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Alfred Worden

Alfred Worden died in his sleep last night (per his Twitter). I'll probably spend some time on the article, just letting you know in case you can make time to help get it ready for recent deaths. Kees08 (Talk) 16:38, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, that's. a shame. I'll look at the article too.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:45, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
PS, this is a great video on astronaut shenanigans. Kees08 (Talk) 18:35, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Scott talks about this one in his memoirs ... I'd like to know if only six copies were made, how did it get onto YouTube?--Wehwalt (talk) 18:41, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Question that may or may not be up your alley

Hi Wehwalt,

When I think "coins" I think Wehwalt. I have no idea whether this is something you know a lot about or not (your coin FA's seem to be U.S. coins, so probably not), but there's a coinage-related question at Wikipedia:Main_Page/Errors#Tomorrow's POTD (although it might be at Wikipedia:Main_Page/Errors#Today's_POTD by the time you read this. I've guessed the best I can, based on Thaler#Later German thalers. If you have any insight to add, it would be appreciated. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:29, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I've responded there.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:28, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, I've followed the advice from the two of you. --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:56, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Great work

I don't believe we've interacted before, Wehwalt, (forgive me if I don't recall) but I just happened on your userpage. I thought I should let you know how impressive your FA contributions are! Kudos and thank you. Ergo Sum 04:46, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think I've reviewed a couple of your Georgetown articles at FAC. Excellent work! And thanks for the kind words.--Wehwalt (talk) 06:33, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Introduction to viruses TFA

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For going the extra mile to reschedule Wikipedia:Today's featured article/March 27, 2020 to Introduction to viruses. Thanks for the effort! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:10, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Thank you for pushing it along.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:24, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

John Diefenbaker

Ah, I see where I was confused as to what was being said. Although I question why this is relevant. It's a fact simply because it takes the dates, which are otherwise not relevant, in order to make it a fact. I certainly don't see why it's important enough for the lede. Lexicon (talk) 21:50, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That he was the only leader to win in just about a half century? Seems a distinction. Thanks for letting me know.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:16, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Not even twenty-seven years. What happened after he left office would be attributable to the relative weakness of the party or its leaders and has nothing to do with his accomplishments (this article is about Diefenbaker, after all, not the Tories or Canadian federal elections). Furthermore, it's worded "to lead the party to an election victory" instead of "to be prime minister" so as to give five extra years to that span of time (the time Bennett was PM, when obviously no one could have been expected to lead the party to a victory). In short, it's worded in such a way as to create an accomplishment, not to document one. And that's not what an encyclopedia should be doing. Lexicon (talk) 00:21, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – April 2020

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WikiProject Numismatics newsletter - April 2020

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Issue XII

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The Big Maple Leaf (BML) is a set of six $1 million (CAD) gold coins each weighing 100 kilograms (220 lb) (3,215 troy ounces). They were produced by the Royal Canadian Mint (RCM) in 2007, at their Ottawa facility where the first BML produced remains in storage. As of March 2017, the market value of a single Big Maple Leaf had reached approximately $4 million (USD). On 27 March 2017, one of the coins was stolen from a Berlin museum. (Full article...)

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San Francisco–Oakland Bay Bridge half dollar

The San Francisco–Oakland Bay Bridge half dollar is a fifty-cent piece struck by the United States Bureau of the Mint in 1936 as a commemorative coin. One of many commemoratives issued that year, it was designed by Jacques Schnier and honors the opening of the Bay Bridge that November. One side of the coin depicts a grizzly bear, a symbol of California, and the other shows the San Francisco–Oakland Bay Bridge, with the Ferry Building. Congress passed authorizing legislation for the coin in 1936. Schnier's models were approved and the coins were struck at the San Francisco Mint. Just over 70,000 coins were sold, by mail, in person, and from booths at the Bay Bridge's approaches, making it the first commemorative coin to be sold on a drive-in basis. The coins were taken off sale in February 1937, with the unsold remainder returned to the Mint for redemption and melting. The Bay Bridge half dollar catalogs in the low hundreds of dollars, depending on condition. (Full article...)

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OTRS inquiry

Three issues come to mind:

  1. Another OTRS agent is technically the owner of this ticket. I don’t imagine they will mind if I offer to step in, but I need to have that conversation. I don’t anticipate any problem
  2. I trust you are aware that information in an OTRS is treated as confidential, so I have to be careful about how I ask questions of you. I’ll start with asking whether that ticket was initiated by you, or someone else, and you simply happen to be aware of it.
  3. The main issue is that the OTRS community has a well-established process for dealing with individual images, but a much less defined process for dealing with groups of images. This may sound odd, so I’ll try to explain. A permission statement typically identifies the specific images covered by the license. It is commonly one image, but it can include multiple images, with each image specifically identified. In those cases, processing is straightforward. The problem arises when some attempts to provide a group permission statement, covering, for all examples, all images created by person X, or all images contained on a particular website. Both are tricky. In the second case, what if images are added after the date of the license? Are they automatically covered? Or do we need a permalink to the site as of a particular date? I started exploring these issues when I was more active in permissions, but did not reach a satisfactory resolution. The community may has addressed this but I need to check. While I start that process, can you give me a sense of how many images are in play? You did say “a significant gift of numismatic images” so my guess is that we are talking hundreds rather than dozens. If it is “merely” dozens, and the significance is the quality and rareness, then the straightforward solution is to individually list the images. If the count is higher, we need to talk about the best way to uniquely identify the images in a way that will be unchanged over time.--S Philbrick(Talk) 22:36, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I solicited the donor. There had been comments made about the poor quality of numismatic images. The idea is to be able to get coin images without asking permission each time. I'm aware of the contents of what they sent and I agree it is broad. That is the idea. They don't mind us using their images (with proper credit) but we can't go asking every time we need an image. If you need to limit it to the date they sent it in, I understand that, but I think the donative intent is abundantly clear.
As an alternative, the donor has previously allowed the use of images. Those were solicited by Godot13, who is no longer active, but who was the one who acted on that permission, but if the ticket, 2015012110018886, is still active and available to be used by any editor, that could also be done. I don't know what it says, but it might not breach confidentiality if you were to advise whether it is available for editors to download coin images and other numismatic items (coin ephemera, cases, that sort of thing).--Wehwalt (talk) 22:53, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Wehwalt, Thanks that's helpful. S Philbrick(Talk) 00:02, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sphilbrick, thank you for that. I have obtained an very large gift of images for Wikipedia, something that goes way beyond coins, because you can what a variety of items are illustrated. I would like to see, at the end of this, all of those images available as a resource for our editors without having to go back and ask permission over and over again. The second email from the donor both accomplishes this, and was with the intent to address the specific concern of the OTRS volunteer, doing so by using the form from the webpage. That's done, by the book. It frankly grates at me that you would suggest designating a couple of dozen images and going back to the donor for specific permission. It's quite possible I'm frustrated because of the current worldwide situation that has me stuck at home, but I will say bluntly that either help me finish landing this fish or don't interfere with my efforts to. There is a willing donor and grateful people poised to accept. OTRS should pass this and feel good about it. Thanks for your efforts in this regard.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:32, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Wehwalt, Please don't let that suggestion grate you, because that's not at all what I suggested. Remember AGF. S Philbrick(Talk) 11:10, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sphilbrick, that looks unnecessarily inflammatory to me. Would you mind striking the second sentence?--Wehwalt (talk) 11:55, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Wehwalt, Huh? Happy to after you strike " It frankly grates at me that you would suggest..." I want to work with you, and don't appreciate being sniped at. Handling this will frankly be a LOT of work, and I'm willing to do it, but don't need the sniping. S Philbrick(Talk) 11:58, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Wehwalt, To Clarify:
IF there are only a couple dozen images, the easiest option is to simply list them.
IF NOT we need to design a new process, which I'm willing to do, but only if needed. That why I wanted clarification on the number. I never suggested "designating a couple of dozen images and going back to the donor for specific permission." S Philbrick(Talk) 12:01, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
What about the 2015 permission, which was used by Godot13 over a period of years without any of this rigamarole? If that permission is available, we will use it. In fact the donor suggested the possibility yesterday.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:16, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Wehwalt, There's a lot to do, and I haven't yet looked at that. S Philbrick(Talk) 12:24, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sphilbrick, I'll give it some thought, but my impression is the best course of action is to wait for a response on the donation from the OTRS volunteer who is handling it, and possibly for the time being should continue to. Alternatively, we will simply begin using the 2015 permission and if we're out of bounds, I guess someone will delete them. Although I don't see why anyone would, they didn't delete them when Godot13 used them. In the meantime, the great good use that Wikipedians could use from images of the many and varied objects sold by Heritage Auctions over the years will have to wait.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:35, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Wehwalt, I am the OTRS volunteer who is handling it. Someone else started, but when I checked with them, they didn't recall that it was assigned to them, so they weren't doing anything.
I looked at the 2015 permission. It is technically non-compliant, but I will chat with other agents to see if the technical problems can be overlooked, or if other action is needed. S Philbrick(Talk) 12:48, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
King of Hearts, You were involved. I'll send you an email, but your input is solicited. S Philbrick(Talk) 13:25, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I just sent an email. S Philbrick(Talk) 13:50, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As you wish. Keep in mind we have a donor ready willing and able to cure such deficiencies. At this point, we'll just wait to hear from you via email then, though I may proceed with some uploads under the 2015 license.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:57, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wehwalt, I am very interested in making this work, but there are many moving parts. S Philbrick(Talk) 13:26, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Very well, I'll wait and see then. Thank you for your efforts to make this work.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:07, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sphilbrick, if there is a concern as to the rate images might be uploaded and might need checking by OTRS, I do not believe that would be the case. I do not think anyone will do any mass uploads. There might be initial enthusiasm, but I expect it would soon peter out to actual article needs, and I doubt it will impose a burden on OTRS personnel.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:37, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Wehwalt, That's not an issue as far as I know, but thanks for sharing that. I conversed with an OTRS admin, who has a proposed step forward, and I plan to try start implementing it today. I will share more details soon. S Philbrick(Talk) 11:23, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Wehwalt, Here's the issue: specifying a website to identify images is not an adequately defined description. One very obvious problem is that the website will change over time. Some images may be removed, making it difficult in the future to investigate any questions about whether an image is covered or not. Images might be added, and it may not be the intention of the website owner that all new images are covered. Even if that is the case, a critical aspect of a permission statement is the affirmation that the person providing the license is the copyright holder of the image, and while we can assume they checked all current images, there's no guarantee that all images added in the future will be copyrighted by the license.
The solution is to take a snapshot of the website at a point in time, save that snapshot in Internet Archive, and craft the permission statement to refer to the images in that snapshot.
I'm happy to create the internet Archive snapshot, and to write up the wording for the permission statement but I'm not sure how to identify the relevant pages easily. I've glanced at the website, and hoped there would be a single page, or a well-defined series of pages containing the relevant images, so that those pages could be captured. My hope is that you are more familiar with the website, and may be able to help me identify the pages in question. S Philbrick(Talk) 12:16, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Wehwalt, I'm also happy to converse with the copyright holder about this, but thought i would check with you first. S Philbrick(Talk) 12:55, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sphilbrick Can it be defined in terms of the categories on the site, of which coins is only one?--Wehwalt (talk) 13:27, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Wehwalt, I think so, but I'm still trying to figure out where all the images are housed. S Philbrick(Talk) 13:29, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Wehwalt, I have to run out for a couple hour project, but will continue this afternoon. S Philbrick(Talk) 13:30, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Technical information is probably above my pay grade.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:07, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
(sorry for butting in) Seems easier for them to update their Website Use Agreement to reflect how they want to license the images. Though they may not want to do that if they intend to dual-license it via their website terms (NC use not allowed) and per whatever terms are desired for Commons. Just another option. Kees08 (Talk) 00:24, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
(sorry for butting in, pt. 2) The way I would do it if I owned the website and wanted to release only the images of auctioned items under a specific license, and not images such as auctioneers, auction advertisements, etc, is add a little box under the auctioned items images saying what the license is. Real small, grey font, so it doesn't interfere with the auctioneering process itself. I know this puts work on their side, but it would greatly simplify the process overall and make the agreement clear for all. Understood if you or them are not interested, just wanted to suggest it if it had not been thought of. Kees08 (Talk) 15:14, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sphilbrick Any views on that? Or any update? We seem to be getting bogged down.--Wehwalt (talk) 08:00, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wehwalt, I conferred with OTRS admins, who supported my suggestion that the relevant pages be saved as snapshots in Internet Archive and then a permission statement crafted to refer to those snapshots. I wrote this up and sent it in as a proposal to the website owner, including a commitment to writing the permission statement, so they simply had to send it in. I sent that two days ago, but have not heard back.
That said, I like @Kees08: suggestion, and will follow up and propose it as an alternate option. S Philbrick(Talk) 11:15, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Seems simplest for everyone. Another semi-related point to this is noting that they are licensing the photograph and other elements of the image may be copyrighted, such as certain 3D images or stamps. I assume we all know that, but just wanted to make a note. :) Kees08 (Talk) 16:44, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sphilbrick, the donor says he hasn't gotten the email based on what Kees08 said. He did get your earlier email but I told him to await this one.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:17, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Can I make a suggestion? What if I asked them to change their image terms and conditions to say that the images are released under a suitable license when used on Wikipedia?--Wehwalt (talk) 15:26, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Wehwalt, I can resend, but I was also going to suggest that changing the terms on the page, as suggested by you and Kees08, may be the easier solution. As Kees08 points out, it can be in tiny type and a gray font, so it barely intrudes, but as long as it is readable, it should suffice. S Philbrick(Talk) 15:55, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Does it have to be on each page or can it be on a policy page such as deals with image matters?--Wehwalt (talk) 15:58, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
(sorry for butting in, pt 3) It could be on a policy page, but then they would be releasing every image on their site, which would include any advertisements, images of their auctioneers, etc. I would imagine they only want to release images of the auctioned items, and if that's the case, the clearest way to do that is to include a notice under the items in each page. This should be achievable without editing every page, for the sake of explanation it is kind of like transcluding on Wikipedia. An edit to one 'template' will make your browser show that notice. My concern with changing their entire image policy is that they later realize they did not want to do that and revert it. That concern could be unfounded however, just trying to say how I would do it if it was my site. PS if you want me to stop butting in just let me know :). Kees08 (Talk) 17:09, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
What I am proposing is that they add to their image policy "Images of items on this website that have been offered for sale by Heritage Auctions shall carry a CC-BY-SA-4.0 license when uploaded to a Wikimedia Foundation site and require the following credit line 'Courtesy of Heritage Auctions (or whatever they want)'."--Wehwalt (talk) 17:51, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No, please don't stop butting in, by the way.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:57, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I think wording like that would work fine, though I will default to Sphilbrick on if it is acceptable. Kees08 (Talk) 18:44, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I will put either or both up to him, depending on what Sphilbrick says.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:04, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sphilbrick is the language I propose suitable? I'd like to nail this down before going back to the donor.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:56, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Wehwalt, Yes, I think it is acceptable. S Philbrick(Talk) 00:12, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Wehwalt, I take it as obvious (although past experience tells me that sometimes the obvious needs to be spelled out) that the site owner cannot license images that they are not the copyrightholder of, so the implication is that the site owner is the copyrightholder of all the coin images on their site. S Philbrick(Talk) 00:17, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Statue of Liberty / "tradition of hope and welcome"

Not sourced in the body or the lede: maybe U're right . . but the Statue's role as icon of this tradition is probably the most important single point about it.

At the moment, any (eg) Indian or African reader wanting to follow up on a mention of the Statue, would be likely to give up reading having learned nothing except tht it's big, it's French, it's in New York, and (what s/he already knew) there seems to be tremendous fuss about it (but not why).

The omission makes u wonder why there isn't a section on the Statue's cultural significance / role in popular culture, alongside all the art history and engineering (!) - until u realise how hard it would be to even know where to start on writing one!

In the earlier discussion about this Smallbones suggested some sources . . U clearly have a good grasp of the article . . Do U fancy seeing what U can do? - not, I mean, writing a whole section (unless U want to tackle that!): but an add-on, with source(s), to somewhere appropriate in the body, tht can then be picked up where it's most needed, in the lede?

-- SquisherDa (talk) 16:18, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you can find some sources, I can do some writing. Immigrants weren't always welcomed in the US, so the phrasing should be careful.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:32, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
According to Smallbones, his idea was simply to Google "statue of liberty welcoming immigrants" and work down the list. Though probably not to the end of it. The suggestions he came back with were these (the comments are his):


Careful phrasing: ain't that the truth! To a significant extent, the Statue is iconic of a myth rather than a reality - yep, huddled masses, do a spell on Ellis Island and then carry right on huddling in this here Big Apple. As a Brit, I wouldn't feel likely to get the right touch without very thorough study.

SquisherDa (talk) 17:05, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, all that is very helpful. I've added some based on the NPS page. I will add something to the lede.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:30, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User: TheEpistle

I want to beecome an editor and review pages, but how do I go about it, seems complicated, please help me. TheEpistle

I would leave your comments on talk pages and see what people think. Learn from that and ask for advice like you are doing.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:19, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Apollo 13

I just saw tomorrow's TFA. What a fantastic article. I know more people worked on it, but kudos (and thanks) to you and Kees08. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:49, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Much obliged. It needed doing.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:27, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No doubt your assembly is great. However I think your compromise reached on expressing starkly the program lost public interest, on all but the most generous reading, is still is a sort of slightly lazy journalism, I certainly understand that implication holds some water, but forgive the direct analogy, it would rather vaporise into the vacuum when put under any sort of pressure. It won't stand the test of time. I'm not going to bother to fix it (involving finding material to cite) as the nuance/connotation is only a tad too strong; most articles of similar profile are full of far worse examples. But know you this, public interest had waned but certainly was not needing this sort of 'renewal' as your article says. (Or the article as I don't think you are defending it out of your work but out of wp policy (hateful to my mind) mantra of Revert first then maybe find a fairer/better/nicer wording together), the space program at large was still in a very strong place, the shuttle program funding, Hubble etc still all being very successful. If we are going to use a neat, non-digressive shorthand then 'renewed' is not the verb one should choose. Billions doesn't lay itself on the science table without some degree of public consensus.- Adam37 Talk 09:05, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
My afterthought is one could always just say e.g. 'revived attention'. Most big newspapers were 'interested' in Apollo's discoveries and record-breaking let alone a huge contingent of the public who cared more about learning from space than fighting wars.- Adam37 Talk 09:13, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Cutting to the chase: Would "revived public interest" do the trick? I can only judge by the sources as I was still a bit too young to be actively interested in such things. Thank you for your persistence.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:44, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Issue 38, January – April 2020

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On behalf of The Wikipedia Library team --15:58, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
Eight years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:16, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Today, I remembered the precious one who lit the torch, and used the sunrise template, for an editor who did great things, annoyed some people, including an unnamed one, so did more great things under a different name. You know how that ends. Not without irony, the unnamed one was also blocked, for the same "crime". If I was an admin I'd probably unceremoniously unblock the principal editor of Nocturnes (Debussy). So good that I am not ;) - Different question: will you schedule March TFAs? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:07, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. Yes, I will be scheduling late this week. I haven't done the selections yet.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:09, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Fine, but could you perhaps give it a start, such as the first week? I remember criticising a former delegate for scheduling an hour in advance for Brian's Kathleen Ferrier. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:04, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Is there one in particular?--Wehwalt (talk) 11:25, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
no, just being able to prepare - I nominated one for 8 March (IWD), but the regular way per TFAR. I wonder about the proposed table (see nom), but believe while it's a good idea it should be a separate article, and the names (at least most) still in the FA. - Elsewhere, I'm more often told to word things in prose, rather than lists, tables, boxes. - I try to not interfer in the discussion. It's SusunW's first FA, and I wish my dear colleague and friend a smooth ride. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:18, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That's going to run. I am working on the list and I have to run it by the other coordinators so I will try to start scheduling on Wednesday.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:02, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Impact

Impact
Thank you for your impact
in creating articles of highest quality,
reviewing them constructively,
scheduling them in fairness,
and in what you stand for!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:50, 21 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you today for your part of Apollo 9, about "one of the more forgotten of the Apollo missions, but still an important stepping stone on the way to the Moon"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:35, 13 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you today for Bridgeport, Connecticut, Centennial half dollar, about "a coin with P.T. Barnum on its face, which given the troubled commemorative coin market of the 1930s has led to the obvious description of buyers of this and other issues as suckers, born every minute. Given the scarcity of coin collectors these days, the "born every minute" is probably not accurate, anyway"! - I have Günter Kehr on the same page, on his centenary.--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:43, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, sorry if I've been slow to respond, my laptop died.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:46, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, the slowness, - no laptop is worse. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:51, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you today for what you did for South Pacific, a "musical which was a cultural phenomenon in its time. It ran for years, and both was a reflection of its time and helped to change them, because it also made a strong, intentional point against racism. Perhaps Rodgers and Hammerstein, and the latter's co-writer, Joshua Logan, had more to say in this musical than they did at any other time. Its songs have become classic; the original cast album was the best-selling album to be released in the 1940s."!
You are welcome. My pleasure.--Wehwalt (talk) 07:15, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you - and all who helped - for Apollo 13, "about... the only Apollo mission people remember that isn't Apollo 11. The film cemented people's interest in this one, and they come here to find out what "really happened"."! - I have Willigis Jäger on the same page, an article I simply expanded because he recently died, and then two friend told me they studied with him, and two others knew him. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:35, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
... the resurrection of loving-kindness --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:42, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks and happy Easter.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:56, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you today for Hudson Sesquicentennial half dollar, about "another commemorative half dollar, but one that became controversial when the price was run up by coin dealers, as too often happened"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:26, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for that.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:02, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

White House Gift Shop

Hello! I've read about the White House Gift Shop's series of commemorative coins. The shop is privately owned and has sold a series of coins during Trump's administration, many of which have received at least a little press coverage. You might only be interested in "official" coinage, but I thought I'd put this radar in case you enjoyed writing a blurb about the memorial coin series. Either way, keep up the great work, and stay safe, ---Another Believer (Talk) 13:20, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Probably not, though I'll copyedit it if anyone else puts together something.--Wehwalt (talk) 06:02, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Operation Rösselsprung FAC

Hi Wehwalt, this FAC has been quite well patronised but I was hoping to see a review from someone outside the MilHist group (although not averse to military articles) -- do you think you'd have time soon-ish? Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 22:48, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine. I'll do it tomorrow.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:24, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ran it up the flagpole

Many years ago you told me that an article I had spent 2 years writing, which I didn't find at all easy to even understand, which I took to FAC was an attempt of me to "[run] it up the flagpole to see who saluted, and rather got a piano dropped on you". 12 years later, your words still sting. After what you wrote there, I gave up entirely worrying about FAC. Just so you know. - Chris.sherlock (talk) 13:20, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry. I don't recall the circumstances but I am sorry if it caused you pain.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:32, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. 12 years later, the USA PATRIOT Act article hasn’t really changed all that much, nor is it likely to. - Chris.sherlock (talk) 13:47, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If you want to take another shot at it, perhaps I can make amends.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:46, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Regine

Hi Wehwalt! Hope all is well! Been idle for couple years and hunkering down gave me time to trim down and work on sourcing (which was the issue at the last FAC). Not much has changed on prose and content. Your inputs have been valuable during PR and the last FAC. Trying my hand on bringing it back to FAC. Not sure if you're still around these days, but if you have the luxury of time, would appreciate your inputs at the FAC. Cheers! Pseud 14 (talk) 23:20, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good to see you back. Will look in on it.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:27, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Much appreciated! Cheers! Pseud 14 (talk) 17:32, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Space Shuttle FAC

Hello! I was wondering if you wouldn't mind taking a look at the Space Shuttle page and letting me know if you think it's ready to be nominated as a FAC. It was recently promoted to Good Article-status, and I'm hoping to continue its improvement. This would be my first FAC nomination, so I'm hoping to get some feedback from an experienced FA author. Thanks in advance! Balon Greyjoy (talk) 08:06, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sure.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:15, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I appreciate the help! Balon Greyjoy (talk) 13:13, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Decided to nominate it! Looking forward to your feedback! Balon Greyjoy (talk) 13:57, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I will get to it right after Regine just above. Good luck,--Wehwalt (talk) 15:20, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ejruw chacerot in Mahwah

Hi, two years ago you took a photo (uploaded later into the Commons as: Eruv_recall_the_mayor.jpg). After including this illustration in the article on pl:wiki (Szabat) I got from the reader a question which one wire rope is the "eruv" element? Are they run with these white tubes on a pole (and then horizontally)? Jacek555 (talk) 09:53, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That is my understanding. The white (now changed to black) PVC pipe with the electric wires deemed the top.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:07, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I see. I understood that it is certain that the picture shows the eruv border. Do they run horizontally? After all, it should be a border line. So why should it run vertically along the pole? Do you know? Jacek555 (talk) 17:57, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it is the border of the eruv, though it is sometimes referred to as the eruv. My understanding is that the eruv border is a wall with a series of doorframes that take up virtually all of the length. Without posts, there could not be a frame (with the utility wires running it sideways) and thus it wouldn't be a wall, with the fictional wall being what allows the activities within its enclosure. But I am not Orthodox, and thus have never really dealt with eruvim, other than my inspection of the one I photographed in connection with the article about the controversy it caused. It has motivated me to look at telephone poles more closely. But any site about them could explain it better than I do.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:22, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Thanks! Jacek555 (talk) 20:42, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Article Review

Hi Wehwalt,

To continue the conversation started on @Montanabw:'s talk page, the article I created is Cornwall Electric. It's about one of Canada's oldest electric companies and it's one of my first articles. There is a book that was commissioned in 1987 for its 100-year anniversary that I would like to consult before declaring the article done, but so far because of the COVID-19 pandemic, I have been unable to reach the local library to see if they have it. I hope you enjoy reading the article, I thank you for your kind offer, and I look forward to your feedback! WILDSTAR talk 00:29, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I will look at it as soon as I can.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:45, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

May

May · Mary · Monteverdi

Thank you for article improvements in May! - DYK our list of people for whose life I'm thankful enough to improve their articles? - I have a FAC open, one of Monteverdi's exceptional works, in memory of Brian who passed me his collected sources. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:23, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. I will look at it but it may have to wait until after I schedule.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:45, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for good comments. - today a composer pictured who wrote a triple concerto for violin, harp and double bass, in honour of the composer who died and my brother who plays double bass. He was one of the two opening the Ring in Minden, DYK. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:39, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for scheduling June TFAs! - I just came across a FA, SOLRAD 1, which would be good June 22, - too late? Then perhaps keep in mind for 22 September? - I somehow missed that it appeared already. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:12, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for those. I hope we get more articles on satellites and early space missions.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:37, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Your ears must ring a bit, Neopeius, - how about making the next number a FA? - Thank you for your excellent review of today's little DYK Liebster Jesu, wir sind hier! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:50, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm working on LES-2 as we speak. I've done a lot of soul-searching regarding FAs. I'm proud of the two I've done, but I feel like the community may be better served with more GA and B-class articles, especially since there are SO MANY satellites to cover. :) And it was my pleasure, Gerda. You're awesome. By the way, you may enjoy this, a show we're doing next Saturday: [The Journey Show] --Neopeius (talk) 01:27, 30 May 2020 (UTC) Gerda Arendt --Neopeius (talk) 02:49, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The Minute Man

Hi Wetwalt. I think I addressed all of your comments. Please let me know if there is something I missed --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 02:15, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

History of the British farthing scheduled for TFA

This is to let you know that the History of the British farthing article has been scheduled as today's featured article for July 10, 2020... Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:39, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hint

Believe it or not, I was already planning to do it this afternoon! Not many periodicals come through FAC and I figured I should give it a shot and having just put up another FAC I need to get some more reviews done. Should be today some time. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 19:30, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Much obliged!--Wehwalt (talk) 19:45, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

The Minute Man
Thank you for your assistance with getting The Minute Man to featured article status. I could not have done it without your help. --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 16:38, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations! Glad to help.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:49, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Could you help me with my article Laura Harrier?

It's a Good Article and a current Featured Article nominee. It's been reviewed and edited significantly and three editors told me to look for other editors to review it. Here's the featured article page: Laura Harrier FAC. Please help. Thanks. Factfanatic1 (talk) 07:21, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have time right this instant but if it hangs around FAC I will look at it.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:50, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Factfanatic1 (talk) 17:15, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations from the Military History Project

 The Military history A-Class medal 
On behalf of the Military History Project, I am proud to present the A-Class medal for Ernest Augustus I of Hanover, David Scott, and Alfred Worden. Peacemaker67 (talk) via MilHistBot (talk) 00:30, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Congrats on your first Milhist A-Class Medal, Wehwalt! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:56, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I appreciate it very much. And thank you for all the work you do.--Wehwalt (talk) 06:00, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Editor's Barnstar
The work you have done on the Wikipedia biography of Muhammad Ali Jinnah over the years, including its maintenance, is commendable. Please accept this barnstar as a token of appreciation. Regards, Mar4d (talk) 16:29, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. You've done a lot too.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:59, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Goff, Baron Goff of Chieveley

Hi Wehwalt, I hope you are keeping well. I'm reviewing the above at FAC. Do you happen to know if there's an accepted citation template for UK, as opposed to US, legal cases? As you'd expect with an article on a law lord, there are quite a few legal cases referenced but not in a standardised and consistent way. It would be helpful if I could point the first-time nominator, who's produced a grand piece of work, to a single template but having looked, I can only find the US style one. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 05:25, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I will look at it. I'm well and trust you are too.--Wehwalt (talk) 07:00, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, good thanks. And thanks for taking a look. KJP1 (talk) 07:42, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Recent edit

Apologies for the revert on Woodes Rogers, I wasn't sure what the offending article was in question. Eastfarthingan (talk) 18:38, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine. Sorry if I offended you by my own revert. Take care, it's been a while since I reviewed the sources but there's a Spanish version of events and an English one, and they are not the same. I forget which source discusses that.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:55, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes well aware. no problem. Eastfarthingan (talk) 19:03, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – July 2020

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WikiProject Numismatics newsletter - July 2020

The WikiProject Numismatics newsletter
Issue XIII

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Article of the Month
A £5 note forged by the Jewish Sachsenhausen concentration camp prisoners

Operation Bernhard was an exercise by Nazi Germany to forge British bank notes. The initial plan was to drop the notes over Britain to bring about a collapse of the British economy during the Second World War. The first phase was run from early 1940 by the Sicherheitsdienst (SD) under the title Unternehmen Andreas (Operation Andreas, Operation Andrew). The unit successfully duplicated the rag paper used by the British, produced near-identical engraving blocks and deduced the algorithm used to create the alpha-numeric serial code on each note. The unit closed in early 1942 after its head, Alfred Naujocks, fell out of favour with his superior officer, Reinhard Heydrich.

The operation was revived later in the year; the aim was changed to forging money to finance German intelligence operations. Instead of a specialist unit within the SD, prisoners from Nazi concentration camps were selected and sent to Sachsenhausen concentration camp to work under SS Major Bernhard Krüger. The unit produced British notes until mid-1945; estimates vary of the number and value of notes printed, from £132.6 million up to £300 million. By the time the unit ceased production, they had perfected the artwork for US dollars, although the paper and serial numbers were still being analysed. The counterfeit money was laundered in exchange for money and other assets. Counterfeit notes from the operation were used to pay the Turkish agent Elyesa Bazna—code named Cicero—for his work in obtaining British secrets from the British ambassador in Ankara, and £100,000 from Operation Bernhard was used to obtain information that helped to free the Italian leader Benito Mussolini in the Gran Sasso raid in September 1943.

In early 1945 the unit was moved to Mauthausen-Gusen concentration camp in Austria, then to the Redl-Zipf series of tunnels and finally to Ebensee concentration camp. Because of an overly precise interpretation of a German order, the prisoners were not executed on their arrival; they were liberated shortly afterwards by the American Army. Much of the output of the unit was dumped into the Toplitz and Grundlsee lakes at the end of the war, but enough went into general circulation that the Bank of England stopped releasing new notes and issued a new design after the war. The operation has been dramatised in a comedy-drama miniseries Private Schulz by the BBC and in a 2007 film, The Counterfeiters (Die Fälscher). (Full article...)

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Today's Featured Article April 29

Obverse of the Hudson Sesquicentennial half dollar

The Hudson Sesquicentennial half dollar is a fifty-cent piece struck by the United States Bureau of the Mint in 1935 as a commemorative coin. The coin was designed by Chester Beach. Its obverse depicts the Half Moon, flagship of Henry Hudson, after whom the city of Hudson is named. In addition to showing the ship, the coin displays a version of the Hudson city seal, with Neptune riding a whale, a design that has drawn commentary. Although the city of Hudson was a relatively small municipality, legislation to issue a coin in honor of its 150th anniversary went through Congress without opposition and was signed by President Franklin D. Roosevelt, becoming the Act of May 2, 1935. Most of the coins were likely bought by coin dealers, leaving few for collectors, with the result that prices spiked from the $1 cost at the time of issue. This caused collector anger, but did not lower the coin's value, which has continued to increase in the 80-plus years since it was struck. (Full article...)

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B. Max Mehl

Just stubbed, in case you're interested; I saw one of his ads on the back of an old pulp magazine and found enough about him in Google Books to lead me to think he was notable. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 20:33, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I will. I can probably come up with some images.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:17, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ping

Hi Wehwalt, did you get my ping? Thanks! — WILDSTARtalk 15:04, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing, sorry. Can you link me to whatever discussion?--Wehwalt (talk) 15:13, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, you did the Cornwall Electric article. I'll take another look at it.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:21, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

June

June
Vespro della Beata Vergine

Thank you for improving articles in June. I can proudly present a FA, quite a gift after a year without, thank you for your comments, and a FL is in the making, comments welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:43, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you today for History of the British farthing, about "a coin small in value but still a source of interest today"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:02, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:01, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Administrators' newsletter – August 2020

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Thank you in July

July
pale globe-thistle above the Rhine

Thank you for improving articles in July! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:13, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A good day in August: today, Monteverdi's operas became a featured topic! ... exactly 10 years after both Brian and I were declared awesome ;) - the list to appear as TFL on 21 Aug. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:20, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A memorial to him.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:40, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That's the idea. Next the 1 Sep nomination on the Vespers for which he kindly passed me his collection of sources, which I regard as the highest honour. I should have known it was a legacy when he faced that what he could do was limited, as it is for all of us, in a way. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:32, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

FAC Mentoring?

Hi Wehwalt, I've noticed your monumental contributions to WP and your great username for a while now and was wondering if you would considering mentoring me for my hopefully first FAC. The article I've been working on is Cai Lun and at the moment it's up for GAN so we would have to probably wait until someone picked it up before pursuing the FAC – or perhaps I should just withdraw the nomination, not sure. Anyways, I noticed this lengthy discussion on WT:FAC about diversity and I wasn't sure how to feel about it other than just try to "do my part". I had already expanded Cai Lun quite a bit and was not necessarily planning for FAC but this motivated me to in a weird sort of way. Anyways, there's many things about the article I'm uncertain about since information on Cai Lun's life is so sketchy and the sources I found (other than a single biography) were mostly encyclopedic entries or entries in the beginnings of books about the origins of paper. If you would be interested in assisting I would greatly appreciate it, and if not then I completely understand, we all have our own (self imposed I suppose) obligations/plans here and I wouldn't want to get in the way of yours. Best - Aza24 (talk) 08:57, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the kind words. I will look at the article. I don't know a great deal about the subject matter but we will see what we will see.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:15, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for being willing to take a look. The WP:FAM list didn't really have anyone with a background in Chinese history and the closest was Iry-Hor who said they would be able to "help in Ancient History" but I saw your name and since I'm familiar with your work I thought I'd reach out. Hopefully you'll find the article an interesting read, there's virtually no where else on the internet (that I'm aware of) with as much information on him. Aza24 (talk) 21:50, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Aza24, I will be looking at this not later than tomorrow. I just need to finish up current work.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:28, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you - but no rush at all, take your time. Aza24 (talk) 00:17, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Illustrated Daily News scheduled for TFA

This is to let you know that Illustrated Daily News has been scheduled as WP:TFA for 17 August 2020. Please check that the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/August 17, 2020. Thanks! Ealdgyth (talk) 13:56, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

August
Sunflowers in Walsdorf

Thank you for the article about "a Los Angeles newspaper with a colorful history"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:25, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You are very welcome. Although it was mostly written 10 years ago.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:44, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Doen't matter at all. It's lovely when content stays that long. 1 September is a day with a TFA req, remember. You wording skills may help for the penultimate sentence, which should express that he may have hoped to get a position in Rome, which didn'r succeed, but won in Venice, which - musically speaking - may have been even more attractive, - only say that in ten words ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:02, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The King & I - Notable Performers dispute

Ssilvers and Wehwalt: I have responded to the WP:Edit war accusation at The King and I's Talk page. -- Osnapitzjv (talk) 22:29, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

California Pacific International Exposition half dollar scheduled for TFA

This is to let you know that California Pacific International Exposition half dollar has been scheduled as WP:TFA for 24 August 2020. Please check that the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/August 24, 2020. Thanks! Ealdgyth (talk) 14:28, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats on the Main page appearance! ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:46, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I plan to get back to the coins soon.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:51, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just so you know

This (all seriousness aside). --Brogo13 (talk) 21:09, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for that. I think it reads better with the noun. Appreciate it--Wehwalt (talk) 21:17, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tips for Good Article?

Hi Wehwalt, we've never bumped up against each other, although we seem to be interested in similar articles, based on you popping up on lots of the articles I have on my watchlist. :) I'm working on an article and hope to bring it to good article status, but I've no idea what the process is. With all your plus marks and gold stars, I thought you might be the person to ask. Would you be willing to take a look at it and give me comments? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 00:56, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Of course. What is the article?--Wehwalt (talk) 11
59, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Best way to align?

IanRoweNWE (talk) 16:04, 27 August 2020 (UTC) Hi,[reply]

Hoping you can help and appreciate the back and forth so far.

As I am new I am wondering what is the best way to align on the 1868 death penalty rational/John A Macdonald article. It seems like edits back and forth maybe isn't it? Should I post more detail on the John A talk page?

I wrote a bunch of points I was hoping to get your help with but maybe cause of length Wikipedia wouldn't let me post. Not trying to start a thing, trying to learn wikipedia and gain alignment.

I would suggest starting a discussion on the article talk page, saying what you are trying to do and the evidence you have for it. A quotation from the book in question might be helpful. Welcome to Wikipedia.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:46, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

James Irwin : Featured Article ?

Hi,

I've seen on the page Adopt an astronaut that you would work to make James Irwin a Featured Article but you haven't edited it at all. Have you given up ?

Best regards,

Calvinsky (talk) 20:49, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am willing, but hesitant because I know so little about the religious aspects of his life. The astronaut part would not be a big problem.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:03, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yuri Gagarin

I hope you are doing well in these strange times. I have started a PR for Yuri Gagarin. I hope to get him through FAC before the 60th anniversary of his flight, 12 April. Please comment at Wikipedia:Peer review/Yuri Gagarin/archive1. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 22:53, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I'm doing well if home and bored. Hope you're doing well too. I will happily participate in the PR.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:12, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

August

August
Sunflowers in Walsdorf

Thank you for improving articles in August! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:36, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A first for me today: a featured list (= a featured topic in this case) on the Main page, see Wikipedia:Main Page history/2020 August 21, an initiative by Aza24 in memory of Brian. Also, thank you for scheduling! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:39, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you today for California Pacific International Exposition half dollar, about "a coin whose high mintage proved to be its undoing as relatively few sold. Unusually, the sponsors went back to Congress and got a second year of striking, but again, most wound up melted. Still, it's a beautiful design."! - Nice Main page today, - I have a chapel pictured under DYK, + 2 of the hooks I approved ;) - the chapel is one of the places I was "given" for my birthday, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:41, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DYK: Rhythm Is It! - I expanded that stub on my dad's birthday because we saw the film together back then, and were impressed. As a ref said: every educator should see it. Don't miss the trailer, for a starter. - A welcome chance to present yet another article by Brian on the Main page, Le Sacre du printemps. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:07, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that is always good. I will read the article on the Rhythm film.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:53, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – September 2020

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Mass message sender

I haven't had much time for Wikipedia in the last few months, so I've decided to stop posting the WikiProject Numismatics newsletter until things die down. Would you please remove my MMS user group? I have no use for it now. - ZLEA T\C 14:42, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to hear that. You've done a huge amount for WP:NUMISMATICS. I hope you're able to resume. I've done that. Let me know if you want that back.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:03, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I'm hoping that I can resume by next year. - ZLEA T\C 13:59, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Presidents and African Americans

Hi Wehwalt. I wanted to offer a suggestion regarding your content surrounding U.S. presidents and African Americans. You might want to consult Jones, Stephen A.; Freedman, Eric (2012). Presidents and Black America: A Documentary History. SAGE Publications. ISBN 9781608710089. Consider it as a starting point for related content. Mitchumch (talk) 03:24, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds very reasonable. Thank you.--Wehwalt (talk) 07:28, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of content pertaining to Richard Nixon's racism

The removal of the content is unjustified , please take a look at the talk page of the article , or add the information to a more relevant place, if you think that is necessary . However it's complete removal would be unnecessary censorship . What do you think ? Meethamonkey (talk) 07:32, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've now posted to the talk page. Thanks for your comments. I get that Nixon said a lot of things that would not pass muster in 2020 but I think there needs to be a showing that this was a major part of Nixon's career, and that Nixon played a major part in this. Nixon probably said derogatory things about other peoples as well, but if we set out all of them, we will have an even longer article that contains less and less a proportion of what Nixon actually did. Presidency of Richard Nixon might be a better place for it.--Wehwalt (talk) 07:35, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The solution to this problem is not to delete content. If that content is unbalanced, then a new article needs to be created. The reality is reliable sources do examine Nixon's record on racism. Wikipedia articles are not places to revere the subject. It is also not the place of editors to cherry pick reliable sources. Editors should summarize reliable sources. All of them. To omit content is to lie. Mitchumch (talk) 03:36, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think the Nixon article is terribly favorable to him. I'm pretty sure there was more in the article about his personal attitudes towards minorities than was once there, and it is hard to keep track of every edit though I try. The problem, over the years, has been to keep a balance. Nixon said a lot of negative stuff about a lot of people, but he also signed the bills for affirmative action, and supported court-ordered busing. But you may be right, a new article concerning Nixon's views on racial matters may be a solution.--Wehwalt (talk) 07:34, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Florin (British coin) scheduled for TFA

This is to let you know that the Florin (British coin) article has been scheduled as today's featured article for Wikipedia:Today's featured article/October 8, 2020...! Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:58, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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September

September
Dahlias in Walsdorf

I like today's Main page, with the TFA (thank you for your FAC comments, and scheduling!) on the anniversary day (of both dedication and our concert), a DYK, and a great photographer who didn't make it soon enough, Jürgen Schadeberg, - more on my talk, mostly about the tribute to Brian who shared his sources. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:45, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for The Bread-Winners, about "a rather dated book by John Hay, subject of my last nomination. Controversial as it presented a hostile view of organized labor, Hay prudently published the book anonymously, which led to quite a guessing game that is now entirely forgotten, but that was one of the literary events of 1883."

From tribute to tribute, now with loads of thanks to Jerome Kohl. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:24, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks, as always.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:47, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I looked a bit at the DYK proposal, 1789 Virginia's 5th congressional district election, - 2 minor points: I don't get what the "initial" before we even have an article title means, and why there's so much white space in the refs (which 20em per column could "cure"). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:33, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Is that better?--Wehwalt (talk) 23:50, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, thank you! - In contrast: matching colours music to the Dahlias, "brute loud and secretly quiet". - The music (specifically "Meermenschen") was given to me for my birthday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:20, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you today for Alfred Worden, about "the command module pilot of Apollo 15. That was only a small part of a life that included being a test pilot, scientist, engineer, businessman, and public speaker, promoting the space program and STEM education. His 88 years left us the richer; hopefully we do not squander what he has left us."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:42, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome. I see the DYK appeared last night. :).--Wehwalt (talk) 21:20, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, and well received. I have the pictured DYK right now, and am proud that's the third pic from my places (click on September). The annual pilgrimage to No. 1 happened today, and I'm determined to see No. 2 soon. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:51, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Cai Lun FA stuff

Wehwalt,

Thanks again for your copy editing, comments and sources you've found. I had delayed putting some of the information in the article since it begun a GA (and just recently finished). Looking ahead, I think I'm going to put it to the side for the moment, I'm not feeling super motivated to work on it further since I think I'm going to need to find some Chinese sources at some point...! That being said I think I'm going to take Portrait of a Musician to FAC soon since I have been working on it for a while and had assistance from quite a few users. I hope this message doesn't come off as awkward, I just wanted to let you know if case you see Portrait of a Musician at FAC and get confused why I didn't nominate Cai Lun first. When I do inevitably return to Cai, if you would be available again I would likely return for your guidance. Best, Aza24 (talk) 21:45, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, no problem. I will review Portrait when you do, and let me know when you want me to look over Cai again.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:10, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Question about the Philippines

Hi,

I've got a quick alternate history question about the Philippines for you: What do you think would have happened to the Philippines over the last 125 years had the Spanish-American War never actually occurred? For instance, do you believe that there would have eventually been a Spanish-Japanese war over the Philippines in such a scenario?

Best regards,

Futurist110 (talk) 22:01, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I find it hard to believe that Spain could have held on to the Philippines for long. With an independence movement, a decrepit fleet, and the vultures such as Germany gathering, they were ripe for the plucking.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:53, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Do you think that Germany or Japan (as in, which country out of these two?) would have been more likely to take the Philippines from Spain had the US not fought Spain in the Spanish-American War beforehand? Or would an independent Filipino state have been even likelier? Futurist110 (talk) 00:06, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I think that an independent state would not have long existed, since it would not have been respected by western powers. My thought would be Germany would be the one calling the shots.--Wehwalt (talk) 06:44, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
What makes you think that Germany was more likely than Japan? Due to Germany's more powerful navy--even in the Far East? Futurist110 (talk) 21:27, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
They had ships in the area even during the Spanish-American war. Japan wasn't that aggressive yet.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:53, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough; thank you! Also, do you think that, if World War I still breaks out in 1914 as in real life, Japan will then conquer the Philippines from Germany? Futurist110 (talk) 00:20, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hard to say. Depends how much effort Germany puts into defending the islands. Of course, that effort affects whether there is a war in 1914.--Wehwalt (talk) 06:25, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Why would a strong German defense in the Philippines have prevented World War I breaking out in 1914 other than due to the butterfly effect? Futurist110 (talk) 06:52, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Different military alignments could lead to different willingnesses to go to war. And the trouble the Filipinos would presumably give the Germans as they gave the Americans could lead to a more war-wary Germany.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:06, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough; thank you! (Though, FWIW, the US ultimately was willing to enter WWI after fighting the Filipinos for years in real life, but only after WWI was already going on for 2.5 years.) Futurist110 (talk) 00:30, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Images in FAs

Hi Wehwalt, I saw you removed my concern but it doesn't seem to have been addressed. Can I now assume FAs are eligible which contain no media at all? The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 14:49, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The community has never told us not to run articles that lack images, so I guess they're eligible. If you don't think articles that lack images should be promoted, that's a matter for WT:FAC. I don't know that anything can be done at WP:ERRORS, and it's probably not the best place, since we don't archive.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:53, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. I guess the point was that it failed to meet the FA criteria correctly so it should have been ineligible. But if that's changed, cool. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 15:11, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination too early

My apologies for requesting TFA for the Biblioteca Marciana too early. I later found the appropriate page ... I think.Venicescapes (talk) 15:18, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just transclude the page you created again when it is time.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:40, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Another question for you

Hi,

If you don't mind, I've got another question for you, if you don't mind: Which US Presidents (and their presidencies) other than William McKinley do you know a lot about?

Best regards,

Futurist110 (talk) 23:14, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A fair number. I think I have 10 presidential FAs either written or co-written. Tyler, Polk, Fillmore, A. Johnson, Garfield, McKinley, Taft, Harding, Truman and Nixon.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:17, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
What's an FA?
Also, a couple of counterfactual history questions about President Garfield: Do you believe that he would have won reelection in 1884 had he lived? In addition, do you think that he would have vetoed the Chinese Exclusion Act in any of its forms/variants had he lived? Futurist110 (talk) 19:37, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
WP:FA. I don't know of any reason why Garfield would have held out against a bill that had broad support. in Congress and among US citizens.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:06, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! As for Garfield, I don't know; I mean, some Republicans in the US Congress (9 out of 22 Republicans in the US Senate, for instance) did oppose the Chinese Exclusion Act--possibly due to their own moral convictions (in at least some of these cases). So, sometimes one's morality could cause one to take an unpopular stand. Of course, this would have actually required assuming that Garfield was morally opposed to restricting Chinese immigration in any form, and I'm unsure that we can actually reach this conclusion. That said, though, it's worth noting that Garfield's predecessor as US President, Rutherford B. Hayes, did in fact veto a Chinese Exclusion Act in 1879, but afterwards the Burlingame Treaty was concluded between the United States and Qing China and this treaty apparently allowed the US to restrict Chinese immigration for a reasonable period of time.
Also, what about my question in regards to a hypothetical Garfield reelection bid in 1884? Would it have been successful, in your honest opinion? Futurist110 (talk) 03:04, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hard to say given his lack of a track record. But the country was ripe for a change as the Republicans (counting 1864) had won six in a row. They barely won the last two. I'd lean against him winning in 1884.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:45, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
For what it's worth, though, even the corrupt James G. Blaine came within slightly more than 1,000 votes of winning in 1884 in real life, and he had to deal with the Mugwump defections--an issue that the more honest Garfield would likely not have had to deal with. Futurist110 (talk) 19:17, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Spiro Agnew "works"

If, as you wrote, "Rv, seems unnecessary, especially when he wrote other book(s)," why don't you just add other books and so increase knowledge, rather than delete the one book I found and decrease knowledge? - Aboudaqn (talk) 01:24, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What you seem to be adding are not "books" by the authors, but reprints of speeches and similar. I have doubts that these need to be mentioned, and certainly not alongside actual purpose-written original books for publication.--Wehwalt (talk) 06:20, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TFA pt. 1...

William Henry Harrison 1840 presidential campaign - blah, blah, running election day.. blah, blah... --Ealdgyth (talk) 19:00, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TFA part deux....

Sovereign (British coin) on Wikipedia:Today's featured article/November 17, 2020 --Ealdgyth (talk) 14:51, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Much obliged. We'll see how it does in the review process.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:04, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

October harvest

Dona nobis pacem

Thank you today for Florin (British coin), "a coin that was introduced as part of a decimal scheme and appropriately enough lived on the longest under decimal currency"! - Happy to see it together with Organ Symphony No. 3 (Vierne), the composer pictured on his 150th birthday. His biography is not yet where I want it, but much better than a week ago. It was played at one of my churches this summer, in the first concert there after the break. Organists can enjoy to be naturally "at a distance". The organ is pictured among "my places", - click on October, - we have thanksgiving first Sunday of that month, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:52, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:06, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
moar music, violin, - enchanting, said a critic about the recent Mendelssohn (my brother in the orchestra), - this video is older, and the YT in the article comes with a Bach encore, as she played for us 3 October. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:49, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
16 October memories - 8 years that we miss br'er --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:01, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Very much so.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:59, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Beautiful Main page today, don't miss the pic by a banned user (of a 2013 play critical of refugee politics), nor a related video, interviews in German, but music and scene. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:00, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Your thoughts

Hi Wehwalt, hope all is well. I'm not sure if you remember me-- we interacted a bit, and I found your comments and suggestions very helpful when I was starting out here several years ago. I've progressed quite a bit since then, but I seem to have hit a wall with my prose with O Captain! My Captain!. I was wondering if you could comment on the peer review I've opened up, with an eye towards a possible FAC. I'm at quite a loss for how to move the prose forward here. If time or interest doesn't allow, no worries. All the best, Eddie891 Talk Work 00:28, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. Good to see you again. I'll take a look at it, hopefully tomorrow. I'm familiar with the poem. I learned it in school.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:05, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

More thoughts

I really appreciate the helpful comments you provided on the John Neal (writer) FAN. If you have more of that energy to spare, I request your participation in the active peer review of an article I recently created for one of Neal's friends from Baltimore. It's much shorter than Neal's article, but I think it could go to GAN next. I just need more eyes to point out things that don't make sense, obvious gaps, etc. Coincidentally, Eddie891 just contributed to this review! Thanks in advance for your help. --Dugan Murphy (talk) 22:17, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I will try but it may not be immediate. I have Eddie's, and I'm trying to find time to improve John McGraw, and my having to select the TFAs for next month is looming on me.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:45, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Okidokie. If you do have the time I'll appreciate it. --Dugan Murphy (talk) 00:47, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sovereign 2020

Well done on the TFA for the Sovereign. I notice there are no photographs of the current coin. Would a front and reverse photo of the 2020 coin be of use for the article? If so I can arrange some but would need to know it was of use before making arrangements. Thanks. LordHarris 11:45, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. We could only use the George & Dragon side because the "head" side is still in copyright. See the discussion here. Obviously that one would be welcome, but we couldn't put it in the infobox as both sides should come from the same coin.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:52, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, the best shot I could manage is uploaded as [1] Thanks LordHarris 15:30, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you today for William Henry Harrison presidential campaign, 1840, about "the famous "Tippecanoe and Tyler too" campaign of 1840. The election may be quite old, but there are lessons in it that apply to today's politics"! May they be learned. Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:06, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I doubt they have, but thank you.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:55, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
look for bright memories --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:54, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you today for Sovereign (British coin) about one "of the world's longest-lived coins, which widely circulated over it in its time and is still popular as a bullion and collector's coin"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:16, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for article work in November! Look today at BB music, a little crusade of mine ;) - his birthday on St Cecilia's day, patron saint of music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:43, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Today's DYK: to be sung "happily" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:17, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Very nice, thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:34, 27 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

December blurbs

There are a couple of blurbs in the first half of the month I'd like to make some edits to, if that's okay. - Dank (push to talk) 14:19, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free, as always. No need to ask.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:03, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Koufax

Wehwalt, since you FA'd Babe Ruth, I was wondering if you might join the effort to salvage Sandy Koufax ... there's a list at article talk. He's 84 years old, so I think we should keep the article up to snuff, and it doesn't need too much work ... looks fairly decent for an FA last reviewed in 2007. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:25, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I will take a look at it but I am a bit behind right now.--Wehwalt (talk) 07:57, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago

Awesome
Ten years!

and today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:59, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A long time. Thank you.--Wehwalt (talk) 08:04, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm just the messenger, thank Neutralhomer. What do you think about the deletion nom, close and review of Template:Composer sidebar? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:44, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
But I don't think of it.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:10, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Fine, that's best. I also stopped ;) - Look at my talk today, birthday of a friend, - if you listen to the organ piece at the bottom of the top box you can see me in the far back (without head for most of the time that is) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:21, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK review

I am trying my hand at a DYK review and don't want to mess it up. I am doing this one Template:Did you know nominations/St. Michael, Kaubenheim. I was wondering if you had any advice on how to handle or whether I am doing it wrong. Remember (talk) 14:36, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am not an expert on DYK but I will keep an eye on it. Gerda will no doubt tell you if you're too far out of line.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:43, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, one of the reasons I chose that DYK was because I knew Gerda would be on top of things. Remember (talk) 14:55, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

History of the British penny (1901–1970) scheduled for TFA

On Wikipedia:Today's featured article/January 26, 2021... Jimfbleak - talk to me? 17:45, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Help with article

Wehwalt, it has been a long time since I have worked with you but you were always a big help on issues so I thought I would reach out again.

I created the article Ruth Williams Cupp. I am trying to get the article up to DYK status to be posted on December 16. I have a conflict of interest on the article though since I knew the subject and her family. I don't know if you have ever dealt with COI issues before but was just hoping to have all the issues cleaned up before the DYK date. If you have any advice or suggestions regarding the article, I would love to hear them. Remember (talk) 17:59, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It is good to hear from you. I don't see how just having known her is a COI. I will look at the article.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:15, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Remember (talk) 19:50, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think you can remove the COI tag? I don't know if it can be removed once another editor has reviewed the material. I have a posting on the Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard but there has been no response. I'm not sure what else to do. Remember (talk) 21:35, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

They retagged the article with a COI tag. Can you help on how to resolve? Remember (talk) 19:52, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Another couple of alternate history questions for you

If you don't mind, I've got another couple of alternate history questions for you:

1. If Charles Evans Hughes wins the US Presidency in 1916, do you think that he is going to insist on the abolition of the German and Austro-Hungarian monarchies just like Woodrow Wilson did in real life? Also, do you think that Hughes would have handled any aspect of World War I and/or its aftermath any differently in comparison to Wilson?

2. Do you think that FDR runs again for a third term in 1940 if the Fall of France doesn't actually occur--at least not in 1940?

Best regards,

Futurist110 (talk) 07:34, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to pass on the first one. I just don't know enough about Hughes and his views.
As for the second, I think FDR was running for a third term no matter what. His coyness was purely strategic. He despised his would-be Democratic successors such as Garner and Wallace, he wasn't going to go home to Hyde Park and twiddle his thumbs at age 58 after eight years of being the most powerful peacetime president in US history, but he also wasn't going to get in a pissing contest with his rivals, though primaries didn't count for much in 1940. And once the Republicans nominated Willkie, FDR was probably the only Democrat who could beat him. The Fall of France gave FDR a crisis to invoke if he wanted to, but I don't think it was a decider.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:53, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your response here. Also, another, off-topic question: By just how long do you think that immigration restrictionism in the United States (such as the 1921 Immigration Act and 1924 Immigration Act) would have been delayed had World War I been completely prevented? Futurist110 (talk) 18:55, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I think it happens soon after you get a severe recession. One way or another, America was filling up and the focus still would have been on more space for me and mine. When that would be, I don't know.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:53, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Well, recessions usually occur every 10-15 years in developed countries, no? Futurist110 (talk) 06:45, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, thus it would happen sooner or later. Labour wouldn't want their wages cut by immigrants.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:26, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
They were willing to have their wages cut by immigrants over the previous century, other than for both the Chinese and the Japanese. Futurist110 (talk) 23:01, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but by 1914 the labor movement is much more national than it used to be, and there is no longer a feeling that immigration is needed to fill labor needs on the frontier. And you don't have the fear of Eastern Europeans as Socialists or Communists, because no war, no Russian Revolution--Wehwalt (talk) 23:51, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Isn't your last sentence here actually favorable for the pro-immigrant cause, though? Futurist110 (talk) 00:16, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sure. I would expect the slowing of immigrant flow to be due to economic rather than ideological factors.--Wehwalt (talk) 08:24, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
But if the immigrant flow slows down due to economic factors, couldn't that weaken the argument in favor of additional formal laws restricting immigration? Futurist110 (talk) 20:02, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure it would work that way. After all, by this time the US is important enough to the world economy that if it has a recession, there is probably economic problems in Europe too, which would encourage emigration to America, where the streets are paved with gold and all that.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:18, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Travelling

I was going to correct "travelling" to "traveling" at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/December 14, 2020 and 1789 Virginia's 5th congressional district election, until I noticed you went out of your way to spell it that way. Do you know something I don't? Wiktionary:traveling#Alternative forms says "travelling (Commonwealth)", Google Ngrams confirms that "traveling" is the usual U.S. spelling, and the U.S. was independent in 1789. Art LaPella (talk) 05:31, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed it. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.--Wehwalt (talk) 07:04, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
December songs
3 of them
Anyway, thak you for 1789 Virginia's 5th congressional district election, "about a little known but important episode in US history. The article has, perhaps, not the most impressive of titles, but tells of the only congressional election in US history to feature two future presidents, James Madison and James Monroe. Madison was the victor of this battle fought one cold Virginia winter, and had he not been in Congress to use his influence to fight for the Bill of Rights, the key issue in this campaign, it might not have passed."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:36, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Much obliged. A little different than most articles.--Wehwalt (talk) 08:15, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for TFA rescheduling

The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
Thanks for going the extra distance to get both Introduction to viruses and immune system re-scheduled and re-featured at Today's featured article, to keep the main page featured content relevant to important worldwide issues! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:11, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Sandy, it means a lot, coming from you.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:10, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Beethoven 250 years

Beethoven in 1803

The birthday display! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:27, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request for input on move request

Hi, Wehwalt! Thank you again for your work on the John Neal (writer) FAN. I have initiated a move request to John Neal and it could use more input. Could you check it out if you have time? I thought I would ask given your familiarity with the article from the nomination process. --Dugan Murphy (talk) 18:49, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

All the best for the holidays!

Season's Greetings
Wishing everybody a Happy Holiday Season, and all best wishes for the New Year! Adoration of the Magi (Jan Mostaert) is my Wiki-Christmas card to all for this year. Johnbod (talk) 12:11, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Natalis soli invicto!

Natalis soli invicto!
Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and distraction-free. Ealdgyth (talk) 15:29, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year!


Walter Elmer Schofield, Across the River (1904), Carnegie Museum of Art. 		Best wishes for a safe, healthy and prosperous 2021.
Thank you for your contributions toward making Wikipedia a better and more accurate place.
BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 15:00, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oneupsmanship: This painting turned the friendly rivalry between Edward Redfield and Elmer Schofield into
a feud. Schofield was a frequent houseguest at Redfield's farm, upstream from New Hope, Pennsylvania,
and the two would go out painting together, competing to capture the better view. Redfield served on the jury
for the 1904 Annual Exhibition of the Carnegie Institute; at which, despite Redfield's opposition, Across the
River was awarded the Gold Medal and $1,500 prize. It was not until a 1963 interview that the 93-year-old
Redfield revealed the painting as the cause of the 40-year feud between them. Schofield may have painted it
in England, but a blindsided Redfield knew that it was a view of the Delaware River, from his own front yard!

Best wishes for the holidays

Season's Greetings
Seasons greetings. Hope you and yours are safe and well during this rather bleak period, though I think we will get through it. Best Ceoil (talk) 02:43, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request for FAC input

Hi Wehwalt, hope all is well. As you were kind enough to comment on my Peer Review, I was wondering if I could interest you in commenting at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/O Captain! My Captain!/archive1. I'm loathe to request favors, but it seems that nobody is very interested in giving it a review and the co-ords have suggested that it may be in danger of getting archived. Hope your holidays are pleasant and I wish you and yours all the best as we enter a new year. Eddie891 Talk Work 15:16, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I will get to it within a day or two.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:56, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hope for 2021

take courage

Thank you for improving article quality in December, and good wishes for a time of transition. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:29, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Have a good new year 2021! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:17, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"QPQ" discussion

Thanks for closing that. It started with patently false accusations and went downhill into some secret rabbit hole which wasn't useful at all. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:28, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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untitled

I don't understand the problem with the sentence I added to Horace Greeley. You write, "prev 01:29, 9 January 2021‎ Wehwalt talk contribs‎ 73,141 bytes −198‎ Partial rv, would rather have that from a secondary source undothank What is "rv"? You would rather have what from a secondary source? Maurice Magnus (talk) 18:43, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All the book shows is that it was published by a company whose name included his last name. I asked for a secondary source that showed his personal involvement. Since he was involved in the founding of the Republican Party, it is likely that he was personally involved, but citing a book whose publisher's name includes his doesn't prove that. WP:V.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:45, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Rv is Wikipedia shorthand for "revert" and it was partial because you made multiple edits and I only reverted one of them.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:39, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your explanation, with which I agree. I had read that authorship has been attributed to Greeley, but I can't find where I read that. That is why I wrote that Greeley "published," rather than "wrote," the campaign biography. Though literally true, I can see that that is misleading, because readers will assume that he wrote it. What I have done, therefore, is to put back what I'd written, but I added the sentence "The biography does not identify its author." I own the biography, so I know that to be the case. My contribution now reads: "In 1856, Greeley published a campaign biography for the first Republican presidential candidate, John Charles Frémont.[51] The biography does not identify its author." I hope that is satisfactory. In the Fremont article, I added a comparable footnote to the listing of the biography under "Primary Sources."Maurice Magnus (talk) 00:42, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Replacing "The biography does not identify its author" with "anonymously-authored" is a good edit; thank you. In the U.S., we do not use a hyphen in a double modifier where the adverb ends in "ly." (We also don't use it where the adverb is "very," as in "very good boy.") This is because, in these instances, no possibility of ambiguity exists. But I think that in England they might use the hyphen, so I will leave it alone, but feel free to delete it.Maurice Magnus (talk) 12:39, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Apollo 14

Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests has Apollo 14 as a pending item for Feb 5... do you have another date in mind? Ealdgyth (talk) 14:34, 20 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Feb 9? The date of return. If not, anytime in the first nine days if possible.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:51, 20 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Another alternate history question for you

Had Henry Clay won the US Presidency in 1844, do you think that both the US annexation of Texas and the US conquest of the Mexican Cession would have been completely prevented or merely delayed until another Democrat would have won the US Presidency? Futurist110 (talk) 04:15, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Wehwalt: Did you see my question here? Futurist110 (talk) 02:14, 13 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I've been real-life busy. Let me think about it.--Wehwalt (talk) 07:03, 13 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry to be so slow. Been busy. I think much the same would have happened, very likely under Clay. Those areas were far from Mexico City and close to the US, the population pressures too strong, and Clay was a flip-flopper on the subject. The discovery of gold might have been what did the trick. Mexico wasn't getting that gold.--Wehwalt (talk) 07:17, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Wehwalt: Please don't forget about my question here! Futurist110 (talk) 04:34, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
My point is that at the latest, the war would have (in my opinion) followed the discovery of gold in Calif.--Wehwalt (talk) 06:34, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The lack of a war would not have delayed the discovery, possibly even hastened it. There would have been no way the US would let Mexico keep the gold, and this would have happened under Clay (or Frelinghuysen if the troubles of office carried Clay off). Clay would not have taken a stand against the roars for war, given his inconsistent stands on the issue. Boundaries might not have been quite the same and Mexican grievances would have been greater, for all the good that would have done them.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:31, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Willie Mays

Hi! I just nominated Willie Mays for a peer review. During its recent featured article nomination, User:SandyGeorgia suggested it needed more work on the prose and mentioned that such a review could use the help of an experienced baseball editor like yourself. If you have time to take a look at it, your input would be greatly appreciated! Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 13:32, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly, as soon as I can. I remember watching him play, his final season.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:33, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Books & Bytes - Issue 42

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Promotion of Columbia, South Carolina, Sesquicentennial half dollar

Congratulations, Wehwalt! The article you nominated, Columbia, South Carolina, Sesquicentennial half dollar, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Gog the Mild (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:05, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Congrats! Thanks for your continued work on numismatics articles. ---Another Believer (Talk) 02:09, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Huey Long

Hi Wehwalt, I am currently trying to promote Huey Long to featured status - it's been through GA, a peer review, and a failed FAN. I noticed that you have done some work on similar subjects and would really appreciate if you give it a look-over. The guild of ce is about to look at the grammar, so I'm more concerned about the article's detail, cohesiveness, weight, etc. No worries if you're too busy - have a nice day! ~ HAL333

I will get to it when I can but it may not be at least for a few days.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:15, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

QAI

I tried to give 2021 a good start by updating the QAI project topics. Please check and correct, - did you know that you belong to project's few members from the beginning who are still active? For moar private "happy new year" see here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:13, 6 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I wish more of them were active. Happy New Year.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:39, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
So do I. - Happy Wikipedia 20, - proud of a little bit on the Main page today, and 5 years ago, and 10 years ago, look: create a new style - revive - complete! I sang in the revival mentioned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:42, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you today for History of the British penny (1901–1970), about "a coin that made pockets heavier than they are today, but nevertheless iconic for its portrayal of Britannia. This is about its final seventy years or so, including the great rarity of 1933."! - I have a FAC open, DYK? ... and perhaps you can answer some source qs --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:43, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
today: Jerome Kohl, remembered in friendship --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:41, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Query

Still ipad typing with post-surgery, trying to track maindates for URFA, I think Wikipedia:Today's featured article/February 5, 2021 is wrong? The TFA the day before is the tour, not the group? Sorry for brevity, may be errors elsewhere? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:46, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's a bit piecemeal this month as we are all helping out Ealdgyth, who is RL very busy, and it looks Feb 4 slipped through the process with the first link in the blurb something other than the article title, and the bot got confused. I don't see any other instances of that but will keep an eye on things. Thank you Sandy for catching that, good health and best wishes.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:09, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I sensed that was what was happening, glad you got it, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:12, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Doing my usual talk page cleanup to make articlehistory fixes on upcoming TFAs, I found several did not have maindates yet ... pinged you, but holding off on further articlehistory checks 'til you let me know if those are set ? Bst, SandyGeorgia (Talk)

I would just add them. Thanks for checking.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:03, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
SandyGeorgia, I've gone through the month and added them where they were absent.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:37, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations!

According to WP:WBFAN, the promotion of Columbia, South Carolina, Sesquicentennial half dollar marks your 200th successful FAC nomination. What an incredible body of work you have contributed to the encyclopaedia, ranging from coins to elections, from biographies to space missions, and presidential campaigns to novels. Thank you for all your efforts. Warm regards, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 22:42, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks. But the project isn't done yet. There's work to be done. You've done quite a bit of it yourself.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:48, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations, - I'm not much of a counter, but yes: quite a milestone! I remember #100, that seems not even long ago. - I could use help with my #13 to be, - imagine the recordings split off, to get rid of the longish sourcing discussion. (The most detailed resource, on which the article was built by the first authors in 2005, is not good enough for one critic to reference the recordings only, and each individual one backed up by another ref.) Perhaps look next week, - today I struggled to get Arik Brauer at least to DYK standard, - done - the little pleasures. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:02, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I will look at it but the last time I got involved in one of the Bach discussions, I didn't feel I had anything I could say to help resolve the disputes.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:07, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Well, no, no need to even read the discussion or add to it. One critic can't stand that source, the busy delegate said a last word, that's final (for me, not worth my time nor hers), but I'll take the recordings off the FA then, as we did before in BWV 4 when Brianboulton talked to the critic ("I have archived earlier, acrimonious debates on aspects of the article's content, in the hope that ... a more cooperative and collegial approach will be adopted in future discussions of possible amendments to the article."). - I just wanted to avoid that you'll spend time on the recordings which will change. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:19, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I will look at it after Huey Long above so you have a little bit of time.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:23, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:10, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting comment on Suzanne Lenglen FAC?

Hi Wehwalt, if you have the time, I was wondering if you could comment on the Suzanne Lenglen FAC? Specifically, some concerns were brought up about the overall length of the article. I tried to justify the length by comparing it to the Babe Ruth article that you wrote, which is much longer. I was wondering if you thought the overall length of the article was justified? Thanks! Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:05, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I will look at it when I have time.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:18, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

South Pacific

I think he's right about the date. The source that we cite is dated Feb.1, but the report within it was dated Jan.31 and says "last night", so Jan. 30. All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:05, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

TFA

February

Thank you today for Apollo 14, about "an Apollo mission perhaps most famous for featuring the second flight of Alan Shepard, and for Shepard sending two golf balls into flight. Yet much else went on, from a frustrated Stu Roosa trying again and again to dock two spacecraft to Ed Mitchell's ESP experiments."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:25, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

... and today for Grant Memorial coinage, about "two coins, the last commemoratives we have to deal with from the 1920s. The usual legacy of (relative) beauty and doubt about whether the money went to a good cause"! - Would you please take a look at BWV 1, where I think most concerns have been dealt with by now, so should be easy? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:39, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

TFAs

Hi Wehwalt, new TFA user; I was wondering where these other article that don't appear on WP:TFAR come from? I saw that 1080° Snowboarding is going to appear in late February, but I didn't see it appear on TFAR. Panini🥪 02:04, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The TFA coordinators select them. Ealdgyth, Jimfbleak and I take it in turn to fill out the schedule, rotating by month.--Wehwalt (talk) 07:28, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
And do you write the blurbs yourself? Panini🥪 13:42, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Some articles have blurbs already prepared from the time of promotion to FA, by Dank, Johnboddie and Gog the Mild. There are always some that need blurbs written, and the coordinators divide the labor of writing those, often according to one's interests. After the schedule is prepared for the upcoming month, we split up whatever needs to be done.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:42, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, okay. Thanks for answering! Panini🥪 14:55, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Happy to let people know.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:01, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
While this is up, I'm also curious how the women's poll tax repeal movement is practically double the blurb length than the others. Would it fit on the main page? Panini🥪 16:22, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I see now. It's simply the articles' lead, being used as a placeholder. Panini🥪 16:27, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Per the instructions here, we first insert a version of the lead section, then edit in the blurb.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:29, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Precious anniversary

Precious
Nine years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:25, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for that and the above.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:31, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Could you take another look at the FAC. It seems stable now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:42, 23 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

William McKinley

You reverted my changes to make the language neutral but without even a hint as to the reason. I've put it back and am reaching out to see if we can settle our differences here rather than via an edit war. Exactly which of my changes do you object to and why? Cutelyaware (talk) 08:18, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've altered the language somewhat. I don't think the sources justify that he started the war, but I see your point that "led the nation" may be a little bit overly patriotic, so I've stuck to the exact facts. I hope this is satisfactory. I also altered your language on what he did in the Civil War without attempting to change the meaning because I felt there was an implication that he was in the Army at the start of the war which was not the case.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:19, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That's much better. Regarding the Spanish American war, the fact is there was no war before his term, and the war began during his term, and it was a war of choice. That makes it his. It certainly didn't "just happen" to him, so it would be wrong to imply that it did. Cutelyaware (talk) 09:30, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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TFA - 25 March

Thank you for selecting the Biblioteca Marciana as TFA on 25 March. Since the library is an official institution of the Italian government, I asked in the nomination if there could be additional protection or heightened vigilance to prevent vandalic edits that are misleading, promotional, or vulgar. Do you know yet if that will be possible?Venicescapes (talk) 07:10, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. Protection of TFAs isn't my decision as a coordinator. I would suggest making a request at WP:RFPP.--Wehwalt (talk) 07:49, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Venicescapes, a similar practice of protection for all TFAs is currently being discussed. Aza24 (talk) 05:18, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Usually, many watch the TFA, and much vandalism is reverted by human beings ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:01, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Aza24 and Gerda Arendt, thank you for your input and for drawing my attention to the current discussion. I gave my support to the proposal. For the Marciana, I'll hope that the vandals are few. My worst fear is that the director of the library mentions it to someone at the Ministry in Rome who then sees the page with profanities and vandalic edits.Venicescapes (talk) 08:13, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Profanities rarely last long, - I remember that a Bach cantata - or Reger Requiem perhaps - had something about sex in the afternoon, but only for minutes. Worse are changes to years which are hard detect as wrong. But we'll watch! - DYK that you helped me to some extra time, because it's the day for BWV 1, which now can simmer slowly until next year, instead of getting nervous this year. I heard Bach cantata BWV 159 today: great music, to be expanded! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:18, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Venicescapes, given that you seem to be rather worried about this, perhaps looking at the revision history for my TFA from a few days ago will ease your concerns. As you can see, almost every vandal edit was reverted with in 5 minutes or less, and really obvious ones usually in less than a minute. A lot of people watch TFA (as Gerda said) and I will be sure to keep an extra eye on yours. Also, the discussion I linked above is certainly looking like it is on it's way to pass, so I wouldn't be surprised if a pending changes protection for TFA is installed by the 25th. Aza24 (talk) 00:31, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've wondered at times ....

... at least about the first part. [2]. IJS :-) — Ched (talk) 12:00, 6 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It may be swimming against the tide, but I feel that articles don't need that Procrustean opening that is being forced on so many of them. As for Nixon being a lawyer, he did argue before the Supreme Court and win the case, so he had some talent in that regard.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:06, 6 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

John Richard Clark Hall

Hey there Wehwalt, thought I'd drop a line and see if you might have any interest in taking a look at this article, which is currently at FAC; it's just passed three weeks without a full review, hence the reaching out. He's a lot more interesting of a subject than merely a lawyer who wrote an article on sanitary legislation, I promise hope! But by all means, no worries if you're tied up (or disagree with my assessment of interestingness). Cheers, --Usernameunique (talk) 06:02, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:33, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Wehwalt—appreciate it. --Usernameunique (talk) 05:26, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Multihat!

Hi,

I made this request last year, and would like to express my appreciation for the most excellent compromise you came up with last month. Would you mind applying the same format to Andrew Jackson's hats? :)

- 2A02:560:422F:F100:807F:517D:8AA5:49B7 (talk) 11:53, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's done. It was based on a hat that used to be on Albert Speer. You learn stuff over time.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:17, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Old Spanish Trail half dollar scheduled for TFA

This is to let you know that the Old Spanish Trail half dollar article has been scheduled as today's featured article for April 5, 2021... Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:44, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
Here's a barnstar for your terrific work. This project is indebted to contributors like yourself. ~ HAL333 02:55, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Much obliged.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:33, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ruth Cupp

I was thinking of nominating Ruth Cupp for a Featured Article and wanted to get your thoughts on that before I did it in case you think there is anything I should do before I nominate it. The article recently got awarded good article status. Remember (talk) 16:16, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Remember, I think any issues with the article are going to come from two directions: first, the relative sketchiness of parts of the article, and second, the fact that a good portion of the content derives from Cupp herself. I don't know how much you can do to remedy that, since I assume you've gone through all available sources. I'd nominate it and see. What's the worst that can happen?--Wehwalt (talk) 12:48, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think you're right. Just wanted to make sure that there wasn't something I was missing or some type of etiquette I was breaching by nominating it so soon. Thanks for the insights! Remember (talk) 13:47, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Astronaut biographies

Would you be willing to drop by Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Lisa Nowak/archive1 and provide an opinion on the lead sentence and WP:ROLEBIO? Hawkeye7 (discuss) 23:57, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Books & Bytes – Issue 42

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March flowers

Thank you for scheduling Carmen for today, with Bizet's music "expressing the emotions and suffering of his characters" as Brian worded it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:08, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you today for Warren G. Harding, about "one of the least regarded American presidents. Yet, a look at Harding's career indicates that there was a bit more there beyond the president who managed his cabinet with slack reins, allowing Teapot Dome and other scandals to occur"! - Carmen enjoyed around 35k views. This time, it had an infobox, while for the first run, Brian was reluctant to expose the then new feature on the Main page. Soon after, he used it himself, first for L'Arianna. - Will anybody be "uninvolved" enough to close the Fleming RfC? I looked at the archive, and found this treasure, - why didn't they just listen then? I miss him much, and used your phrase again on my talk "and those who have just given up", - emotions pictured in icicles. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:32, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

... and today for Lewis and Clark Exposition dollar, about "a fairly obscure gold commemorative, the only "two-headed" US coin, and about the preparation for which not much is known, due to lack of surviving records. Still, it's an interesting tale, featuring Farran Zerbe, numismatic promoter, who's mostly remembered positively these days but who was controversial in his time"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:02, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for reviewing Bach's cantata composed for today, - perhaps listen. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:30, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

South Pacific: See also

What do you think of this?: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=South_Pacific_%28musical%29&type=revision&diff=1014598494&oldid=1013694515 -- Ssilvers (talk) 01:44, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A Question on TFA

Hello! I don't believe we've interacted much before, but I wanted to ask about the process for blurbs at TFA. The instructions at WP:TFAR state that there should be a blurb on the FAC nom's talk page (still not clear to me whether this is the talk page of the FAC discussion or the article's talk page itself). After looking over a couple active TFARs, it seems most likely to me that this is just referring to the "about this article" blurb nominators add to the top of FAC noms. Am I correct in this thinking? I recently got Ted Kaczynski through FAC as my first nom and I'm eager to put it up at TFAR. I'm assuming that if I do this, I would be the one writing the blurb? Thanks! AviationFreak💬 15:00, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Many articles promoted between 2015 and 2019 have a blurb on the FAC talk page, written by coordinator Dank or someone else. He's not doing this right now so if you want to write a TFA/R nomination, you are expected to do a draft yourself, though it may be massaged during the nomination process or while it is waiting for its main page date (or even on the date). Let me know if this doesn't answer your question or if you need help formulating the blurb. Congratulations on your work!--Wehwalt (talk) 15:54, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – April 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2021).

Administrator changes

removed Alexandria • Happyme22 • RexxS

Guideline and policy news

  • Following a request for comment, F7 (invalid fair-use claim) subcriterion a has been deprecated; it covered immediate deletion of non-free media with invalid fair-use tags.
  • Following a request for comment, page movers were granted the delete-redirect userright, which allows moving a page over a single-revision redirect, regardless of that redirect's target.

Technical news

  • When you move a page that many editors have on their watchlist the history can be split and it might also not be possible to move it again for a while. This is because of a job queue problem. (T278350)
  • Code to support some very old web browsers is being removed. This could cause issues in those browsers. (T277803)

Arbitration

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:20, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Promotion of Apollo 12

Congratulations, Wehwalt! The article you nominated, Apollo 12, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:06, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Congrats! ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:48, 25 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:01, 25 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you ...

wild garlic

... for improving articles in April! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:28, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for all you do.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:11, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I just did something silly, moving Voces intimae (Sibelius) to String Quartet in D major (Sibelius) which is wrong, should be String Quartet in D minor (Sibelius) or String Quartet (Sibelius) (he wrote others but they will probably not get an article). Help? (The "major" should be deleted.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:20, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It seems to be already there.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:37, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I still see major which should be minor (and the "major" version deleted). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:49, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Done, I hope.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:20, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! But, Gerda is right: let's drop the D minor from the title and have merely String Quartet (Sibelius). Warmly, Silence of Järvenpää (talk) 22:22, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Would you do that also, please? No rush because this one is at least not wrong ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:55, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for that! Thank you today for Old Spanish Trail half dollar, about "yet another coin, probably the highlight in the saga of L.W. Hoffecker, whose efforts to get control of a commemorative coin in 1930 had sparked a presidential veto. Here he is successful, and even designed the coin, about which there are certainly mixed reviews."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:31, 24 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Memories on the Main page today, Psalm 115 thinking of Yoninah, Christa Ludwig and Milva, - voices that made the Earth a better place. Sad that the psalm hook didn't appear on Earth Day as planned, but better pictured and late than going unnoticed ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:19, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Columbia, South Carolina, Sesquicentennial half dollar scheduled for TFA

This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for May 15, 2021. Please check that the article needs no amendments. A coordinator will draft a blurb - based on your draft if the TFA came via TFA requests, or for Featured Articles promoted recently from an existing blurb on the FAC talk page. Feel free to comment on this. We suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors from the day before this appears on Main Page. Thanks and congratulations on your work. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:32, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Apollo 7 scheduled for TFA

This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for May 16, 2021. Please check that the article needs no amendments. A coordinator will draft a blurb - based on your draft if the TFA came via TFA requests, or for Featured Articles promoted recently from an existing blurb on the FAC talk page. Feel free to comment on this. We suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors from the day before this appears on Main Page. Thanks and congratulations on your work. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:32, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Promotion of Delaware Tercentenary half dollar

Congratulations, Wehwalt! The article you nominated, Delaware Tercentenary half dollar, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:06, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Congrats! ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:09, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:31, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding an article

Hi, I have recently created an article "George H. W. Bush 1992 presidential campaign". Since you have created articles of similar kind, which are featured articles, can you please tell whether the article created by me complies with the criteria of a good article, or it needs more information to be added. If possible, kindly help me in improving the article. I have already requested it to be copy-edited. Thankyou! Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 15:54, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I probably do not have time right now.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:31, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, Thank-you!!! Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 12:37, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WTRF as TFA

Hi Wehwalt, I hope you've been really well. Last year we briefly discussed that June 3, the fiftieth anniversary of the release of "Watching the River Flow", would be a nice day to have it appear as TFA. I think you mentioned I could send you a reminder as that date approaches. Thank you, Moisejp (talk) 05:59, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Moisejp, I see that there's now a TFA/R request for that date. It might be best if you filed one too and let the community talk it out. I'm fine, hoping you are too.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:33, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Wehwalt, glad to hear you're well. I see what you mean, the other request is for a thirtieth anniversary, which doesn't seem much or any less worthy for TFA consideration than the fiftieth anniversary of WTRF. OK, I'll probably take your advice and file a request as well, and as you say, we'll see what the community decides. Maybe for whichever article isn't chosen, we could do what you did for one of my TFAs before, which was to put it the next day, such that it still gets several hours of the relevant day in North American—anyway, an idea to consider at least. Cheers, Moisejp (talk) 00:58, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Administrators' newsletter – May 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2021).

Administrator changes

removed Enchanter • Carlossuarez46

Interface administrator changes

removed Ragesoss

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The user group oversight will be renamed to suppress. This is for technical reasons. You can comment at T112147 if you have objections.

Arbitration

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:52, 7 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Shuttle-Centaur

I know I already owe you a couple of favours, but I have Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Shuttle-Centaur/archive1 at FAC. It took six months to get through A classand I fear that it may get closed for lack of reviews. If you could drop by with a few words, that would be much appreciated. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:13, 7 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it's as one sided as that but I'll be over there hopefully tomorrow.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:59, 7 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Who Killed Canadian History?

Hey there. Given your work on Canadian history, I thought you may be interested in a new page I've made for J. L. Granatstein's 1998 book, Who Killed Canadian History?. I'm going to try to get it to GA status eventually, but given its controversial status I wanted to have some that are more experienced in Canadian history than I to have a quick look at it first. Cheers. Tkbrett (✉) 19:48, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I will try to get to it but I'm busy in RL right now and my time on WP is limited.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:17, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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