 5 May 2023 (UTC) :Well the text says "Wide protest was evoked when Hitler's authorisation of the T4 program became public knowledge in Germany" it links to a section about "While the Nazi extermination of Jewish people took place primarily on Polish territory, the murder of people with disabilities (viewed by the Nazi regime as "invalid" individuals) became public knowledge because it took place on German soil and interfered directly in Catholic and Protestant welfare institutions. Church leaders who opposed it – chiefly Bishop Galen and Theophil Wurm, the Lutheran Bishop of Württemberg – were able to rouse widespread public opposition." so seems to me about the same thing. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 17:49, 5 May 2023 (UTC) :Also you did not undo it, the IP did. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 17:50, 5 May 2023 (UTC) ::I was about to remove the link, but got an edit conflict. Upon clicking the link, the connection isn't obvious and the reader needs to read to understand what's going on. It's confusing. The cardinal isn't even mentioned in this article. [[User:TarkusAB|<span style="color: #000000">'''TarkusAB'''</span>]]^{[[User talk:TarkusAB|<span style="color: #aa0000">'''talk'''</span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/TarkusAB|<span style="color: #aa0000">'''contrib'''</span>]]} 18:02, 5 May 2023 (UTC) :::This should have been discussed per [[wp:brd]], not edit warred back out. 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[[User:Cable10291|Cable10291]] ([[User talk:Cable10291|talk]]) 07:38, 12 May 2023 (UTC) :I considered just reverting this outright as a courtesy to Slatersteven, but since it isn't my talk page, I'll just drop a note. You have a lot of nerve badgering an editor with a decade of experience to your - checks notes - um, 18 months with 202 edits. We're all just regular users, there's no hierarchy here. But snarkily "reminding" someone with far more experience than you of deletion guidelines is uncalled-for. I suggest you refrain form this in the future. [[User:Zaathras|Zaathras]] ([[User talk:Zaathras|talk]]) 00:24, 14 May 2023 (UTC) == List of states with nuclear weapons == I'm not getting into an edit war with you. If you want to talk about HOW to integrate the fact of nuclear weapons being in Cuba from September to November of 1962 into the article, I'm open to criticism. But I'm not OK with denial. 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[[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 14:43, 28 May 2023 (UTC) == Contentious topic alert == [[File:Commons-emblem-notice.svg|link=|25px|alt=Information icon]] You have recently made edits related to gender-related disputes or controversies or people associated with them. This is a standard message to inform you that gender-related disputes or controversies or people associated with them is a designated contentious topic. This message <em>does <strong>not</strong> imply that there are any issues with your editing</em>. Contentious topics are the successor to the former discretionary sanctions system, which you may be aware of. For more information about the contentious topics system, please see [[Wikipedia:Contentious topics]]. 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We go by what RS say [[https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Survivors_of_the_Holocaust_in_Poland/GIujK0VqWGIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Holocaust+in+Poland%5D&printsec=frontcover]] [[https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/The_Holocaust_in_Poland/ZVGIswEACAAJ?hl=en]]. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 12:03, 30 May 2023 (UTC) ::[https://www.google.pl/books/edition/Night_Without_End/DJl8EAAAQBAJ?hl=pl&gbpv=1&dq=the+holocaust+in+occupied+poland&printsec=frontcover&bshm=ncc/1,ncc/1] [https://www.google.pl/books/edition/The_Holocaust_in_Occupied_Poland/QPOruAAACAAJ?hl=pl&bshm=ncc/1,ncc/1] [https://www.google.pl/books/edition/Guide_to_the_Sources_on_the_Holocaust_in/9qkGtAEACAAJ?hl=pl&bshm=ncc/1] [[User:KrzysztofPoplawski|Krzysztof Popławski]] ([[User talk:KrzysztofPoplawski|talk]]) 12:16, 30 May 2023 (UTC) ::[[War crimes in occupied Poland during World War II]] - is there Poland or Occupied Poland ? [[User:KrzysztofPoplawski|Krzysztof Popławski]] ([[User talk:KrzysztofPoplawski|talk]]) 12:17, 30 May 2023 (UTC) ::https://doi.org/10.1177/0888325411408072 [[User:KrzysztofPoplawski|Krzysztof Popławski]] ([[User talk:KrzysztofPoplawski|talk]]) 12:21, 30 May 2023 (UTC) ::I read whole discussion about article title and the only argument for is naming convention, but what about true ? The consistency for You is better than true? [[User:KrzysztofPoplawski|Krzysztof Popławski]] ([[User talk:KrzysztofPoplawski|talk]]) 12:47, 30 May 2023 (UTC) ::Yes we go by policies, and "truth" is often not, after all if there was no Poland there was no occupied Poland (as it did not exist, can you point to it on the above map?). So we go by what RS say, not how we see things. As to why that other article exists, you would need to ask there. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 15:14, 30 May 2023 (UTC) ::But one reason may be because there may not be any other pages on any other nations, thus there is no NPOV conflict with singling Poland out for special status. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 15:16, 30 May 2023 (UTC) :::Do you realize that there was a point where there was no Third Republic of France nor Fourth Republic, merely German-occupied territory? Yours seems like a novel interpretation that accepts the Germans' imposition of their worldview on other countries? what if I declare this user page to be mine and mine only? Would Slatersteven exist? See my point? [[User:Elinruby|Elinruby]] ([[User talk:Elinruby|talk]]) 02:48, 16 June 2023 (UTC) ::::Yes, which is why we go by what RS say, not OR. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 11:47, 16 June 2023 (UTC) :::::Please do point me to some.RS that say that Warsaw for example was not a Polish city in World War 2. I am aware that the Nazis disagreed but do not care about their opinion and don't think that Wikipedia should either. [[User:Elinruby|Elinruby]] ([[User talk:Elinruby|talk]]) 06:44, 18 June 2023 (UTC) ===your recent revert at Warsaw Ghetto=== "not an improvement" is a bit vague. I see there was a typo, are we talking about that? Or do you object to the change in sentence structure? [[User:Elinruby|Elinruby]] ([[User talk:Elinruby|talk]]) 16:40, 4 June 2023 (UTC) :Its clear enough I did not think it improved the text. The typo made it worse than the original. It is fine as it is. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 16:43, 4 June 2023 (UTC) No not really. If you don't like "put to the torch" then fine, but "burning'' could mean anything on up to "scorched", "smudged", OR "covered in ash but still livable". I strongly suggest changing it to "burned down" instead do at least convey the scale. I think "put to the torch" better conveys its systematic military nature, but fine. Can we at last make it burned *down*? :So could put to the torch. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 17:17, 4 June 2023 (UTC) :::not sure whether you are arguing with me or agreeing with me. If the latter would you please make that change then? Thanks. [[User:Elinruby|Elinruby]] ([[User talk:Elinruby|talk]]) 17:24, 4 June 2023 (UTC) ::::I am saying I do not think it needs changing and your edit made it no clearer. To me it is clear that what we are saying is burn the ghetto down. It is not unclear or unambiguous. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 17:33, 4 June 2023 (UTC) ::::::well apparently that's what you think it says, and I am pretty sure that this is also the intended meaning here. But I am also pretty sure that the additional detail that this was "block by block" means that this was not just any minor house fire. Now if I double-check again and I see 'burned down" then fine, I will be happy, and if not I will add it, fair enough? [[User:Elinruby|Elinruby]] ([[User talk:Elinruby|talk]]) 17:49, 4 June 2023 (UTC) ::::::::As blowimg up was also invoved, lets keep it vaugue. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 17:55, 4 June 2023 (UTC) :::::::::ok now that is a point. But in my world "burned" and "burned down" don't mean the same thing. Anyway. I will ponder if there is a better word than encompasses explosions. "Attacked with flame throwers" would also work for me, for example. [[User:Elinruby|Elinruby]] ([[User talk:Elinruby|talk]]) 18:37, 4 June 2023 (UTC) == Consensus Bakhmut == Regarding your edit here [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Bakhmut&diff=prev&oldid=1158534853]. You are saying I need consensus to write according to the four sources cited right next to the sentence, confirming the city's capture by May 21st, while you do not need consensus for the sentence you wrote, based on your personal interpretation of that one source, which doesn't even say what you wrote? Guess logic and neutrality are really gone on Wikipedia since the start of the Ukraine war, thanks for reminding me why I generally have given up on it. Have it your way, cheers! [[User:EkoGraf|EkoGraf]] ([[User talk:EkoGraf|talk]]) 20:02, 4 June 2023 (UTC) :Yes, as others have already argued against it (and see the RFC, they still are). As I pointed out, there are sources that disagree. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 11:17, 5 June 2023 (UTC) ::The RFC is whether the battle is over, not if the city has been captured or not, there is a big difference between the two. And the only source that disagrees is the Ukrainian military (as a belligerent not reliable) which claims, mind you, to hold an "insignificant" part in the city's southwestern outskirts, which is also already noted in the infobox. While even Ukrainian sources such as the Kyiv independent, beside a multitude of RS outlets, confirm the city has been captured. An ongoing battle and a city captured are not the same. In any case, writing its only Russia that is claiming the capture of the city, while the cited RS outlets are confirming in their own capacity the city's capture, is a missrepresantation of the cited sources however you want to put it. [[User:EkoGraf|EkoGraf]] ([[User talk:EkoGraf|talk]]) 15:23, 5 June 2023 (UTC) :::If the battle is not over it has not been captured. So let's wait until the battle is over, we are not a live news feed. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 15:26, 5 June 2023 (UTC) ::::You seem to be missundarstanding the main point of contention at the article's talk page. The battle does not include just the capture of the city, but the fighting around the city as well. And as far as I have seen at the RFC, nobody is actually denying the capture of the city. In fact, a number of editors who are saying at the RFC the battle is ongoing are actually acknowledging the city's capture. And the main argument of those who are saying the battle is not over is that clashes continue outside the city, despite its capture. By your logic, the battle did not start August 1st 2022, when the Russian offensive through the nearby villages started, but when they actually penetrated into the city, which was much later. [[User:EkoGraf|EkoGraf]] ([[User talk:EkoGraf|talk]]) 15:33, 5 June 2023 (UTC) :::::But like I said, if you want to misrepresent what RS are saying (haven't seen one RS denying the city's capture), go right ahead. Not going to argue further. [[User:EkoGraf|EkoGraf]] ([[User talk:EkoGraf|talk]]) 15:35, 5 June 2023 (UTC) :::By the way, the place to make these points is the RFC, as any closer is not going to be looking at my talk page. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 15:28, 5 June 2023 (UTC) == Dispute resolution Elections in Cuba == == Notice of Dispute resolution noticeboard discussion == [[File:Peacedove.svg|60px|left]] This message is being sent to let you know of a discussion at the [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard]] regarding a content dispute discussion you may have participated in. Content disputes can hold up article development and make editing difficult. You are not required to participate, but you are both invited and encouraged to help this dispute come to a resolution. Please join us to help form a consensus. Thank you! {{clear}}<!--Template:DRN-notice-->[[User:Bart Terpstra|Bart Terpstra]] ([[User talk:Bart Terpstra|talk]]) 11:51, 6 June 2023 (UTC) :Which one? [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 14:17, 6 June 2023 (UTC) :::The one about Elections in Cuba. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 00:56, 8 June 2023 (UTC) ::It has been pointed out to me that the wizard has inserted it in a closed discussion about Iran, i have no idea to proceed, i'm opening a ticket on the helpdesk. [[User:Bart Terpstra|Bart Terpstra]] ([[User talk:Bart Terpstra|talk]]) 14:24, 6 June 2023 (UTC) :::I tried to fix it, but its too much work. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 14:27, 6 June 2023 (UTC) ::::it has been fixed by someone else, you can now contribute. 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I wouldn't mind hatting our discussion from where it started to go off the rails. In the meantime, there is no need to jump all over me for perfectly appropriate actions. Thanks. [[User:Adoring nanny|Adoring nanny]] ([[User talk:Adoring nanny|talk]]) 15:35, 11 June 2023 (UTC) :I did not "jump all over you" until you took the discussion into forum territory. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 15:38, 11 June 2023 (UTC) ::Well, maybe. I think the portion you were objecting to was brief and mild, but I've struck it for the sake of decorum, and hatted the part that was getting nuts. I hope this works for you. 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When I was a new editor, I felt so much urgency about every dispute. Today, only one situation required an immediate response, and this wasn't it. If the discussion goes wrong please flag me down. If I can ever be helpful... [[User:BusterD|BusterD]] ([[User talk:BusterD|talk]]) 20:55, 12 July 2023 (UTC) :I assumed it was something like that. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 09:38, 13 July 2023 (UTC) == Reply to your comment: == I am replying to your comments. A favorite quote of mine: '''The difference between a discussion and a debate is that a debate has a "Winner". A discussion is different, because each person leaves the conversation with additional knowledge giving them a better informed opinion.''' You might be aware there is a lot of edit warring over topics involving South Asia, with many passionate users with strong opinions. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Contentious_topics/India,_Pakistan,_and_Afghanistan]. From an afD, I found a really facinating article about temples in India, added sourced information that seems extremely neutral, but it was immediately yanked by someone for being biased. I wanted to think through it by discussing, and posted on Tea to get recommendation on who to talk it through with and... "I'm pretty sure there isn't a cabal to erase this person's life off Wikipedia." And it was dismissive. That was the point, to hand waive the problem away and say "it's actually not a problem at all, you're paranoid!". Yet, It's such a big issue it was a topic of the Arbitration committee! I've decided to let it wait, educate myself more on the topic, and approach it at a future date. With the "Groomer" issue: We have one side using the slur groomer "along with ambiguous messaging to characterize LGBT people as pedophiles." Obviously, the point is to smear the opponent. They say the don't mean pedophile then turn around and use the term. Their opponents respond to them by hand waiving it and saying "oh it's just a conspiracy theory like QANON". Both of these positions are political positions. Neither position is a neutral, unbiased position. We need to find a title that is neutral. [[WP:NPOV]] Neutral Point of View is a pillar of Wikipedia: '''Wikipedia "describes disputes, but does not engage in them."''' Hence, I am attempting to find common ground and would appreciate you approaching discussion with that goal in mind. [[User:Denaar|Denaar]] ([[User talk:Denaar|talk]]) 17:38, 13 July 2023 (UTC) :No the conspiracy part is the idea that they have allies who are = supporting efforts trying to turn children gay, per what RS say. Groomer has a lot of uses (including as an insult) and thus is a separate topic form the conspiracy theory about LGBT people, as well as their allies and progressives in general, of systematically using LGBT sex education and campaigns for LGBT rights as a method of child grooming and enabling pedophilia. That is not the use of a word. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 17:44, 13 July 2023 (UTC) :And [[wp:agf]]. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 17:44, 13 July 2023 (UTC) == Talk:LGBT grooming conspiracy theory == Apologies, I appreciate the revert as it was purely accidental. Good catch. Cheers. [[User:Darknipples|DN]] ([[User talk:Darknipples|talk]]) 19:11, 13 July 2023 (UTC) :We all do it sometimes. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 19:14, 13 July 2023 (UTC) == QAnon == In the past couple of weeks or so there has been a persistent series of drive-by edits from IPs expressing various QAnon talking points at that article, and related articles like [[Adrenochrome]]. I suspect there's an active QAnon forum pushing people this way. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">[[User:Acroterion|<span style="color: black;">Acroterion</span>]] <small>[[User talk:Acroterion|<span style="color: gray;">(talk)</span>]]</small></span>''' 12:25, 14 July 2023 (UTC) :it gives me something to keep me off the streets. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 12:35, 14 July 2023 (UTC) ::That's part of The Plan. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">[[User:Acroterion|<span style="color: black;">Acroterion</span>]] <small>[[User talk:Acroterion|<span style="color: gray;">(talk)</span>]]</small></span>''' 12:40, 14 July 2023 (UTC) ::It's apparently fallout from [[Sound of Freedom (film)]]. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">[[User:Acroterion|<span style="color: black;">Acroterion</span>]] <small>[[User talk:Acroterion|<span style="color: gray;">(talk)</span>]]</small></span>''' 16:15, 16 July 2023 (UTC) :::Which is one thing that will not keep me off the streets. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 16:18, 16 July 2023 (UTC) == Siege of Charleston == No, my apologises. The Siege of Charleston was not a disaster for the Americans. [[User:Thegreatcool|Thegreatcool]] ([[User talk:Thegreatcool|talk]]) 16:52, 15 July 2023 (UTC) :We need RS to say it was. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 16:57, 15 July 2023 (UTC) ::Alright. [[User:Thegreatcool|Thegreatcool]] ([[User talk:Thegreatcool|talk]]) 16:58, 15 July 2023 (UTC) == What motivates you to do what you do? == The complete nonsense you talked about Huw Edwards isn't the first time I've seen you genuinely act as if the world begins and ends at Wikipedia. Literally every single source out there reflects what actually happened, why the Sun ran that story. The parents wanted their son to stop allegedly buying crack cocaine. Huw Edwards was allegedly funding his habit. This is all reliably sourced, impeccably so. The BLP and RS objections are complete garbage, the usual wikilawyering games. If not plain incompetence. The reason why Wikipedia wants to reflect only half the story is clear to all who know the basics. Wikipedia is biased. Because it is made by people like you, and the people who are theoretically meant to stop you, the Black Kites, are even more biased. It doesn't take long for anyone to realize this. You must think people are complete tools if you disagree. You surely cannot be unaware that is people like you, probably you specifically in a very big way, who are the reason Wikipedia's brand value is falling among young people. They don't recommend Wikipedia because it is so screamingly obviously riven with an agenda. People are getting fired at the WMF because donations are down. Eventually you might not have a website to get whatever it is you get from talking complete nonsense. Wouldn't that be the own goal of all own goals? [[User:SlatedForDestruction|SlatedForDestruction]] ([[User talk:SlatedForDestruction|talk]]) 17:59, 17 July 2023 (UTC) :I am unaware I have said anything about Huw Edwards, care to link to it? [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 18:08, 17 July 2023 (UTC) :Which will never be provided as they have been blocked as a [[wp:sock]]. [[User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven#top|talk]]) 18:12, 17 July 2023 (UTC) ::I almost wish SFR and BK had not reverted them just for the lulz. But blocked for socking, yes, absolutely. [[User:Xan747|Xan747]] ([[User talk:Xan747|talk]]) 20:28, 17 July 2023 (UTC) ==Dispute resolution== == Notice of Dispute resolution noticeboard discussion == [[File:Peacedove.svg|60px|left]] This message is being sent to let you know of a discussion at the [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard]] regarding a content dispute discussion you may have participated in. Content disputes can hold up article development and make editing difficult. You are not required to participate, but you are both invited and encouraged to help this dispute come to a resolution. Please join us to help form a consensus. Thank you! {{clear}}<!--Template:DRN-notice--> [[User:Elinruby|Elinruby]] ([[User talk:Elinruby|talk]]) 20:42, 17 July 2023 (UTC) == Toast! == {| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;" |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:An image of a toast sandwich, shot from the side.jpg|120px]] |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | I just wanted to say thank you for dealing with the recent "concerns" being raised. I have avoided getting involved in the current discussion at GAG etc because I think you are handling it well. You're exhibiting a zen-like patience and admirable demeanor. Cheers! [[User:Darknipples|DN]] ([[User talk:Darknipples|talk]]) 16:25, 18 July 2023 (UTC) |} == Contentious topic notification == {{ivmbox | image = Commons-emblem-notice.svg |imagesize=50px | bg = #E5F8FF | text = You have recently edited a page related to '''Eastern Europe or the Balkans''', a topic designated as '''[[WP:AC/CT|contentious]]'''. 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