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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 23:08, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Reviewed: Fundadores de São Paulo
  • Comment: I was thinking of dropping the "may be" in favour of "is" but that would need a second opinion from someone who understands climate.

Moved to mainspace by Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk). Self-nominated at 11:31, 17 September 2021 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is new enough, long enough and extensively sourced. Hook is interesting and cited in the article. No plagiarism detected on Earwig (some false positives though). I added ALT1, which is the same information but the wording is flipped around. qpq is done so this nom's ready. BuySomeApples (talk) 00:16, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 works for me. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 10:25, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 to T:DYK/P6

Gill

Is the "Gill" redlinked here actually Adrian Gill? Colonies Chris (talk) 11:09, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like, yes. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 11:21, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I've fixed that link. Colonies Chris (talk) 13:24, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Passed. L'OrfeoSon io 12:03, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Reviewer: L'OrfeoGreco (talk · contribs) 10:01, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

For a start, I would like to congratulate the contributor(s) on their general effort. I want them to be certain that no corrective comment made by myself is meant to offend them personally or diminish the importance of their contribution to the Wikipedia project. Having made that clear, we can now proceed to my comments and/or suggestions, formulated on the basis of the GA promotion criteria:

1st Criterion: Well-written

a. Language

  • Lead Section, [...] eventually inducing descent of the air
Comment: It feels as if it isn't clear at which part of the globe the air descends
Suggestion: Maybe add a specification concerning the place where the air eventually lands. L'OrfeoSon io 10:24, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
A bit hard to do this, as while the effect is primarily documented in the Mediterranean it can be applied to other climates. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:09, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I see, thank you. L'OrfeoSon io 10:53, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Lead Section, The interaction of this atmospheric flow with the topography such as the Atlas and Zagros mountains further modifies the effect.
Comment: Something is missing from this sentence, making it incomprehensible.
Suggestion: I suspect the contributor(s) meant to say something like
"The interaction of this atmospheric flow with certain elements of topography, such as the Atlas and Zagros mountains further modifies the effect."
or
"The interaction of this atmospheric flow with topographic features, such as the Atlas and Zagros mountains further modifies the effect."
(In any case, a comma is required before "such as") L'OrfeoSon io 10:24, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Did something else here. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:09, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That'll do, thank you. L'OrfeoSon io 10:54, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Lead Section, Together with sea and land surface feedbacks it may also explain [...] of the monsoon.
Suggestion: A comma is required after "feedbacks". L'OrfeoSon io 10:26, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:09, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Theory, [...] attributed to the descent of air in the Hadley cell, which reduces its humidity
Comment: Seen contextually, "which reduces its humidity" feels a tad bit awkward.
May I suggest: "attributed to the descent of air in the Hadley cell, a global-scale tropical atmospheric circulation that features air rising near the equator; as a result, the air's humidity is reduced.
Awkward, maybe, but that form doesn't explain anything better and would require an extra source. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
On second thought, we can leave it as it is. L'OrfeoSon io 18:05, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Theory, This descent occurs because the air is cooling through radiation and the energy loss is balanced by adiabatic heating.
Comment: In this instance, "because" strikes as somewhat simplistic, while present continuous is probably not suitable for the description of a casually recurring phenomenon.
May I suggest:"This descent occurs as the air cools through radiation and the energy loss is balanced by adiabatic heating". L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Theory, The lack of vegetation due to the dryness increases the albedo of the ground and thus the cooling, acting as a positive feedback.
Comment: "Positive feedback" should be explained shortly, otherwise non-specialised readers shan't be able to understand the meaning of the sentence. L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think the link is sufficient. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. L'OrfeoSon io 18:06, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Theory, Air-sea coupling, in particular the upwelling of cold waters east of the subtropical anticyclones induced by their winds and the resulting impediment to convection performs the same role over the oceans
Suggestion: Explain "Air-sea coupling" and perhaps add a wikilink, also add a wikilink over "convection", for it is not one of the common physical phenomena. L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Generalized a bit. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Great! L'OrfeoSon io 18:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Theory, However, the Hadley cell is weak during the summer months when [...] wet climates
Comment: Repetition of the conjunctive "and" should be avoided.
Suggestion: "However, the Hadley cell is weak during the summer months when the anticyclones still exist, dryness often reaches its peak in the deserts, and the latitudes of the Sahara coincide with these of wet climates." L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Did a different thing. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Better yet, thank you. L'OrfeoSon io 18:26, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Theory, Mark J. Rodwell and Brian J. Hoskins in 1996 proposed that instead [...]
Comment: It would be better if the date preceded the names; it can come after them, but it would have to be done in a different way. It is certain, however, that in the sentence's current form, its components' order is problematic.
Suggestion: In 1996, Mark J. Rodwell and Brian J. Hoskins proposed that instead [...]. L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Theory, This involves similar processes as the Hadley cell theory but east–west horizontal advection modifies the energy balance, focusing descent at certain longitudes [...]
Correction: A comma is required before "but east-west" and after "longitudes". L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Theory, rather it originates in the mid-latitude westerlies and descends along atmospheric isentropes
Correction: Comma missing after "rather". L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Theory, In the Rodwell and Hoskins 1996 simulation the location
Correction: Comma missing after "simulation". L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Theory, In the Rodwell and Hoskins 1996 simulation the location of the descent is controlled by orography just west of the descending region, which induce anticyclonic (clockwise) flow and thus southward movement of cold air to their east through the heating over the topography, although the direction of the mean wind modulates the longitude direction of the forcing.
Comment: It is not clear what "which induce" refers to: what are those "which" that induce?. Furthermore, this sentence is too long and it includes far too many pieces of information.
Suggestion: Change or further clarify the "which induce [...]" expression and perhaps split the sentence to aid the flow of narration. L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Specified. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
the orography anticyclonic (clockwise) flow and thus southward movement of cold air to their east through the heating over the topography, although the direction of the mean wind modulates the longitude direction of the forcing.
It feels as if a verb is missing between "cold air" and "to their east". It could be the case that this doesn't hold true, but in any case the sentence isn't comprehensible yet —some extra changes are required. L'OrfeoSon io 18:30, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Added a verb. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 20:21, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent, thank you. L'OrfeoSon io 16:43, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Theory, [...]eastern Mediterranean as otherwise the Indian monsoon is located too far south to induce a Rossby wave train
Comment: Comma missing before "as otherwise". The term "wave train" is not mentioned elsewhere; I reckon it means "wave chain reaction"? It is not clear, thus a short explanation has to be added. L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Did a different thing. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent! L'OrfeoSon io 17:46, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Theory, Ossó et al. 2019 showed that [...]
Comment: Since the date is included in the citation, repeating it in the main body of the text impedes the flow of narration. Although I do understand this is a convention of expression, it also holds ture that "Ossó et al. 2019" is a publication, while "Ossó et al." are a group of people. So,
may I suggest "In 2019, Ossó et al. showed that [...]". L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Theory, Later research has indicated that the Rodwell–Hoskins mechanism can be induced by monsoons other than the Indian monsoon, for example the South American monsoon may induce subsidence in the Southeastern Pacific and western slope of the Andes, and the North Pacific High may be a product of the North American monsoon.
Comment: The sentence is too long. Repetition of the conjunctive "and" has to be avoided. The comma before "for example" is problematic, because the text that follows is a standalone sentence. The phrase "on the" is missing before the phrase "western slope".
Suggestion: "Later research has indicated that the Rodwell–Hoskins mechanism can be induced by monsoons other than the Indian monsoon. For example, the South American monsoon may induce subsidence in the Southeastern Pacific and on the western slope of the Andes; moreover, the North Pacific High may be a product of the North American monsoon. L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Did a split. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The split wokrs just fine. However, I think you missed "on the" before "western slope". L'OrfeoSon io 17:47, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Added. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 20:21, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Theory, The subtropical anticyclones are subsequently strengthened by cooling over the oceans and cloud feedbacks and according
Correction: comma before "and according" —although commas do not typically precede "and", it is required here. L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Evidence, [...] the eastern Mediterranean including southeastern Europe and eastern Sahara and in the eastern Atlantic
Correction: Add a comma before "and in the eastern Atlantic". L'OrfeoSon io
Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Evidence, [...] and Atlas Mountains and summer precipitation is negligible in the descent areas
Correction: comma before "and summer". L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Evidence, Other phenomena linked to the Rodwell–Hoskins mechanism are oxygen isotope variations in corals of the northern Red Sea which appear to correlate with the intensity of the Indian Monsoon,[26] the synchrony of Near East atmospheric circulation changes with the monsoon[10] and fluctuations in the intensity of the African monsoon after the onset of the Indian one which are mediated by dry air intrusions[27] and include a temporary weakening of precipitation.
Comment: This sentence is monstrous in size, spanning a whole paragraph.
Suggestion: The contributor(s) should split it to aid the flow of narration, thereby allowing the reader to understand the meaning of the text. L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Implications, According to Rodwell and Hoskin 2001
Comment: In this instance, since the two scientists are the main contributors to the establishment of the theory, it would be more stylistically proper saying "According to Rodwell and Hoskins, the African monsoon..." and then citing the specific paper.
Suggestion: the date is not required in this instance, you can remove it. L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Implications, Enomoto 2003 & Enomoto 2004
Comment: Again, this "Name Date" style feels ungrammatical when seen in the text's main body. Moreover, repeating the "Name Date" tag found in the corresponding citation is redundant.
Suggestion: "In 2003, [The scientist's first name] Enomoto [...]" & "In 2004, Enomoto". L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
All these are references to specific publications. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes they are, but they are given as citations via the typical Wikipedia way for citing references. Seen as plain text, Enomoto 2003 recognized [...] is ungrammatical. Although I cannot find the specific Manual of Style rule for some reason, empirically speaking I don't usually come across such sentences on Wikipedia —although they are more than common in scientific journals. L'OrfeoSon io 18:35, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Implications, Additionally, vorticity anomalies originating directly from the monsoon outflow may enter into the jet stream as Rossby waves.
Suggestion: The contributor(s) should explain "vorticity anomalies" shortly, or at the very least add a wikilink. L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Linked. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Implications, Di Capua et al. 2020 noted that [...] & Wu and Shaw 2016 proposed
Comment: same as before.
Suggestion: "As stated in Di Capua et al. 2020/Wu and Shaw 2016", or "In 2020, Di Capua et al. noted that/In 2016 Wu and Shaw proposed that". L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Implications, by shifting its monsoon-related maxima
Suggestion: Wiki-link "maxima" to Maximum and minimum. L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Did a different thing. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Just fine! L'OrfeoSon io 17:48, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Paleoclimate, The strength of the Rodwell–Hoskins-induced descent is a function of the strength of the monsoon and climate variability impacting monsoon intensity can thus alter the descent as well.
Comment: Grammatically erroneous sentence.
Suggestion: I reckon a semicolon is to be placed between "variability" and "impacting monsoon intensity [...] as well.", i.e. "The strength of the Rodwell–Hoskins-induced descent is a function of the strength of the monsoon and climate variability; impacting monsoon intensity can thus alter the descent as well.". L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Split. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Fine! L'OrfeoSon io 17:48, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Paleoclimate, 'Through the Rodwell–Hoskins mechanism the development
Correction: comma after "Rodwell–Hoskins mechanism". L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Paleoclimate, The climate effects of the Rodwell-Hoskins mechanism may have influenced oceanic climate during the existence and breakup of Pangea in the last 250 million years.
Correction: missing "the" before "oceanic climate". L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Paleoclimate, During maxima in precession, a key Milankovitch cycle, and minima in global ice area
Comment: This sentence is impossible to comprehend, and this is probably due to its having been expressed in terms of extreme scientific specificity.
Please, rephrase it and/or add clarifications, so that the average reader can understand its meaning. L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Rewrote this. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It is a lot more easy to understand now, thank you for your edit. However, I have to note that the tenses used do not match. I simplified the sentence, so that I can make it more clear:
When [they] reach, [it] may have induced, although [it] may have negated the drying.
I guess you mean "When [they] reach, [it] may induce, although [it] may negate the drying"?
In any case, the sentence is grammatically erroneous at the moment, despite it also being a lot more comprehensible. L'OrfeoSon io 17:56, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Matched the tenses. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 20:21, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
All good. L'OrfeoSon io 16:45, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Climate variability, may explain why: Teleconnections associated with the Indian Ocean Dipole (IOD), in particular the development of Rossby wave trains.
Comment: "may explain why" does not match this sentence, and many of the sentences listed are also constructed in a manner that makes them irrelevant to the aforementioned "why".
Suggestion: remove the "why" from "may explain why" and the problem shall be solved for many instances. You can then modify the sentences constructed to match the "why" (e.g. the "During years where the monsoon is unusually wet [...]") accordingly.
You can also do the reverse, keeping the "why" and then changing the sentences that do not match it, so that they fit. L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Took out the "why". Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nice, but now you have to also modify some of the sentences so that they match the introductory phrase "The Rodwell–Hoskins effect may explain:".L'OrfeoSon io 17:57, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 20:21, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Climate variability, Bollasina and Nigam 2011 proposed that [...] & Yang 2021 proposed & Xiang et al. 2023 suggested.
Comment: While most sentences in the list are either linked to the "may explain why" or not, these three are entirely unrelated to this dipole.
Suggestion: Modify them to match the "may explain:" or "may explain why:" introductory sentence. L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Is that necessary. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm afraid it is. Let me give you an example:
The Rodwell–Hoskins effect may explain: [...] *During years where the monsoon is unusually wet over Arizona, the Great Plains, Midcontinent and Pacific Northwest are unusually dry.
This sentence is grammatically erroneous.
You should make a change of this sort: The Rodwell–Hoskins effect may explain: [...] *The phenomenon in which during the years where the monsoon is unusually wet over Arizona, the Great Plains, Midcontinent and Pacific Northwest are unusually dry. L'OrfeoSon io 17:59, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have recast this. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 20:21, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Climate variability, decreased the Africa-Asia temperature gradients
Suggestion: explain the term "temperature gradients". L'OrfeoSon io
Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Climate variability, Dipole-like precipitation biases
Suggestion: Explain "biases". L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Climate variability, They may play a role in altering European climate according to Douville et al. 2000 and Gregory, Mitchell and Brady 1997
Correction: Missing "the" before "European climate" & "According to [& names]" should be placed at the start of the sentence, because it causes confusion in its current place. I would also suggest removing the date, it is redundant (see previous comment). L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Climate variability, Cherchi et al. 2016
Suggestion: Remove date, as previously explained, or consider changing it to "In 2016, Cherchi et al. [...]". L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Alternative processes, Chen et al. 2001 & Chen et al. 2022.
Suggestions: same as in other suchlike cases. L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No; these are the typical formulations for scientific references. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I couldn't find a specific rule at the Manual of Style, so let;s just leave it as it is, it's a minor issue in any case. L'OrfeoSon io 18:00, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Alternative processes, which acts in the opposite direction to the [...]
Comment: Grammatically problematic, if seen contextually.
Suggestion: Replace "acts in the opposite direction" with "contradicts". L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Rewritten. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Alternative processes, According to Chen et al. 2022 however
Correction: comma after "however". L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Alternative processes, A Hadley cell-like interaction between the Mediterranean and the African monsoon intensifies Mediterranean drought.
Comment: Since no preparatory text preceded this sentence, I failed to understand how it is linked to the sentence that came before it.
Suggestion: Maybe explain it a bit more. L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Turned the section into a list. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Smart solution, bravo! L'OrfeoSon io 18:02, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Alternative processes, [...] which is important in inducing the North Pacific High in response to the Asian and the South Atlantic High in response of the South American monsoon and are also connected to the low-level inflow of moisture into the monsoons.
Suggestion: Avoid repetition of "in response". L'OrfeoSon io 16:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

b. Manual of Style

2nd Criterion: Verifiable

a. List of all references included

b. Reliable sources are cited inline

c. No original research

Source spot-checking

  1. [2]: included in the source, correct page; note that Rodwell-Hoskins point to Charney 1975 for substantiation. L'OrfeoSon io 16:14, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  2. [13]: sentence included in the source.
  3. [15]: sentence located in locus "2 MATERIALS AND METHODS, 2.1 Study area"; note that Moraes cites Garreaud et al. 2003, Rutllant et al. 2003 and Garreaud 2009 for substantiation. L'OrfeoSon io 16:16, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  4. [22]: page & content OK
  5. [25]: page & content OK
  6. [26]: page & content OK
  7. [27]: page & content OK
  8. [37]: content OK, couldn't specify the page based on the source provided. L'OrfeoSon io 16:14, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  9. [38]: content OK, couldn't specify the page based on the source provided. L'OrfeoSon io 16:14, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  10. [44]: page & content OK
  11. [49]: page & content OK
  12. [51]: page & content OK
  13. [58]: page & content OK
  14. [68]: The page provided does not totally correspond to the sentence substantiated by this citation. It seems as if the sentence is loosely connected to the text in this specific page. Maybe citing another page is required? L'OrfeoSon io 16:14, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    No, it's A similar feature is also present in the LO2- RO2 response and may be a Rossby wave response to changes in the Indian monsoon circulation. Such waves have been iden- tified by Rodwell and Hoskins [1996 Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:25, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh, I see. Missed it, thank you! L'OrfeoSon io 16:34, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  15. [69]a.: page & content OK
  16. [75]: page & content OK

3rd Criterion: Broad in its coverage

a. Main aspects addressed

Ok then. L'OrfeoSon io 16:52, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Jo-Jo Eumerus I think you should add a short sentence in the lead section referring to who Rodwell-Hoskins are/were, and when they formulated their hypothesis, even if there isn't a Wikipedia article on them yet —in that case, you might as well add red links. L'OrfeoSon io 16:14, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You'll be surprised, but I don't know them at all. Also, I kinda doubt they meet WP:NPROF Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:25, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Interesting... I found their names after doing some research:
    One's Mark John Rodwell, a professor at the University of Reading, Department of Meteorology, the other being Brian Hoskins, who has an en.Wikipedia page translated in 3 languages and is a member of the CBE and a FRS. In the light of these discoveries, I must insist on including their names and the date when they first published the hypothesis, so as to give them all due acknowledgement.
    To help you, I tried to find a proper source: this one includes the label "First published", with an exact date, and also includes the names of the scientists along with their academic positions. It is the Royal Society of Meteorology, so it is trustworthy.
    this one might be useful, but it is self-centered, so you can avoid it. L'OrfeoSon io 17:06, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I added the info. If you dislike the manner in which it was done, you might as well alter it accordingly. L'OrfeoSon io 11:59, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

b. No out-of-focus text

4th Criterion: Neutral

5th Criterion: Stable

6th Criterion: Illustrated

@Jo-Jo Eumerus, I see. In this case, you should add a picture of a characteristic feature of the theory, e.g. a monsoon, and then add a decriptive caption including how this feature is linked to the theory. In any case, since there are many pictures of such features, the article cannot be without any image. L'OrfeoSon io 16:25, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think they would illustrate anything much, though. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
OK, if no useful pictures exist, none should be added. L'OrfeoSon io 16:48, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(no media available on Commons) L'OrfeoSon io 16:53, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

b. Media are relevant

(no media available on Commons) L'OrfeoSon io 16:53, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Review result

Responded to some things. Sorry if it looks a bit rushed, but end of year is when some major projects come up here on Wikipedia (African humid period). Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It is my firm belief that a user of your level of contribution always strives for the best; worry not! L'OrfeoSon io 21:07, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations. Promoted to GA status. L'OrfeoSon io 12:01, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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