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According to my hungarian friend, Wolfgang was in fact Hungarian, so why is this a Austrian people stub? 194.193.78.109 14:30, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I know his ancestors were immigrants from Ireland.
Because Hungaria was Austria at that time, and to make things simpler, Bratislava is actually a capital of Slovakia, which was then known as Upper Hungaria. Smylei 22:22, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Name

Von Kempelen is known in English sources by the German version of his name, not a Hungarian one. It can be easily proved for example by references in scholar.google.com (163 references to Wolfgang von Kempelen scholar vs. 27 to Kempelen Farkas). VinceB, please refrain from hungarizing names in this Wikipedia. There is also a Hungarian Wikipedia, where you can do it. But this is an English version. Tankred 20:35, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Then I learned something new. :-) I didn't knew that??? OMG! Then? This is why this page is editable to everybody. Gosh....--Vince hey, yo! :-) 22:38, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hoax

Kempelen's machine is widely supposed to be a hoax, since chess-playing processor is considered beyond the available technological capacities. However, the exact nature of the "hoax" was never revealed, in spite of many public presentations until the mysterious destruction of the machine in fire. In other words, the evidence is missing and the hoax formulation should be weakened. Smylei 22:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Uh, what? I'm not really following - that The Turk was a massive hoax isn't even a question. Whether it was revealed or not during Kempelen's time is irrelevant to that fact. What are you getting at? --badlydrawnjeff talk 23:22, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]