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Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination. Every approved hook will appear on the main page.

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Please use one of the strings below to post your DYK nomination, using the "author" and "nominator" fields to identify the users who should receive credit for their contributions if the hook is featured on the main page.

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{{subst:NewDYKnom
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Nominations

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on June 18

A. K. Chettiar

Created by Sodabottle (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 12:05, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and date check out fine. However, there is no in-line citation immediately after the hook fact. Also, it's unclear whether the hook fact is supposed to be supported by the reference cited at note 1 or note 2. The encyclopedia cited at note 1 does not support the fact, and the source cited at note 2 is off-line. Please clarify. Cbl62 (talk) 07:36, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Units check It says 50,000 ft and 12,000 ft. These need conversions.
Hook check Can we find something that would be regarded as remarkable by Wikipedia readers?
Lightmouse (talk) 13:52, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the fix to the units. School magazines are written by people up to the age of 20. Lightmouse (talk) 10:46, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This wasn't a school magazine. OCNative (talk) 11:04, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Aha! If the Wikipedia reader can see that fact in the hook, it may indeed be remarkable to them. Lightmouse (talk) 14:23, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't believe the average person assumes a magazine is a school magazine (I know I didn't). Are you saying we need to say "non-school magazine" instead? OCNative (talk) 10:53, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm inclined to agree with OCNative, but LM is clearly concerned that "magazine" might be a bit vague. I'd not mind the original, to disagree with my wikifriend! But you might also consider this:

    ALT1 ... that Tamil writer A. K. Chettiar's original 1940s documentary on Mahatma Gandhi was lost, although abridged copies have recently been found.

    Did I get it right? I was slightly confused by "an abridged version made in 1998 and dubbed in English was discovered at the San Francisco State University". (My underline.)

    ARTICLE: Soda, my pet hate, I have to reveal, is non-roman transliterations cluttering the opening. Please revert my footnoting if you don't like it; there's no rule either way. Also, could you check my change "pioneering"? Check my correction "Imperial College of Technology". "many places in India, London, and South Africa"—many places in London? Does this three-item list balance? Maybe.

    Oh, do you guys copy-edit India-related articles????? If so, that would be a valuable resource. Tony (talk) 14:58, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

approve both, prefer original. BarkingMoon (talk) 16:21, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

John Saunders (1949-), R v Chaytor

Created by Bob House 884 (talk). Self nom at 18:52, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]


    • Ah, article name fails Rule F5: Dashes (WP:DASH). And it's in the main text at least once wrong and once right. Please see WP:MOSDASH. Use button under edit-box, or upload the dash script – for breaks and year ranges. Just paste: importScript("User:GregU/dashes.js"); into your vector.js file or monobook.js file. Expect the button at the same tab as the move-page. Instructions for script acquisition in general are here.

      I'm struggling for what might be unusual, or even improper, in the hook. Can you explain whether it's thought of as dodgy procedure for the same judge to do all of this? I fixed the "UK" repetition in the hook. This is the interesting bit in the article, isn't it? Hooky? "During these cases he was noted for strongly criticising the leaders of all three major parties for attacking the defendant MPs during the 2010 election campaign[9] and for allowing reporting of the proceedings via Twitter." Buzz me, I'm interested in making this good. Tony (talk) 09:00, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The "John Saunders" article is indeed too short at just 1425 characters of readable prose. - Dravecky (talk) 11:14, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Any chance we can take ALT1, which doesn't involve the too short article? Bob House 884 (talk) 11:17, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Feeling generous, I did some research and added one sentence to the "John Saunders" article about his involvement with the Pakistan cricket spot-fixing controversy to bring it up to 1538 characters. It is now long enough. OCNative (talk) 11:28, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks pal Bob House 884 (talk) 12:29, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm really not very active at the moment so I haven't been able to respond here. Tony mentions that theres nothing unusual about the same judge sentencing each of the politicians - Perhaps it needs to be made clear in the hook that each of them was tried and sentenced seperately (so the same judge presided over six seperate trials). Theres nothing improper about that and it was likely deliberately done for the purposes of consistency - it just seemed like a vaguely interesting throwaway along the lines of '..that the same executioner beheaded two kings'. Feel free to disagree though.
Having said that my main interest here is drawing attention to the Supreme Court case R v Chaytor - anything else is kinda a bonus. Regards, Bob House 884 (talk) 12:29, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

approv original hook after clarifying it. BarkingMoon (talk) 16:25, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 19

French India Socialist Party

  • ... that once the French India Socialist Party adopted a pro-independence position in 1954, French authorities responded by opening corruption cases against its leaders?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 03:12, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I reviewed Djadjaemankh. --Soman (talk) 18:20, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is my first review, and a second opinion is welcome, but after reading the 1506 prose characters, I felt that this article was still a stub. To me it seems like two paragraphs. Here are some questions for expansion ideas and an issue I have. Couldn't there be some meat on the party's platform/ideology/positions? And from where did they draw their support? Why they split off in 1947? And can please you provide an additional citation so we know the French India Administration was indeed the French authorities? Jesanj (talk) 02:17, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The article is a stub. Needs copyediting as well. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:21, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I will try to expand it somewhat. --Soman (talk) 00:44, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have expanded the article now, 3000+ characters, and added more sources. Also, the original hook doesn't work out, add ALT1: "... that in the 1948 municipal polls in Pondicherry, largely assumed to have been rigged, the French India Socialist Party won all 102 seats?" --Soman (talk) 01:19, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
appr alt 1 BarkingMoon (talk) 16:29, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 20

Communist Party of French India

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 03:20, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I reviewed Cock ale. --Soman (talk) 18:13, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The reference seems to say that they liberated a commune in Thirubhuvanai, not that they liberated Thirubhuvanai and then formed a commune there. Not sure how to change the hook or if it matters. -IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 19:01, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That's correct, I have reworded the article now. A suggestion for an ALT1 hook: "... that the activism of the Communist Party of French India in the 1954 independence struggle caught the attention of the New York Times, which warned of a possible communist take-over in the colony?"
--Soman (talk) 20:24, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That hook is longer than it needs to be. Something along the lines of "some observers feared that the Communist Party of French India would take over Pondicherry in 1954?" expresses the same thing more compactly. These hooks aren't very interesting, though; the fact that a newspaper speculated something is pretty dull, I think. rʨanaɢ (talk) 21:10, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think the interest lies in the fact that 1954 in Pondicherry caught the attention of the international press. Since then, how often has Pondicherry politics been reported abroad? But an attempt to shorten ALT2: "... that in 1954 New York Times warned that the Communist Party of French India was likely to seize power in the colony?" --Soman (talk) 02:13, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The hooks suggested didn't even mention Pondicherry, though. rʨanaɢ (talk) 03:45, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No, but it mentions French India, which (with 1949-1954 borders) corresponds to the contemporary territory of Pondicherry. --Soman (talk) 02:46, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
appr alt2 BarkingMoon (talk) 21:58, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Juan Gualberto Gómez

Created by NickDupree (talk). Self nom at 20:38, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Seeking leniency for late entry for article created 06.20, my first nomination

several paragraphs are unreferenced. Per DYK rules every para needs to have at least one ref. Looks good other than that. BarkingMoon (talk) 11:40, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
BarkingMoon (talk) 09:49, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 21

CFTR inhibitory factor

5x expanded by Cdbahls (talk). Self nom at 17:05, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry this is a little late, I'm new to wikipedia. This is my first article and DKY. I'd definitely appreciate any feedback or suggestions on my entry as well. Thanks! Cdbahls (talk) 17:05, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hello there! Glad to have you with us :) This article is eligible for DYK as a 5x expanded article, since it is not new, but is 5x larger in prose than the last version before the expansion began. I've verified, and it is 5x per DYKcheck. The problem remaining is, the hook is not explicitly stated in the article. If you can edit the article to reflect the hook and it is fully supported by a source, it can pass for DYK! We might propose an alternate hook(s) too; which ever you prefer is fine :) Rcej (Robert) – talk 06:20, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Great! I've expounded a bit of the opening paragraph to more explicitly discuss the hook. I'd also love to hear some other suggestions for the hook, or if anyone has any questions about the article. Thanks! Cdbahls (talk) 18:36, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The hook can make the same point in fewer words:
  • I found it in the ref...in the full text version. Yay! Cdbahls, this is fine work for a first DYK self nomination! Kudos to you :-) Next, ref every paragraph in the article and we're ready. I think we'll go with the ALT1 hook, if that's okay. Rcej (Robert) – talk 05:59, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nothing at all is wrong with ALT2; I am clarifying which hook I'd prefer to use as the reviewer. The author's choice is my priority, and your ALT1 was actually a slightly simpler version of the author's hook... so I think yours is what we need to go with. PHFLai should absolutely object if s/he feels the need; the discussion is open wide! I do like to wrap reviews ASAP, tho :) Rcej (Robert) – talk 05:03, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Robert, please consider giving out green/blue ticks instead of crossing out posts with no explanation. I find ALT1 adequate as a hook, but it fails to bring out a key point -- it's a bacterial protein causing problems usually attributed to a genetic disease -- that readers not familiar with the topic may not get it. --PFHLai (talk) 11:38, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Let's let the author pick the hook in the tiebreaker then... I'll follow consensus :) Rcej (Robert) – talk 03:39, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
hmmmm, this is a tough one! I do agree that ALT1 is short and sweet and thus potentially more likely to grab readers. However, I think PHFLai makes a great point with ALT2. The really interesting thing about this article is that a bacteria can create the conditions of a human genetic disease. The ideal situation would include this fact while still making the hook as succinct as ALT1. I've got nothing but writers block trying to do this, so unless anyone else has a suggestion, I think ALT1 may be our best option. Thanks everyone for your input! Cdbahls (talk) 21:34, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As an uninvolved editor, I prefer ALT1 because it's a better hook for the article and should induce more readers to click on the well-placed highlighted link. ALT2 over-explains and buries the link to the article at issue. - Dravecky (talk) 13:37, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 22

Fee-for-service, Overutilization

5x expanded by Jesanj (talk). Self nom at 22:19, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed French India Socialist Party (I have one DYK) Jesanj (talk) 02:21, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: While I perfectly agree with this "fact", and it is referenced in that ugly-named article (can't we pipe to the plain English "overuse"?), it's highly politicised, and I'm unsure the data are conclusive. I'd be more comfortable if there were more than one study cited, aside from the JAMA one (even though it's a high-impact journal). Tony (talk) 05:28, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't looked at the article at all (I just went through a spurt of hook copyediting yesterday after reading some poorly written hooks in the queues), but I agree it sounds like a very strong claim for an issue on which I imagine there is not universal agreement. rʨanaɢ (talk) 13:11, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it would be good to pipe with overuse because that's not verified in the source; overuse is just one part of overutilization. Overuse + overcost = overutilization. Jesanj (talk) 15:34, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It would be ideal (though not necessary, right?) to have another high-impact journal stating this, but I did look in the three comments (listed here) that the article elicited and I don't remember seeing anyone question that statement. The three comments were more nit-picky. One mentioned the cost of regulation, one made an issue out of physician compensation, and I can't remember the other. Jesanj (talk) 16:51, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Franklin Hildebrand

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 02:09, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Hugo Friend
Newness verified, hook ref is an offline source, accepting in good faith. Just kindly verify the length. Thanks. - AnakngAraw (talk) 04:28, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It is on-line; 5,087 bytes. Billy Hathorn (talk) 17:18, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comes in at 1956 characters - currently listed as a stub but will remove that template momentarily, so good to go. Miyagawa (talk) 14:08, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
To be frank, the hook is quite boring. I am always skeptical about using hooks that essentially say "that X did his job". There is not really anything unusual or surprising about a journalist writing columns. rʨanaɢ (talk) 17:09, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps you should focus on his military honors? I don't know many journalists who have received purple hearts for war injuries. Most writers don't get shot at.--Jp07 (talk) 17:21, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT ... that American journalist Charles Franklin Hildebrand earned the Purple Heart and Silver Star for his World War I service in the battles of the Marne River and Argonne Forest?
If it were me, I would probably single out the Purple Heart and say why he was awarded that. Although the Silver Star is interesting, I think people would be more interested in the war injury aspect, and they might not immediately recall that Purple Heart means injury. Last time I read the article, it didn't say how he was injured, but I think the extra research would benefit the article, too. But this hook is better.--Jp07 (talk) 00:48, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 23

St Mary de Crypt Church

St Mary de Crypt Church

Created by Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 03:24, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Length, and source for hook both check out. Looks good to go!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:42, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hook is excellent. Article ... wouldn't want to be any shorter. Is there a way of preventing the word "church" occurring four times in the first sentence and seven times in the first three sentences? (Anglican? Building?) I'd have thought the semicircular seat would make a better pic. Tony (talk) 12:05, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks to "Anglican house of worship" and two instances of the word "it," there is now only three instances of church in three sentences, with the first one being the current name of this building and the other two being former names of this same building. OCNative (talk) 11:27, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Anino ng Kahapon

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 00:18, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • No, it doesn't work to ask others to view 'all over this page'. You have made plenty of nominations, and it is impossible for other editors to keep track if your number of nominations and your number of reviews match. --Soman (talk) 01:06, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Based on experience, as emphasized by one DYK editor in the past, a book is notable if it has an ISBN. And this novel has the following ISBNs ISBN-10: 9715504213 and ISBN-13: 978-9715504218. - AnakngAraw (talk) 18:41, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
See this example. - AnakngAraw (talk) 18:46, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think you're misreading WP:NBOOK. WP:NBOOK#Threshold standards says "Books should have at a minimum an ISBN (for books published after 1975), be available at a dozen or more libraries and be catalogued by its country of origin's official or de facto national library" (emphasis added). Many non-notable books have ISBNs, including self-published / vanity press books and conference proceedings that are only available in one or two libraries. Just having an ISBN doesn't make a book notable.
Furthermore, that same section says "However, these are exclusionary criteria rather than inclusionary; meeting these threshold standards does not imply that a book is notable, whereas a book which does not meet them, most likely is not." Again, that means that just having an ISBN doesn't mean the book is notable; just that lacking an ISBN means the book is probably not. rʨanaɢ (talk) 18:58, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Provided more sources, including the book written by Filipino literary critic Epifanio San Juan, Jr. Apart from this, the novel was republished in 2002 by the Ateneo de Manila University Press, a distinguished university and publisher of Philippine literature. - AnakngAraw (talk) 19:57, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Among the entries now are source from the National Library of the Philippines. Conclusion: the novel/book is notable. - AnakngAraw (talk) 20:17, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All Hyderabad Trade Union Congress

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 03:28, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I reviewed Udmurt Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic. --Soman (talk) 04:31, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rejigged the word order in the hook: ALT1 ... that Makhdoom Mohiuddin, the president of the All Hyderabad Trade Union Congress, was arrested at the founding meeting of the organization in 1946?

    Hook interest is great. Article: needs further copy-editing. I've fixed dates, dashes, and the section-title that wasn't a noun phrase. You may be interested in reading the Manual of Style on these issues; it's how I learned about them. Article will be ok when massaged, preferably by fresh eyes (easier to see issues, then). Do you have collaborators on WP? It's a great way to work, passing back and forth from each other. Tony (talk) 13:11, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion for ALT3: "... that Urdu poet Makhdoom Mohiuddin was the founding president of the All Hyderabad Trade Union Congress?" --Soman (talk) 16:23, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have reworded some passages in the text now, expanded the lede. --Soman (talk) 17:09, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jessie Miller

  • ... that, in 1927, Jessie Miller became the first woman to complete an England-to-Australia flight?

Created by Gcanyon (talk). Nominated by Strikerforce (talk) at 04:32, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

BarkingMoon (talk) 11:21, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 24

Kathleen Cody (actor)

Created by Cindamuse (talk). Nominated by Gamaliel (talk) at 23:13, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Some other suggestions:

İncili Çavuş

Created by Nedim Ardoğa (talk), Takabeg (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 11:04, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • From the first sentence of the article, what is "one of the figures of comic wisdom"? I don't really know what that means.
  • Regarding the hook, I think "the apocryphal" can be removed. In my experience that is used more to describe texts than people, and either way it's an unnecessary detail that distracts from the point being made. rʨanaɢ (talk) 17:35, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dicksonia Plantation

Dicksonia Plantation

  • ... that a windmill provided the water supply at the Dicksonia Plantation (pictured) in Alabama during the 19th century?

Created by Cougar6 (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 08:30, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hook, length, creation date fine with me. Offline ref accepting in good faith. - AnakngAraw (talk) 14:28, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Article good. Hook is a let-down ... windmills providing water? Commonplace in the 19th century. Selection criterion 3: A hook fact is assumed to be "an extraordinary claim". Why not plunder the last section ("Destruction") for your hook? Tony (talk) 11:07, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
How about this:
  • ALT1:... that the main house at Dicksonia Plantation (pictured) in Alabama was destroyed by fire twice during the 20th century?
Altairisfar (talk) 20:48, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I actually had no idea that it was possible for windmills to provide water and hence assumed it to be "an extraordinary claim." However, I am fine with ALT1 if that is preferred. OCNative (talk) 11:18, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I agree with Tony that a windmill providing water (presumably powering some sort of pump or well) is run-of-the-mill; it's barely worth noting in the article, much less on the Main Page. I've stricken the initial proposed hook. cmadler (talk) 13:51, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
both okay, prefer alt1 BarkingMoon (talk) 11:22, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Arizona State University Art Museum

5x expanded by Neutrality (talk). Self nom at 13:25, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I added a couple more. It's a highly linked article so I took out a couple of the lesser value ones.
I'm a fan of museums but many of our readers aren't. I suspect 'skull painting' is more tempting. Can we work on the hook a bit more? Lightmouse (talk)
ALT 1: ... that Georgia O'Keeffe's first skull painting, Horse's Skull on Blue, in the collection of Arizona State University Art Museum, references New Mexico's blue skies and the idea of memento mori? Neutralitytalk 22:24, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The trend in DYK is to improve the ratio between high and low value links in order to funnel readers. The target article should be the only link, sometimes supported by a second, and at a push a third. How about making it shorter:
ALT 2: ... that Georgia O'Keeffe's first skull painting, Horse's Skull on Blue, in the collection of Arizona State University Art Museum, refers to the idea of memento mori?
Lightmouse (talk) 08:45, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT 3 ... that Georgia O'Keeffe's first skull painting which is held by the Arizona State University Art Museum references the memento mori concept?

Articles created/expanded on June 25

Sir William Young, 1st Baronet, Sir William Young, 2nd Baronet

  • ... that although Sir William Young, 1st Baronet left his son his four Caribbean estates after his death in 1788, he passed on debts amounting to £110,000, equivalent to over £11 million today?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 21:31, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's not under the 200 character (including spaces) limit but it's closer, maybe someone else can craft a better hook? Shearonink (talk) 02:46, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I like your re-crafted hook, Doctor, maybe even?...

Mini Hatch (2001–2006)

Mini Cooper

  • ALT1:... that the exhaust pipe of the original new Mini Hatch (pictured) was a result of a positive result from a presentation when before at the last minute, it had to be made from a beer can?

Created by Rangoon11 (talk). Nominated by Donnie Park (talk) at 16:32, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Grant Speed

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 04:27, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ARTICLE overlinked. Or it was. See MoS about "USA" and "ly-". Consider W for Western at the start; but it's unclear you mean "a sculptor in the genre of Westerns", or something like that (I'm unsure). Certainly it's no good in the hook (a western-themed sculptor? The theme was his, applied to his sculptures. Buzz me if you need assistance in these re-phrasings. Independent copy-edit would be good ... a quick one (e.g., "to devote full time to his art"). Hook interest ok. Tony (talk) 12:29, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Hook has been revised. Billy Hathorn (talk) 00:48, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewed Stave Falls Dam

Tzeltal people

Tzeltal child in Amatenango

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 02:38, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and hook okay. AGF for offline sources. --Epipelagic (talk) 03:16, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Not yet. But I think we could construct a tasty hook based on their connection with Maya people. Lightmouse (talk) 15:00, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ruskin Dam

Ruskin Dam power house just downstream of the dam

Created by--NortyNort (Holla) 02:26, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with Norty. Could be good. Also, why not Canadian dollars? Tony (talk) 12:35, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The English source went with U.S. dollars which I thought was okay for its use in the article. Are the references for the filming locations okay? I haven't worked in TV-related articles much and know it is probably had to find a good source for this kind of stuff.--NortyNort (Holla) 13:13, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Maple Ridge Times is Canadian, so the "$800 million" here is probably in Canadian dollars. The two currencies are roughly on par these days, anyway. --PFHLai (talk) 20:49, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I changed the hook and article to reflect C$--NortyNort (Holla) 01:43, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
An ALT about filming locations, as discussed above:--NortyNort (Holla) 23:04, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jan Claudius de Cock

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 05:39, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting article. The hook seems a little ordinary for a DYK. Is there an extraordinary claim that can be made? If not, perhaps it'd be better to go for GA. Lightmouse (talk) 16:23, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ang mga Anak Dalita

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 01:16, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Could use some more sources but other than that the hook checks out.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:27, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Please fix: Rule F5: Dashes (WP:DASH). Use button under edit-box, or upload the dash script – for breaks and year ranges. Just paste: importScript("User:GregU/dashes.js"); into your vector.js file or monobook.js file. Expect the button at the same tab as the move-page. Instructions for script acquisition in general are here.

    I'm becoming concerned at the number of early-20th-century Filipino novels that are flowing into DYK right now. Can they not be spaced out a bit after this one? The hook is quite good. So I guess the book cover (as in ref. 2) is too copyright-problematic to include in the article? Tony (talk) 04:53, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what "during the period" in the hook refers to. --PFHLai (talk) 22:22, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALTs 1 to 3 provided. - AnakngAraw (talk) 23:40, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
So the hooks are saying that a book published in the Philippines in the early 20th century is about (contemporary?) changes in society in the capital city of the Philippines in the early 20th century. Not sure if this is interesting enough for DYK purposes. I went through the article, looked at every ref'ed sentence and I can't find any hook materials. --PFHLai (talk) 11:46, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT 4: ... that there is a storytelling scene in the novel Ang mga Anak Dalita where the Philippines is compared to a pearl, Spain to a fish, and the United States to a leech? - AnakngAraw (talk) 16:08, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, here is alt 4. - AnakngAraw (talk) 16:08, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The online ref that goes with footnote #2 does not explain the meaning of those non-English words as a "pearl", a "fish," and a "leech." Help needed from someone else who knows the language to verify these translations. BTW, any info on the book's reception? Culture impact? --PFHLai (talk) 02:33, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Provided refs for the non-English words in the article. - AnakngAraw (talk) 05:53, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have no data about culture impact and book reception at the moment. - AnakngAraw (talk) 06:04, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 26

National Museum of Archaeology (Bolivia)

Pre-Colombian animals

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 10:25, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The claim of "most prominent museum" seems to be supported by a published source, with the relevant text available on-line, but the mention of prec-Columbian figures resembling dinosaurs is cited only from (a) a travel web site that does not mention any resemblance, and (b) a dead link. That part of the hook does not meet DYK requirements for citing the hook. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:37, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Inadvertently there was dot at the end of the url. I have now refixed this [4]. I thought it was a genuine history article with page number of the text from where it has been exttrcted and not related to any tourism site. Please go through the reference which opens now.--Nvvchar. 13:15, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • Source [10] is "Trip advisor", which is a travel website. Source [11], which has now been linked correctly is a Creationist website trying to prove that men and dinosaurs existed at the same time. Neither of these sites is appropriate as a reliable source by Wikipedia standards, and I can't fathom how anyone would think either was a genuine history website. Also note that even a reliable source must be referenced immediately after the fact used in the hook, and not at the end of the paragraph. As it stands, the bit about resemblance to dinosuars is not supported by reliable references or properly placed citations. --EncycloPetey (talk) 13:39, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The corrected hook is now fine, but the article's prose needs a major copy editing before use. There are many run-on sentences, many places where punctuation is needed, some in-sentence redundancy of phrases, as well as additional stylistic problems. If someone gives the article a thorough editing for style, it should then be eligible. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:56, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rewolucyjni Mściciele

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 18:19, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Word count and dates all check out; have to AGF on the Polish source. Ambiguous prose could do with minor tidying up – I've done all I can. --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 10:17, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Majority Judgment

Created by Homunq (talk). Self nom at 10:58, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • It would be more interesting if I could state that the poll results did not agree with the official results... but it's hard to get that into 200 characters without leaving out crucial details ("presidential", "politically-aware", etc.) Homunq (talk) 11:16, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
How about:
Or:

Wardang Island

Created by Maias (talk). Self nom at 03:41, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Seems inherently interesting to me. For those that don't know about the disease, it may be possible to create a hook about deliberate infection and/or disease escape. Lightmouse (talk) 16:22, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think the fact that these two diseases were engineered and released to control a serious pest (introduced by the European invasion) should be in the hook. Article: ref notes don't specify page numbers or page ranges for specific claims. "successful" × 2. Very promising article. Tony (talk) 05:39, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that Wardang Island was used for trials of viruses for exterminating rabbits in Australia? Maias (talk) 14:11, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think that's better and have no further need for input but don't pass it without a response from Tony. He's more familiar with this topic than I am. Lightmouse (talk) 12:05, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hook is flat, I think. Article is very very good. I hope you're working on more ... please. You might consider (now CSIRO).

    :ALT2: ... that in the 1950s, Wardang Island was the site of a pioneering experiment to develop a biological solution for controlling the plague of instroduced rabbits in Australia? Tony (talk) 12:16, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Greatham Church

A low, broad, stone-built church with a tiled roof and a spire at the far end, with a porch projecting to the left

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 21:18, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The "curiosity" hook is just great. But DYK image rule: "Suitable, attractive, and interesting at 100 × 100px." ... could you brighten the shadowy bit? I've partially treated the serious overlinking in the article. Good article. English Heritage ... could it be piped to something more explicit, like the English Heritage ?Office? EH seems like it's their brand name. Tony (talk) 05:47, 28 June 2011 (UTC) PS the left-side image in the article: it sandwiches the text for many readers, depending on their window width and other settings. Can it be repositioned on the right, below the infobox? Tony (talk) 05:49, 28 June 2011 (UTC) PPS Lancet windows might be a better hook image? Tony (talk) 05:49, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've shuffled the pics around; not sure if the result is better. English Heritage is the official name of the department (technically, non-departmental body), so that is the best link – they are the ones responsible for granting listed status. I'll have a go at editing the picture when I get home tonight (there is another here from a different angle; possibly brighter). Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 13:02, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have added File:Greatham Church (Edited).jpg in place of the original. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 16:41, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

King Creole

A film poster. A man is rising his right hand and holding a guitar with the left hand. The man is dressed with a shirt, a tie and a jacket. In the background, the same man is about to kiss a woman.

was set to be starred by James Dean as a New York boxer, but ultimately after his death the role went to Elvis Presley as a New Orleans club singer? Created/expanded by GDuwen (talk). Self nom at 16:34, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Three to four day old article. That means it is still new. Ref cited to offline source. Accepting in good faith. Length way beyond the minimum. Good to go. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:50, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Could you apply the style guides? Date format comma, spaced dash for full dates; "The New York Times gave a favorable review to the movie"—did they mail it? Please consider avoiding a left-side pic adjacent to the infobox. Narrow screens will squash the text badly. Why not a 240px pic, anyway? Promising article, and good work thus far. Tony (talk) 07:53, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This hook is 220 characters long. Hooks cannot exceed 200 characters, unless the hook contains multiple DYK articles. OCNative (talk) 07:34, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1:... that the 1958 movie King Creole was set to be starred by James Dean as a New York boxer, but ultimately after his death the role went to Elvis Presley as a New Orleans club singer?--GDuwenTell me! 16:32, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hook is now appropriate length. Date, length of article, and refs checked out by AnakngAraw. Tony's concerns appear to be addressed. This looks good to go for DYK. OCNative (talk) 23:58, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
How can this issue be assessed?--GDuwenTell me! 15:22, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You need to add about 4,200 characters of prose to the article to achieve the 5x expansion. I don't know if that is possible. Please see the DYK rules. —Bruce1eetalk 04:52, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 27

Van de koele meren des doods

Dutch actress Renée Soutendijk in 1992

Created/expanded by SpeakFree (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 04:32, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Christine Jorgensen Reveals

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 01:05, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • This is really interesting, but I have a few qualms. First of all, I made a few copyedits, but the article is still choppy in places (all the way at the end, for instance--the director and producer come out of nowhere. Second, the hook should probably specify a time or time period. More importantly, though, "the world's most famous woman," according to the article that's only one journalist who says that, so the wording in the hook is a bit too strong. Drmies (talk) 04:38, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dr. John R. Drish House

A pink, boarded-up, two-story house with monumental columns and a central three-story tower.

Created by Altairisfar (talk). Self nom at 01:48, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 28

Heydar Aliyev Foundation

Fire in the center of eight-pointed star, which represents eight branches of Turkic peoples

Created by Sharktopus (talk). Self nom at 00:39, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Length, date and sources ok. Information in hook backed up in source. I've no idea what you mean about a "Swahili exception" (None of the sources are in Swahili), but other than that it's good to go. Aridd (talk) 16:46, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Charles S. Mitchell

Photograph of Charles S. Mitchell cropped from Michigan football team portrait

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 07:06, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Mona Vale, Christchurch. See diff. Cbl62 (talk) 07:20, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, creation date, referencing and the hook are all fine. Is "goal-keeper" in quotation marks because the term was not commonly used then? – The match report doesn't have them. (I'm not familiar with American football terminology—only with association football.) Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 20:35, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
In its earliest years, American football was evolving from the traditional English games of football and rugby. Since the 1880s, there has been no "goal keeper" in American football. I thought the use of quotes appropriate to emphasize the position is not a typo as well as emphasizing the novelty of the position. Cbl62 (talk) 21:34, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Cool—I thought that might be the case. Thanks for the explanation. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 22:24, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of La Flor, Battle of Las Cruces (1928)

Created by $1LENCE D00600D (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 02:49, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Ford Chipp, Imatong Mountains

Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 00:30, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • date, length, refs fine. Minor requests: Chipp's article says "collected", the source suggests "discovered", - "found" seems almost too week. It looks like the plants are named after him? I didn't see that in the hook, perhaps others are as blind? And perhaps add 1929? The related mountain has a bare url, btw. - Interesting fact! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:48, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ujjani Dam

View of Bhima Dam and reservoir
  • ... that in the Bhima River valley, of the 22 dams built, the Ujjani Dam (pictured) in Maharashtra, India is the terminal and also the largest dam in the valley?

Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 14:01, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ... that in the Bhima River valley, of the 22 dams built, the Ujjani Dam (pictured) in Maharashtra, India is the terminal and also the largest dam in the valley?
Thanks. I agree.--Nvvchar. 04:46, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Clemenstone

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 10:19, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Ride to Conquer Cancer

Created by Resolute (talk). Nominated by E2eamon (talk) at 16:26, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tanguy Ngombo

5x expanded by Martin tamb (talk). Self nom at 07:20, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The ALT1 hook is indeed rather plain, but the original one appears to be in violation of DYK rules ("Articles and hooks that focus unduly on negative aspects of living individuals or promote one side of an ongoing dispute should be avoided."). Maybe the hook could be restated so that it doesn't suggest Ngombo lied. Could someone give a second opinion here? GregorB (talk) 17:02, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually, the reason why I do the rewrite and the expansion on this article is to clear up these accusations, because none was actually proven and the previous version of the article was not neutral and relied too much on blogs as references. That's why I want to mention his ineligibility and age issue on the hook. Anyway, I hope the new ALT2 hook could help achieve my goal while still comply with DYK rules. If not, the ALT1 hook would be fine, because basketball fans would know that an NBA team drafting a Qatari player is really rare (note that I altered ALT1 a little bit). Thanks for the reviews, really appreciated. — MT (talk) 06:07, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • All three hooks are supported by sources, and the article is now good to go. I'm leaving the hook choice to the admins, but I'd slightly prefer ALT2 over ALT1, and definitely advise against the original. Nice job on expanding the article and cleaning up its WP:BLP issue. Finally, let me try with yet another hook:
  • Okay, thanks for the thorough review, the original hook is withdrawn because it fail to comply with DYK rules. Personally, I prefer ALT3, it sounds better in passive voice. — MT (talk) 04:07, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Cenotaph, Whitehall

A large Portland stone cenotaph draped in flags, bearing inscription, 'The Glorious Dead'

  • ... that The Cenotaph, Whitehall (pictured) replaced a wood-and-plaster cenotaph erected in 1919 for the Allied Victory Parade?

Created by Thom2002 (talk). Self nom at 22:07, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Have now gone through the article and updated, adding citations. Also realized it was an expansion from existing text at Cenotaph and have now ensured that it is 5x expanded from that text as well. Should all be cited now, and it's a tempting one to keep expanding for GA. Might have to hit the library. :) As I've added myself as co-creator, I've also reviewed Herlinatiens above. Miyagawa (talk) 14:16, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article looks good now, although the sentence that talks about the wood-and-plaster cenotaph needs to be reviewed. I found an error in the sentence structure, and hopefully I fixed it without changing the intended meaning. Otherwise, I checked the source and it seems to all look good. – VisionHolder « talk » 18:24, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good to me, thanks Visionholder Thom2002 (talk) 20:47, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wedlock (band)

Current band members Chris Scendo and Paul Allgood.

  • ... that Paul Allgood and Chris Scendo of the band Wedlock have released new material online, and have signed a two record deal with their new label Exquisite Noise?

Created by Kthapelo (talk). Self nom at 21:05, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

While dates and length check out, I have notability concerns: the creator has written what appears to be a walled garden of articles for this unremarkable two-piece band (including albums, and singles) with more personnel changes than singles. Much hinges on whether the sources cited are reliable. Some seem to be directory entries; there's also recycling of press releases. Uninspiring hook: what band these days does not release material online? Kounterfeit Records and Exquisite Noise don't seem to be notable. --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 06:57, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

William L. Brandon

Created by Ceradon (talk). Self nom at 23:27, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ceradon, I just looked at your article, which has a ton of great info and sources on Gen. Brandon. However, there are several things that need to be fixed before it's ready for DYK, or for Wikipedia.
  • Per DYK reviewing guidelines, your hook fact (his amputation) "must be immediately followed by an inline citation to a reliable source," which you don't have there at the moment, it's down at the end of the paragraph.
  • I didn't make an exact count, but reading through, I noticed maybe a dozen careless typos, and some spelling and grammar errors. You should proofread again and correct, starting with your lead sentence: ". . . best known for serving with the Confederate General in the American Civil War."
  • Also in that first sentence, the name of the state should appear after the county names. Not everybody who reads Wikipedia has a clue where Adams County is, you know.
  • When you make an inline citation for a printed source that is not viewable online, it should NOT be wikilinked; that just makes a circular link back to your own article, which serves no purpose.
  • What you call the "Notes" section should be relabled "References"; and what you call "References" should be relabled "Bibliography."
  • Then the contents of the bibliography section should be put in alphabetical order, going by the first word in each entry. In all but one case, that is someone's last name. However, although you correctly use Last Name, First Name on those, you should NOT do that for an organization name. Meaning - change Company, Reprint to simply Reprint Company.
  • For an encyclopedia article, I wonder if it's truly important to devote so much space in this article to the minute medical details of his amputation. Those details are about one-half of your word count - but do they really outweigh all the other things that occurred in his life?
  • All but one of your citations are to printed books, so I can't verify the accuracy of your claims and have to accept them in good faith. However, when I read sentences such as "he labored to bring out every man needed for the service of the Confederacy," I have to wonder if that is your own language, or if you copied it out of a book? It's fine to use quotations, as long as you put them in quotation marks and identify the source - but simply lifting whole phrases and sentences from a source is plagiarism. I'm not saying you did that, but please consider your writing methods here.
Having said all that, I think it will be a fine article when you get it cleaned up. If you need help, hit me at my talk page. Textorus (talk) 03:08, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've gone through and fixed a number of things in the article, though I left a couple editor's notes here and here that should be addressed. A couple of the points Textorus raised aren't valid; linking the citations can be useful and I've seen it done in a number of high-quality articles. As for the naming of the reference sections, it's perfectly fine as is (I've use the same format - Footnotes and References sections - in 20+ FAs). One last thing: you've got a reference to "Welsh 2006" - should this be "Welsh 1999" or "Warner 2006"? Parsecboy (talk) 13:43, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Do you mean a Minnie ball? The link you used makes it look like it's a cannonball...I think it should be Minié ball or "minie ball" (pronounced 'minnie'). Shearonink (talk) 23:36, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
NOTE: I have withdrawn my nominated article, so someone else can take over the review of this article. The author of it has not yet responded. Textorus (talk) 03:05, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Jacksonville Braves

5x expanded by Cuchullain (talk). Self nom at 22:46, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 29

John Chase (doctor and soldier)

Portrait of Gen. John Chase in military uniform, 1914.

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 22:55, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Pierrepont School, Frensham. See diff. Cbl62 (talk) 03:35, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Goman

  • ... that Goman was an ex-slave leader who led a peasant revolt in Southern Grand'Anse, Haiti between 1807 and 1820?

Created by Calliopejen1 (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 09:27, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Badi Uzzaman.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:28, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Badi Uzzaman

Created by Scanlan (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 02:10, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

One source is not good enough. Please find more sources.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:28, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Io as an X-ray source

Created by Marshallsumter (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 01:49, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Interesting article, meets DYK rules. I suggest slightly tweaked hook that includes article image, but I am not "approving my own hook" here, I am approving the DYK article and opening up the hook choice to discussion. Sharktopus talk 15:35, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Schematic of Jupiter's magnetosphere and the components influenced by Io (near the center of the image): the plasma torus (in red), the neutral cloud (in yellow), the flux tube (in green), and magnetic field lines (in blue).
Galilean moon Io with its plasma torus in Jupiter's magnetosphere

SS Lanthorn

A painting of a long boat with sails in the ocean.

  • ... that during the First World War, SS Lanthorn (pictured) was rescued after a German attack but sank just 1⁄2 mile (0.80 km) from safety?

Created by Motacilla (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 23:59, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Stella Maris Polytechnic

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 07:10, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pon de Floor

Created by Adabow (talk). Self nom at 09:18, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The first hook is lousy because of the dry humping bit and I would not okay it. The second hook is usable except that it has problems with referencing in the article. The reference for Chiddy Bang is an inadequate link to Air Swell which redirects to Chiddy Bang and completely fails to support the hook. The Beyonce reference is okay but it needs to be placed directly after the relevant sentence in the article rather than after the next sentence.
    You can find a reference for Chiddy Bang sampling the song and you can move the Beyonce reference, or you can remove the Chiddy Bang bit from the hook and just move the Beyonce ref. Binksternet (talk) 20:26, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Re the first hook, "lousy because of the dry humping bit and I would not okay it"? WP:NOTCENSORED. Re the second, the reference is the "Album notes for Air Swell". There is no online version, unfortunately. I removed the redirecting link to Air Swell. As for the Beyonce ref, it verifies both "relevant" sentences. Adabow (talk · contribs) 04:20, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • If you want to keep "dry humping" you'll have to put it in the article in addition to daggering, with a reference, or simply replace dry humping with daggering in the hook.
    Regarding Air Swell, because there is no reference, it cannot be supported in the hook. I have named the Beyonce ref and doubled it so that it satisfies the DYK rule requiring an inline reference directly supporting the hook.
    Your choices are a) the first hook with daggering rather than dry humping, or b) the second hook without Chiddy Bang. Binksternet (talk) 05:34, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oh, this edit explains a lot. I was wondering why I had duplicated the thing about daggering. Re Air Swell, there is a reference - there is just no online webpage. Anyway, I might adjust the first hook:

Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:45, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rami Levi Hashikma Marketing

  • ... that you can buy chicken for 1 shekel a kilo (13 cents a pound) at Rami Levi supermarkets?

Created by Yoninah (talk). Self nom at 00:55, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I fixed the part about holidays.
  • Ohconfucious, I do not understand the reasoning for your advertising tag. None of the information in the article (except for the list of store locations and the names of the fast food outlets in the supermarket) is from the company's website – all the information comes from reliable news sources. I tried to present the information as neutrally as possible. It would be helpful if you would identify just what sounds too promotional to you. [Perhaps Rami Levi's marketing strategy simply sounds too good to be true? :)] I also don't understand why you would delete a sourced fact like the company's market share increasing 464% between 2008 and 2011 on the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange. I didn't even include the recent news item where he promised to deliver free groceries every week to the orphans of the Itamar attack until the youngest turns 18.
  • If the hook seems promotional rather than catchy, here is an alt:
  • ALT1: ... that Rami Levi introduced supermarket price wars to Israel? Yoninah (talk) 09:54, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Unsure whether I like the original hook or ALT1 less. Certainly, the advertising issue is more obvious in the original. Could you avoid left-sided pics unless clearly ok? The text will be squashed at many window widths. 240px would be good, too, for both. What does this mean: "Now he did turn a profit,"? "a 40 square metres (430 sq ft) stall"—awkward (no "s", to start with). MoS suggests reversing, where you do need the s: "a stall 40 square metres (430 sq ft) in area", which also removes the hyphen issue. It's hard, but can the readers get a better grip on what new shekels are worth, in US$? Possibly a footnote to the as of 2011 exchange rate? If it didn't have those newpaper refs, it would be deleted as non-notable. I'm not entirely comfortable with this, but I can't put a clear case against a DYK once the prose is fixed up throughout. Tony (talk) 10:25, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, ALT1 is already much better. It's certainly a distinguishing claim, although hard discounting is nothing new, except to Israel in 2007. As to the spam, I'd say that just because its third-party sourced does not necessarily make it non-promotional. There are all sorts of publications out there covering the wide spectrum from objective factual reporting through PR right through to blatant unabashed advertising. Let's not forget that the Israeli press is hardly neutral in the current political context in the Middle East. As an obvious success story, it's being written about in admirative glowing terms. The apparent threatening of its existence in the occupied territories by Palestinian Authority mandated boycott is of equally obvious propaganda value. I have copyedited part of the article, at the same time as removing spam. For instance, I merged the examples of price-cutting into a picture of their continuous strategy. I havent yet touched the on the worst of it, in the sections which follow, but I hope that my work can show you what can be done; I shan't be doing any more.

    I removed the reference to the 4-fold increase in market share or the improvement in share price? Well it's not terribly encyclopaedic. Publicity stunts are generally unencyclopaedic except when its part of another coherent picture, so I'd definitely leave out the bit about free deliveries. And a fourfold increase doesn't mean anything, for it could be 0.1% to 0.464% share, or 10% to 46.4%; plainly writing its position as the third behind Shufersal and Blue Square with x% market share suffices, I think. --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 16:15, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

William M. Hutchins



Created by Peripatetic (talk). Self nom at 00:55, 29 June 2011 (UTC) I liked the contrast offered by the obscurity of Appalachian State versus the worldwide fame of the Cairo Trilogy, commonly regarded as the finest work in modern Arabic literature.[reply]
Wordpress blogs are user-created and very unreliable (WP:BLOG). Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:14, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks. I've changed the wording slightly, and the sourcing to the Nobel Prize page itself. Hope this is good for approval now... - Peripatetic
I did correct the wrong hyphen in another hook just a few days ago. Please remove it. Hook is of marginal focus of interest, I've got to say. To make the notability more comfortable, why not include a list of at least a few of Hutchins's publications. A quick look at google scholar should do it. The university webpages are barely enough. There's a slight sense that Rule D7: An article should not look like "work in progress", and must "deal adequately with a topic" is not satisfied. Rather short, even if over the 1500 minimum. Tony (talk) 10:30, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I edited this. Place of birth not available??? Need links added, can use the universities for links. What about a box? Billy Hathorn (talk) 13:35, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Cheslakee (steamship)

Photo of the steamship Cheslakee

Created by Mtsmallwood (talk). Nominated by NJR ZA (talk) at 14:02, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • But I think it's more interesting that despite causing all those deaths, the ship was refloated and set out again, despite already sinking once! ResMar 20:37, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Suming

Suming, appearing in the male traditional dress for the indigenous Pangcah people, at the release party for his 2010 album "Suming" in Taipei, Taiwan

  • ... that merging indigenous lyrics and electronic dance music, Taiwanese singer Suming evoked qualities of attractive "kapah" (young men) in his matrilineal Amis tribe (pictured)?
  • ALT1:... that a song by Taiwanese singer Suming evokes qualities considered attractive in "kapah" (young men) within his matrilineal Amis tribe (pictured)?

Created by Puchku (talk). Self nom at 22:26, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • He's hot! </frivolous> ARTICLE: Way WP:overlinked. Please see my edits, and I think Ohconfucius took an interest in this one linguistically. For my part, it was worth working on for anthropological reasons; hope you do more, but you could brush up on WP:MOS, WP:MOSNUM, and WP:MOSLINK. Date format corrected. Typos. I really don't like the Chinese script in running text, but OhC clearly thinks it's ok. HOOK: Well, I like the original better, but why not remove "kapah"?

    ALT2 ... that Taiwanese singer Suming (pictured) merged indigenous lyrics and electronic dance music to evoke specific qualities of attractive men in his Amis tribe, including fishing and cooking skills.

    It's a little over the limit, but possibly might get through the admins. What do you think? Tony (talk) 16:44, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks for the edits, and the pointers to MOS. I'm also interested in the singer for mostly anthropological reasons, and the "alternative cultural activism".

    HOOK:I included "Kapah" because this is the name of the song, but I don't insist on including it.

    ALT2 is great! I'd love to use ALT2 if admins would make an exception for its exceeding the character limit.--Puchku (talk) 19:04, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've reworked it slightly. The article's emphasis is indeed unusual, which makes it interesting. Wordcount, dates and sourcing are all satisfactory. I also prefer ALT2. --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 02:17, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with tick. Puchku, I boldly edited my ALT2, since it has to have "skills" or "abilities" at the end. Took out "young" and "matilineal", since neither is essential, I'm hoping. Tony (talk) 16:33, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Tony, I think I prefer your original version - leaving "young" and "matrilineal" in.

Why "young" - the name of the song is "Kapah", which literally means something beautiful and shiny, and also young men, whose traditional dress is the more decorative among all age groups. In A'tolan, men over 40 are no longer "Kapah". While Amis men in general are expected to have these skills, the song is not about "attractive men", but about the young men in the age organizations, who are shiny and beautiful, and the abilities they are proud to have. If the hook has to be a fact, I would say we should leave "young" in.

Why matrilineal - my understanding is that the hook tends to mention something more exotic. The paragraph in the article which the hook refers to mentions other qualities kapah should have. The ability to "cook" sounds less exotic without the context of Amis being a matrilineal society - hinting at a kind of gender roles reversal compared to western societies. However, since this hook is also exceeding character limits, I don't insist on keeping "matrilineal".

ALT3 ... that Taiwanese singer Suming (pictured) merged indigenous lyrics and electronic dance music to evoke specific qualities of attractive young men in his matrilineal Amis tribe, including fishing and cooking skills.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Puchku (talk • contribs) 17:35, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This article is also nominated at June 28 Section. - AnakngAraw (talk) 15:55, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
My mistake! I removed the nom. Rcej (Robert) – talk 04:29, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2011 royal tour of Canada

Personal Flag of the Duke of Cambridge for use in Canada

Created/expanded by Zanimum (talk). Self nom at 00:47, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article does not say it will be unveiled during the tour.Jim Sweeney (talk) 16:10, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Whoops. Fixed, plus a note about its first appearance, in a cockpit window, as opposed to just a graphic as it was on the 29th. -- Zanimum (talk) 19:06, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
May I suggest that this nomination be included in Friday's Canada Day special holding area? -- Zanimum (talk) 00:47, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Good to go date length etc ok Jim Sweeney (talk) 20:22, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much! Could anyone reading this message please consider including this in the Canada Day (July 1) DYK queues? Because this flag was only announced yesterday, there wasn't time to get this approved and into the holding area before then. If someone would be so kind to take mercy, and add it to one of the relevant queues, that would be amazing! -- Zanimum (talk) 20:48, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is already in Queue 4. Obviously whoever promoted it didn't remove it from here. When the hook was still in Prep 4, 2011 royal tour of Canada was put up for deletion, and I removed the link to the article, making the hook a single-nom so it could still make it for Canada day. If it remains in the queue, the nom must be removed from here. —Bruce1eetalk 11:53, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on June 30

Elizabeth Maitland, Duchess of Lauderdale

Created by Reichsfürst (talk). Self nom at 20:40, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Frederik Wilhelm Stabell

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 19:53, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Collins H. Johnston

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 00:27, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Robert Emmet Odlum. See diff. Cbl62 (talk) 03:48, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Captive (painting)

old man abandoned in gaol

Created/expanded by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 19:33, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Robert Emmet Odlum

Robert E.Odlum

  • Comment: Moved from user space on June 30 so DYK clock started then

Created by Gildir (talk). Nominated by W Nowicki (talk) at 19:08, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • A very nice article, and a fascinating story. The length and creation date check out. I have also been able to confirm the hook except for the fact that Odlum's jump was the "first." For this fact, the article cites n. 1 which is a lengthy book, but without a page reference. Can you add the page number that verifies Odlum as the first jumper? Cbl62 (talk) 03:46, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Fabian Wrede class training ship

Created by MKFI (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 11:14, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • (article creator here) oppose on this hook; Finland is bilingual, and many Finns have Swedish names. The namesake of the lead ship Fabian Wrede sv:Fabian Casimir Wrede is from the Wrede af Elimä branch of the family, at that time noble families in Finland had practically exclusively Swedish names as it was the language used by the administration and upper class. The names are in use because these officers were involved in the construction of Sveaborg fortress, modern Suomenlinna. MKFI (talk) 12:18, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Paling in 't groen

Eel meat in a green herb sauce in a metal serving dish.

Created by SomeHuman (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 04:22, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Callao Affair

Sketch of a naval frigate.

Created by $1LENCE D00600D (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 02:37, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The second instance of ref #4 is for the attack on the Rampart while the first instance of ref #3 is for the attack on the Macedonian. I have restructured the article. OCNative (talk) 06:12, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Botaniska trädgården (Uppsala)

The orangery of the Botanical Garden in Uppsala

Created by Sharktopus (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 17:22, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

:* Length, date and refs look good. ​​​​​​​​Niagara ​​Don't give up the ship 19:39, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yikes, what hath God wrought? Thanks so much, but I would like to propose a different hook... Sharktopus talk 01:31, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Taking Niagara's suggestion, use ALT3 above. Sharktopus talk 16:44, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of accolades received by The Young Victoria

Created by Ruby2010 (talk). Self nom at 23:48, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Forest Shely Ruby2010 comment! 23:57, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Redstone Test Stand

a metal gantry structure enclosing a missile and test equipment

5x expanded by Mattise135 (talk). Nominated by Dravecky (talk) at 10:37, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pabasa (ritual)

Filipino devotees performing the reading and chanting ritual.

  • ... that the Pabasa is a chanting marathon practiced during Holy Week in the Philippines?

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 04:14, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks. I am just providing ALT 1 below, wherein I added "(pictured)" in case it may pass with an image (above right). Without the image is fine with me, if that is the case also. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:48, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I made a smaller version of your image, cropped square and with contrast enhanced, to show more detail at 100x100.

Sharktopus talk 20:44, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Aparados da Serra National Park

Itaimbézinho Canyon in Brazil

5x expanded by Elekhh (talk). Self nom at 02:47, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Liberty Place

5x expanded by Medvedenko (talk). Self nom at 02:11, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Nice article and interesting hook. Corrected spelling to "gentlemen's" for consistency. I would also suggest removing the wikilink from "Pennsylvania" as not so relevant here. However, according to the new rules (see #5) you need to review another DYK. --Elekhh (talk) 02:34, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks, all criteria met now. Regarding Alt1 below, I'm neutral. I think the original hook is consistent with the common language used in architecture. --Elekhh (talk) 09:27, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Something grammatically wrong with the hook, which suggest an inanimate object in itself is capable of reaching or breaching any sort of agreement. Suggest:

Oliver Valentine

  • ... that in a special episode of the UK medical drama Holby City, unqualified doctor Oliver Valentine was permitted to continue practising medicine illegally?

Created by Raintheone (talk), Frickative (talk). Self nom at 08:48, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • HOOK: good interest factor. But please correct the spelling to UK: "practising". ARTICLE: can you choose – either spaced en dashes—or unspaced em dashes – not both? Some of the page ranges have - just a spaced hyphen. Please see WP:MOSDASH. I'm concerned about (1) the vid refs that aren't available in my geographical regions, so I can't verify them; (2) why minutes and seconds are not provided in the refs for these presumably quite long vid interviews; and (3) whether the text that is not within quotes is in fact paraphrasing what is said, not word for word. Please respond to query 3 in particular.Rule D2: One ref tag per paragraph is standard. Some of the ref tags are consecutively repeated, and could be rationed a bit. They can cast back in the text a fair way. Tony (talk) 16:12, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for the helpful comments! I've hopefully taken care of all the issues raised [16]. (Practicing corrected to practising, consistent spaced en dashes, consecutively repeated refs removed.) Wrt the videos, I hope that WP:SOURCEACCESS means it's acceptable, if not ideal, that they're not available in all regions? They're both less than 2 minutes long, but I've added times, and have altered the content slightly for the main one to add quotes to the references, so you can see that the non-quoted text is indeed paraphrased. Frickative 19:09, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not sure if you are aware of this rule, but there is one that says: If the subject is a work of fiction or a fictional character, the hook must involve the real world in some way. I can't see how this hook complies. Calistemon (talk) 15:11, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oh dear, I wasn't aware of that rule, apologies! A couple of possible alternatives, then:
ALT2 looks better, even if a little corny. The article is better. Tentative . Tony (talk) 16:29, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Capnomancy

5x expanded by All Hail The Muffin (talk). Self nom at 21:36, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There seems to be more references here than actual written material. Can this be expanded? Billy Hathorn (talk) 22:45, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It's been 5x expanded and it has over 1500 characters. Not sure why it needs further expanding. All Hail The Muffin Nor does it taste nice... 10:45, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pennywhistle modem

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 19:09, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed 195th (Airlanding) Field Ambulance, below.

SR Battle of Britain class 21C151 Winston Churchill

Created by Iain Bell (talk). Self nom at 14:32, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As a young train spotter in the 1960s, I remember seeing this loco in the Salisbury depot - I think I took some photos of it, but they are long since lost. I certainly remember the funeral train, and concur with what the hook says. Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 18:07, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Just chipping in to say I loved this hook and had to go read the article. I predict this will get a lot of hits! Sharktopus talk 21:44, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Me too (three?). Great work. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 22:12, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • ARTICLE: Space em dashes should be unspaced (MoS). Are DYK article-links allowed to be section-links? It's a very odd reading experience to land in the middle of an article. HOOK: I didn't know what a headcode was; so the hook expresses an ironic situation? Maybe I'm being thick. Could be good. Sorry to be inconclusive. Tony (talk) 15:52, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
COMMENTS: 1. I have found a couple of online sources, including a contemporary account, and have added them as citations. 2. Spaced em-dashes have now been corrected. – Iain Bell (talk) 11:39, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
COMMENTS: Headcode? Breakdown train? These terms are idioms used in the UK and nowhere else. To this Canuck, the hook is confusing even after reading the articles (the actual answers to these questions are buried). The hook also avoids mentioning the V for Victory salute, which seems to be the whole point! Perhaps it's not as clever, but...

ALT: ... that Winston Churchill's funeral train used the reporting symbol "V", normally used only by railway cranes?

Articles created/expanded on July 1

BMW F650CS

A soft bag secured inside a compartment on top of a motorcycle.

  • ... that the 2001 BMW F650CS (pictured) motorcycle's offbeat, "iMac-inspired" styling was meant to attract non-motorcyclists of the extreme sports generation?

5x expanded by Dennis Bratland (talk). Self nom at 20:52, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Waggonfabrik Talbot

The Talent, a multiple unit passenger train

  • ... that the Talent (pictured), a multiple unit passenger train in the rail system of Germany, Austria and Norway, was developed by Waggonfabrik Talbot in Aachen?

Created by Imgaril (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 20:35, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Dorice Reid

Created by Scanlan (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 03:11, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Leitzersdorf

Created by Lajbi (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 03:03, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Louis Agassiz Shaw Junior, Quincy Adams Shaw

Hospital staff examining a patient in an iron lung respirator during the 1960 polio epidemic.

5x expanded by DiverDave (talk). Nominated by DiverDave (talk) at 20:35, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Jean Thurel

Jean Thurel (1699-1807), portrait by Antoine Vestier in 1788

  • Comment: The article syas that he joined at age 16, was a member for 92 years, and died at 107; presumably this means that he was in for the year he was 16, the year he was 17, etc., which makes 92 years overall.

Created by UltimaRatio (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 02:51, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and date OK, hook supported by inline citation, references check out. Interesting article! I have taken the liberty of adding an image. This will generate much more interest in the article. DiverDave (talk) 20:27, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

William Van Wagoner

Van Wagoner riding a bicycle

Created by Nconwaymicelli (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 01:27, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I have made a ton of copyedits and more need to be done. Also, the reference for the hook (ref. #3 in the current version) is incomplete--there may be something wrong in the template. The actual source has no online link so I can't check that right now; perhaps there is an online link that is lost in the template. But honestly, I don't want to copyedit anymore. Author should look at correct comma usage ("place, state" is always followed by a comma, and so are dates in the US format; I corrected a couple of incorrect "however" punctuations; many things are italicized that shouldn't be). A proper scrubbing, and a check for that reference, is required. Drmies (talk) 20:57, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Do you mean the citation to The New Illustrated Encyclopedia of Automobiles? Besides the necessary indication of the article being cited (which, indeed, is quite important), there's no need for anything else in that citation, as far as I can see. But then, I am falling asleep (walked all over Terre Haute, Indiana today, getting photos of 50 different historic sites!), so I could perhaps be missing something that should be obvious. Nyttend (talk) 05:19, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • When I looked at it, note 3 looked like this: "David Burgess Wise publisher=. The New Illustrated Encyclopedia of Automobiles." It looks better now, but it really needs a page number. Drmies (talk) 19:01, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ellef Ringnes, Amund Ringnes (brewery owner, 1840)

A man in his sixties, with little hair on his head but with a large beard. He is wearing a blazer.

  • ALT1:... that the Norwegian brewery owners Ellef and Amund Ringnes (pictured) have had two islands in Canada named after them?

Created by Eisfbnore (talk). Self nom at 21:21, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • for ALT1. Length and date look ok. I prefer ALT1 because it's more interesting; it's not very surprising or unusual that brewery owners would have a brewery. rʨanaɢ (talk) 21:31, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Moorman

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 20:53, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Martin Camaj

  • ... that Martin Camaj's novel Rrathë is considered to be the first psychological novel in Albanian?

Created by ZjarriRrethues (talk). Self nom at 20:04, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

John Rowan (Kentucky)

A man with short, dark hair wearing a black jacket and tie and a high-collared white shirt

5x expanded by Acdixon (talk). Self nom at 16:37, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


National Churches Trust

  • ... that since 2005 the National Churches Trust has distributed more than £9 million to over 1,000 churches in the UK?

5x expanded by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 09:40, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I suggest you add a note that this trust is located in England; as I read this from America, something seems not quite right. Maybe Wikipedia has no problem with this -- this is the first time I've been involved with DYK -- but it also sounds a bit free-PR to me. You might be able to say the same about my nomination today, but when it comes to donations and do-gooding... it's a little more sensitive. Nice work on the article, though.--Jp07 (talk) 11:10, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Added "in the UK" to the hook. I don't understand the comments about "free-PR" and "do-gooding". The article is about a registered charity, and I have tried to write a factual account of its history, functions and finance-raising activities. It is in no way an advertisement any more than comparable articles on other charities (for example, see Historic Chapels Trust). --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 11:00, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, understand that I come from a journalism background. Newspapers tend to avoid going out of their way to cover things that make notable people, i.e. politicians, or corporations/charities look good because the philosophy is that they ought to be paying for that recognition (i.e. in an advertisement) -- especially when this recognition comes on the front page of the newspaper (or in this case, Wikipedia). Recognizing the do-gooding of one person kind of requires you to recognize the good things that everyone else does, too, if you want to be fair, and that just kind of gets messy/impossible; failing to be fair leads to reader perceptions of bias. But like I said, that may not be something people worry about in this medium; I recognize that newspapers and Wikipedia are two different beasts. Not an accusation, just thoughts.--Jp07 (talk) 12:06, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Another thought: I'm not saying anything about this organization or its motives because I know nothing about it, but you find yourself feeling very guilty when it turns out that the motives of a charity are less than noble. This has happened to me before after writing a newspaper article about a charity. I later found out this charity had some questionable practices, and I felt like I assisted them in misleading people. So at least for newspapers, I feel like its best practice to avoid "free PR."--Jp07 (talk) 12:13, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I object strongly to the comments above. This nothing to do with an organisation with "less than noble" motives; it's about maintaining the physical structure of historic British buildings. Perhaps I should have said more about the people involved; please see this page. Yes there is a difference between writing for an encyclopedia and journalism (and I've done both). May I please have a proper review from a different editor for this suggestion.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 14:46, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I do not see what the problem is here. It is a simple statement of fact and helping preserve medieval churches is hardly at the sexy end of charity work. We cannot avoid giving any publicity at all to charities or commercial companies.--Charles (talk) 16:51, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Long Gone (film)

Created by Spy007au (talk). Self nom at 06:51, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • creation date, size, hook and sourcing all confirmed. Prose is acceptable, but hook is too long and too distracting with all those rival movie links.

propose:

  • Just my opinion, but I still prefer my original hook. But I'm happy to go with the flow and majority of view. Also, the picture has dropped off, but is still refered to in both hooks. Spy007au (talk) 23:23, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The hook has "(pictured)" but where is the picture? And is the picture freely usable? - AnakngAraw (talk) 23:28, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The article's only image is fair use, so it's unacceptable here. I've removed (pictured) from both hooks. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 06:46, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Beauchamp

Created by SarahStierch (talk). Self nom at 04:47, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • creation date, size, hook and sourcing all confirmed. Prose is acceptable. However, sections named 'Notable exhibitions' and 'Notable collections' seem out of place: whilst true that those galleries and collections in themselves are notable, there's something wrong with listing them in this way – there's no mention of the theme and dates of exhibitions, nor the works which are in these respective collections; no sources. Just remove these sections and we're good to go. --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 14:01, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You'll have to remove those from the majority of the art history articles I have been writing since 2006! Never had anyone mention a problem until now. SarahStierch (talk) 14:50, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"the majority of the art history articles I have been writing since 2006" are not being evaluated for DYK, this one is. --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 16:42, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, have to agree with Ohconfucius on this. It's been an issue at FAC, I believe, some time ago. Perhaps now is the time to update in this respect, and you might revisit the others when you do routine audits from time to time (necessary after a few years, anyway). HOOK: Suggestion, why not finish on "girl"? Punchier, more catchy? Tony (talk) 16:48, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A.Q. Miller School of Journalism and Mass Communications

Created by Jp07 (talk). Self nom at 10:31, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural question by nominator

  • No, no. Someone else will come along and move it for you. The queues are typically filled by age of article (with some variation for geographic and topical balance), so it will be a few days (or more) before it is moved. OCNative (talk) 13:47, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Warring States

Created by EdwardZhao (talk). Self nom at 21:11, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 2

Plaza of the Seven Temples

A small stepped pyramid flanked by the ruins of other stepped pyramids against a forest backdrop.

Created by Simon Burchell (talk). Self nom at 12:34, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Theil–Sen estimator

Created by David Eppstein (talk). Self nom at 17:31, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ian Oliver

Created by TheRetroGuy (talk). Self nom at 12:03, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Llanwrthw

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Martinevans123 (talk). Self nom at 09:21, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Eagle Hotel (Waterford, Pennsylvania)♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:34, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No Walls

  • ... that No Walls "hit a rather huge wall"?

Created by Shaneymike (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 05:47, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • This is a nice, catchy hook. And the date of creation checks out. However, I'm somewhat concerned that, as it presently stands, about half of the article consists of a very long block quote from a copyrighted blog site called "Introverted Loudmouth." I'm not sure whether the blog site is a reliable source and would appreciate input from someone more familiar with Wiki policy on blogs. Also, I think the block quote should be cut back and the article expanded with material that does not consist of copyrighted quotations, before it is featured on the main page. If I'm misunderstanding the policy on such extensive use of block quotes, someone should feel free to correct me. Cbl62 (talk) 07:32, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thx for reviewing :) The blockquote is not considered as article prose; accordingly, it is omitted by DYKcheck which then indicates a prose size of 1580. Size is good... I'm not sure about the blog site question, though. heh Rcej (Robert) – talk 03:58, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
My concern is not that the article doesn't meet the bare minimum requirement of 1500 characters. Rather, my concern is with copyright (using such a lengthy quote from a copyrighted article) and with the reliability of the particular blog as a source. Anyone familiar with the "Introverted Loudmouth" site? Is it reliable? Shouldn't the blockquote be trimmed? Is there a guideline on how long a quote from copyrighted material may be without stepping over the boundaries of "fair use"? Wikipedia:Non-free content doesn't specify a particular limit on block quotes from non-free sources, but this one (at 1650 characters) seems to push the limit. Cbl62 (talk) 21:53, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The "Introverted Loudmouth" blog is the creation of Brian Walsby. According to Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources, self-published sources such as blogs "are largely not acceptable." On the other hand, "Self-published material may be acceptable when produced by an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications." Here, I searched Google news, Google news archive, Google books, and Google scholar, and found 0 hits in which a mainstream third-party publication has cited or discussed the "Introverted Loudmouth" blog. A handful of articles about Walsby seem to be principally about his work as a cartoonist/drummer rather than a music critic. I'm inclined to think the source in this case does not meet reliability standards. Cbl62 (talk) 22:11, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Voyeurs & Savages

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 01:53, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bahamas Institute of Chartered Accountants, Institute of Chartered Accountants of Guyana, Institute of Chartered Accountants of Jamaica, Institute of Chartered Accountants of the Caribbean, Cayman Islands Society of Professional Accountants

  • Reviewed: Ujjani Dam ([23])
  • Comment: I think this one only gets used if there is a real shortage of other possibilities :~)

Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 01:34, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Red or Black?

A head and shoulders shot of a white Caucasian male wearing a black suit. He has short cropped hair.

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 22:54, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article length and date ok, hook length and hook fact verified. Sasata (talk) 05:58, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Svið

A severed sheep's head on a plate with mashed turnips and mashed potatoes

  • ... that Svið (pictured), a traditional Icelandic dish, consists of a sheep's head that has been cut in half, singed and boiled with the brain removed?

Created by Schneelocke (talk). Nominated by Prioryman (talk) at 22:46, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: Bushy-tailed olingo. Prioryman (talk) 22:48, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
DYK requirements met. Accepting offline source in good faith. - AnakngAraw (talk) 01:44, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Article now has a lot of issues like citations, based on history of another reviewer. Must meet those first. Sorry. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:23, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'll have a look through the article to see if I can sort these out myself - it should be possible. Leave the nomination here for a day or two more, please. Prioryman (talk) 00:32, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bushy-tailed olingo

Bushy-tailed olingo

5x expanded by Anaxial (talk). Self nom at 21:54, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Eagle Hotel (Waterford, Pennsylvania)

A large, grey stone building

Created by Niagara (talk). Self nom at 19:45, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good job.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:34, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Duchy of Opole and Racibórz

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 18:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Museum of Broken Relationships

Created by GregorB (talk). Self nom at 17:11, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: the "most innovative museum in Europe" may be a slight oversimplification of the nature of the award, which is clearly described in the article - I'll defer to the reviewers judgment here. GregorB (talk) 17:23, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Martin Wines

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 15:49, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Micronecta scholtzi

  • ... that the penis of the Lesser Water Boatman Micronecta scholtzi creates mating calls of 99.2 decibels, making it the loudest animal on earth, scaled for its size?

5x expanded by Androstachys (talk), Mgiganteus1 (talk). Nominated by AshLin (talk) at 12:39, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Structures built by animals

Long-Tailed Tit adds a feather to its cup-shaped nest built of moss, feathers, lichens and spider silk.

Created by AshLin (talk). Self nom at 12:04, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Removed stub template & upgraded WikiProject banner assessment to C class as desired. Thank you. Anything else, please. AshLin (talk) 18:52, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"(pictured)" now in italics per DYK rules. Not sure about the image, though, not too illustrative at this resolution. GregorB (talk) 19:59, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Went to great trouble to locate this image, find someone who graciously changed his license so that it could be loaded to Commons. Other images of Long-tailed Tit on Commons, except for this and a similar one, are available but not of a bird on the nest. May kindly consider the hook but without the image as I am unable in India to get another image of this European bird on nest. AshLin (talk) 02:50, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Good to go as far as I am concerned, the pic is probably not going to make it to the main page, I agree it is not very clear as a thumb :( --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:00, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Katrina Dunn

Created by Agent 86 (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 09:04, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • New and of adequate size.
  • Fact verified and correctly cited. Adequate citation, no red links. Meets criteria of BLP.
  • Not a self-nomination hence no review required of author/nominator.
  • AshLin (talk) 10:22, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Carl Prine

Created by Silver seren (talk). Self nom at 06:13, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I reviewed And the Land Lay Still. SilverserenC 06:14, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Date, length are both fine, but the hook info is not cited in the article. Basically the hook is in the lede, but it is not repeated in the "career" section where there is an in-line citation at the end of the paragraph. Basically, add a cite to the sentence in the lede, or add the info to the career section and have an inline cite at the end of that sentence. On another note, if you can find a more interesting hook, I would go with it. Perhaps something along the lines that journalist/solider Prine was accused by railroad companies of telling terrorists how to attack US railroads. Aboutmovies (talk) 07:22, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, how about...
(Alt1) ... that military investigative reporter Carl Prine was accused by the Railroad Development Corporation's owner, Henry Posner, of "profiting from the promotion of hysteria"?
Does that work? SilverserenC 07:37, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Good now, though note I added the name of the person who said it, as the SF paper article does not make it clear he said it in his role with the company or simply as commentary in general. Aboutmovies (talk) 08:11, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sam Stein

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 03:49, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Demolition of Dhul Khalasa

Created by User:Misconceptions2 (talk). Self nom at 21:49, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, greatly appreciated. if anyone else wants to make changes feel free, or kindly give your thoughts on alternate hooks--Misconceptions2 (talk) 21:00, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please feel free to propose any changes--Misconceptions2 (talk) 21:51, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Portia labiata

5x expanded by Philcha (talk). Self nom at 10:25, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 3

Quiet Birdmen

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 20:31, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article seems fine, but I don't think the hook is effective. At least refer to the Birdmen as a secret aviation society. Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:35, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yak butter

A large ball of yak butter has been cut open for display on an outdoor table.

  • ... that yak butter stays edible up to a year and finds a new use after it gets old and rancid?

Created by Sharktopus (talk), Green Cardamom (talk). Self nom at 18:42, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Supercomputing in Japan

  • ... that a supercomputer in Japan became the world's fastest again in July 2011, seven years after Japan held the title in 2004?
Created by History2007 (talk). Self nom at 19:18, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT... the world's fastest supercomputer in Japan costs $10 million a year to operate?
Comment: Here are the two newspaper articles for the hook: NY Times and Telegraph. History2007 (talk) 18:53, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


God Makes the Rivers to Flow

statue of elephant (metaphor for the inner potential releasable by meditation)

Burg Lockenhaus

Aerial view of Burg Lockenhaus
  • ... that Elizabeth Báthory, known as the "Blood Countess" because of her reign of terror, torturing, and murdering hundreds of women, once resided at the Burg Lockenhaus (pictured)?

5x expanded by Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 11:36, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Church of St. Nikolaus, Lockenhaus

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 05:34, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Omura Shrine

Created by Bamse (talk). Self nom at 22:41, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Friends with Kids

Created by Crystal Clear x3 (talk). Self nom at 21:59, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My Sad Republic

  • ... that My Sad Republic is a novel about a Filipino war hero and mystic who proclaimed himself as the Pope of a Philippine island?

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 21:12, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Suggested alt hooks:
ALT1: ... that the novel My Sad Republic is about a general and landowner who wants a Philippine island to become a territory of the United States?
ALT2: ... that the novel My Sad Republic is about a Filipino war hero and mystic who wants to return the Philippines to its pre-colonial status?
ALT3: ... that the novel My Sad Republic has a love scene depicted as if a Spanish priest was inserting a sacred host into the lips of a female's sex organ?
Hope any of the above will work. - AnakngAraw (talk) 21:18, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT4: ... that the novel My Sad Republic has a love scene depicted as if a friar was inserting a sacramental bread into a female's sex organ? - AnakngAraw (talk) 13:50, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT5: ... that the novel My Sad Republic has a dash of "friar erotica" in it? - AnakngAraw (talk) 17:13, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lockenhaus Chamber Music Festival

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 19:57, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: I would prefer the hook without the addition about Kremer, which is an offline source of 1986 and sounds POV. The link can tell better who he is (for those who really don't know him), perhaps just add "violinist" before the name, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:38, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
appr alt1 BarkingMoon (talk) 22:30, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Victoria Fyodorova, Jackson Tate, Zoya Fyodorova, The Admiral's Daughter

Created by Frank (talk). Self nom at 19:19, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gorno-Altai Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic

Created by Σ (talk). Self nom at 18:11, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date is right, but the length is a questionable, being very short. You're well under the 1500 characters necessary for inclusion. This article should be expanded. If it doesn't have a map, it should give information about what oblasts, republics ,and countries (in this case, China) border it. What ethno-linguistic and religious groups live there should also be included. NickDupree (talk) 20:25, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Done. --The Σ talkcontribs 22:23, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hook looks good, and you more than fixed the length issue. Congratulations. NickDupree (talk) 22:37, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Flagmen of Lowestoft

Three-quarter painted portrait of a man, facing right, in a brown silk coat, gesturing towards a seascape

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 14:42, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ref for hook checks out. Length seems fine despite quotes and the table of paintings. - AnakngAraw (talk) 22:38, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Carl Legien

  • ... that Carl Legien organized a massive general strike in Germany to counter the right-wing Kapp-Putsch of March 1920?

Created by HerkusMonte (talk). Self nom at 11:22, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Length and hook look good. Nice article!  Frank  |  talk  19:50, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mona Vale, Christchurch

B&w photo of a waterway in a park setting

  • ... that Mona Vale (pictured) in Christchurch, New Zealand, has been a public park since the 1960s, following the threat of subdivision of the property and demolition of the homestead?
  • Reviewed: The Cámpora (diff)
  • Comment: The review is from a wee while back; I haven't nominated anything for some time.

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 06:21, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date and length check out. Photo appears to qualify with Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.0 Generic license. The hook fact appears to be generally supported by the sources. The only quibble is that the source says the property was acquired in 1969 with the intent to operate it is a public park, and doesn't say that it actually opened the site as a public park that same year (as opposed to 1970 or thereafter). To ensure accuracy, maybe consider changing "has been a public since the 1960s ..." to "was turned into a public park ..."? Cbl62 (talk) 07:18, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for the review. See ALT1 below, which takes the suggestion into account, but also keeps the '1960s' bit, as the date of the threat is well supported by the sources. Just a comment on the photo licence - it's uploaded using the flickr bot and the bot is set up to only upload when the photo has the correct licence settings. Schwede66 04:56, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT1 ... that Mona Vale (pictured) in Christchurch, New Zealand, was turned into a public park, following the threat of subdivision of the property and demolition of the homestead in the 1960s?
Evertyhing looks fine now, including the license issue on the photo. Cbl62 (talk) 00:14, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tuber oregonensis

A truffle sliced in had to reveal the marbled brown interior

  • ... that the annual Oregon Truffle Festival is held in late January to coincide with the maturing of the Oregon white truffle (pictured)?

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 06:00, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am unable to find a sentence in article mentioning the original hook. But I am accepting offline source for alt hook 1 in good faith. Length of article is fine, as well as creation date. The image is from commons. Perhaps a hook about how the fungus is beneficial to squirrels will be more interesting? - AnakngAraw (talk) 21:45, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I have included that bit for the original hook in the article text now. Here's the alt you suggested: Sasata (talk) 22:32, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2: … the Oregon white truffle (pictured) is a major component of the diet of Northern flying squirrels?

I still couldn't find the ref/citation for the original hook. But I'd go with ALT2 , which is a cited hook. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:48, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Matthew Jarvis (poker player)

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 03:22, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Wicklow Way

5x expanded by Joe King (talk). Self nom at 18:27, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Loaded Questions (game)

  • ... that over one million copies of Loaded Questions have been sold, though the creator originally had to borrow about $18,000 from his parents and sell the game out of his car's trunk?

Created by Jp07 (talk). Self nom at 22:20, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 4

Anraku-ji (Ueda)

Three-storied wooden pagoda with an octagonal floor plan

  • ... that the only extant octagonal pagoda in Japan (pictured) is located at Anraku-ji?

Created by Bamse (talk). Self nom at 21:13, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Horsham Unitarian Church

A two-storey brick building with a porch and a tiled roof, resembling a cottage and set in a garden with trees and gravestones

  • ... that Elizabeth Gatford, who endowed a charity which distributed bread to the poor at Horsham General Baptist Chapel (pictured), was buried in four coffins?

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 20:41, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Sotir Kolea

Created by ZjarriRrethues (talk). Self nom at 17:53, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Schooner Hotel

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 12:01, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed The Jed Foundation.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:05, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Tornadoes in New England

A tornado which killed three people in the Springfield, Massachusetts area on June 1, 2011.

Created by User:Runningonbrains (talk). Self nom at 23:11, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


First Lady of the World

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 22:43, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Józef Tusk

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 19:58, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Philip Showalter Hench, Edward Calvin Kendall

5x expanded by Canada Hky (talk). Self nom at 19:26, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gray-crowned Rosy Finch

A gray-headed, brown and rose colored finch on a flower

Created/expanded by BarkingMoon (talk). Self nom at 19:24, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

5x expanded (984-5383) BarkingMoon (talk) 19:26, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
reviewed: Jeff Mellinger BarkingMoon (talk) 19:26, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
All checks out, and no problem with using image. Moonraker (talk) 02:12, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Ach Herr, mich armen Sünder, BWV 135

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 15:35, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1:... that bass voice and trombone carry the cantus firmus of a famous chorale melody in the opening chorus of Bach's cantata Ach Herr, mich armen Sünder, BWV 135? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:23, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Characteristic, but way too long: "This is a good example; scrupulously shaped and crafted, ranging over nearly three octaves and carried forward through jagged shapes whilst radiating an unprecedented vigour and all the time reflecting the imagery of the text." - the music is in the source, recommended. We might also express somehow that the cantata is #4 of a sequence of four cantatas in about two weeks, with the cantus firmus first in the soprano (for 11 June 1724), then in the alto (for 18 June), then in the tenor (for 24 June), now in the bass (for 25 June), - but I wouldn't know how. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:49, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

An Embarrassment of Riches

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 15:34, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Introduction of the Fußball-Bundesliga

Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 14:56, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Three Emperors Dinner

Created by ShipFan (talk). Self nom at 06:25, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and foreign language source verified, good to go. Calistemon (talk) 15:02, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff Mellinger

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 03:12, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

added comma after era, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:05, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Burmese–Siamese War (1765–1767)

Created by Hybernator (talk). Self nom at 01:02, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Good-Morrow

Passemant Astronomical clock

Created by Whiteghost.ink (talk). Self nom at 11:46, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good The Land (talk) 12:53, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Like a Prayer (song)

  • ... that Pepsi, who cancelled their sponsorship deal with Madonna, following the controversy surrounding her music video for the song "Like a Prayer", allowed her to retain the fee of $ five million?

5x expanded by Legolas2186 (talk). Self nom at 14:55, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • 5X expansion looks OK, with some explanation. The version prior to Legolas2186's edits is 2082 words, and the current version is 9272. The intervening edit removes about 300 words of unsourced material. Given the large expansion, and the attempt to keep things properly cited, I have no issues with expansion, but if anyone else wants to chime in, feel free. The hook is cited to an offline source, but AGF on that. I would suggest the following ALT, which is a bit "punchier" for lack of a better term:
  • Thank you Canada Hky. I'm fine with the hook that you proposed, it really looks better than what I had initially posted. As for the source regarding the hook, there is also an online source accompanying the offline source, from People magazine. — Legolas (talk2me) 03:57, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Siege of Wiener Neustadt

Created by Lajbi (talk). Self nom at 17:31, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 5

Aya Sameshima

Created by Number 57 (talk). Self nom at 21:03, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fay Ajzenberg-Selove

Fay Ajzenberg-Selove receiving the 2007 National Medal of Science

Created/expanded by Gamaliel (talk). Self nom at 21:02, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

With the exception of the first sentence about Haverford College, that entire paragraph is about the discrimination case and all of it is drawn from the two citations at the end of the paragraph. The hook is a summary of that paragraph and I'm not sure how to address this issue other than by citing each sentence in that paragraph with the same two citations, as I have done. Gamaliel (talk) 21:19, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Now good to go. Number 57 21:41, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Gamaliel (talk) 21:43, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: Schooner Hotel

Robert W. Glover

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 20:22, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Quiet Birdmen

The Teddy Bear Master

Created by TheRetroGuy (talk). Self nom at 16:01, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of colonial buildings and structures in Jakarta

Created by Rochelimit (talk). Self nom at 14:42, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

UAAP Season 74 basketball tournaments

  • Comment: Suggested day: July 10

Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 14:01, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Platanthera holochila

Created by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 05:26, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • This barely makes it but I'd recommend some more expansion up to 1,700 characters before it goes on queue. Surely you can find something on the local papers? –HTD 14:05, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pierrepont School, Frensham

Created by Moonraker (talk). Self nom at 02:15, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Pete Gray (activist)

Created by Aridd (talk). Self nom at 17:42, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Alternative hook: ... that environmental activist Pete Gray, who died of cancer six months after publicly throwing his shoes at former Prime Minister John Howard, obtained that his shoes be auctioned for the Red Cross? Aridd (talk) 17:42, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Special occasion holding area

Please do not nominate new articles for a special time in this section. Instead, nominate them in the candidate entries section above, under the date the article was created or the expansion began, and indicate your request for a specially timed appearance on the main page.
Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated (i) within five days of creation or expansion, as usual, and (ii) between five days and six weeks before the occasion, to give reviewers time to check the nomination. April Fools' Day is an exception to these requirements; see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.

July 7, "Today's document challenge"

Opposition to the overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom

An aged document, signed by Queen Liliuokalani, addressed to the United States House of Representatives

Created/expanded by fetchcomms (talk). Nominated by Resident Mario (talk) at 16:29, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Yeah, Jack London is great. I read it several years ago, but I remember that some of those are definitely better than others, though... if you get back to it, the stories that start out boring usually finish that way, so you can probably skip those :). And I think I had a modern edition that had extra stories in it.--Jp07 (talk) 12:41, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Guys, the image is a problem, I think. DYK image rule: "Suitable, attractive, and interesting at 100 × 100px." If only main page would allow us to put in bigger pics when appropriate. Is the queen pic possible instead? ARTICLE: "power-grabs" ... bit informal, even POV? "Many of these foreigners bought up Hawaiian land and invested themselves in the lucrative Hawaiian sugar industry." Should "themselves" be removed? (I'm confused.) "which stripped the king of"—stripped him of? Remove "Later,". Could one of your pics go at the top of the article? Merge a couple of those mini-paras in the second section, possibly. HOOK: Bit stuffed full of info (I have indigestion). Would you consider making a hook out of this juicy phrase? "and pushing Hawaii into turmoil". Tony (talk) 15:44, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • This submission is part of the NARA's Today's document challenge. The image is a file from the National Archives and Records Administration that was uploaded, at fetchcomms' request, to Wikipedia, for use, as part of the challenge, in the article. As stated in the terms, the challenge entitles using that document in a DYK'd article and then putting it on the main page the same day as the that document is featured, here on July 7th. Fetchcomms had to run because of IRL things; he tapped Dominic and Dominic tapped me, so here I am. That being said, I'm unsure about the hook; can anyone find a better one more closely related to the document? Thanks. ResMar 16:29, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • As a textural document, it is understandable that the image of the letter is not very visually appealing, especially in a small size. You shouldn't worry about trying to force it in to conform to the challenge's guidelines. The other image (at right) is also a possibility. Dominic·t 16:42, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

July 10

Terry Fullerton

Created by Donnie Park (talk). Self nom at 22:23, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All aspects checked. But please cover all of the bare links. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:32, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I was going to fill them in but sice it has been done, I wish to thank Materialscientist for helping to cover all the bare link which I forgot to do yesterday. Donnie Park (talk) 16:32, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ready to be DYK'd. - AnakngAraw (talk) 17:27, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Did you read it at all? --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 09:42, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Another editor might disagree with another editor's review, but never doubt it if I ever read an article or not, because I do read articles. This is why this site is a wiki. - AnakngAraw (talk) 02:47, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • It seems that I may have hurt your pride, which I regret. There may be subjective dividing lines between "good" prose and "exceptional" prose, but I don't think there is anything all that subjective about the "poor" and unparseable prose I objected to. Your approval of the article left that as the big question in my mind. I would also mention that I fail to see what "This is why this site is a wiki" got to do with anything. There are Featured Articles, Good Articles, stubs, blatant promotion and vandalism here too... --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 07:11, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Totally disagree. The prose of this article is unfit for front page listing as it stands. For example, the first paragraph of the biography doesn't parse at all: When his brother, Alec, was killed in a motorcycle racing accident at Mallory Park in 1964, Terry took the decision not to graduate to automobile racing to spare his family of further anguish[2] and have remained racing karts throughout his career as he saw the incentive to remain was enough for him., and there is more where this came from – including several sentences with non sequiturs. Do not pass go, do not collect ₤200. --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 09:38, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I now fixed the article, hope it is okay, may I now hand in my Get Out of Jail card. Donnie Park (talk) 16:48, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • You've landed on Park Lane, and I have several hotels on it! ;-) The problems of poor prose abound in the article, and redundancies like this still remain: He became the first British karting champion in 1973 when he won the 1973 Karting World Championship. Not to mention typos such as "sucess". --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 02:03, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

AnakngAraw does good work here. But in this article, the prose is a big problem.

"Although Fullerton is British, he raced under an Irish license in 1967, due to that he did not make it through driver selection despite finishing second during a meeting. As his bloodline is Irish, meaning that he is entitled to hold an Irish license. He competed in the World Championships with limited sucess and again in the following year."

See my user page top box for a link to "How to find good copy-editors". Independent eyes are always useful. Tony (talk) 07:28, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I have done what I can at this time, I hope that is good enough, any feedback is welcome and thanks to Ohconfucius for his help, and oh, I hope he lands on my Mayfair one day and face a hefty bill. Donnie Park (talk) 12:54, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have no outstanding issues: I've copyedited it some more, and I think the prose is acceptable now. Now I have to get back to building some more hotels on Park Lane so I can lure more rich tourists! --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 08:02, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

July 12

Leroy Petry

U.S. Army soldier Leroy Petry in uniform

Created by TomPointTwo (talk), RightCowLeftCoast (talk). Nominated by Jwillbur (talk) at 00:42, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: I listed the article creator (TomPointTwo) and the most prolific editor (RightCowLeftCoast) as the authors, but a number of others have added to the article as well. Also, can this item be held until the date of the presentation ceremony, July 12? — jwillbur 00:54, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, impeccable timing. Items can be held for a maximum of six weeks, and this article was created exactly six weeks before July 12. If the nominator consents to my ALT hook (or proposes another ALT hook), I will be happy to move this to the Special Occasion Holding Area (the ALT obviously only works on July 12):
ALT1... that today, Leroy Petry (pictured) becomes only the second living soldier to receive the Medal of Honor for actions after the end of the Vietnam War? OCNative (talk) 05:37, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Your alt hook looks great, thank you. — jwillbur 06:32, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Based on Ruby2010's approval of the date, length, and references for this nomination, this is approved with ALT1 and moved to the Special Occasion Holding Area for July 12. OCNative (talk) 03:03, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps it should say 'American' or 'U.S.' somewhere in the hook. The Medal of Honor link should be changed also, as it points to a dab page. --Soman (talk) 01:38, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I had typed Medal of Honour... anyway, it is still a bit ambigous. There are various other medals with similar names. --Soman (talk) 01:40, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
How about Congressional Medal of Honor or the U.S. Congressional Medal of Honor? While technical incorrect, that moniker has always been specificially associated with this particular American military decoration. Also, using the link Congressional Medal of Honor will re-direct the reader to the appropriate article. Marcd30319 (talk) 18:25, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't realize this discussion was still going on here. I'm hesitant to use "Congressional" to perpetuate a common misnomer, particularly when anyone who knows the term Congressional Medal of Honor will also understand the term Medal of Honor. How about this ALT adding U.S. in front of Medal of Honor:
ALT2... that today, Leroy Petry (pictured) becomes only the second living soldier to receive the U.S. Medal of Honor for actions after the end of the Vietnam War? OCNative (talk) 10:56, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

July 26

Tatiana von Metternich-Winneburg

aerial view from the south on Schloss Johannisberg in vineyards and park, Basilika and East Wing to the right

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 20:03, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length OK. Foreign-language hook ref AGF. Two things: Could we identify her somehow? Like: "... that German patron of the arts Tatiana von Metternich-Winneburg..." or "... that Princess Tatiana von Metternich-Winneburg..."? Also, could you review another hook? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 20:23, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • edit conflict: I reviewed #Peter Child[36], took me a moment, smile. "Princess" is fine, German patron of the arts seems a bit too narrow, as she was of Russian origin and a writer, artist and charity benefactor also. You could also say "the last member of the House of Metternich", but that seems a bit longish to me. She died 5 years ago on 26 July, that might be a good date to promote this. I wonder if I should add more details (Berlin years, 600 km treck ...) or leave them in the sources to be discovered by interest readers. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:35, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • OK, I added "Princess" to the hook. If you have the additional biographical information, I think it's good to add it, considering that many of your sources are in German. But the length as it stands now is fine for DYK. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:17, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Additional details are in the Telegraph obituary, available in English (the German sources are minor in length and don't supply much more). I will read the Missie diary and look for more there. What do you think of 26 July? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:44, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, the festival always has impressive flowers on her grave right next to the Basilika (should I mention the location in the article?) on the anniversary of her death. This is a bit like it, thanks. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:51, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

August 9

Virgin Islands dwarf sphaero

A Virgin Islands dwarf sphaero sits on a U.S. dime.

5x expanded by Visionholder (talk). Self nom at 01:07, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See also

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