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Please note that I opened the ANI topic about you as promised.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:47, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Picture of the weightlifters

Remember this photo [1] of Oksen Mirzoyan, Yurik Vardanyan and Yurik Sarkisyan so I just uploaded here under Fair use. And I wanted to ask you to name them in order from left to right. I can recognize Vardanyan, he's the sitting one in the middle with red shirt.--Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 21:13, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, yeah that's what I asked for. I wasn't sure which one was Mirzoyan and which one was Sarkisyan. I fixed Baghdadyan's and few others' names. Vaghinak Galstyan's name seems to be right.--Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 22:49, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

I have a program on my computer that has some basic photo editing tools. I use it for cropping, saturating or enhancing pictures. If you need anything, just let me know. It takes few seconds to do that.--Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 01:10, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Of course not, I don't mind at all. I'll be thankful for that. --Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 19:30, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

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Boxing

So I nominated Boxing in Armenia for a Did you know? ( which means if it does pass the criteria, it will be featured on the main page) and there is this issue.

The following sentence is not sourced.

Soviet Armenian boxing reached it peak during the period from 1970s to early 1990s, which is considered the golden era of Armenian boxing.

Would you please add a source that states it or rewrite it.--Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 05:24, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

You're right. I'm sorry. You wrote the history of weightlifting. --Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 20:20, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Re: Suggestions

I do agree that Cher needs to be replaced by someone else.

Hrant Shahinyan is great, not enough to be there, only in my opinion. Vazgen Sargsyan is there and adding Monte Melkonian will be too militaristic. Levon Aronian will probably fit the best there, but Tigran Petrosian is already there. Kirk Kerkorian is a businessman and how appropriate do you think it is to include him there?

So we're down to 2 options: Levon Ter-Petrosyan and Sirusho. Obviously LTP is of much more significance than her, but his image is controversial among Armenians. I don't really know. To be honest, Ter-Petrosyan (or any other politician) is not someone I would pick to represent the Armenians, but the fact that he have been the most known Armenian politician since 1988 is undeniable. And Sirusho is a pop singer whom I don't really consider someone notable, though known outside of Armenia. This is a tough question. And again, this is only my personal opinion and I can be wrong.

For the Armenian Ameircans page I do agree with you. --Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 02:29, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

WOW! Really, who would ever expect something like that. Not me, fore sure.

I fixed their names and if there's anything else to help with just ask.--Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 02:28, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Vardanyan

It looks great. Nice job!

Yes, he was the President's advisor. Here it says it. This (http://www.ethics.am/restr/view/mem_192) is an official source you can use. It's from the Ethics Commission of Republic of Armenia, which is a government agency. It says that he holds the position since April 2, 2009.--Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 01:16, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

This (http://www.louysworld.com/archives/4114) source says that he left Armenia in 1992 because of political reasons and lived in the United Stats until 2009. It also says that he was appointed President's advisor on April 2, 2009. He claims that he supports Serzh Sargsyan's policy, unlike Robert Kocharyan's and that's why he returned to Armenia.

The Russian Wiki article says in 2000 he was voted the top Armenian athlete of the 20th century by journalists. Yerevan City Hall (http://www.yerevan.am/edfiles/files/Patvavor/Alb.%20Azaryan.pdf) link can be used as a source. --Երևանցի _{ասելիք կա՞} 00:06, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Blocked

To enforce an arbitration decision, you have been blocked from editing for a period of 3 months. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the guide to appealing arbitration enforcement blocks and follow the instructions there to appeal your block. CT Cooper · talk 13:19, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

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Notice to administrators: In a March 2010 decision, the Committee held that "Administrators are prohibited from reversing or overturning (explicitly or in substance) any action taken by another administrator pursuant to the terms of an active arbitration remedy, and explicitly noted as being taken to enforce said remedy, except: (a) with the written authorization of the Committee, or (b) following a clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved editors at a community discussion noticeboard (such as WP:AN or WP:ANI). If consensus in such discussions is hard to judge or unclear, the parties should submit a request for clarification on the proper page. Any administrator that overturns an enforcement action outside of these circumstances shall be subject to appropriate sanctions, up to and including desysopping, at the discretion of the Committee."

The block was placed by Elockid (talk · contribs), however I have logged it as an arbitration enforcement block. This is really last chance saloon for you now - the next block after this will almost certainly be indefinite; you have been given more than enough chances. CT Cooper · talk 13:19, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

WHY!? Have you stretched the rules so much now that I can be banned for no reason? TheShadowCrow (talk) 16:14, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Are you denying that this is yours? Or do you think its okay to violate the restrictions as long as you create a new account and keep it a secret? By the way, Elockid is a checkuser who wouldn't block somebody for no reason - there is probably technical evidence linking this account with that one. CT Cooper · talk 18:02, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

That is not me. I sometimes go on Wikipedia when I'm at a library. I told you this before. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 22:44, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

The sock account was only editing from one IP. There were absolutely no other users (not even logged out edits) on the IP that you and the sock account were both using. Also, both you and the account were editing from the same machine. Furthermore, the IP that you and the sock account were editing from appears to be a residential IP. If you believe there's a mistake, you can still contest the block by adding the following text: {{unblock|Your text here}}. Elockid ^(Talk) 00:19, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

I can't view the technical evidence because I'm not a checkuser, although I think I and other admins have heard enough to make a judgement. Beyond the technical evidence, you have been previously caught engaging in sock-puppetry and it highly unlikely that there would be someone else in that library at around the same time as you, with the same IP, who so happens to have the same article interests and editing style. Overall, I think with this level of evidence the block can be justified. However TheShadowCrow is welcome to ask for a third opinion using the unblock template. CT Cooper · talk 19:38, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Weightlifting in Armenia

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:07, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Deletion discussion about Iveta Mukuchyan

Hello, TheShadowCrow,

I wanted to let you know that there's a discussion about whether Iveta Mukuchyan should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Iveta Mukuchyan .

If you're new to the process, articles for deletion is a group discussion (not a vote!) that usually lasts seven days. If you need it, there is a guide on how to contribute. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.

Thanks, Mabalu (talk) 03:20, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Mari Harutyunyan

Hello TheShadowCrow,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Mari Harutyunyan for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks, Mabalu (talk) 03:29, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

WP:FAKEARTICLE

Just a heads up: I'm as liberal as they come when it comes to using the talk page while blocked (or while not blocked, for that matter) but you are rapidly stepping into fakearticle territory. I understand you can't use the sandbox while blocked, and this makes a good scratch pad and all, but you probably need to {{hat}} the extended article type content, or move it to your own computer before someone comes and just blanks it or gets irate. Keep in mind, if this is a copy of an article that is unattributed, that would be a copyright violation and needs to be deleted anyway. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 03:33, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Ok. Cooper paid a lot of visits to my talk page during my last ban so I know he saw what I was working on. Since he didn't say anything, I figured I wasn't doing anything wrong. After reading the WP for fakearticles, I still don't understand what it means. Does it mean people like this guy aren't allowed to decorate their userpages in such fashion? Is there some where on Wikipedia/commons that I can use for a scratch pad? Or is there a change I can make that would make the content acceptable? Because I tried putting content on Word documents before and it didn't come out so well. And what's a hat?

Also, is there anything I can do about my two articles now being nominated for deletion? Because both pass WP:SINGER (Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g., a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc. and Has won or placed in a major music competition) but Harutyunyan was deleted anyway and Mukuchyan‎ may be too. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 20:34, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

This is the header. Note the SHOW button to the right.
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
This is the content hidden inside the hat. Hat stands for "Hidden Archive Top", Hab stands for "Hidden Archive Bottom".

Here is an example. Edit it and it will make sense. You can't vote on the AFDs are participate, which I assure you will be closely watched. This is the whole idea of being blocked, you can't participate. And yes, I'm sure you can use a sandbox at Commons if you aren't blocked there.

As for FAKEARTICLE, the policy is simply that you don't make userspace (main and talk page) look like an article. Sandboxes are the exception. That someone else didn't say anything doesn't mean much, I'm notifying you. I will give some time to hat or move them somewhere else, as I'm not trying to be a pain, but they do push the limits of the guidelines on proper use of your talk page. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 22:23, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Is this good? --TheShadowCrow (talk) 22:54, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

That is fine. As I say, I'm pretty liberal about use as long as it doesn't look like an article. In the {{hat}} portion, you have the option of adding a title if you do it with a piping command, like {{hat | This will be the title in the yellow bar.}} Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 23:10, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

I'm also pretty liberal about user talk page usage, and decided not to bother you about it, although I do welcome the use of hat notes. One other thing though - user and user talk pages should not go into main-space categories, so please ensure there are none on this page. To prevent this put a colon after the brackets but in front of the word category like this: Category:Olympic weightlifters of the Unified Team, which will create a link rather than categorize the page. The colons can be removed when the article is moved to the mainspace. CT Cooper · talk 23:14, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I thought a bot took care of that, but I'll be doing it myself from now on.

And while I have your attention, can I ask you to look at this. E4024 has, among other controversial things, called someone a terrorist but the Wikipedia justice process isn't very effective.

In fact User:Toddy1 said "Removed Personal attack per WP:NPA and WP:CIVILITY. BTW I am not your friend. I do not support terrorism." That is not the same as saying that you support terrorism., a shocking contrast of what you said saying someone's edit contains racism and vandalism means (besides, in my link, he directly calls Yerevanci a terrorist). --TheShadowCrow (talk) 23:51, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

The underlying reason for your blocks were that you are banned from that topic but you chose to engage in that area anyway - this issue over what you were or weren't saying was only discussing aggravating factors. That said, I'm happy to say I disagree with Toddy1 here; it is clear what the comment was implying, but I won't get into the business of judging the truthfulness of such a label. In my opinion the overriding problem with this and all such hot areas on Wikipedia is that they are dominated by people with strong views who have an axe to grind; not the best people to rely on to write objective encylcopedic content. Anyone who feels the need to declare their faction on Armenia-Azerbaijan and related controversies or whom cannot communicate with other editors without resorting to name calling, should stay away from that subject, and instead edit a topic area in which in which they have no such feelings. We are to build an encyclopedia; Wikipedia was not created to form a new front for ongoing culture wars, and far to many editors, including you, have the tendency to forget that. CT Cooper · talk 00:30, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Why do you not punish the turk and azeri users whenever they make attacks? If an Armenian user called one of them a terrorist just once I'm certain you would jump to deliver a topic and edit ban. Yet in the case of vice versa, in which the personal attack is made several times, you do nothng. E4024 is currently over-qualified for a topic ban, but I doubt he'll ever get one, since they seem to be for Armenian users only. I'm starting to suspect you are biased. This user's tenth box template would look nice on your user page. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 19:50, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Oh so I'm not a Turk, but I would like to be one? I'm glad we have made some progress since your conspiratorial claim that I was a Turk secretly living in Germany. CT Cooper · talk 01:33, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Still doesn't explain why you ignored a personnal attack. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 22:57, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Because it was at ANI meaning that other admins were already dealing with it, and it was none of my business, and certainly none of yours. I remind you again that you are banned from the AA topic area, including all discussions, and that includes commentary and involvement in other people's ANI reports; I'm being lenient by allowing you to discuss it at all. By the way, speculating about someone's nationality or political interests in order to discredit their viewpoints is a personal attack, and as alluded to above this is second time I have warned you about this behaviour. If it happens again it will be dealt with as abuse of the talk page access privilege that have been provided. CT Cooper · talk 13:10, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Boxing in Armenia

(X! · talk)  · @181  ·  12:03, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Sandbox

I'll delete your sandbox in a few hours when I have access to a better computer (the size keeps on crashing this browser!), alternatively you can tag with {{db-u1}} and another admin will delete it. GiantSnowman 10:05, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

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