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@Yashthepunisher: Dharmadhyaksha just told you to remove the attendees of Mehta like this, "Mehta attended the launch party of the UTV Stars TV show Walk Of The Stars at Olive in Mumbai" and to fix some copyedit/grammar, Not say to remove her performances. And about references, "tellychakkar.com" is RELIABLE as recently tellychakkar team entered in Bigg Boss house to ask questions. The site is using by major news websites like, International Business Times [1]. - "bollywoodlife.com" site is created by leading news channel Zee News with Zee Entertainment Enterprises, so can't say that it's not reliable. - Per Wikipedia:Video links, "Youtube.com" is reliable source if the video link is comes from a official account. The content of section "In the media" is not unnecessary, see first Shahid Kapoor article. - Pinging User:Vensatry, User:Kailash29792, User:FrB.TG, User:Relentlessly for consensus. Akshaytherock (talk) 16:14, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- Content was excessively detailed. This is a GA, not a fan site or a tabloid. WP:FART applies: not every detail is significant; many are not. Drmies (talk) 17:35, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Drmies: Only significant detail? Okay, you just wait.. I'll show something here in few minutes. Akshaytherock (talk) 16:05, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- I've removed excessive and unsignificant details from Shahid Kapoor, a GA article. Applied the same rule as what you done. Akshaytherock (talk) 16:09, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- What are you trying to prove, Akshaytherock? You're turning WP:POINT into total dickishness. Yeah, you totally showed me. SpacemanSpiff, what do you make of this? I know you're a big fan of Ms. Mehta. Or, do you know where this highly combative user comes from, all of a sudden? Drmies (talk) 17:38, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- I've removed excessive and unsignificant details from Shahid Kapoor, a GA article. Applied the same rule as what you done. Akshaytherock (talk) 16:09, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Drmies: Only significant detail? Okay, you just wait.. I'll show something here in few minutes. Akshaytherock (talk) 16:05, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- Please keep all related discussions on GAR page. This one is a community GAR where all can participate. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 02:25, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Dharmadhyaksha: On GAR, really??? The last time I asked something on there, but on one replied. Akshaytherock (talk) 16:02, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Community reassessment
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- Result: delisted 23:13, 13 April 2016 Protonk
Firstly it’s a shame to nominate a recent GA (passed on 7 June 2015) for reassessment and let me point out that the article hasn't been damaged since then, but was passed with these faults itself.
- This biographical article about an actor does not include a single criticism that talks about her "acting". It thus fails the 3a criteria of addressing the main aspects of the topic.
Well in that case you need to take a look here, and see if it has a single negative review about any of his films. The majority of stuff on many actors article that are GA or FA are positive things about the individual. Anyway the lead has the sentence ...but the 2010 show Apno Ke Liye Geeta Ka Dharmayudh met with negative reviews.- OSE! And show meeting negative reviews doesn't say anything about the acting of Mehta, unless it was a one-person show. Even that would be a bad synthesis because a show can go dull for numerous things not related to the acting. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:16, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- These sources are not WP:RS. They need to be replaced.
- Bollywoodlife.com, Youtube.com, Realbollywood.com, Filmibeat.com, Tellychakkar.com, Dekhnews.com, Moviecitynews.com, Thelinkpaper.ca, Gr8mag.com, Pardaphash.com, Punjabupfilms.in,
Bollywoodlife.com has been used on many GA's, same for Filmibeat. They might not be suitable for featured standard article's but are okay for GA level. How come youtube is not a RS? As far as rest are concerned, i'll try to find replacable reliable sources Yashthepunisher (talk) 12:10, 19 October 2015 (UTC)- OSE! Bollywoodlife is linked with Zee Network. Such publicity websites aren't independent. Filmibeat doesn't even have a "about us" section. Anyways, you would need to go to WP:RSN to prove their notability. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:16, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- Bollywoodlife.com, Youtube.com, Realbollywood.com, Filmibeat.com, Tellychakkar.com, Dekhnews.com, Moviecitynews.com, Thelinkpaper.ca, Gr8mag.com, Pardaphash.com, Punjabupfilms.in,
- These are self-published primary sources. Secondary or tertiary sources needs to be included.
- zeetv.com,
Don't see your point here, its a well-known television channel owned and operated by Zee Entertainment Enterprises. Yashthepunisher (talk) 12:10, 19 October 2015 (UTC)- I know. That's why called its a "primary" source. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:16, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- zeetv.com,
- The article isn't really well-written; will cite some example:
- Done Why is she being called comedian in the lead sentence? She participated in one season of Comedy Circus where an actor was paired with a professional comedian to form a team and then contest in the show. Does one such venture make her a "comedian"?
One word "comedian" is a problem according to you? These puny things can be dealt easily, you shouldn't be mentioning them. Yashthepunisher (talk) 12:10, 19 October 2015 (UTC)- If one word doesn't make a problem, can I add one abusive word instead? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:16, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
You should have known this- "Do not waste minutes explaining or justifying a problem that you could fix in seconds. GAR is not a forum to shame editors over easily fixed problems". Stop embarrassing yourself by saying such non-sense and telling me you like geometry. No one gives a fuck. Yashthepunisher (talk) 05:12, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- If one word doesn't make a problem, can I add one abusive word instead? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:16, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- Done Same for dancer and presenter.
- Removed.
- Done "Mehta began her acting debut". That sounds strange phrasing.
- Rephrased.
- Done "Alongside her acting career, Mehta started her anchoring career". So anchoring isn't acting?
- Rephrased.
- Done "Mehta also appeared in reality shows, include Nach Baliye". That sounds strange phrasing.
- Removed.
- Done "While at university, she studied acting under the mentorship of its theatre club." Two things here. If she studied in a college affiliated with the University it does not imply she studied at the university. So no WP:OR please. And who was the mentor here? Is that OR too? Because a club can be of just students interested in acting.
- Removed.
- Done "It also opening well at the U.S. box office grossing ₹20.90 million (US$320,000)". Grammar!
- Reworded.
- Many more... Can't bother mentioning them all.
- I have resolved issues regarding the prose, if there are any more, let me know. Yashthepunisher (talk) 06:08, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- On various occasions the article drifts to page 3 style of writing gossip columns and writes trivia. This fails 3b for not staying focused on topic
- Done "On 28 March 2012, Mehta attended the launch party of the UTV Stars TV show Walk Of The Stars, along with Ravi Dubey, at Olive in Mumbai,[35] and also attended the Prestigious Television Awards function, where she was nominated and announced as the winner."
- Removed and concised. Yashthepunisher (talk) 12:34, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- Done "In 2013, Mehta appeared at film music launch party of Issaq at Mumbai, India, along with Dubey on 18 June 2013."
- Removed.
- Done "In August 2013, Mehta attended the launch party of Bindass' romantic drama programme Yeh Hai Aashiqui in Mumbai, India. On September 2013, she attended the South Africa India Film and Television Awards - SAIFTA award function in Durban, South Africa".
- "Mehta attended Star Plus's Holi festival special titled Masti Gulal Ki, along with Dubey on March 2014".
- Done "In August of that year, she attended the launch event of Sony television's new Hindi entertainment channel Sony Pal."
- Done "On 30 November 2014, she appeared at an award function of Zee TV's Zee Rishtey Awards, and in January 2015, Mehta attended the television stars cricket league of Sony television's Box Cricket League. She attended the semi-final match of the Delhi Dragons and the Ahmedabad Express, supporting their friends of the Ahmedabad Express team."
- Done "On 14 December 2014, Mehta performed on the stage of Colors television's music show Mirchi Top 20, where she danced on a Punjabi song. The show hosted by Manish Paul and Bharti Singh, and presented by Vodafone Music."
- Done "Mehta has maintained a Instagram account,[68] and a Twitter account since 2012."
- I have removed all of the above. Yashthepunisher (talk) 05:55, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- I still haven't checked whether all the claims made are actually present in the linked references. But a few references are video links of TV shows or Youtube videos and such primary sources are not acceptable.
- It's only "not acceptable", when the publisher is unknown.
- See zee tv reply above. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:16, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- Most of the content is coming from interviews of the subject and that’s absolutely non-neutral, failing criteria 4.
§§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 10:14, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- If a website has a Wikipedia article, it should be considered reliable. In this case, Filmibeat redirects to Oneindia. So I think it passes WP:RS. Kailash29792 (talk) 10:46, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- Not necessarily. Our article on Oneindia is merely a stub with no reliable sources whatsoever. —Vensatry (ping) 10:53, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- And Kailash, Wikipedia in itself is not RS. James Tod is an FA but he is not really RS. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 11:10, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- And why is that? Because his works have factual errors or what? Kailash29792 (talk) 11:25, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- Contact User:Sitush for more info. Was just giving you example. Am sure Tod has nothing to do with Mehta and hence lets not drift. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 11:28, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Being a reviewer, its a linear insult. As you have a history of trying to delist GA's like you did here. You should have brought these issues to me instead of opening a GAR. I'll try to give this article a copy-edit and do what i can to save its good article status. Yashthepunisher (talk) 12:02, 19 October 2015 (UTC)- If you would do your job well, we wouldn't be here to make you feel offended. Geometry is my fav subject and on-wiki insulting is too, according to some. So thanks for the complement. And if you disagree with the comments you wouldn't remove 2kbs of chunk out immediately. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:16, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
You don't know what you are talking about. There is no "we", its "you" who started this. I agree there is a problem with the prose, but you should have told me about all this before reassessing it. Yashthepunisher (talk) 05:12, 20 October 2015 (UTC)- Why should I tell you? You passed the article, hopefully in all your senses. That was me assuming that you passed it to the best of your understandability of GA criteria and not just blindly gave a green badge. After that what is the point in tell you how it should have been done? Plus, a community GAR is for all people to access and help clean the article. Other editors can also make their additional points here. And btw, if the article really wants to keep the GA badge it has to mainly work on the first tree points, rest copyediting and trivia chopping can happen over time. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 03:46, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- If you would do your job well, we wouldn't be here to make you feel offended. Geometry is my fav subject and on-wiki insulting is too, according to some. So thanks for the complement. And if you disagree with the comments you wouldn't remove 2kbs of chunk out immediately. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:16, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- Contact User:Sitush for more info. Was just giving you example. Am sure Tod has nothing to do with Mehta and hence lets not drift. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 11:28, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- And why is that? Because his works have factual errors or what? Kailash29792 (talk) 11:25, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- And Kailash, Wikipedia in itself is not RS. James Tod is an FA but he is not really RS. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 11:10, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- Not necessarily. Our article on Oneindia is merely a stub with no reliable sources whatsoever. —Vensatry (ping) 10:53, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- "she gave a special dance performance in Star Plus TV's dance reality show India's Dancing Superstar" - This line is not unnecessary. If yes?? then this one is too "she participated in a concert tour across North America, entitled "SLAM! The Tour", in which she performed alongside her co-stars from Happy New Year." in Deepika Padukone's article.Akshaytherock (talk) 17:59, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
DelistThere are too many {{Importance-inline}} tags, and deadlinks in awards section and non reliable sources (dekhnews, punjabupfilms, etc...). Akshaytherock (talk) 16:09, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- Removed. Akshaytherock (talk) 09:16, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
- Note: Akshaytherock has been blocked along with Hetika, the GA nominator of this article, as sockpuppets. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 14:13, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
- Note: Its been months now that the article is at GAR and not a single word in the article has been written about this actress' "acting". This thus fails the 3a criteria of addressing the main aspects of the topic, as has been noted above in the every first point. I think this article should no longer GA since enough time has been given. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 10:05, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Dharmadhyaksha: There's a lot of dones floating around. Could you give one concise statement about what you feel remains wrong with this article? Clearly, the article does contain information about her acting career. Are you saying that it's non-neutral by virtue of not criticizing her acting? ~ RobTalk 18:10, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- @BU Rob13: There is plenty of stuff about her "acting career" but not an iota about her "acting" itself. The prose is "in YYYY she signed [insert show name]. The show had [insert actors name] featuring with her. The show was [insert adjective about show]. The show ended in YYYY. Mehta said [insert some self-bloating quote]." Where does the whole article talk about her acting? Criticism or favourism would be an issue if at all the prose dealt with it. In short, the whole "Career" section is just prosification of the two tables given below. If what I expect is still not clear then I have summarized some bits present in current actresses GA articles; on which lines something should be mentioned. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:01, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
- I'm a bit torn here. If this were a GA review for the article in the current state, I would consider the remaining request onerous. But it's clear that the article shouldn't have been passed in the first place either because the state it was in or because the nominator and reviewer were the same person. Rather than make the dispute more protracted, I'll
demotedelist the article. Protonk (talk) 12:33, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
Examples | |
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Actress | Stuff expected about acting |
Katrina Kaif | * "Kaif was written off due to her poor Hindi and thick British accent." * "Katrina Kaif is an eyesore ... her acting so weak you want to urge her to watch everyone from Madhubala to Madhuri so she might pick up a few tricks". * "comes into her own as an actress of substance" * "Katrina Kaif continues to surprise ... She scores in both emotional and light scenes" |
Dimple Kapadia | * "established her as a "cult figure" as she led the fashion trends" * "performed solidly and memorably" *"Dimple showed immense strength as a performer. This has to be one of her best and most unrecognised performances" * "proving her mettle as an actress of intensity and passion" |
Mila Kunis | * "adept with her performance and understands the concept of comic timing" * "generated a spark and brought a degree of determination to her character" "brings some lovely subtle grace notes to a role" |
Evan Rachel Wood | * "Wood does flip cynicism with such precise, easy rhythms and with such obvious pleasure in naughtiness that she's impossible to hate." *"wise beyond her years" and as "one of the best actresses of her generation" *" brings much-needed emotional depth" |
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I want to change he photo with a recent image of sargun Mehta Zaraaaaxxx (talk) 09:07, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Link to the image you have in mind here and reopen the request the. Keep in mind there is an WP:Image use policy Cannolis (talk) 09:26, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
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Hi please could you replace the television table with this as she is also a producer of shows it’s better to show it in a different way. Also I have gotten rid of guest appearances as she is a famous name.
And as she was a contestant on Bigg Boss Season 8 (2014) please could you add Category:Bigg Boss (Hindi TV series) contestants 2A02:6B68:10:6100:3D54:5F9A:738E:2205 (talk) 18:23, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
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