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Arbitration enforcement action appeal by Toa Nidhiki05

Appeal declined. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:18, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

Procedural notes: The rules governing arbitration enforcement appeals are found here. According to the procedures, a "clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved administrators" is required to overturn an arbitration enforcement action.

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Appealing user: Toa Nidhiki05 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) – Toa Nidhiki05 17:53, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sanction being appealed: Indefinite topic ban from post-1992 American politics, imposed at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive312#Toa Nidhiki05, logged at Wikipedia:Arbitration enforcement log/2022#American politics 2

Administrator imposing the sanction: Guerillero (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)

Notification of that administrator: The appealing editor is asked to notify the administrator who made the enforcement action of this appeal, and then to replace this text with a diff of that notification. The appeal may not be processed otherwise. If a block is appealed, the editor moving the appeal to this board should make the notification.

Statement by Toa Nidhiki05

Since the topic ban six months ago, I've had time to reflect on my actions and find them to be unacceptable and embarrassing. I allowed myself to behave poorly in a topic area that doesn't need poor behavior. Ultimately, while I do feel I wasn't the only one at fault in these disputes, the only one responsible for my actions was myself, and the enforcement action was a result of that behavior. While I can't take back what I did then - edit warring and acting in poor faith towards others - I can commit to not behaving in such a way in the future. I do feel like I have made valuable contributions in this area and can do so in the future. I would be more than open to alternatives that allow me to engage productively in this area, including things like a 1RR restriction. Toa Nidhiki05 17:53, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Generalrelative, I think I entered the discussion on the wrong foot straight-up by edit warring; I can't recall if I did so before or after the edit, but I'd be fairly surprised if I hadn't engaged in a number of reverts prior to this discussion, at least over a period of time. But more specifically, while I do think the content in question was reliably sourced and accurate, and I don't believe her claims qualify as anything more than WP:FRINGE viewpoints, I think I entered it with a confrontational attitude rather than a collaborative one. I don't think the concerns that you gave and the viewpoint you offered could be incompatible with a compromise; I think there's some way that the sources on the matter could have been reconciled into text that is both accurate and agreeable as a consensus. The attitude I entered the discussion with did absolutely nothing to make a rational middle ground impossible. I think the discussion would have been much smoother, at least on my part, if I hadn't engaged in snide comments or bickered.

To be clear, I'm not sure there's a wording or phrasing that would have pleased everyone (this is a topic that fuels a lot of emotions in a lot of people), but I should have at least attempted to engage in this area in a matter that wasn't confrontational and driven by my own personal opinions on the matter.

So the short answer would be that I shouldn't have edit warred, that I should have engaged productively and in good faith, and I should have worked to create some sort of wording that would have resolved the broad issues from editors on both sides of the discussion rather than focusing on my preferred wording. In any future discussion of the manner, a more sensible approach would be to do these things specifically; while I can't control what other editors say or do, and there's no guarantee discussion will ultimately lead to an outcome that is satisfactory to everyone involved, there's a responsibility to work towards that end goal regardless. Toa Nidhiki05 18:42, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I understand not wanting to relitigate it, Generalrelative; I also have no desire to do so. I'll definitely take this into consideration, however.. Toa Nidhiki05 20:17, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just a brief note: in the initial topic ban, Black Kite noted they could not post in the uninvolved administrators section as they are not actually uninvolved. Toa Nidhiki05 20:17, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In response to the claims from Black Kite, the claim I've been inactive is pretty silly. I do a substantial amount of work in draft userspace, and got The Beautiful Letdown up to GA. That being said, some users seem to think a lack of editing is good, and others think it's bad, so it would be nice to have some clarity as to what exactly is expected. It's abundantly clear now how this is going, so dragging this out probably won't be helpful to anyone. Toa Nidhiki05 02:46, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Drmies, what would you specifically like me to address that I haven't? I'm not exactly clear on this. Toa Nidhiki05 23:05, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Drmies, I've tried to be succinct in my response, but it is a bit lengthy - my apologies. I don't believe Black Kite is correct.

"Negative content", as starship.paint, isn't forbidden for BLPs; far from it. The reason I don't focus on Republican lawmakers is because I find Wikipedia does a good enough job of handling these people; frankly, I have no interest in getting involved in the shitshow that exists on Donald Trump and his related pages, for example, and if I did it wouldn't be on the side you think. My edits aren't disproportionately on the people Black Kite mentioned, nor was the content I supported adding beyond the pale; it was election denial claims for Jean-Pierre and Abrams, and antisemitism in the lead for Omar. You can argue whether these should be in articles, but I don't think you can argue they aren't valid topics to at least consider; reliable sources do talk about these. For the election denial in particular, I'll note I added this information to other pages, like Jamie Raskin and Bennie Thompson, where they remain to this day with no controversy.

But it's far from "Democratic politicians" that I have added "negative content" for. Take, for example, my edits on John Tanton and the Center for Immigration Studies, which focused on retaining the well-documented reality that Tanton was a white nationalist and eugenicist. This is undoubtably "negative content" (albeit for someone who is dead), but isn't it worthy of being mentioned on their pages? Or how about Adrian Vermeule, a white Republican, which focus on his bizarre integralist ideology and support of a Catholic theocracy - this is "negative content" being added to a BLP of a white, male Republican. There's also Sharyl Attkisson, a conservative conspiracy theorist most known for claiming that vaccines cause autism and that the Obama administration spied on her (neither of which are true). I was extremely active in contesting her own efforts to whitewash her page, which led to me being condemned on her own website multiple times.

Honestly, I don't actually edit on a ton of BLPs, actually - most of my AP2 edits were on pages for organizations - you could probably count on two hands the number of BLPs I edited in AP in 2022.

I will say what I said in my initial statement; I'm embarrassed by how I behaved. I think I entered these areas with a battleground mentality, treated other editors poorly, and attempted to reach a consensus rather than edit warring. I can't take that back, but I can pledge not to do it again in the future - which is also why I've discussed a sanction like 1RR on AP2, which would resolve at least some concerns that have been given here. Toa Nidhiki05 01:38, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Guerillero

Statement by Generalrelative

Toa, I'm happy to see this request. I think that you have a lot of drive to improve the encyclopedia, and it would be great if you could bring that back to the AP2 topic area. In furtherance of that goal, would you be willing to comment specifically on whether you see anything wrong with your behavior in this talk page discussion, and if so what you would do differently next time? Generalrelative (talk) 18:18, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your thoughtful reply, Toa. It takes courage to be circumspect in a public forum. And I would be more than happy to work with you to arrive at compromise –– whether within or outside of the AP2 area –– in the future. Just so you're aware, my own frustrations had to do with what I perceived to be a refusal to WP:LISTEN, as I expressed a few times in this section of the discussion. My concern was that if we couldn't even agree on what the sources said, even after they were quoted for you, productive discussion had effectively ceased. I do not expect (nor desire) to relitigate that here, but if you are un-banned I ask that you give it some thought. Cheers, Generalrelative (talk) 20:04, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Black Kite

I think enough time has passed without any interaction with TN05 for me to be uninvolved here, but I will move this to here for the sake of argument.

My statement at the original discussion is here. My viewpoint has not changed. In addition, I note that in the six months of the ban, TN05 has made 146 mainspace edits. Prior to the block, 146 mainspace edits were made in just over a month (29 September 2022 to 5 November 2022). They also have made a lot of negative edits on the BLPs of Democratic politicians, especially non-white females such as Ilhan Omar, Karine Jean-Pierre and Stacey Abrams (and white females such as Rebekah Jones) - please note that I'm not accusing them of sexism or racism, because they're quite happy to add positive comments to non-white female Republican BLPs such as Mayra Flores. So it's simply a political thing, but for some reason those BLPs are easy targets - they don't appear to have done the same to white male BLPs of either political stripe. Also so many of their edits are reverts [1] it just looks like they would be best staying away from AP2 for the time being. Black Kite (talk) 19:32, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by starship.paint

It's OK to have a POV. It's OK to insert negative material on BLP pages as long as it is reliably sourced and follows WP:NPOV. But, I am reminded of the second link raised by Generalrelative above, and it is not OK to have your POV override reliable sources. In that incident, the presiding judge said that in Stacey Abrams lawsuit, there were wins and losses for both sides, and reliable souces highlighted this statement from the judge in their reporting. TN05 dismissed this as the judge being courteous, which was their personal opinion and not from a reliable source. If the topic ban is lifted, I don't want such incidents re-occuring. starship .paint (exalt) 02:30, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This has been languishing for a while, I'd support what Springee mentioned, and I hope I'm not wrong if this passes. starship .paint (exalt) 04:47, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by (Springee)

I understand the concern El_C and others have raised regarding a limited number of edits and waiting things out. As an alternative to simply saying no, would a limited allowance/probationary period be an option here? Something where TN could show they get it by being given a short rope? I don't think we should assume that nothing has changed in TN's thinking after being told to sit out for 6 months. What about something like a 1RR AP2 limit? If the issue was talk page conduct then perhaps a reply limit or a strict rule against commenting on other editors. This new limitation could be appealed in 6 months. Thus TN would have a chance to show they have changed while the community wouldn't have to deal with a whole new ARE if things are an issue again. Springee (talk) 11:45, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Dennis Brown

No comment on the merits at this time, but in reply to Springee, the topic ban IS a probationary period. It is in leau of being indef blocked, which is a stronger (but highly effection) sanction to prevent disruption. They have rope, and to use it without hanging themselves only requires they edit often enough, for an extended period of time, and in a way that benefits enwp, and is clearly within policy and doesn't cause disruption. At first glance, they don't appear to have passed that bar yet. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 02:22, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by FormalDude

Largely agree with Black Kite and am unsatisfied with their answers to Drimes. They've failed to address the clear POV-pushing that was demonstrated in the report that lead to this block, instead denying it and apologizing only for their incivility. What that tells me is that we'll just see civil POV-pushing going forward. ––FormalDude (talk) 04:59, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by (involved editor 2)

Discussion among uninvolved editors about the appeal by Toa Nidhiki05

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Statement by (uninvolved editor 1)

Statement by (uninvolved editor 2)

Result of the appeal by Toa Nidhiki05

This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.

Decline. Largely per Black Kite. This is an indef sanction working as intended. Since, as mentioned, the user has greatly reduced their edits, to the extent that if the topic ban were set to expire about now, it could be argued that they simply 'waited out the sanction.' Which is a problem as we don't get to see how the appellant fairs in other topic areas with comparable activity. El_C 11:01, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I would tend to agree; we just haven't seen enough yet to determine that lifting the sanction is going to end well. I think things are moving in the right direction, so at least for me, this is a "not now", but certainly not a "never". Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 02:29, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I remember looking at the Stacey Abrams dispute at the time and being surprised at the obvious partiality of the edits and comments by Toa Nidhiki05, whom I have had little interaction with, but of course knew as a longtime editor. Rereading the original AE case, which I was not involved in, and noting especially the damning comments by Black Kite and Nableezy, made me wonder why none of those comments (which must have carried some weight with the admins who decided on the sanction) are addressed here, in this rather bland and formal mea culpa that addresses only tone, not the pretty clear POV that led to extensive edit warring and disruption in various articles. So, no, I do not find this convincing, and I think that the sanction is continuing to bring some peace and quiet to the AP2 area. Drmies (talk) 22:23, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Toa Nidhiki05, can you address Black Kite's points? I hope I'm summarizing correctly: how is it that your edits typically add negative content to BLPs of (often Black, female) Democratic politicians, but not to Republican politicians? That's more or less the gist of the Abrams dispute as well, isn't it. Drmies (talk) 00:47, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Homme

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Request concerning Homme

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: Maddy from Celeste (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 13:08, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

User against whom enforcement is requested: Homme (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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Sanction or remedy to be enforced: WP:GENSEX

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User talk:Homme#May 2023

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Special:Diff/1159131669

An IP has restored Homme's inflammatory comment: Special:Diff/1159276043. No idea if it's actually them, but is an option. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 09:45, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion concerning Homme

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Statement by Homme

What kind of statement is expected from me? Do I get it right that somebody wants to punish me for calling men men and women women? You guys really enjoy being ridiculous and cancelling everybody who dares to speak out, do not you? Homme (talk) 13:16, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by 11:41, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

@ScottishFinnishRadish and Courcelles: They're now socking as HommeRenaissant (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log).

Statement by (username)

Result concerning Homme

This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.

I've indeffed as a standard admin action. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:24, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Just came from UTRS by way of his talk page. Had a block coming for some time. Endorse regular admin block.-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:45, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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