Portal talk:Germany

The Germany Portal is a featured portal, which means it has been identified as one of the best portals on Wikipedia. If you see a way this portal can be updated or improved without compromising previous work, please feel free to contribute.

Portal milestones
Date	Process	Result
November 10, 2006	Featured portal candidate	Promoted

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Germany Top‑importance

	Germany portal This page is within the scope of WikiProject Germany, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Germany on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.GermanyWikipedia:WikiProject GermanyTemplate:WikiProject GermanyGermany articles
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Countries

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WikiProject Countries to-do list:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Article requests : Check out the article alerts; see if anything catches your fancy.
Cleanup : clean-up listing for Countries
Stubs : de-stub articles in Category:Stubs by region.
Other : add {{WPCountries}} to talk pages of related articles, and assess.

Europe

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Portals

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Germany portal selections

Useful subpages

Portal:Germany/Selected articles and pictures - list of possible selected articles and pictures
Portal:Germany/Selected article - shows all selected articles that can be shown on portal
Portal:Germany/Selected picture - shows all selected pictures that can be shown on portal
Portal:Germany/Anniversaries - overview of existing and missing Anniversary pages

Page Views

This is one of the best portals that the English Wikipedia has. It has had an average of 104 daily pageviews during the baseline period of 1 January 2019 - 28 February 2019. By contrast, the head article Germany has had 15,549 daily page views in that period, and that doesn't count views of History of Germany, states of Germany, or any topic that is about Germany.

I am not proposing that this portal be deleted, only that portals that are broken or neglected be deleted. But this is as good a place as anywhere to put portal view metrics. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:52, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you that's useful. But a primary assumption is that portals are no different from articles: sitting in mainspace, easy to find, highly linked from other articles and designed to be reader-facing i.e. to inform and entertain. Let's break that down. First, it's not in mainspace so that immediately means it will never appear in any searches - the main means by which readers navigate. Second, it is well linked, unlike many portals, both from articles and from categories. But typically the portal link in articles is buried in the footer information at the bottom of the page along with other general navigation aids, so I'd say the links are not that visible. It'd be interesting to survey, BTW, how much readers use the different navigation means to see which are the more effective. Third, it is relatively informative, but there isn't a lot of article coverage; ironically you have to navigate away to the sub-portals to find that. But however, good it is as a portal, it will never get the hits of the equivalent article as it's not in mainspace and the search box will never display it.

So there are only two ways to improve on the current situation. We could make this portal more visible by somehow getting portals to display in searches. Caveat: they really must be of sufficient quality to do that. If that's impossible, then we can make them more visible on the articles themselves e.g. put them in the infobox and more visible in . The other way to improve it is to recognise that portals have other purposes. One is as a navigation aid. This portal isn't great in that respect as there are relatively few article links and so the coverage isn't wide. Bizarrely the topic is almost too broad to provide good coverage without the sub-portals, although I think it could be better. Another key purpose of portals, one that I have used to good effect, is as a project tool to improve coverage of a topic. To be fair, I have the advantage that, usually, I can import a ready-made portal from German Wikipedia where they are fully on board this. But I have also set one up from scratch using the same principles and it's not too difficult. A good project-facing portal will have a comprehensive set of article links that is balanced (aiding prioritisation) and clearly laid out (aiding navigation) plus sections listing featured and good articles on the topic, articles for improvement, wanted articles and images, and, yes, some red links which show where coverage is still required. You can see at a glance how good the coverage i and create and improve articles in a focussed way, ideally with the cooperation of other project editors. HTH. I can honestly say that, without the portals I have created, I would not have had the incentive or focus to create many of my articles. Bermicourt (talk) 07:56, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It is also interesting to compare portals to other navigational and meta pages: This portal usually gets as many pageviews as the category, the outline and the talk page combined. —Kusma (t·c) 13:01, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Portal expanded

The portal has been expanded with the addition of a new selected cuisine section. The article selections listed below were added. If anyone is interested, please feel free to discuss these changes here. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 13:16, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Selected cuisine entries

1 * Westphalian ham 2 * Rinderbraten 3 * Flammekueche 4 * Schweinshaxe 5 * Sauerbraten 6 * Bremer Klaben 7 * German wine 8 * Fischbrötchen 9 * Bratwurst 10 * Beer in Germany 11 * Handkäse 12 * Currywurst 13 * Knödel 14 * Maultasche 15 * Bayrisch Kraut 16 * Magenbrot 17 * Cuisine of Hamburg 18 * Mett 19 * Berliner Weisse 20 * Pomeranian cuisine 21 * Saxon cuisine 22 * Thuringian sausage 23 * Königsberg marzipan

FYI: Request for comment regarding Austrian (or Swiss) Standard German

Hi, I would like to call your attention to the following request for comment because it is relevant to Standard German, especially to Austrian (or Swiss) Standard German:

Help talk:IPA/Standard German#Should we use Austrian (or Swiss) Standard German pronunciation for topics related to Austria (or Switzerland)?

Thanks --mach 🙈🙉🙊 14:32, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

German standard, Switzerland and Austria are part of Germany in history. Germany is older as state. --92.76.97.5 (talk) 18:16, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That's rubbish, Switzerland and Austria were never part of Germany historically and both are older than Germany. Germany was a collection of states within the Holy Roman Empire until 1871. To answer the question, we are at liberty to use regional spelling and terms for regional articles so I imagine it's okay to use regional pronunciation too. In any case, there is no standard German way of saying some Swiss and Austrian words e.g. standard German doesn't recognise Swiss "merci" or Austrian "Droggn". If anyone disputes it, add both. Bermicourt (talk) 07:19, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

New article on artist Paul Seckel

I created a new article on the artist and painter, Paul Seckel. Any further research would be appreciated! Right cite (talk) 14:16, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

New GA nomination

Hi, I have created the article King Ludwig Oak with the help of de:König-Ludwig-Eiche and have nominated it for WP:GAN. If anyone willing to review it are welcome. Thank you.— Amkgp 💬 15:37, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]