User talk:Graeme Bartlett/archive 26
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Nigel Konstam
Dear Graeme, You will recall that back early January I requested you restore my draft article on Konstam on my Sandbox page where I was gradually improving it after initial comment last year. I had also requested to enquire what area you had specifically picked up that you felt was from copyright material. I can get Konstam to sign a form about that as required, or edit it if you are more specific. Also, Konstam has now had two new pictures taken which will replace the previous versions that also caused difficulty regarding copyright. Many thanks. Tony
Graeme, I would also add this as I cannot seem to find previous threads of our conversation on your site.
Just to be clear, I have drafted this whole article in my own style from scratch, and not copied (certainly knowingly) directly from http://www.verrocchio.co.uk/cms/index.php/sculpture. Inevitably, because I am having to provide evidence to substantiate my statements or claims some citations will refer to that, and other Konstam publications. I spent some time correcting the tone and citations, making sure that they are correctly formatted, stemming from the initial criticism of the draft article. Indeed, I have specifically asked Konstam to post copies of various letters and articles and so forth, written by third parties, so that they can be visible to the public at large and properly referenced. A number are quite dated - before the internet age, hence difficulty in locating them. Please can we all 'work together' to get this article appropriately promulgated?
Finally, Is this the licence/form of words that I need to get Konstam to agree to - and I assume post somewhere on the article talk pages?
I, the copyright holder of this work, hereby publish it under the following license:
This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.0 Generic license.
You are free: • to share – to copy, distribute and transmit the work • to remix – to adapt the work Under the following conditions: • attribution – You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work). • share alike – If you alter, transform, or build upon this work, you may distribute the resulting work only under the same or similar license to this one.
Many thanks again. Tony
- for the text at http://www.verrocchio.co.uk/cms/index.php/sculpture, the copyright notice should be linked or placed on that page somewhere. Actually we prefer Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Generic license or CC BY-SA 3.0 License and the GFDL for text. He can use the WP:PERMIT process to send the email to the OTRS team. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:25, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks Graeme. Tony Thornburn (talk) 22:30, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
Graeme, I am getting Nigel Konstam to complete the necessary CC licences. In the meantime I have copied back to my Sandbox the draft I had submitted (having saved it on my computer on 30 Dec before submission) to work on again, but all the reference links are now messed up, because I copied the final page rather than the edit page. So as an interim measure I have copied an earlier version to at least get the article looking correct, but it was considerably edited not withstanding the citation aspects.
Please could you therefore copy-back what you had deleted and replace on my draft page please? I will then start re-editing.
New attributed images of Nigel Konstam and his model pictures have been taken so I will replace the previous ones (with certificates) - but it would help me if the previous ones were left in initially so that I can get the new ones located correctly (and then delete the others). As you will probably be aware, unless one is constantly drafting articles it is easy to forget what goes where etc.
Many thanks. Tony Thornburn (talk) 22:20, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
Hi Graeme - last year you supported development of an article about Alnoor Bhimani <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alnoor_Bhimani>. I'd like to add a photo and bio box to this article, and would appreciate your advice. Re photo - have found the steps to upload and can assure the photo is Commons-OK. My issue is the bio box. Is this a template? If so, where is it found and as a newbie to editing may I add a box to an article? Box content is non-controversial - just the person's nationality and so forth as per other bio's I've seen. Any advice would be valued. Caboc333 (talk) 13:48, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi Graeme - what are the next steps for changing my Trifacta page from a Draft to published? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Trifacta Nhoang9204 (talk) 21:50, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
I had made a article Vishal Umavane it had recently deleted by you I want reason or restore my page. You ca get my reason of creating by searching Vishal umavane on Wikipedia or Google. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vumavane (talk • contribs) 07:01, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
This is a notice to say that I have created an [Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Doraemon media|AFD]] for this article you have restored. While I have no reason to criticise your handling of the request for undeletion I believe the full context is missing. The page isn't simply redundant due to the navbox, but the content is actually either present and/or linked from Doraemon and the Media list page simply isn't required anymore. The navbox does serve as as a replacement, but is not the entire reason the page should be deleted. It is cleanup of outdated articles and formats that the Anime and Manga project no longer use as much as it is redundant to the nav box.
This is a courtesy message and a response isn't expected, however if you wish to discuss it, your contributions are welcome.SephyTheThird (talk) 02:49, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
Couple of issues
Hi Graeme. At the end of my tether with a serial vandal on the Adele page. The source in the article states her mother was 20 when Adele was two (Adele was born in 1988 so that would make her mothers birth year circa 1970). A nuisance editor keeps inserting her birth date as 1968 despite there being zero evidence, and is contradicted by the reliable source in the article. This vandal then sent me this link in some bizarre attempt to convince me she was born in 1968... http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/music/3473210/The-truth-behind-Adeles-struggle-to-stardom.html ...Adele is 22 in the article, and it states her mother is 40...so as Adele was born in 1988 that would again confirm her mothers birth circa 1970. 1968 is impossible and the vandal has repeatedly ignored this. Need admin assistance on this (and also go through their previous posts where the date is changed). The second issue is the David Bowie page has become unlocked, and given the huge traffic at the minute it is ripe for nuisance ip edits which have since started...so seeking an extension on that page (few weeks perhaps). Thanks for your assistance.RyanTQuinn (talk) 20:07, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
- Well I have semi protected, David Bowie again for 10 days. I have undone the change to 1968. But it is not vandalism, just a dispute. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:06, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks Graeme. I've one more request...Alan Rickman who has just died, his article is being met with heavy traffic and as a result heavy vandalism from ip addresses. So a short term lock would be ideal (perhaps a week?). Regards Adele, the reason I called it vandalism (after many many edits) was that the two sources both claimed a circa 1970 birth..."when Adele was two, her 20 year old mother"...and "22 year old Adele and her 40 year old mother" (and this from the source the editor bizarrely posted to me)...so 18 year gap with both...Adele born in 1988....a 1968 birth of her mother is impossible in regards to both sources. I want accuracy, I'm not pushing any year...only what the sources state. I asked the editor repeatedly to provide a 1968 source and none came...a database which doesn't specify an individual identity is not a proper source. Cheers for your input on this matter.RyanTQuinn (talk) 14:07, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
- Alan Rickman semi protected for 3 days. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 20:31, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
- Cheers Graeme. I've edited it back to circa 1970 as per the sources...and common sense. My edit summary reads as follows; "Not leaving this nonsense sitting like this; "Adele born in 1988, mother Penny born 1968, Evans left when Adele was two, leaving her 20-year-old mother to raise her. Anyone reading this will give up". The article is killed in the first two sentences as it stood previously. A database is not a proper source. I was in the same classroom with someone who shared my name. It needs to be a specific source that refers directly to the individual in question..and in two sources, both stated an 18 year age gap. I will take this to talk as you have requested.RyanTQuinn (talk) 20:25, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
- Alan Rickman semi protected for 3 days. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 20:31, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks Graeme. I've one more request...Alan Rickman who has just died, his article is being met with heavy traffic and as a result heavy vandalism from ip addresses. So a short term lock would be ideal (perhaps a week?). Regards Adele, the reason I called it vandalism (after many many edits) was that the two sources both claimed a circa 1970 birth..."when Adele was two, her 20 year old mother"...and "22 year old Adele and her 40 year old mother" (and this from the source the editor bizarrely posted to me)...so 18 year gap with both...Adele born in 1988....a 1968 birth of her mother is impossible in regards to both sources. I want accuracy, I'm not pushing any year...only what the sources state. I asked the editor repeatedly to provide a 1968 source and none came...a database which doesn't specify an individual identity is not a proper source. Cheers for your input on this matter.RyanTQuinn (talk) 14:07, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
Reply.
Sure thing. Sorry about that. --XenaDance-- (talk) 23:19, 14 January 2016 (UTC) --XenaDance--
- I have been doing much the same thing as you! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:20, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
Changes to Flow-based Programming by JzG
Hi Graeme, thanks for your support with my unblocking issue. I would really appreciate a little advice: I am unhappy with JzG's changes to the above-mentioned article, and he has not been forthcoming in explaining his logic. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JzG#Flow-Based_Programming_primary-inline_tags - and I have issues with some of his other changes as well. However, I don't have the least idea on how to go about getting some of the deleted information back into the article, while still up to WP standards, given that it is about a technology that is becoming very important in many areas of computer science. There are a number of links supporting this statement in the article, so it is not some figment of my imagination! While I have the impression that WP is not well-adapted to describing emerging technologies (although FBP is over 40 years old now), I think there must be some middle ground so that readers can at least see how to get more information. IMO JzG could have suggested (or made) constructive changes, rather than just cutting rather drastically! I see a number of conflict resolution mechanisms in WP, but I have no idea which, if any, would be appropriate. I also don't want to get into an unnecessary war. Help would be much appreciated. Cheers. Jpaulm (talk) 03:12, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
- @Jpaulm:. Actually I was not involved in your unblock. But for the autobiography I did not restore it, instead referring you to the wrong person Guy Macon when it should have been JzG. Really the userfication should have included the whole history for copyright credit. Anyway on the topic of Flow-based programming, if you have any issue with the content, since you are not permitted to edit the page, you must propose what you would like to change on the talk:Flow-based programming page. Primary sources are allowed to support simple facts, but not controversial ones or to prove notability. I see that JzG has removed text by claiming that it is either original research or promotion. So to avoid these claims, please make sure the proposals include references, particularly ones not written by you alone. Because of the limitation placed on you with the unblock, it may be more enjoyable for you to edit other pages on Wikipedia. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:41, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for getting back to me so promptly! I do have a number of questions, for which I apologize! 1) I guess the History is gone if we ever restore my status as a WP notable - could this be a problem? 2) For now, I am concentrating on the FBP article, not the autobiography, as JzG has decided I am not notable - even though it was decided the other way about 10 years ago 3) Is FBP controversial - I didn't think so, after 40 years, and the large number of products now using its concepts - but I may be wrong! 4) If I put a proposed History section up on the talk page, is there a way to get an administrator to modify it to conform to WP rules - as I really don't understand most of them?! :-) 5) It's not a question of "enjoying". The History section is not acceptable in its present form - JzG did a real hatchet job on it. 6) I did include a number of references, but I put them in References or External Links - I assumed people would look there, but maybe that's the wrong place...? 7) Sorry to be dumb, but I still don't understand JzG's "primary-inline" tags - 3 of those articles were not written by me, and the one that was was thoroughly vetted and approved by experts within IBM (I could drop that one if you require it). Thanks again for your help, and best regards. Jpaulm (talk) 15:44, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry, I see that one of the refs that JzG "primary-inlined" has my name on it when it shouldn't have. I have asked JzG whether correcting that might change some of his decisions. Apologies! Jpaulm (talk) 21:25, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for getting back to me so promptly! I do have a number of questions, for which I apologize! 1) I guess the History is gone if we ever restore my status as a WP notable - could this be a problem? 2) For now, I am concentrating on the FBP article, not the autobiography, as JzG has decided I am not notable - even though it was decided the other way about 10 years ago 3) Is FBP controversial - I didn't think so, after 40 years, and the large number of products now using its concepts - but I may be wrong! 4) If I put a proposed History section up on the talk page, is there a way to get an administrator to modify it to conform to WP rules - as I really don't understand most of them?! :-) 5) It's not a question of "enjoying". The History section is not acceptable in its present form - JzG did a real hatchet job on it. 6) I did include a number of references, but I put them in References or External Links - I assumed people would look there, but maybe that's the wrong place...? 7) Sorry to be dumb, but I still don't understand JzG's "primary-inline" tags - 3 of those articles were not written by me, and the one that was was thoroughly vetted and approved by experts within IBM (I could drop that one if you require it). Thanks again for your help, and best regards. Jpaulm (talk) 15:44, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
Just received personal abuse
Hi Graeme. It's not often i contact admins but I have no other option on this. At the bottom of my talkpage Client5 just told me to #### off ####. The user hasnt edited long and already has had constant disputes (the latest on the Amy Winehouse page). RyanTQuinn (talk) 00:43, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
- I have redacted the comment. You do not have to leave this sort of thing on your talk page! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 04:01, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
Please restore Talk:Samra
You restored Samra back on the 5th of January, and it is now the subject of an AFD. Could you also restore the talk page for us? I think having the talk page history would allow those of us less knowledgeable on the subject to understand the arguments expressed in the AFD. Thanks. --| Uncle Milty | talk | 13:39, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
Bowie/Adele protection
Graeme, I'm requesting more longer term page protection for both Adele and David Bowie. Both pages had indefinite locks but this changed when an admin lock was inserted to prevent any edits other than from admins..and once that expired the page then became unprotected. Surely when an admin lock is installed, once that period is over the page should return to its previous status. Ultimately the admin lock only serves to make the page more susceptible to vandals in the longer term. The traffic on both pages are extremely high, much higher than articles with existing long term locks. Adele is averaging 20k per day, Bowie (before his death) around 8 to 10k. The Adele page is manageable with the lock, plus her page is only going to continue being among the busiest on the site for the foreseeable (awards show appearances; upcoming Garmmys, Brits, plus new single releases)...Bowie's being a featured article plus the high traffic also leaves it susceptible. For this reason (the same reason they were given indefinite lock status in the first place) I'd like to see their protection returned. Thanks.RyanTQuinn (talk) 23:03, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
- I extended protection for Adele, it had not become unprotected yet as you feared. But for David Bowie, protection has expired and vandalism or disruptive editing has not restarted. Normally we prefer to allow IP editors to edit constructively. WP:RFPP is the preferred place to ask if you do see trouble that needs protection. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:15, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
- Ahh ok. I had seen you lock other articles in the past so thought it was customary to alert an admin directly if an article was being messed with. Cheers for the Adele lock, that will save a lot of cleanup. Regards Bowie, I ≠haven't edited much at all on it (bar a couple of edits in the past week), but I especially hate to see disruptive edits on a featured article. Previous editors put so much work into those. I've see articles lose featured article status because of endless weak edits and outright vandalism. Looking at the Bowie article I see it has had seven different reverts in it's first 18 hours since being unlocked, and all those edits from ip addresses or editors with few edits. More experienced editors (and non vandals) have better understanding of what is and isn't encyclopedic content. A featured article with heavy traffic is much more susceptible to lose its status when unlocked.RyanTQuinn (talk) 22:51, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
Questions about ExxonMobile RfC closure
Thank you for closing the RfC here [[1]]. I do have a question about the justification for closing. I understand that based on a basic count of votes the exact statement would be included. However, I didn't see anything thing regarding a consideration of the various arguments as well as the numerous issues with the way the RfC was conducted.
- The RfC was stated in a less than neutral way because for all but the last week or so the RfC it was NOT clear that the MJ reference was in the article, just not with the exact sentence HughD proposed. Thus some editors may not have realized that support was approving an exact quote, not a general inclusion. Almost all editors support some form of conclusion. I would hope we would have an overwhelming consensus to include an exact sentence.
- Second, a recent RfC for the same reference here [2] resulted in "include but no consensus on exact format". I think that would be a reasonable conclusion here as well since I don't see an actual consensus for the exact sentence.
- Third, the NPOVN[[3]] and RSN[[4]] discussions from last fall were generally against inclusion of the opinion aspects of the article and only supported inclusion of the facts contained in the article. The quoted sentence was seen by those noticeboard discussions as including both fact and editorial opinion.
Would you mind offering a bit more information in your closing. Do you think the article should include the exact sentence (this is how HughD will expect the result to be used) or just inclusion in general and allow editors to again decide on the talk page? Thanks Springee (talk) 04:45, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
- I will see if I can expand my rationale. The second and third point should have been referred to in the RFC, but since they were not, their results are superseded/irrelevant. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 05:01, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
- I attempted to add the third point to the original RfC but the links were initially moved [5] and then deleted [6]. Given the highly contentious nature of the original RfC I didn't feel I could easily add the RSN and NPOVN material into the original RfC without being accused of creating bias. #2 didn't really occur to me until later since I was fully aware of the issues and what HughD was attempting to do by asking if we should include an exact sentence. This one really should be taken into consideration when deciding if the "support" was really for the exact sentence or just inclusion in general. All previous results were for inclusion in general, never for an exact sentence. I think exact sentence would require a very high level of consensus vs general inclusion. Anyway, those are my thoughts and concerns. Thank you for listening. Springee (talk) 05:20, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
Dear Graeme Bartlett. You recently closed the RfC on ExxonMobil with a result: support for inclusion of the statement "In December 2009 Mother Jones magazine said ExxonMobil was among the most vocal climate change deniers." However, as you can see the issue was quite controversial and therefore it would be useful if there would be also argumentations which arguments were taken into account to reach to that result. Different policies were referred to support inclusion as also to oppose inclusion, and therefore it would important to know how these different policies were considered. Also, please clarify how was taken or was not taken into account the fact that almost all comments were made before the relevant section was split into a separate article ExxonMobil climate change controversy and right now the relevant subsection is only a summary of the split off section. Thank you in advance. Beagel (talk) 06:37, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
- I discovered only after creating a new section that the similar thread is already opened. Sorry for this. Beagel (talk) 06:41, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi. Yet another quibble I'm afraid. I've no objection to the "sense" of your closure (like the two editors above I'd rather it was the other way round, but don't really care). However, did you notice the "Please be aware that almost all comments in this RfC were made before the section under discussion was split to ExxonMobil climate change controversy and right now the section here includes only a summary of that article."? I think there is an ambiguity in where you've closed the addition-should-be. I think the natural sense of the closure is that it should be added to ExxonMobil climate change controversy; but I also suspect that those very keen to see the statement in the main article might be unhappy with that. If you could clarify whether your closure definitively refers to one article or another, or if it is up to us to sort that out, it might be helpful. Thanks, William M. Connolley (talk) 12:17, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
- I will second the above that it's not clear if this goes in the parent or split article. I also am unclear if the revised closure means the current statement (now in the split off article) is OK given that it does include the article and most of the outside editors wouldn't be aware of the current statement given HughD didn't include it. Thanks Springee (talk) 12:32, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
- FWIW, I've made the edit to the other page here so you can see the context it would have, if that helps. On the main EM page it looks like this William M. Connolley (talk) 20:32, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
Hello. Thank you for stepping up to this contentious formal admin close. Sadly the edit warring continues. Sigh. Sadly the close has left us with back where we started five weeks ago, with the tenacious emboldened and prevailing, but now with the many of our colleagues who contributed to the RfC discussion supporting the addition in good faith greatly disheartened. The article talk page participants were not notified of this discussion here. If your best assessment of the consensus is further discussion is necessary, respectfully might a recommendation to extend the RfC be more appropriate? Would you please consider further adjusting the close, to endorse the content and refs supported by our community, without prejudice to further refinement via additional talk page discussion or failing that via RfC? In other words, clarify that the community supported content is the "new normal", and clarify that edit warring in the wake of an RfC on a DS topic is disruptive? Thanks again. Hugh (talk) 19:20, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
- Hello. Thank you again for your time on this formal RfC close. Sadly your close without prejudice to further discussion is being read as a license to edit war. I believe the views expressed here in this thread on your talk page are not representative of the views of the participants in the RfC. The article talk page was not notified of this off-article discussion of the close. Respectfully may I ask, do you mind if I notify our community directly below the closed RfC? Thank you. Hugh (talk) 21:22, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Graeme. Did you mean the list of extra reading to be just a list of ref numbers only? Aoziwe (talk) 12:48, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
- Hi @Aoziwe: the list of extra reading here are references that I planned to add later once the text was written based on what that reference said. This article was really a draft that was not quite ready, but someone was interested in this topic, so I made it live. So if you know a way where the reference can still be listed, but the numbers disappear, so as to make a list, that would be good. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:27, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
Does this look better?
- Hi @Graeme: I have taken the liberty and been bold and made the suggested change below. Feel free to revert if you do not like it. Aoziwe (talk) 13:12, 6 February 2016 (UTC) Aoziwe (talk) 13:42, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
- @Graeme: Looks like someone did not like the reading list !? Aoziwe (talk) 13:20, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
>>Sample extract follows (obviously the {{PAGENAME}}|section_name works (I have checked) correctly when in situ). A little bit more typing but does the trick I think? What do you think?>>
The free fluoride ion goes on to react with xenon cations.[1]
Nitrogen difluoride can be consumed further to yield nitrogen monofluoride.
NF2 + e− → NF + F−[1]
Extra reading
- Ab initio calculations on some small radicals by the unrestricted hartree-fock method[2]
- A theoretical study of the bond-bond interaction force constant in XF2 molecules[3]
- Decomposition of the Electronically Excited Difluoramino Free Radical[4]
References
- ^ a b Trainor, Daniel W. (February 1989). "Electron dissociative attachment to nitrogen difluoride radicals". The Journal of Physical Chemistry. 93 (3): 1134–1136. doi:10.1021/j100340a022.
- ^ Brown, R.D.; Williams, G.R. (January 1974). "Graeme Bartlett/archive 26". Chemical Physics. 3 (1): 19–34. doi:10.1016/0301-0104(74)80073-X.
- ^ Bruns, Roy; Raff, Lionel; Devlin, J. Paul (1969). "Graeme Bartlett/archive 26". Theoretica Chimica Acta. 14 (3): 232–241. doi:10.1007/bf00527281.
- ^ Bumgardner, Carl L.; Lustig, Max (June 1963). "Graeme Bartlett/archive 26". Inorganic Chemistry. 2 (3): 662–663. doi:10.1021/ic50007a073.
>>End of sample extract<<
RFPP
Hello Graeme, I noticed this change and was thinking maybe you could look this one over, since they are both musically related. cheers, Mlpearc (open channel) 06:45, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
- OK, but music related is not my specialty though! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:42, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you! Sorry for my assumption :P Mlpearc (open channel) 15:41, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks.
Thanks for fixing my stupidity in signing my changes on a policy page. Brain apparently not working in the morning. Hobit (talk) 15:04, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
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Where Sinners Meet/The Dover Road
Hi. I have no issue with discussing this if you wish, other than I'm simply attempting to avoid making work for other editors. Before I open a discussion, I was wondering why you felt that this wasn't cut and dry? All 3 sources in the current article refer to the film by the name Where Sinners Meet (imdb, bfi, and the Perth Daily News). In addition, AFI (and TMC, of course, since they get most of their basic info from AFI), and contemporaneous sources like The Film Daily, Motion Picture Herald, etc. all refer to film by the Sinners title (with the exception of a single reference to it as Where Lovers Meet in Variety). In fact, nowhere is the final film referred to by the Road title (although contemporaneous sources do refer to it by that title during the production phase). So, before I open a general discussion, I was wondering why you felt this wasn't cut and dry? Thanks. Onel5969 TT me 13:25, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- @Onel5969: It was the first few words in the article, where it says the title is "The Dover Road". If you edit this lede to make it look like the real name is "Where Sinners Meet" and how it came to be called the other name later on it would be more convincing. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 20:50, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks. Made the changes. Onel5969 TT me 00:05, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
This CSD was originally declined by me. The user who first tagged the image then went and unlinked it[7] and retagged it. I don't think this deletion was a smart one, nor in keeping with the spirit of G5. Would you reconsider? Magog the Ogre (t • c) 02:09, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
- I have reduced and renamed this. file:Alien (1979) Space Jockey.jpg. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 04:28, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for supporting my RfA
Hawkeye7 RfA Appreciation award | |
Thank you for participating in and supporting my RfA. It was very much appreciated. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:02, 1 February 2016 (UTC) |
Canberra meetup invitation
Hi, you're invited to the Canberra meetup which will take place at King O'Malley's Irish Pub in Civic on 17 February 2016. Bidgee (talk) 01:33, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
List of entertainers who died during a performance
I see you reverted my change and called it irresponsible and provided no proof of said discussion, then proceeded to change the list criteria without discussion. I'm not sure if this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black or what, but a discussion had begun on the talk page of the article which you have taken no part in. I would appreciate you revert yourself and take part in the discussion as you are currently not helping in any way.McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 14:12, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry about the lack of discussion, I was using a small screen when I did that. It makes it hard to edit a lot of pages. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:57, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
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Can you main space this for me? I added the necessary sources, article should be ready. Valoem talk contrib 04:40, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
- You could have submitted it first! Then the tool can do the whole job. However I have moved it for you. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 15:02, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks! I couldn't do that because a redirect blocked the move. Valoem talk contrib 18:15, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
Can you restore to my userspace instead of draft space I am going to finish working on it. Valoem talk contrib 22:59, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
Can you also restore this talk page Talk:Tony Luke's? Valoem talk contrib 04:37, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
Draft Nigel Konstam
Graeme, I believe I have addressed the points you made last on my Konstam draft page, particularly adding a copyright notice linked to that page at reference 2, and sorting the images for CC licence. Please can the submission be reviewed so that it can be promulgated soonest? Tony Thornburn (talk) 21:32, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
- I have submitted it for you. I am not much online at the moment. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 01:19, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
Why did you feel the need to protect that page? No one was violating 3RR or anything.
It is a content dispute. These other editors are trying to hide the fact that gravitational waves have been measured to propagate at the same speed as EM waves. 98.118.36.105 (talk) 04:17, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
There was too much reverting going on. At least there is talk now. I only protected for 24 hours as this should be easily resolvable. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 04:45, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
Adding a Spanish version of my article Meso-zeaxanthin:
Hello, I have a spanish translation of my article that I want to upload to Wikipedia and then link to the english version. Can you advise how I go about this?
Thanks--Macularcarotenoids (talk) 09:32, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
- @Macularcarotenoids: first you will need to know the name in Spanish. if it is the same as English you can click here to create: es:Meso-zeaxanthin. (Otherwise change the name after the :es: to the correct name). Then paste your text into the page. Under the language there whould appear an "add links" like. Click on that and you will be taken to a page that you can add the language entries for the titles. This is on wikiddata which is somewhat different and more restricted. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:33, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
A cup of coffee for you!
Thank you for giving AWB. Regards, Prof TPMS (talk) 00:50, 28 February 2016 (UTC) |
Deletion of Draft: Mahmoud Sabri
Dear Graeme, Thank you for undeleting my article 6 months ago. Unfortunately, I have been critically ill over the last 5 months and now I am getting better. I would like to add new references to the article and resubmit it. Thanks,Y.Sabri Ymsabri (talk) 22:34, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
Deletion review for Einstein syndrome
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Einstein syndrome. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Ylevental (talk) 13:18, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
please userfy+ talk page. Valoem talk contrib 21:37, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
- userfied, but there is no talk. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 03:03, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
- also can you restore the full history plus talk page for Oscar's grind? This is definately notable. Valoem talk contrib 22:24, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
- there are no deleted revisions for Oscar's Grind. Are you sure they exist? Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:54, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
- Oh sorry, I thought they did because the talk page was delete. I think I was wrong. I'm gonna restore H Dice as a contested prod. Valoem talk contrib 04:20, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
- H Dice Game was not deleted via prod, so I don't think moving it back can count as a contest. It was deleted as promotional, so you should attempt to fix that issue. It is not fixed yet. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:58, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
- Oh sorry, I thought they did because the talk page was delete. I think I was wrong. I'm gonna restore H Dice as a contested prod. Valoem talk contrib 04:20, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
Surtees TS16
Hello,
I wonder if you could clarify your recent decision to decline speedy deletion of the draft article Surtees TS16 which has now been 'accepted'. You said that little seemed to have been copied but the copy-vio report said 'violation 93.4% confidence' (report here). Looking at the pink highlighted text in the source and article columns, it is getting close to identical and even the strange prose/tense/capitalisation of the 'original' has been carried over into the article page. In case the link to the copy-vio doesn't work here is a one to the page with the speedy notice in place.
By way of background, the creator of this article is a long-term, IP hopping, possibly well-intentioned, but thoroughly disruptive editor of articles related to the Wiki F1 project. Other editors have spent many hours (understatement) cleaning up his strangely written submissions, but we have only just caught on that they have been C&P from poorly translated foreign websites. In the last week, six other drafts, by the same editor, have been deleted for copy-vio problems. Thanks for any help or comments you can give. Regards, Eagleash (talk) 10:14, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Eagleash: When I look at the purported page copied, http://www.grandprix.com/gpe/rr239.html it looks nothing like what the copyvio report says is there, and nothing like the page written on Wikipedia. So something has gone wrong with the copyvio report somehow. The corenbot report https://tools.wmflabs.org/dupdet/compare.php?url1=https%3A%2F%2Ffanyv88.com%3A443%2Fhttps%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fw%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DSurtees_TS16%26oldid%3D708075944&url2=https%3A%2F%2Ffanyv88.com%3A443%2Fhttp%2Fwww.grandprix.com%2Fgpe%2Frr239.html&minwords=3&minchars=13&removequotations=&removenumbers= shows only things like names are duplicate. Any way SwisterTwister likes to have stuff nominated for deletion, so I can be sure that he also checked out the page for infringement. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:29, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
- OK I see, I think he must have copied directly from the Polish wiki site which I presume is OK if not ideal? I must have missed the 'wiki' part on the highlighted summary results line. Easy mistake to make when you come upon the last in a series of drafts which were, and have been deleted as, copy-vios. I won't comment on the review process generally! Thanks. Regards, Eagleash (talk) 10:48, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
- If he did copy from another compatibly licensed web page or Wiki, then credit needs to be given via a link in an edit summary or talk page. (unless the writer owns the copyright) Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:53, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
- We've been pretty sure that he copies most of what he does, for months, but hadn't got 'proof' as it were. He rarely leaves edit summaries (unless they're abusive), immediately removes any messages on talk pages, if he actually sees them, as the IP changes daily, and hardly ever engages in any sort of discussion. We think he may be very young and that English is not his first language. Anyway, thanks for clarifying. Regards, Eagleash (talk) 11:28, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
- If he did copy from another compatibly licensed web page or Wiki, then credit needs to be given via a link in an edit summary or talk page. (unless the writer owns the copyright) Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:53, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
- OK I see, I think he must have copied directly from the Polish wiki site which I presume is OK if not ideal? I must have missed the 'wiki' part on the highlighted summary results line. Easy mistake to make when you come upon the last in a series of drafts which were, and have been deleted as, copy-vios. I won't comment on the review process generally! Thanks. Regards, Eagleash (talk) 10:48, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
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Decline of Speedy Deletion of Samson and Sons
Hello Admin, I just found that you declined the article which I requested for Speedy Deletion. IE; Samson and Sons. Also I found that you commented by "seems like a big developer, so speedy delete declined". The article is paid article See Talk:Samson and Sons. The article didn't have any reference for stating the importance of that to be encyclopedic, nothing even from Google News, also their website is not working/out of order. If its a big developer their should be some references from any online newspapers reporting about their latest projects and all, as on this case I cannot even find any. Hope you'll revise your decision. Thanks! JackTracker (talk) 12:39, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
- So this should probably be deleted via AFD or prod, but if it is paid prod will likely fail. Lack of stuff in Google search is not a reason to speedy delete, as it might be in Hindi or some other unreadable language. Being paid for is not a speedy delete reason either. How about you start off an AFD. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:44, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
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Removal of CSD for "Pseudo-educational television"
You really think it is likely that anybody will ever type "Pseudo-educational television" into the search box?
...I guess you do, since you removed the CSD tag. I just don't think that anything anybody can think up that can arguably point to an existing article (or section, in this case) should count as a "plausible redirect". It certainly isn't a typo... Jeh (talk) 11:07, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
- Not a typo, but a related concept. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:08, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
- There's a grand total of 7 occurrences of the term in the entire Google index. One of them is the redirect here, all the rest are blogs (two of them are at the same blog). It's a made-up name that a completely negligible number of people have made up and with no RSs for its use. What happened to "Wikipedia is not for things someone made up one day"? I suggest that WP:R#DELETE reason 8 applies. (and that's my last thought on the matter; I won't pester you further.) Jeh (talk) 11:45, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Jeh. In your edit summary while nominating this article for speedy deletion, you noted "redirect created by (so far) vandalism-only account". I created the redirect. Am sure you might not have intended to refer to me as a vandalism only account. I am mentioning it for the record only. And hi Graeme. Thanks for chipping in. See you around (you're doing some absolutely amazing work here - I am your fan). Xender Lourdes (talk) 17:06, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
- You are correct. I'd seen it in BLUKCA (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)'s edit history and assumed they created the redirect. In fact they had created a stub article of that name which you then changed to a redirect. BLUKCA was of course the vandalism-only account I was referring to (it has been blocked twice, the second time indef). My apologies for that confusion. Jeh (talk) 20:17, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Jeh. In your edit summary while nominating this article for speedy deletion, you noted "redirect created by (so far) vandalism-only account". I created the redirect. Am sure you might not have intended to refer to me as a vandalism only account. I am mentioning it for the record only. And hi Graeme. Thanks for chipping in. See you around (you're doing some absolutely amazing work here - I am your fan). Xender Lourdes (talk) 17:06, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
- There's a grand total of 7 occurrences of the term in the entire Google index. One of them is the redirect here, all the rest are blogs (two of them are at the same blog). It's a made-up name that a completely negligible number of people have made up and with no RSs for its use. What happened to "Wikipedia is not for things someone made up one day"? I suggest that WP:R#DELETE reason 8 applies. (and that's my last thought on the matter; I won't pester you further.) Jeh (talk) 11:45, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
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Declined Speedy Deletion of Ajitabha Bose
Hi I had tagged the page under speedy deletion WP:G4 which you declined. However, it seems the deletion discussion exists but under a different name over here Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ajitabh_Bose. Ajitabha Bose and Ajitabh Bose seem to be the same person if you compare the article on simple english wikipedia and the current article. Essentially, the person seems to be notable for only one event. Lemongirl942 (talk) 11:26, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
- Yes that looks to be an AFD for the same person. I won't object if you nominate it, this time pointing to that AFD. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:32, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you. I found the previous Draft:Ajitabha_Bose with AfC rejections as well. Yup, I will nominate it again. Lemongirl942 (talk) 11:35, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
Declined Speedy Deletion of List of protected areas of British Columbia
Hi there. Can you explain what you are looking for here? Are you saying that this should be a PROD? I thought my rationale was legitimate, and don't see how the tag should be removed while a discussion is going on. --Natural RX 14:23, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
- The tag was added twice. Second time not waiting for a discussion. I noticed no other admins doing the move after being tagged for many hours, so I took the tag off a second time Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:12, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
Csd decline
I'd say this was too bureaucratic. 103.6.159.91 (talk) 17:19, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
- These rules were only negotiated very recently, so if it was 6 months instead of a year the consensus should have said that. The point is that you can ask the user what they want to do about the page, and they might respond. Put it in your calendar to nominate in another 4 months. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:11, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
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Please block user:177.142.93.135. He keeps reverting GAB's contributions. 2602:306:3357:BA0:5CAA:B9AF:7C32:F625 (talk) 02:53, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
Atishaya Kshetra Lunwa
Hi Graeme, I have posted my response for above topic Request for Undeletion page ,kindly have a look and restore the page. Let me know in case of anything. Navbindaas (talk) 03:39, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
Tri-Cities, Telangana
@Graeme Bartlett: Need some info on this edit. I didn't get others seems to use it. Could you explain?--Vin09 (talk) 03:13, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Vin09: I did an internet search, and there seems to be some minor use of the term, so it needs a bit more checking than just a guess that the writer made it up. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 03:28, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
- 2011 Census of India do not have any such settlement in Telangana state. Also, the two other places which there was mention Hanamakonda and Kazipet are not cities., but only Warangal is a city. So, where is the concept of Tricity. Both the former towns were merged in in Greater Warangal Municipal Corporation.--Vin09 (talk) 03:33, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
Same kind of page was redirected.--Vin09 (talk) 03:36, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
- So if there is any sensible target, you can redirect this, otherwise I think a prod will do. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 04:02, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you.--Vin09 (talk) 04:07, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
Majithia Sirdars speedy deletion
Hello. you declined speedy deletion for Majithia Sirdars. This article seems to be recreation of an old article that was AFDed. [1]. Has anything been added in the discussion around article since then that I may not not aware of? The newly created article still has mostly primary references and no coverage in the media as a family. Do you suggest another AFD ? ChunnuBhai (talk) 06:51, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
- The text is completely rewritten, but covers the same ground in the same style. Of the references, one is common, but in the deleted version all references would be counted unreliable. In the new copy two references seem to be written by one of the subjects and so are not independent. G4 is stretching it a bit, but I would support an AFD. The reasons would be the same, that the individuals may be notable, but the group is not. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 07:01, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
References
Please userfy both and talk page. He is a very notable streamer. Valoem talk contrib 10:43, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
- Not done for Sodapoppin, it is just attack, and or vandalism. You may as well write it yourself from scratch.Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:47, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
- Chance Morris is not as bad, but still dubiously containing entirely unsourced statements perhaps written by a friend. When I look to confirm information online, I only find unreliable sources. So this too needs some researching. Sample text : "Chance is an extremely famous twitch user, and has more than 900,000 followers. Chance is so called the worlds "#1 Virgin". Chance is also very famous on Youtube, having over 100,000,000 views, And over 500,000 subs. In lots of peoples opinion chance is the funniest guy in the world. In fact he probably is. Chance enjoys playing many games. He is probably most known for WoW, or World of Warcraft. He also plays stuff like Blackjack, and H1Z1." credit to user:Kieran Bowers. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:00, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
- Nothing useable? Valoem talk contrib 11:04, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
- The problem is that the revision contains some attack like text (negative BLP) So I only want to copy the best bit above for you. There are no sources. The second best bit of text is: "Twitch live streamer and popular Youtuber also known as Sodapoppin who creates comedy and gaming content. Before Fame His first video upload to YouTube came on June 20, 2012. It was titled "Sodapoppin Playing Amnesia 2." Trivia He surpassed 750,000 followers on Twitch in April of 2015. He also had more than 330,000 YouTube subscribers and more than 100,000 Twitter followers at that time. ... often posts videos about his dogs. He likes to attach GoPros to their head." credit to user:Kieran Bowers. What else is left I don't want to put online as it is in the negative BLP class or possible OR. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:09, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
- Nothing useable? Valoem talk contrib 11:04, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
Gozo national football team
Hi, I believe the decision to delete this page must be reviewed in light of evidence that was probably not presented earlier. This team indeed existed at some point. It organized the VIVA World Cup, which seems to be a notable event based on the number of pages that cover/reference it. Correct me if wrong, but this seems to be the only national team that has been deleted after having established itself by participating in the VIVA World Cup event. Information about the team is available from the RSSSF, which is one of the most reliable sources on football: [8].
I believe the page should be reinstated. I will work on including relevant information from the RSSSF on the article in order to establish notability. Ladril (talk) 17:16, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
- OK @Ladril:, I have made this a draft at Draft:Gozo national football team with all the previous deleted versions. See if you can make this into a suitable page. I will protect the page against recreation, so that it can be reviewed against AFD first. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:48, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'll get to it real soon. Ladril (talk) 02:45, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Can you userfy this and talk page? Valoem talk contrib 18:51, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
- Does this topic have a claim of importance or notability. From the only independent reference, she has been watched on youtube a lot because of nip slip. Has something changed in the last 2 years?
- Copies of content are here http://deletionpedia.org/en/Jenny_Scordamaglia and here http://wpedia.goo.ne.jp/enwiki/Jenny_Scordamaglia do you want either of these pages, or do you want to start from scratch? Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:09, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
- I have many new sources, you know I like to keep history full intact, I also would like to see what condition the article was in. Valoem talk contrib 23:55, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! I went ahead and added 5 new sources so the content is now different and a new AfD maybe required. I removed the self-published sources and added secondary sources in both English and Spanish, I think this should pass GNG now, can you move it to the main space? Valoem talk contrib 02:35, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- I think it still does not have much a claim of importance. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 03:09, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Can we give it a shot? I can ping the person who listed it in AfD if desired. Also I am pretty sure the WP:COMMONNAME for The Borgata is Borgata, I would recommend moving it there. Valoem talk contrib 03:15, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Ask the AFD initiator and closer if they think it will pass. I don't think the text is much more advanced, even if referencing is better. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 03:32, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Can we give it a shot? I can ping the person who listed it in AfD if desired. Also I am pretty sure the WP:COMMONNAME for The Borgata is Borgata, I would recommend moving it there. Valoem talk contrib 03:15, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
User:MuwTent/Dune2 The Golden Path
You deleted my page without any warning, can I at least get the content I posted ? Or perhaps you can undelete it. MuwTent (talk) 13:38, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi Graeme, thanks for the undeletion .. I realise now how little I had done with that page. Please go ahead with the deletion. Kind Regards MuwTent (talk) 23:27, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
I knew that wasn't an A7! Not sure where promotional came from though; it was A11 not G11. EDIT: I see someone mistakenly tagged it G11 instead of A11. Adam9007 (talk) 00:42, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
- but since it is only on social media, I think it does need deleting. We need AFD to give a real result, not just short circuited. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:48, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
- Nothing irritates me more than someone insisting something's an A7 when it obviously is not (usually due to the scope). That's happened to me several times. I've seen computer programs classed as web content, and sometimes even as businesses! Then the nominator moans when I change or remove the tag. I think people confuse speedy deletion with snow deletion. Adam9007 (talk) 01:02, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
- I support your sentiment. It is either due to ignorance, or pushing the boundary of what was agreed. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 01:05, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
- Adam9007 - To be fair everyone makes mistakes here, I was convinced it was A7 material but I was wrong and I probably shouldn't of reverted you considering I wasn't entirely sure myself ..... oh and I apologize for then adding G11 instead of A11 .... Just don't ask! . –Davey2010Talk 01:10, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
- Hopefully people do not stay irritated. When I have a speedy deletion binge, there are nearly always some that have mistaken reason, but I cannot afford to be stressed or annoyed about it. I am not giving Davey any kind of trout or warning, showing how relaxed I am about this case. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 01:14, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Davey2010: Yeah I wasn't 100% about A11 either. I thought if any speedy criterion applied, it would be that. Adam9007 (talk) 01:16, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Graeme Bartlett: In my experience, sometimes it's the former, sometimes it's the latter. Adam9007 (talk) 01:16, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
- Hopefully people do not stay irritated. When I have a speedy deletion binge, there are nearly always some that have mistaken reason, but I cannot afford to be stressed or annoyed about it. I am not giving Davey any kind of trout or warning, showing how relaxed I am about this case. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 01:14, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
- Nothing irritates me more than someone insisting something's an A7 when it obviously is not (usually due to the scope). That's happened to me several times. I've seen computer programs classed as web content, and sometimes even as businesses! Then the nominator moans when I change or remove the tag. I think people confuse speedy deletion with snow deletion. Adam9007 (talk) 01:02, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Dear Graeme,
I had created page of notable flutist Pandit Rupak Kulkarni and I noticed it is deleted. Could you help me to review the article again so that it is accepted ?
Regards, Amit — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiuser music (talk • contribs) 01:55, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Yarmush
You beat me to it - I'd just seen the talk page note and was coming to the article to deprod it and add a source (I'd seen the page history so was aware that the original editor had stripped the page down on the instructions of the subject). Does an inconclusive AfD actually trump lack of references for a BLP created after 2010? I've never seen that suggested. Strange case, anyway, but I've added a ref. PamD 08:38, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
- I left the references tag on, but just AFD trumps prod. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:36, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi Graeme, With Regards to the page: Aaron Enrico dos Santos, I am writing to you as i have seen this individual in the newspapers and have physical copies of it.
Secondly,He can be found in the CBF website which i had taken a picture of. That is the official database from the country nothing independent.
Thirdly, he has documents from Fifa regarding his transfers. There are pictures of him in the official kit of the aforementioned teams. and in the lineup as well.
Please, reverse this process as you clearly are unaware of all these factors.
If you would like to see the above mentioned material please feel free to message me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luanne.N (talk • contribs) 13:37, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi Graeme, With Regards to the page: Aaron Enrico dos Santos, I am writing to you as i have seen this individual in the newspapers and have physical copies of it.
Secondly,He can be found in the CBF website which i had taken a picture of. That is the official database from the country nothing independent.
Thirdly, he has documents from Fifa regarding his transfers. There are pictures of him in the official kit of the aforementioned teams. and in the lineup as well.
Please, reverse this process as you clearly are unaware of all these factors.
If you would like to see the above mentioned material please feel free to message me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luanne.N (talk • contribs) 13:50, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
hi
Hi Graeme, With Regards to the page: Aaron Enrico dos Santos, I am writing to you as i have seen this individual in the newspapers and have physical copies of it.
Secondly,He can be found in the CBF website which i had taken a picture of. That is the official database from the country nothing independent.
Thirdly, he has documents from Fifa regarding his transfers. There are pictures of him in the official kit of the aforementioned teams. and in the lineup as well.
Please, reverse this process as you clearly are unaware of all these factors.
If you would like to see the above mentioned material please feel free to message me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luanne.N (talk • contribs) 15:46, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Userfy + talk please. Valoem talk contrib 16:50, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Valoem: Restored and deproded, see Asia Poker. there is no talk. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 03:10, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
Aaron Enrico dos Santos
Hi Graeme could you please explain to me why my page was deleted? Also if i need more references. I have found this person in the database of CBF (confederacao Brasileira de Futebol),which is the official governing body of football for alll brazilian players. But i made a mistake as i thought i put in that link as well. I will be sure to put it in. Also could you please help me by telling me how i could use newspaper prints as references if need be. If you think that i need to re-edit/redo everything please delete the page and i will start it all over again. Thank you so much for your time and helping me learn more. ```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Masha.Ukraina (talk • contribs) 02:46, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
Aaron Enrico dos Santos.
Hi Graeme, Thank you for the reply. I have some info/questions that i need your assistance of greatly:
- He has in fact played for those clubs as i have access to his official documents. i.e contracts/official registration papers from various associations as well as FIFA.
- I have pictures of him in lineups before the game and have videos of him training with the entire team.
- Also I have friends who are professional players and they themselves, like this player(Enrico),don't have wikipedia pages.
- I have spoken to a Licensed Fifa agent yesterday to enquire about this and he said that wikipedia is not the database they use for player background checks.
- Nor do they use other public online databases.
- They have their own intraweb which they access and they always use the ITC (international transfer certificate)to determine where the player has been. It is the only OFFICIAL thing they use. Working always between official Governing bodies in the sport on a national level not even state.
- He has also stated that many people charge athletes for creating their pages.
- This agent happens to be an ex-player who has played at the highest level and manages/managed top flight players.
- He himself does not have a wikipedia page.
- He has been in the business for more than 25 years.
please let me know what your thoughts are and how we can rectify this.
Thanks ```` @Graeme Bartlett: Thanks so much Graeme, Please delete the entire thing and ill start a fresh new one in the sandbox and have you look at it. ```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luanne.N (talk • contribs) 03:47, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Luanne.N: @Masha.Ukraina: I have restored this to Draft:Aaron Enrico dos Santos. Note that photos and videos from social websites would not be counted as reliable unless they come from an official club or league organisation. Your next steps should be to supply references that prove the person has played at the top levels in these clubs. This can include newspapers. Note that the web sites listed in the draft are not convincing. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 03:55, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
- Hi, as the one who proposed the article for deletion, I thought I would drop a line. I did consider at the time that the article was hoax (or at least not truthful), since I couldn't find any substantial reliable information on a player that was supposed to be at Ajax, Fulham, Bayern and scouted by Barcelona and Inter. That just seemed too far fetched. I also found a Norwegian article [9] on Santos, who arrived in Norway with glowing references (Ajax, Fulham and even Arsenal thrown in), which, according to the article turned out to be fake or at least wild overstatements.
- Looking at it now, I come to believe that there was at least a grain of truth in the article and I should not have proposed a deletion as a complete hoax. This (although can not be used as a reliable source) seems to at least suggest that he did play one off-season game for Fulham XI (should not be considered the same as Fulham, since it included players on trial and not signed). However, I think that the first task now is to show, with reliable references, that the player meets WP:NFOOTBALL, i.e., "played in a fully professional league". He doesn't appear to have played in the league for Fulham, Bayern, Arsenal or Ajax. If Masha.Ukraina has newspaper sources that establish this level notability, then the article definitely has a place on Wikipedia and we can help improve it and make it neutral. No longer a penguin (talk) 09:51, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
@Graeme Bartlett: Hi Graeme,thanks for looking further really appreciate it! Firstly, I have managed to reach his Manager and just to let you know, The individuals who had written/published articles that were not authorized by the above mentioned athlete has in fact been sued for misrepresentation, false publication and defamation. And they won the case against them. No interview was ever given on the players part nor did he allow any photo to be taken of him for publication. His manager works with some very big named players that i am not at liberty to mention as I agreed to a NDA(non-disclosure agreement) As far as they are concern, anyone who defames the athlete, claiming he is a hoax will be liable to a defamation lawsuit against them. And he assures me that they never lose. As i have been advised, evidence that is found online does not hold up in court as opposed to official documents. All that matters is that he is on the relevant databases such as CBF and Fifa and is in fact a professional footballer. Other databases are privately run organizations and do not affiliate legally or officially with those sport governing bodies. So everything that any website can say doesn't matter. All that matters in the eyes of the court is that he is an official registered player and where his player pass has been. It would be worse for any individual not officially involved in this field of expertise as they would also be liable for a defamation suit as it shows that the person is maliciously intending harm toward the athletes reputation. I was also advised to be careful with you as they are doing a full check up now on this and the individuals concerned. Quick Note: As per wikipedia tutorial guidelines, the minimum threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia material is governed by the principle of verifiability.- not by the truth. In other words, it is essential that it is possible to establish whether the information that was entered in the text of the page identifies where it comes from, irrespective of whether or not certain information submitted by such a source is true.
To help ease tensions, i have said that you are helping me. If you need to reach me on a personal level please let me know. thanks ````
@Graeme Bartlett: Hi Graeme, could you please delete Aaron Enrico dos Santos page completely so that I can start a fresh new one. ````
- I have deleted the draft. Remember that Wikipedia is based on published sources. So if there is nothing published we can say nothing. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:14, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
@Graeme Bartlett: Hello Graeme, the page is still up, can you please delete de entire page? I would like to start a new one. Thank you. ````
- Are you talking about User:Masha.Ukraina/sandbox? If you are User:Masha.Ukraina then I can delete that page. But you can also just blank it yourself. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:19, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
Category:Petroleum companies of Russia
Thank you mentioning it. Yes, {{db-author}} was mistake and I should to use {{db-g7}} instead. However, it does not change the fact that this should be speedy deleted as the author themselves almost immediately empted this newly created category and redirected its only parent category which was also newly created. It was clear that the category was created accidentally and keeping it was not the intention of the author. I think that reviewing request should be not only formal but also should take into account the content of the issue. However, also another editor nominated this category for speedy deletion, so I hope the issue could be solved now. Thank you. Beagel (talk) 06:32, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Beagel: db-g7 is not right either, as you are guessing the intention of the creator. Instead use {{db-catempty}} which is a C1 reason. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 07:02, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
- {{db-catempty}} is not the best solution for a recent and obvious mistake as its says "have been unpopulated for at least four days." Why to leave it stay for the four days if it is obvious mistake just duplicating the existing category, and nobody will not populate it (at least nobody who as understanding of the categorization system). I fully agree that we should have rules and follow the rules, but we have to have also common sense. Anyway, do you please will delete this category based on your own suggestion (if I understand you correctly, you are not opposing the need to delete it but you are opposing the rationale). Beagel (talk) 13:03, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
Moved without closing
Talk:Everybody_Wants_Some!!_(film)#Requested_move_12_March_2016 — Film Fan 12:39, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
- closed. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 20:38, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
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Dear Graeme,
Thanks for putting my article under draft status. Based on your suggestions I have used the references from other websites, news and also removed the words which were as per the guidelines.
Could you please review article and approve ?
Let me know if you have any questions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Rupak_Kulkarni
Thanks and regards, Amit wikiuser_music — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiuser music (talk • contribs) 13:01, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
Graeme, I'm going to ask you to reconsider your G12 decline at Draft:Saudis in USA Organization. I think it's clear that it is a copyright violation but without evidence of permission, policy is to delete it not let it be debated. It is an organization and we don't necessarily know that the editor actually has permission from the organization itself to use its own text for this draft. We shouldn't presume anything about copyright violations and if put in mainspace, people will TNT it and take it out anyways. Other than one editor, the MFD discussion is also noting the copyright violation. Unfortunately the copyright goes to the first edit so there's nothing to keep. If someone there thinks the topic is notable, as discussed, a single stub can be created. I think deleting all versions and restarting with a single stub is a better solution to leaving it to the whim of an MFD discussion that could go anywhere. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 20:12, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
- I always think an MFD or AFD discussion overrides any speedy delete decision. THey should consider the question of proof of copyright ownership. But of course we cannot force people to consider it. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:02, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
Draft:Rupak Kulkarni
Dear Graeme,
Thanks for moving page (Rupak Kulkarni) in draft status. With reference to your suggestions I have edited the contents and also provided external references of the artist.
Could you please review it and let me know improvisations needed or if it is in accordance with your expectations?
Best Regards, Amit wikiuser_music Wikiuser music (talk) 07:59, 21 March 2016 (UTC) wikiuser_music
Draft:Rupak Kulkarni
Dear Graeme,
I have made changes per your suggestion on words and also added references to the article to show the source of article.
Please review and let me know the comments.
Best regards, Amit wikiuser_music Wikiuser music (talk) 07:04, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
Sorry to bug you but
I just want to make sure you saw this. That should not have been undeleted... Jytdog (talk) 06:27, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
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ServerAxis
Since you speedy deleted ServerAxis, the extended outage and its impact on other sites and fields of interest, including reporting of the 2016 NCAA Women's Division I Basketball Tournament, has been covered by multiple major sources. Could you please restore it so that information can be added? At the very least, it no longer qualifies for A7 speedy deletion. If you think it's still not notable, you can take it to AfD, but it's clearly above the speedy delete standard at this point. Smartyllama (talk) 20:32, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Smartyllama: I restored it. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:06, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks. I added in the information using the citations.Smartyllama (talk) 17:23, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
corrections made as suggested
Dear Graeme,
I have made changes per your suggestion on words and also added references to the article to show the source of article.
Please review and let me know the comment to article Rupak Kulkarni
Best regards, Amit wikiuser_music Wikiuser music Wikiuser music (talk) 17:22, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
waiting for your input
Dear Gareme,
Waiting for your input on.my article Rupak Kulkarni.
can you please reply? thanks
Wikiuser music (talk) 16:28, 5 April 2016 (UTC) wikiuser_music
- There is still too much WP:Peacock language in there trying to make the subject sound better. Can you write in more neutral language? Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:49, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
Spambot
Another one for you. First time on EnWiki that I've ever seen a spambot make it past the edit filters and into an article. Passengerpigeon (talk) 09:17, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
- I think it must be straight out vandalism, with a human clicking the save despite warning button. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 13:04, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
How Are You, In reply To My Undelete Request Above At https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion#https:.2F.2Fen.wikipedia.org.2Fwiki.2FPhillip_Allen_Hall_III_2 I Was Asked To Rewrite My Article, But I'm Unable To Edit Or Correct My WiKi Page At https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillip_A_Hall_III Due To It Only Able To Be Created By A Administrator Like You. So, Can You Please Create My WiKi Page With My References Such As My News Article At http://SilverScreenMag.PHILLIPHALL.INFO & Bio At http://www.PHILLIPHALL.INFO/Bio.php My Photo Can Be Seen & Downloaded On My Website With Exact Link At http://www.philliphall.info/images/f6a5ec9bd072e0ebe47a93ada55064d4_zlxo.jpg All *Copyrights Are Public & Are Able To Be Used. Thanks Again!
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My External Links Are Below
- [10] IMDB
- [11] Official FaceBook
- [12] Official Twitter
- [13] Official Reverbnation
- [14] Official YouTube
My Category Is Should Be Actor
And My Info Box Should Be Coded As Below With The Image Downloaded At
Phillip A. Hall III | |
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[[File:Located At [15]|frameless|upright=1]] | |
Born | Phillip Allen Hall III 04/04/1984 Seattle, Washington |
Nationality | African American, Canadian, Indian |
Other names | Slant, Phillip Hall, Phillip Hall III, Phil Hall III, Phillip Allen |
Occupation(s) | Actor, Model, Music Artist |
Organization | SAG-AFTRA |
Known for | Staring In & Made Front Cover Of The Short "Familiar's Reach" Where He Played A Ghost. |
Notable credit(s) | Jason Bourne, Any Body Can Dance 2, The Trust & More On His IMDB |
Relatives | Jimi Hendrix, Sheila Lambert |
Website | www.PhillipHall.Info |
My References Are Below
References
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Can you merge the two histories under Female suicide bombers? Valoem talk contrib 15:23, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
- There have been a couple of discussionsabout tbhis on the talk pages. So please reconsider the name you want it at. A merge seems like a good idea. But on my first attempt I got a database error. Hopefully it is not corrupted. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 04:05, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Sorry about that, when I filed an AfD it automatically brought back up the archived discussion and put the new one at the bottom. Didn't realize it was a different topic. How do I start a new AfD without it pulling in the old one again? JamesG5 (talk) 01:39, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
- No problems, it is hard for non admins to tell if the article differs from the deleted version. You can do a WP:prod or make Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Solutionary (2nd nomination). eg see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gay Nigger Association of America (18th nomination). Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:42, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Please allow me to criticize your deletion of G11. For one, it is clearly spam, and even if it might be repairable no one intends to repair it. More importantly, it has no notability claim, and can also be deleted under A7. Please comment. WannaBeEditor (talk) 03:47, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
- I think that A7 or a prod could result in deletion. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:28, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Copyvio?
Hi! You wrote here "please check for copyvio". I'd already done that, removed what I found, and requested revdeletion, so I wondered what you saw that was still of concern. This doesn't seem to show anything to worry about. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:50, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
- It is good there is no copyvio. Just with that style of text, it is likely. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:12, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Speedy-question
You deleted Sandhya Koushika based on a tagging of A7. But the article credibly asserts that she won a notable-sounding award and further that she was notable in some way among that pool. Not sure she'd survive AFD based on this claim alone, but I'm following up on a spate of uncertain tagging by a new page-currator. DMacks (talk) 17:44, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
- OK my action is reversed and I have restored the article. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:56, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
check my recents
the issue is much wider. there is an H in there JarrahTree 00:55, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
- You have a couple of delete noms that you also want to rename, should the delete proposals be removed? Graeme Bartlett (talk) 01:02, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
- you have mail, and the issue continues JarrahTree 00:34, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- Yes - I really meant earlier interactions in WP:AGF and received no reply, then the AFD has the personal issue. JarrahTree 01:12, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
Removed the WP content
Hi Graeme,
Thanks again for getting back. I have further removed the content which does not appear to be neutral. Could you please check and confirm ?
Regards, Amit wikiuser_music Wikiuser music (talk) 07:30, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
- This Draft:Rupak Kulkarni is starting to look a lot better now. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 07:39, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
Chagos Islands national football team
Thanks for doing that - can I just ask, once I've finished the writing, how do I change it from being a draft to a full article? Hammersfan (talk) 08:30, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
- It is best to ask the deleting admin if you have addressed the issues raised in the AFD. But the basic action is the move button to rename it without the "Draft:" prefix. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:05, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
next steps :rupak kulkarni
Thanks for the feedback Graeme. So may I know if it will be released soon ?
regards, Amit wikiuser_music Wikiuser music (talk) 09:08, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
- I have added the AFC submission template for you. If you don't want it there , please remove it. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:36, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
Hey Graeme Bartlett,
It turned out that the main file this one was a redundant copy of was a copyvio (deleted F9). So this one is also. You got to it before I could change it from F1 to F9. Could you delete it? The F9 reasoning was that it was a copyrighted album cover and was being used on a draft for the artist so fair use would not apply (plus it would also fail NFCC #9 since it was in draftspace). Thanks! --Majora (talk) 23:13, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
- OK it's gone, but usually for unused non free we wait a little while to see if it is going to be used. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:57, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
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DELETION OF LONDON STEVERSON ARTICLE, TAG?
Greetings Graeme Bartlett - My apologies for creating an article London Steverson on a subject that had already been deleted per a discussion. Normally, when you attempt to create such an article a tag first appears letting you know that an article of that name has already been deleted. Such a tag does not appear when you do a Wikipedia search for London Steverson. The editor is simply informed that no article on London Steverson exists, but that the editor can create one. DO YOU KNOW HOW WE CAN TAG LONDON STEVERSON LIKE DELETED ARTICLES ON OTHER SUBJECTS, SO AN ARTICLE ON HIM IS NOT AGAIN CREATED IN FUTURE? Steverson does have some relation to US Coast Guard Academy and African American history, being one of the first 3 African American Graduates of the Academy and the first such graduate to retire from the service, so it is likely that otherwise the article shall be created again in future. I have now researched the history, and the article has already been twice again created since its original deletion in 2010. I was also unaware of the controversy related to Steverson's service as an administrative law judge.Albiet (talk)Albiet
- (talk page watcher) Actually, London Steverson is tagged as having been deleted. An all-caps version (LONDON STEVERSON) is not, because that wouldn't be a proper BLP article title format. --| Uncle Milty | talk | 19:48, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- I am sorry, but when I type London Steverson (which is how the deleted article was of course titled, not in caps) into the Wikipedia search box, I still don't see any tag. Again, the page that appears simply states that the article can be created, so I AM STILL REQUESTING OF GRAEME BARTLETT THAT HE PROVIDE INFORMATION TO ME ON MATTER, IF HE IS ABLE. Am I missing something?Albiet (talk)Albiet
- Graeme Bartlett - PLEASE DISREGARD THE ABOVE. IT APPEARS THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY TAGGED THE ARTICLE AS PREVIOUSLY DELETED. AS I NOTED WHEN I CREATED THE LAST ARTICLE, THIS TAG WAS NOT PRESENT. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT I COULD HAVE MISSED IT, BUT I DON'T SEE HOW, IT IS QUITE PROMINENT. THANK YOU.Albiet (talk)Albiet
- @Albiet: It is also possible to Salt an article so that it cannot be created. However in this sort of case it is not needed as it is not recreated many many times. Also if you think there is new information that make having this topic worthwhile, you can write a Draft:London Steverson article (or I can restore the content to that name) and then have a WP:Deletion review to consider if the article should now exist. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:32, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- Graeme Bartlett - Thank you for your response and the information, but I agree with you that more drastic measures than the tag are likely unnecessary. Again, it is possible that in haste I just overlooked an earlier tag, and I doubt too that many other editors are likely to do this. I don't have any new information on the subject either. I just thought based on his connection to the Academy's history and African American history firsts that he warranted a brief article, but the community has already debated the matter and disagrees, and there also seems to be some controversy associated with the former LTCD Steverson. Anyway, thank you for your courtesy in responding to me.Albiet (talk)Albiet
- @Albiet: It is also possible to Salt an article so that it cannot be created. However in this sort of case it is not needed as it is not recreated many many times. Also if you think there is new information that make having this topic worthwhile, you can write a Draft:London Steverson article (or I can restore the content to that name) and then have a WP:Deletion review to consider if the article should now exist. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:32, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- Graeme Bartlett - PLEASE DISREGARD THE ABOVE. IT APPEARS THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY TAGGED THE ARTICLE AS PREVIOUSLY DELETED. AS I NOTED WHEN I CREATED THE LAST ARTICLE, THIS TAG WAS NOT PRESENT. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT I COULD HAVE MISSED IT, BUT I DON'T SEE HOW, IT IS QUITE PROMINENT. THANK YOU.Albiet (talk)Albiet
- I am sorry, but when I type London Steverson (which is how the deleted article was of course titled, not in caps) into the Wikipedia search box, I still don't see any tag. Again, the page that appears simply states that the article can be created, so I AM STILL REQUESTING OF GRAEME BARTLETT THAT HE PROVIDE INFORMATION TO ME ON MATTER, IF HE IS ABLE. Am I missing something?Albiet (talk)Albiet
Please move Marine (Doom) to Doomguy
This move was done by a banned editor User:Fangusu Sources such as Game Informer suggest Doomguy is common name. Valoem talk contrib 07:18, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
- Northamerica1000 has done this. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:12, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
Vandalising other work
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Continuous flow of electric current
Are you sure that the current would exist a few days if you have zinc and copper immersed in an electrolyte without the aid of an external voltage?JUSTIN JOHNS (talk) 06:51, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
- @JUSTIN JOHNS: This of course depends on how big the zinc plate is and what the electrolyte is, and whether oxygen is getting into the liquid, and how much current the circuit draws. For the zinc-carbon cell with zinc chloride electrolyte, it may output 1000 mAH. So to run 100 hours (about 4 days) you have to draw less than 10 milliamps. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:05, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
@Graeme Bartlett:Okay.I would like to know if we have :
- Zinc
- Copper
- Oxygen or air
- Electrolyte(Nacl or K2SO4 etc)
Can we produce a current for 4 days without the aid of an external voltage?
Size of zinc plate is not a problem but I would like to know if we need any other materials — Preceding unsigned comment added by JUSTIN JOHNS (talk • contribs) 06:28, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
- @JUSTIN JOHNS: You are going to have to have a container too, and instead of copper, carbon is a better choice, and often manganese dioxide will be used as well. Read Zinc–carbon battery, and Leclanché cell and Zinc–air battery to see what your options are. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:01, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
@Graeme Bartlett:Yeah thanks for that.I'll try the experiment indeed.JUSTIN JOHNS (talk) 10:13, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Using Photo
User Gogo212121 Hello Graeme Bartlett Can I upload photos to Wikipedia from this site http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/ Gogo212121 (talk) 07:07, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi Graeme. WRT my upload of the Michael Goldberg photo. It has been used royalty-free fairly widely. What sort of documentation do you require that the photographer is cool with this and freely licenses it?
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Marysdogs (talk) 16:51, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
Symbol declined.svg File upload request declined. We cannot use non free photos to illustrate living people. Please supply a freely licensed photo for this use. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 07:49, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
Marysdogs (talk) 01:06, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Marysdogs: The kind of license we need is a CC-BY-SA-3.0 or there are a number of others that allow use for any purpose and modifications. You can prove this by having the photographer put the license text on the website where the image is published, or you can follow the procedure at WP:PERMIT sending an email from the official email address to the OTRS team who can confirm it is genuine. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 01:13, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! Marysdogs (talk) 01:55, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
@Graeme Bartlett:I've made the section more clearer.JUSTIN JOHNS (talk) 06:33, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
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UserGogo212121 hello Graeme Bartlett of what license to upload the photo to not delete Gogo212121 (talk) 11:08, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Gogo212121: CC-BY-SA-3.0 or CC-BY-3.0 (or other versions) (both of these require attribution would could be the name of a photographer, or company) CC-0 (just about every right released) (if you are in USA you can do public domain). Read Wikipedia:File copyright tags. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:51, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
FFD closes
Hi Graeme Bartlett. I see you've been working through the backlog at FFD and closing some old discussions. There are many admins willing to wade through the thick weeds of FFD to sort everything out so thank you for doing that. I have a suggestion though. Perhaps it might be a good idea to link to the relevant FFD discussion in your edit sum when you remove a file to prevent stuff like this in which you were almost immediately reverted. It might also be helpful to add {{oldffdfull}} to the file talk pages with an explanation of your close, so that anyone checking can find the link to the relevant discussion. FWIW, i was going to jump in a re-remove the file form Iran national football team, but it might be better if you do since you are the closing admin. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:27, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
- I have deleted the redirect which seems to have made the appearance vanish. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:47, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
- I saw that and thank you for doing that. Someone might still add File:Football Federation Islamic Republic of Iran.png to the team articles, so it might help to add the "oldffdfull" to the file's talk page with a link to the FFD discussion. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:02, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
You wrote "no consensus to delete" but what about the other concerns? That is, removal from a subset of the pages. --Stefan2 (talk) 11:52, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
- The discussion is a bit inconclusive as to amount of use, but I subsequently removed it from Young British Artists as it does look excessive. This does not need admin action to change so feel free to readd it if you want to. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:05, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
Contest prod. Valoem talk contrib 20:21, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Valoem: restored, it needs a lot of work! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:52, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
- Thx can I get the talk page too? Valoem talk contrib 22:07, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
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Deletion of Lithuania national beach soccer team
Hi Graeme, you recently deleted this page I created. You deleted it because it was a "Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion". It is true it was a recreation, however the deletion discussion of the original article in 2015 claimed that since Lithuania had not played in international competitions, it was not noteable and should be deleted. However as I pointed out on the talk page when it was nominated for speedy deletion this time around, the original discussion is not true at all, Lithuania competed internationally in the 2008 FIFA World Cup qualifiers as well as other internationals I listed, unlike the original 2015 article which did not mention any of this. Therefore I believe it is justified to be reinstated. The Lithuanian Football Federation and Beach Soccer Worldwide, beach soccer's governing body, has the teams documented on their website also. Thanks. TurboGUY (talk) 13:25, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
- @TurboGUY: I restored this to Draft:Lithuania national beach soccer team while you ask about this at WP:DRV. The 2008 FIFA World Cup qualifiers was before the AFD so hopefully voters where aware of that. Anyway DRV should get a fresh set of opinions and people that might know about the topic. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:52, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
The absurd redirect
I apologize for mis-tagging it as recently-created. I've tagged it again as G6 as it would clearly be an uncontroversial deletion since it's an orphaned redirect with no traffic and an absurdly long search query with superfluous punctuation. Feedback 13:55, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
- It is best not to delete. When I do a google search, I can see this exact piece of text is actually in use by Wikipedia mirrors, and so it is required for attribution. Removing it it cause copyright infringement. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:59, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
Speedy Deletion
Hi Graeme, please note that Hui'annan Railway Station and Quanzhou agricultural school are created by Dsfsswec's sockpuppets. For technicality's sake, Dsfsswec is blocked and globally locked; the sock that created those articles is locked as well. Therefore I think those should be tagged again. -Mys_721tx (talk) 22:07, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
- OK now deleted, I can now see the account is locked. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:10, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
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Nickelate
Thanks for listening about the nickelate article. Apologies if I came across as snotty, my default mode sometimes. It is a welcome article and the community is grateful to you. --Smokefoot (talk) 02:33, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks @Smokefoot:, I need feedback to keep going right. From Sciencedirect I had 1400 matches against "nickelate", and another indexing services seem to think I want nickel when I type nickelate, which doesn't help me. Anyway do you have a recommendation for an inorganic compound class article for me to work on next? Graeme Bartlett (talk) 04:01, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
- Similar topics we don't have yet are niobate 11102, ruthenate 1589, perruthenate 844, rhodate 163, palladate324 , osmate 903, platinate 893, iridate 242, bismuthate 1570 (counts are sciencedirect papers mentioning the word) Graeme Bartlett (talk) 07:30, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, confusing as heck. The materials folks use "ate" to mean oxides. Cuprates such as [CuMe2]- are a big deal in organic synthesis and 1-2-3 YBa2Cu3Ox is a big deal in the materials area. Maybe some book has an discussion. I checked Goldbook for nickelate but there was nothing. It mentions cuprate "...an organocuprate Li+[CuMe2]− lithium dimethylcuprate ..." (http://goldbook.iupac.org/O04328.html). I am traveling and cant really help for a while. --Smokefoot (talk) 14:29, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
Can I upload this picture on Wikipedia
Gogo212121 (talk) 11:22, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
this picture http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/celebritymicro/images/id/171/category/parties/type/view/imageid/18035037/ --Gogo212121 (talk) 11:23, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
What is on the picture? Is it connected with the article.Xx236 (talk) 13:08, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
- I don't know, but it was on a page that I merged in. If you think it is something else then you can remove it. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 13:14, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
UserGogo212121 Hello Graeme Bartlett please look this pics http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/celebritymicro/images/id/171/category/parties/type/view/imageid/18149642/ --Gogo212121 (talk) 16:05, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
- This image and the previous one in the section above are probably covered by the CC-BY-SA-3.0 license as they are in the "parties" category. However the images may have other copyrighted material in the background of the shot that should be cropped, and have text flashed over the top that degrades the image, but could also be cropped off. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:14, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi Graeme, well done on creating the solid nitrogen article, I have nominated it for DYK and your input is invited / welcomed: Template:Did you know nominations/Solid nitrogen EdChem (talk) 12:01, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
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Hello Graeme. Dangarwa (talk · contribs) returned, recreated Mahuba, this time as a copy paste of http://www.nativeplanet.com/barmer/attractions/meva-nagar/ , and reapeated their unverifiable edits in Dabhi. Would you care to have a look and see if any of their edits are for building the 'pedia. Thanks, Sam Sailor Talk! 09:29, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
If not oversighted...
If it's not oversight-worthy, then the edit should at least be revdel'd, given the somewhat-heavily-trafficked nature of REFUND and the fact that he left both a phone number and email address in the request. (I redacted both off the very next edit, so only the one edit would need OS'd/RD'd.) —Jeremy v^_^v Bori! 21:27, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
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There are several revisions of this page that attack me and User:Oshwah. Should they be revision deleted? Thanks Adam9007 (talk) 14:17, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
- Without looking at the edits (I'm a bit preoccupied at the moment)... I'd say that, unless they're threats or very egregious comments that would benefit being taken from public view, then I don't think they need rev del. I would get a better idea if I saw the edits, but I can't do that at the moment. I'll leave this to the fine judgment of you fine gentlemen :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:21, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
- This one almost certainly needs to be revdeled. Adam9007 (talk) 14:23, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
- Action taken. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:36, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks. Does this one and this one need to be deleted too? Adam9007 (talk) 22:42, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
- They would be counted as insults, but not grossly insulting. Hopefully you are not excessively offended by this kind of childish insult. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:53, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
- No, I'm too grown-up for that (I think) :). Adam9007 (talk) 23:37, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
- They would be counted as insults, but not grossly insulting. Hopefully you are not excessively offended by this kind of childish insult. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:53, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks. Does this one and this one need to be deleted too? Adam9007 (talk) 22:42, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
- Action taken. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:36, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
- This one almost certainly needs to be revdeled. Adam9007 (talk) 14:23, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
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I have noticed that when you block IP addresses used by spambots you often use the summary, "spambot dru". I'm just curious what the "dru" means. I feel like maybe I'm missing something. :) -- Ed (Edgar181) 23:23, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
- see User:Graeme Bartlett/spambots dru means advertising drugs. There are probably serveral different bots doing this, in English or French. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:44, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
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On 13 May 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Solid nitrogen, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that solid nitrogen is an important component of the surfaces of Triton, a moon of Neptune, and of the dwarf planet Pluto? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Solid nitrogen. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Solid nitrogen), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Page Deletion
You reversed one of my pages which were deleted, and moved it to a draft. I fixed it, showing the importance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion#Ira_Tiffen I want to move it back to an actual page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adotchar (talk • contribs) 09:52, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
Ira Tiffen
I've sufficiently added references for everything, and I think the page should no longer be a draft, and become a page. Adotchar (talk) 19:21, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
Ira Tiffen
I could not find anything with the Emmy Award other than that. If I delete it, can I put it up?