Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2024 November 5

November 5

File:Navalized prototype Shenyang J-35 stealth fighter.png

The file is an image of a carrier prototype of Shenyang FC-31. We have an abundance of free images on c:Category:Shenyang FC-31, and even the carrier prototype is still here (at least not dismantled) and could be revealed in later public events (such as during Zhuhai Airshow). The file therefore violates WP:NFCC#1, and should be deleted. 廣九直通車 (talk) 04:54, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

there is currently no free equivalent of the carrier prototype of Shenyang FC-31, so in my opinion it does not violate WP:NFCC#1, i think we should Keep it WorldTravleerAndPhotoTaker (talk) WorldTravleerAndPhotoTaker (talk) 10:51, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The essence of WP:NFCC#1 is not whether we have or have not free images of this prototype on Commons as now, but rather of whether we can or cannot get free images. This is why using fair-use image of a living person is usually not allowed here, as we could still photograph the person or request free images from others. As the prototype is still there (and may be further developed and publicized), it is still possible to have it photographed in the future. Of course, if the project were later cancelled and the prototype scrapped, then this image would be justified.廣九直通車 (talk) 11:56, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Has the aircraft been in attendance at any public events? I'm inclined to keep this image unless there is proof that a photo could have been reasonably obtained. If not, this feels similar to Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2010 January 28#File:JD Salinger.jpg in a broad sense. Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 15:43, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:World in Conflict USS Missouri (BB-63).JPG

The file is a screenshot of USS Missouri (BB-63) in the game World in Conflict, where it is used to describe the warship appears in a mission of that game. There is only minimal description in the image box and in text, and the image only serves as an illustration, replicable by free images on c:Category:USS Missouri (BB-63) to illustrate such fact. One should also remember there are already 3 more fair use images in the article.

(Moreover, due to strong reflection, Commons images would be way much better in terms of graphic quality.)

The file therefore violates WP:NFCC#1, WP:NFCC#3a and WP:NFCC#8, and should be deleted. 廣九直通車 (talk) 12:04, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]