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GridCars deletion

Username: winstonejordaan Page that was deleted : GridCars Dear Mr Jones, I value you comment that this was advertising, we are a new electric car development company, that will be pioneering a new way of thinking about Mobility. My decision to add this to Wiki was driver by a need to inform people about what we are doing, and to define the meaning of what GridCars will represent. I admit that we have only limited info published at this time, but we are still trying to fully formulate the ideas. I do believe that once the group of us involved have had the time to edit the article (myself, I am not good at writing, but I am a Engineer, and understand the technology) it will be the same as Optimal Energy or indeed Ford, with the only difference that we will be representing a philosophical change in thinking.

We are in no position to advertise, as the first commercial cars will only be in the market in 2013, and before we even start selling, people will have to understand the advantages of commuter cars.

I would like another chance to improve on the article of GridCars, and make it a encyclopedia type entry, it really is not my intention to advertise, but to inform and define.

Thanks Winstone Winstonejordaan (talk) 20:07, 17 June 2010 (UTC) Can you please reply to my email as well : winstone@gridcars.net —Preceding unsigned comment added by Winstonejordaan (talk • contribs) 20:08, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've userfied it for you at User:Winstonejordaan/GridCars, you can move it or have it moved to Article space when finished. Please note conflict of interest and neutral point of view - it's very hard to follow these policies when you are quite involved. I've added an underconstruction template to the top, in theory it could still be proposed for deletion, but most editors are more tolerant to pages in user space.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:34, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank-you, I will try to make it more acceptable, can I call on you for a review in a week or 2. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Winstonejordaan (talk • contribs) 20:49, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, just drop me a note.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:51, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Stone and Holt Weeks Foundation

Hi, You recently deleted a page called The Stone and Holt Weeks Foundation due to copywright infringement. I was wondering if you could undelete the page because I have permission of the people who created the foundation page (stone and holts parents) to create the wikipedia page. If you have any issues with this please email stoneandholtweeksfoundation@gmail.com. Thank you. Caroline Lacey —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coolacey (talk • contribs) 20:30, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't work like that. We cannot validate any claims you make - we don't know who you are or what status you might hold, you are just a user name. We therefore don't do anything, you have to do it all yourself. Please read WP:DCM - the copyright holder has to e-mail Wikipedia from an e-mail address related to the domain that the web content is on - alternatively (and much easier) edit the web page to show an appropriate creative commons license box, and remove any copyright notices. See http://creativecommons.org/ for getting the code for a license box - it needs to be "Public Domain", or "CC-BY" or "CC-BY-SA" to be on Wikipedia (CC-BY-NC-ND, CC-BY-NC-SA, CC-BY-NC, and CC-BY-ND are not acceptable). If you can get the web page changed or obtain an OTRS ticket then I or another admin can restore the page, not before.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:41, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rationale?

You made this edit but didn't really explain why this was removed. Can you explain? (I am watching this page, so please reply here.) — Timneu22 · talk 21:20, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The text is a copyright violation, it cannot stay on Wikipedia - hence the summary "rem CSD and rem copyvio", once the copyright violation was removed then the CSD tag is not valid any more. Had the whole page been a copyvio, then I would have deleted it.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 21:24, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Still looks copyvio to me. — Timneu22 · talk 21:25, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Restoring the blatant copyvio text doesn't help...  Ronhjones  (Talk) 21:28, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My fault. Unintended — Timneu22 · talk 22:26, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

The Copyright Cleanup Barnstar
For mopping up so many of my tagged articles yesterday, and for keeping an eye out for more copyright violations almost every day. VernoWhitney (talk) 13:38, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers! VernoWhitney (talk) 13:38, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much. Well appreciated.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 19:09, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Coord

Thanks for making the edit I requested. --Stepheng3 (talk) 19:44, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your hard work on the code. I'm still on a learning curve with that.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 19:46, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

Thanks for doing the rename to Parable of the Rich Fool. -- Radagast3 (talk) 00:15, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yodel Australia

Hello Ronhjones, A little while ago, you deleted my article on Yodel Australia for "Not enough context to identify article's subject". This was my first attempt at writing an article and I was unaware of all the rules and requirements in writing an article. Since then I have re-written the article, with some help of other Wikipedia users and would like to request you to please review it once again. The article has been written to be unbiased, well-sourced and provide genuine information about Yodel. Currently the updated article is on my user page User:Natkolk/Yodel_Australia. Could you please review, and let me know what you think. I am happy to perform the appropriate changes. Yours sincerely Natkolk (talk) 04:25, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

access to deleted page

A page a was working on last week for my employer was deleted due to copyright problems, the page was for Jonathan Torgovnik. i understand why it was deleted and what i have to change, but im hoping to recover my draft so that i can re-use some of what i wrote that was okay to use and the links that i had included in it. please let me know if this is possible.

thank you, nschilit —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nschilit (talk • contribs) 15:18, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

We cannot allow any copyright material to be seen on Wikipedia. E-mail me if you want to have the draft by alternative means that does not compromise Wikipedia's copyright policy.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:31, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Ok, I understand. I started over and so far have only included a section of the page i want to create and i have also included references for everything, but it was still deleted. can you please let me know what i did wrong this time? Thanks! nschilit —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nschilit (talk • contribs) 18:13, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Wikipedia Signpost: 21 June 2010

Hello Sir. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.21.160.99 (talk) 23:10, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mercury in vaccines

It is a fact that vaccines contain murcury. I was editing the spelling when this was deleted from murcury exposure. wikipedia is best when it has a large amount of information an people need to know the turths about what thir being injected with. a relibal source is the wiki page about vaccines and/or the one about the persevitive compound which has references I linked them. as i can see from your page all you do is delete info why dont you be helpful and add an revise info if there is no refences then do resurch an go find some maby you will lean somthing. i donno why im playing games like this; just this is important(dont take this bad i get kind of adament).fist off what is it what is it dosent work like that yes links go to page page has references if you dont use links you dont care anyways. it the same thing like is best because its just where did this come from oh i can go to it wow magic. really though people are not all dumb and if they are its because of thir vaccines, this is a real issue I dont have time to find references for vaccines causing autism because the real info is denounced and ignored but it dosnt take a lab to see vaccines with murcury started at the same time as autisium and is increasing with increasing number of vaccines. no hard feeling this is improtant if you have time to delete articals why dont you get sources if you have a problem with them of lack of so we all can have easy to accsess information and we can all contribute there is no right and wrong way just stages of evolution unless it is simply destroyed! I dont have time today for sourcing because I am at work. agin no hard feelings, unless you are just an ego concerned about rules, orders, right and wrong —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.212.98.238 (talk) 23:35, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you know so much about it, then you can provide the reliable source that will be required to keep that text in place.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:36, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't work like that. You add the text, and the references have to be added at the same time  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:43, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The policies are there for very good reasons, therefore there is no need not to follow them. If we did not enforce the policies then I can most certainly assure you that there would be no Wikipedia - the unreferenced data that would be added would more than overwhelm the good data many, many times - and people would just stop looking here. As for saying that autism increased at the same time that mercury use increased - I'm afraid that fails clearly under WP:SYNTHESIS, in fact the UK had a different theory - that the autism increase also coincided with the change to a single MMR vaccine, rather than three separate ones, and a lot of parents have been paying for three separate vaccines, rather than the free single one - see MMR_vaccine#Claims_about_autism.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:12, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Florida State University College of Communication and Information

Hi Ron

You deleted some info I posted on the FSU College of Communication & Information page ...

How do I get the info to appear since its legitimate info and I work at the College?

THanks

randeree

ebe@cci.fsu.edu —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.186.73.79 (talk) 19:31, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You can't immediately. The content was deleted for
  1. Copyright violation and
  2. Advertising
Because of the copyvio, it cannot be restores until the material has been formally donated (or the web page tagged with a correct creative commons license) - the full instructions are at donating copyright materials. We have no other way of validating that donation.
Also the content was written like an advertisement, this is also not allowed - please have a look at WP:ADVERT.
As you work there, then it is essential that you read up on conflict of interest, neutral point of view at least. It is extremely difficult to write about one's organisation without violating these policies.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 21:27, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Possible sock

I sw That you reverted an edit on the fetch page from Anakiniman. I had in question yesterday while looking at his contribs. He lookedlike a sock so I added him to a current case That I did for another user that I did not think that was a sock and one more as well. I thought I would just have them check this person out as well. The case is at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/FetchFan21. Checker Fred (talk) 23:29, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Question about a peculiar warning

I'm puzzled over this warning that you left at User talk:Anakiniman. The link that Anakiniman added to FETCH! with Ruff Ruffman was not a spam link. It was in fact the official website of the article's subject. It appears that he was attempting to use it as reference for the change of start date for the last season that aired. The start date of the last season was a point of contention. At the time, September 11, 2009 was supported by a citation added by a sock of User:Simulation12.[1] I confirmed the date and expanded the citation with the correct date,[2] but the sock argued that September 14 was the real start date as September 11 was just a "sneak peek",[3] even though he added nothing in support of that claim. --AussieLegend (talk) 03:43, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The link given (http://www.pbskids.org/fetch/) was inline and tagged to the date "September 11, 2009" - nowhere on that web page can I see that date. It may well be on a sub page, but I'm not going to look through the whole site to find it. Wikipedia data has to be verifiable, and in this case it was not. Therefore the only purpose the link was serving was to just to link to another site - hence I tagged it as a spam link.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 14:55, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Since it's the official website of the subject it can't be tagged as a spam link though. The very first entry on the article's talk page explains why that link was used. Sure, he should have cited properly but the guy only has 25 edits to his name and people with a lot more experience here make that mistake. --AussieLegend (talk) 15:03, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I can assure you that there are plenty of Articles that have had spam links removed which link to "an official website" - there is already an official website link in the Infobox, it didn't need adding again. It was also a revert of a experienced editor who removed the link applied by an IP address, thus that also suggests that the IP has logged in to do the revert, to try to give it more credibility, and he also knows how to undo edits - not the guise of a novice editor. Whatever it was, it just didn't look right - there was some underlying plot, and now he's been tagged as a sockpuppet, it looks like that was correct.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 16:10, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"it didn't need adding again" - It was added as a reference so, although the url was incorrect, it was an appropriate use and I don't think it's assuming good faith to treat the addition as you have. As for the sockpuppet tagging, if you look at the SPI, and the previous SPI that I've linked to, you'll see that there are concerns by multiple editors that the person who tagged him is a sock himself, despite some rather confusing CU results. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this. --AussieLegend (talk) 16:36, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe - I'm not sure about the SPI - that's for others to decide. But it was not just an addition. It was a revert of an existing vandal fighter's removal, which immediately bring concerns as to why it was reverted - hence I checked the reference, saw that the web page had no such data, and reverted back. Whether or not it was spam / vandalism / OR / POV is a grey area, and I just decided to go for the spam message.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 18:49, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

PBSKIDS

Hello Ronhjones, thank you for your contributions on articles related to PBS Kids. I'd like to invite you to become a part of Wikipedia:WikiProject PBSKids, a WikiProject aimed at improving the quality of PBS Kids articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page for more information. Thanks!

WHY DID U DO THAT? THAT WAS A GOOD ONE!

THE SEE ALSO SECTION WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FUEL ECONOMY IN AUTOMOBILES ARTICLE! WHY DID U REVERT IT? THAT WAS RUDE! I WAS TRYING TO FIX IT!!! 98.177.155.42 (talk) 20:58, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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